Jack White Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The old thread on Mt. Hadley has too many problems to continue. Here is a new and improved study which will be posted at my Aulis website. Also in the works is a VIRTUAL REALITY scale model of Mt. Hadley which will show that the Apollo photos show a completely different moon mountain than reality. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Here is a topographic map of the Apollo 15 landing area. http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/LTO41B4S1(50)sm.jpg Where are the "jagged mountains"? Can you show any maps that clearly show "jagged mountains"? How about the SELENE images from JAXA, a non-NASA source? Clear evidence of "jagged mountains" please, because like most people, I have no faith in your ability as a photo analyst... especially when we are talking about analysis of lunar topography. BTW - I wouldn't use the word "striation": Geology. any of a number of scratches or parallel grooves on the surface of a rock, resulting from the action of moving ice, as of a glacier. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=striation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 I WOULD use the word STRIATION: Main definition: stripes of contrasting color Synonyms: band, bar, belt, bezel, chamfer, chase, chink, corrugation, crack, cranny, craze, cross-hatching, cut, dado, dash, delineation, diagonal, dotted line, engraving, flute, fluting, furrow, gash, gouge, groove, hachure, hairline, hatching, incision, line, lineation, list, microgroove, rabbet, rifling, ruck, rut, score, scratch, slash, slit, streak, streaking, stria, striature, striga, striola, strip, stripe, striping, stroke, sublineation, sulcation, sulcus, underline, underlining, underscore, underscoring, virgule, well-worn groove, wrinkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 (edited) Here is a topographic map of the Apollo 15 landing area.http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/LTO41B4S1(50)sm.jpg Where are the "jagged mountains"? Can you show any maps that clearly show "jagged mountains"? How about the SELENE images from JAXA, a non-NASA source? Clear evidence of "jagged mountains" please, because like most people, I have no faith in your ability as a photo analyst... especially when we are talking about analysis of lunar topography. BTW - I wouldn't use the word "striation": Geology. any of a number of scratches or parallel grooves on the surface of a rock, resulting from the action of moving ice, as of a glacier. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=striation Here is an aerial view of the JAGGED Mount Hadley and its JAGGED shadow. Edited December 1, 2008 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) I asked for clear evidence, because you have once again shown your inability in this area. Here is a clue: Jack - what scale is the orbital image you have shown? Edited December 2, 2008 by Evan Burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Irrelevant obfuscation non sequitur will fool only the unwary. Asking about scale is meaningless. Why assume this is an orbital photo? I have the same image from an earth telescope and an orbital photo. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Irrelevant obfuscation non sequitur will fool only the unwary.Asking about scale is meaningless. Why assume this is an orbital photo? I have the same image from an earth telescope and an orbital photo. Jack My Apollo website receives lots of positive fan mail, unlike the tedious scoffings of Burton. This study was prompted by receipt of an email for a German amateur astronomer, who takes closeup photos of the moon. He sent a photo of the Mount Hadley area, telling us that HIS photo of the area showed a completely different version of the moon mountain than seen on my website, and wondering whether I had done a study of aerial photos. I had not, but replied that I would. What I posted here is the result of an email from a German astronomer's inquiry. His email was forwarded to me by a British math professor, who had noted the same discrepancy. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) The old thread on Mt. Hadley has too many problems to continue. In other words Jack made so many blatant errors that his credibility was called into question, thus he started a new thread hoping people would forget about or not notice them. Here is a new and improved study which will be posted at my Auliswebsite. Also in the works is a VIRTUAL REALITY scale model of Mt. Hadley which will show that the Apollo photos show a completely different moon mountain than reality. This is quite bizarre, comparing the mountain’s horizontal and vertical profiles and complaining about a supposed discrepancy. Edited December 3, 2008 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Irrelevant obfuscation non sequitur will fool only the unwary.Asking about scale is meaningless. Why assume this is an orbital photo? I have the same image from an earth telescope and an orbital photo. Jack You are really demonstrating your inability here, Jack. Come on - think through it. You are talking about "jagged mountains" (which means vertical relief), and to prove it you are using a map (overhead) projection. Your "proof" consists of shadows, marked by coloured lines. You are using the shadows to indicate vertical relief. What thickness are those lines in full scale, Jack? 1 foot? 100 foot? 1 mile? 5 miles? What scale is the image? Do you even know? If we refer to the map I previously provided, we have contour lines with vertical relief marked. Show me the "jagged mountains" on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Are you going to show the "jagged mountains", or are you going to do another of your drive-by Apollo postings? I'll prepare a diagramme showing the vertical relief, and we can see if there are any "jagged mountains". If anyone else would like to do the same, we can compare results. It will keep me honest, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Baker Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 This thread has too many problems. Jack, start another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 This thread has too many problems.Jack, start another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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