BP has RFID on its people

[Steven Gaal]

http://publicintelligence.net/bp-rfid-people-tracking-brief/

[Len Colby]

1] It seems to have been a proposal rather than something which was definatelly implememnted.

2] The chips would be placed in the worker's clothing and/or handnelds rather than implanted in their bodies

http://info.publicintelligence.net/RFIDinBP.pdf

I'm no fan of BP but don't see anything especially 1984ish about a company traking the whereabouts of it workers while they are on the job especially in high risk environments.

[Steven Gaal]

1] It seems to have been a proposal rather than something which was definatelly implememnted.

2] The chips would be placed in the worker's clothing and/or handnelds rather than implanted in their bodies

http://info.publicintelligence.net/RFIDinBP.pdf

I'm no fan of BP but don't see anything especially 1984ish about a company traking the whereabouts of it workers while they are on the job especially in high risk environments.

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Pro what ?? Proposal. I wouldnt want to tell tales about my BP company to the press. BP can track who is near any jounalist.

http://www.idtechex.com/events/presentations/active_rfid_in_oil_and_gas_000866.asp

and

http://www.idtechex.com/events/presentations/location_intelligence_in_oil_and_gas_001577.asp

Edited July 11, 2010 by Steven Gaal

[Len Colby]

1] It seems to have been a proposal rather than something which was definatelly implememnted.

2] The chips would be placed in the worker's clothing and/or handnelds rather than implanted in their bodies

http://info.publicintelligence.net/RFIDinBP.pdf

I'm no fan of BP but don't see anything especially 1984ish about a company traking the whereabouts of it workers while they are on the job especially in high risk environments.

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Pro what ?? Proposal. I wouldnt want to tell tales about my BP company to the press. BP can track who is near any jounalist.

http://www.idtechex.com/events/presentations/active_rfid_in_oil_and_gas_000866.asp

and

http://www.idtechex.com/events/presentations/location_intelligence_in_oil_and_gas_001577.asp

Your links don't support your claims, why am I not surprised?

[Steven Gaal]

1] It seems to have been a proposal rather than something which was definatelly implememnted.

2] The chips would be placed in the worker's clothing and/or handnelds rather than implanted in their bodies

http://info.publicin...et/RFIDinBP.pdf

I'm no fan of BP but don't see anything especially 1984ish about a company traking the whereabouts of it workers while they are on the job especially in high risk environments.

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Pro what ?? Proposal. I wouldnt want to tell tales about my BP company to the press. BP can track who is near any jounalist.

http://www.idtechex...._gas_000866.asp

and

http://www.idtechex...._gas_001577.asp

Your links don't support your claims, why am I not surprised?

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It seems Len Colby cant use GOOGLE. I ask anyone who is reading this to go to ADVANCED GOOGLE - put in RFID first line and BP second line- you will get thousands and thousanda of BP RFID links. SOME representive links below that show that not as Mr. Colby asserts (RE: RFID only a proposal) ,but RFID are being used by BP.

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http://cpedia.com/wi...FID-enabled+fob

http://www.cio.com/cio100/detail/2008

http://www.prweb.com...rweb3861474.htm

Edited July 12, 2010 by Evan Burton

[Len Colby]

OMG you discovered that I use the webhandle LenBrazil on other forums, something every other member of this forum has known for years. Don’t you think if I was trying to hide the fact that it was me I wouldn’t use my 1st name and country of residence in my alias?

No, I don’t have problems with Google but it’s not up to me to research your claims. You on the other hand seem to think you need to resort to an advanced search to search for 2 terms at once and took three posts to finally turn up a link that actually documented your claim.

So employees and visitors at some high risk BP facilities carry RFID badges, why should anyone without a professional interest care?

[Steven Gaal]

1] It seems to have been a proposal rather than something which was definatelly implememnted.

2] The chips would be placed in the worker's clothing and/or handnelds rather than implanted in their bodies

http://info.publicintelligence.net/RFIDinBP.pdf

I'm no fan of BP but don't see anything especially 1984ish about a company traking the whereabouts of it workers while they are on the job especially in high risk environments.

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Pro what ?? Proposal. I wouldnt want to tell tales about my BP company to the press. BP can track who is near any jounalist.

http://www.idtechex.com/events/presentations/active_rfid_in_oil_and_gas_000866.asp

and

http://www.idtechex.com/events/presentations/location_intelligence_in_oil_and_gas_001577.asp

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For several weeks there has been controversy over BP restricting reporters access to public places with the help of the goverment. Journalists have been not been given access. The RFID can be used to restrict the press from BP whistleblowers. Re your post "the professionals" are the 4th Estate journalists. BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good news !!!!!!!!! see below &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Due to popular rage at the ban on reporters and photographers from within 65 feet of the oil spill, Coast Guard admiral Thad Allen has rescinded the ban.

Specifically, Allen announced tonight that the media will have full access, as long as they do not interfere with safety or security:

National Incident Commander Admiral Thad Allen today announced new procedures to allow media free travel within the 20-meter boom safety zones if they have followed simple procedures for credentialing, and provided they follow certain rules and guidelines.

"I have put out a direction that the press are to have clear, unfettered access to this event, with two exceptions -- if there is a safety or security concern," said Allen. This boom is critical to the defense of the marshes and the beaches.

"We need to discriminate between media, which have a reason to be there and somebody who's hanging around when we know that we've had equipment vital to this region damaged," Allen said.

Previously, media were required to contact local authorities each time they wished to access booming operations. The 20-meter safety zone was created to prevent boats from going over the top of booms; it is not intended to limit media access.

This step will further expand media access to frontlines of the BP oil spill response, and ensure that media representatives have the access they need to report this historic response-while maintaining the effectiveness of more than 560 miles of protective boom currently deployed to protect sensitive shorelines along the Gulf Coast.

A credential will be issued for media representatives to carry and display as needed for the duration of the response. Media representatives can obtain credentials by providing their name, media affiliation, and contact information to the Unified Area Command Joint Information Center at UACNOLAJIC@gmail.com.

The credential outlines safety and security guidelines for media access-including adherence to all federal, state and local navigation rules and regulations, and other common-sense guidelines designed to protect boom while keeping everyone safe.

"We have provided unprecedented media access to the largest oil spill response in US history. We want the media and the public to see the tremendous unity of effort of 40,000 federal, state and local responders. We have provided hundreds of embarks on CG vessels and aircraft and we are offering overnight visits on a 210-foot Cutter forty miles offshore at the well site. We believe that by providing the media credentials for vessels, we will increase the ability of the media and the public to see the response effort," said Captain Jim McPherson, USCG spokesman.

Reporters who are denied access to any part of the response can call the UAC JIC at (713) 323-1670 for immediate assistance.

Congratulations to photographers like Julie Dermansky, who have tirelessly documented what's really going on.

Congratulations to Anderson Cooper, who showed that a mainstream reporter can demand access.

Congratulations to the First Amendment.

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Let us all try to keep up with important and current issues.

Edited July 13, 2010 by Steven Gaal

[Len Colby]

For several weeks there has been controversy over BP restricting reporters access to public places with the help of the goverment. Journalists have been not been given access. The RFID can be used to restrict the press from BP whistleblowers.

That makes absolutely no sense. Based on the articles you’ve posted the RFID systems are only used at some BP facilities thus would not be able to track people elsewhere. But let’s assume you have some sort of fantasy about all employees having those cards and the system being able to track people wherever they went via satellite or cellphone towers or some such. You then would have to have an enormous number of people tracking all those employees 24/7 wherever they might go. But let’s imagine then BP has thousands of super secret cyberspooks doing so. According to the articles the RFID chips are on the employee’s ID cards so all they would have to do off the job for BPig Brother to not know where they are would be to leave their cards at home and/or put them in something that could block the signal like those X-ray proof bags. But let’s imagine that besides the RFID cards BP has secretly implanted subcutaneous RFID chips in all their workers (or at least all those who know enough to blow whistles) and has the technical capacity and manpower to track them day round wherever they go. They still would not be able to know who they were meeting with. But then let’s assume that these secret subcutaneous chips (which would not be detectable during medical exams or even autopsies) have embedded listening devices and that BP has enough spooks to listen in on all their workers all the time. But even then they workers could communicate with journalists any of the commonly available text message services (cellphone, e-mail, Facebook etc, AIM etc,) I guess you could imagine that these superduper chips could capture any electronic communication the workers utilize and BP has enough people to monitor it. You would have to imagine that anyone who knows anything at BP knows about the chips but the company has somehow managed to keep the true extent of the program secret even preventing disgruntled ex-employees from talking. But all that is such an unlikely scenario I doubt even you would think any of it possible. So no, employees at some facilities being issued RFID enabled ID cards could in no way “be used to restrict the press from BP whistleblowers”

Re your post "the professionals" are the 4th Estate journalists. BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good news !!!!!!!!! see below &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Due to popular rage at the ban on reporters and photographers from within 65 feet of the oil spill, Coast Guard admiral Thad Allen has rescinded the ban.

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Congratulations to photographers like Julie Dermansky, who have tirelessly documented what's really going on.

Congratulations to Anderson Cooper, who showed that a mainstream reporter can demand access.

Congratulations to the First Amendment.

I actually agree with you about this it seems that ADM Allen used safety as an excuse to stop or at least reduce the press’s ability to cover the story especially to impede all those images of the havoc wreaked by the spill.