Steven Gaal Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 A Man Most Ordinary (the story of Clifton Stewart) Mr Stewart was recruited by the British Military for his radio operating skills. link http://www.cbc.ca/maritimemagazine/2011/05/17/a-man-most-ordinary-the-story-of-clifton-stewart/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 A Man Most Ordinary (the story of Clifton Stewart) Mr Stewart was recruited by the British Military for his radio operating skills. link http://www.cbc.ca/maritimemagazine/2011/05/17/a-man-most-ordinary-the-story-of-clifton-stewart/ Why did you post this here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) A Man Most Ordinary (the story of Clifton Stewart) Mr Stewart was recruited by the British Military for his radio operating skills. link http://www.cbc.ca/maritimemagazine/2011/05/17/a-man-most-ordinary-the-story-of-clifton-stewart/ Why did you post this here? VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVooooooooVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ==== 911 ==== 911911911911911911911911911911911911911911911911911911911 ==== 911 ===== The link just below is key. link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl.php ====================================o============================= link http://theaussiedigger.com/site/?p=11440 Pearl Harbour Anniversary Posted on AUSSIE DIGGER BLOG December 8, 2011 by Keith Did FDR Provoke Pearl Harbor? On Dec. 8, 1941, Franklin Roosevelt took the rostrum before a joint session of Congress to ask for a declaration of war on Japan. A day earlier, at dawn, carrier-based Japanese aircraft had launched a sneak attack devastating the U.S. battle fleet at Pearl Harbor. Said ex-President Herbert Hoover, Republican statesman of the day, We have only one job to do now, and that is to defeat Japan. But to friends, the Chief sent another message: You and I know that this continuous putting pins in rattlesnakes finally got this country bit". =============VVVVVVVVV by Patrick J. Buchanan, via antiwar.com On Dec. 8, 1941, Franklin Roosevelt took the rostrum before a joint session of Congress to ask for a declaration of war on Japan. A day earlier, at dawn, carrier-based Japanese aircraft had launched a sneak attack devastating the U.S. battle fleet at Pearl Harbor. Said ex-President Herbert Hoover, Republican statesman of the day, We have only one job to do now, and that is to defeat Japan. But to friends, the Chief sent another message: You and I know that this continuous putting pins in rattlesnakes finally got this country bit. Today, 70 years after Pearl Harbor, a remarkable secret history, written from 1943 to 1963, has come to light. It is Hoovers explanation of what happened before, during and after the world war that may prove yet the death knell of the West. Edited by historian George Nash, Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoovers History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath is a searing indictment of FDR and the men around him as politicians who lied prodigiously about their desire to keep America out of war, even as they took one deliberate step after another to take us into war. Yet the book is no polemic. The 50-page run-up to the war in the Pacific uses memoirs and documents from all sides to prove Hoovers indictment. And perhaps the best way to show the power of this book is the way Hoover does it chronologically, painstakingly, week by week. Consider Japans situation in the summer of 1941. Bogged down in a four-year war in China she could neither win nor end, having moved into French Indochina, Japan saw herself as near the end of her tether. Inside the government was a powerful faction led by Prime Minister Prince Fumimaro Konoye that desperately did not want a war with the United States. The pro-Anglo-Saxon camp included the navy, whose officers had fought alongside the U.S. and Royal navies in World War I, while the war party was centered on the army, Gen. Hideki Tojo and Foreign Minister Yosuke Matsuoka, a bitter anti-American. On July 18, 1941, Konoye ousted Matsuoka, replacing him with the pro-Anglo-Saxon Adm. Teijiro Toyoda. The U.S. response: On July 25, we froze all Japanese assets in the United States, ending all exports and imports, and denying Japan the oil upon which the nation and empire depended. Stunned, Konoye still pursued his peace policy by winning secret support from the navy and army to meet FDR on the U.S. side of the Pacific to hear and respond to U.S. demands. U.S. Ambassador Joseph Grew implored Washington not to ignore Konoyes offer, that the prince had convinced him an agreement could be reached on Japanese withdrawal from Indochina and South and Central China. Out of fear of Maos armies and Stalins Russia, Tokyo wanted to hold a buffer in North China. On Aug. 28, Japans ambassador in Washington presented FDR a personal letter from Konoye imploring him to meet. Tokyo begged us to keep Konoyes offer secret, as the revelation of a Japanese prime ministers offering to cross the Pacific to talk to an American president could imperil his government. On Sept. 3, the Konoye letter was leaked to the Herald-Tribune. On Sept. 6, Konoye met again at a three-hour dinner with Grew to tell him Japan now agreed with the four principles the Americans were demanding as the basis for peace. No response. On Sept. 29, Grew sent what Hoover describes as a prayer to the president not to let this chance for peace pass by. On Sept. 30, Grew wrote Washington, Konoyes warship is ready waiting to take him to Honolulu, Alaska, or anyplace designated by the president. No response. On Oct. 16, Konoyes cabinet fell. In November, the U.S. intercepted two new offers from Tokyo: a Plan A for an end to the China war and occupation of Indochina and, if that were rejected, a Plan B, a modus vivendi where neither side would make any new move. When presented, these, too, were rejected out of hand. At a Nov. 25 meeting of FDRs war council, Secretary of War Henry Stimsons notes speak of the prevailing consensus: The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into … firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves. We can wipe the Japanese off the map in three months, wrote Navy Secretary Frank Knox. As Grew had predicted, Japan, a hara-kiri nation, proved more likely to fling herself into national suicide for honor than to allow herself to be humiliated Out of the war that arose from the refusal to meet Prince Konoye came scores of thousands of U.S. dead, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the fall of China to Mao Zedong, U.S. wars in Korea and Vietnam, and the rise of a new arrogant China that shows little respect for the great superpower of yesterday. If you would know the history that made our world, spend a week with Mr. Hoovers book. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVooooooooooooVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVoooooooooooooooooooooooooooVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/cointelpro.php "[Your information is] too precise, too complete to be believed. The questionnaire plus the other information you brought spell out in detail exactly where, when, how, and by whom we are to be attacked. If anything, it sounds like a trap." FBI response to the top British spy, Dusko Popov (code named "Tricycle") on August 10, 1941, dismissing Popov's report of the complete Japanese plan for the attack on Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor: The Verdict Of History by Gordon Prange, appendix 7 published in 1986. Based on records from the JOINT CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack, Nov 15, 1945 to May 31, 1946. A Man Most Ordinary (the story of Clifton Stewart) Golly,Mr. Stewart helped this happen. Radio interview with Clifton Stewart who served as a radio intelligence officer in WW2 and who intercepted the Japanese plans to attack Pearl Harbor weeks in advance. He reported it to the US Government, but of course Roosevelt did nothing, because he needed that attack on Pearl Harbor to trick the US into the war against Hitler. link Pearl Harbor, Mother of All Conspiracies, the book <--click here to buy paperback (424 explosive pages) or ebook. You have read the webpage - now get the whole story! This webpage is about 10 percent of the first chapter with many of the most startling revelations only in the book. "Mother of All Conspiracies is a sensational book that will change the face of America!" Professor Robert Kelso "Very late on a cold, dark night in December, a British emissary was driven through the dreary streets of Washington. Inside his diplomatic pouch he carried a secret message marked Most Urgent Personal and Secret to the President. It was a triple priority message from the British Admiralty in London that the United States of America was going to be attacked at Pearl Harbor on December 7th. Lord Halifax was swiftly shown in to the White House and conferred with Franklin Roosevelt. Roosevelt's hopes soared; his long-laid plans were about to be fulfilled. It was December 5th, 1941 PEARL HARBOR MOTHER OF ALL CONSPIRACIES link http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl.php =================================OOOOOOOO========================================= "...everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States..." ARMY BOARD, 1944 70th Anniversary of Pearl Harbor and the September 10th, 1945 Issue of TIME Magazine Today is the 70th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attacks of Dec 7, 1941. During a visit to a local antique store, I came across a relic of an issue of Time magazine for $6.00. Dated September 10th, 1945, I quickly looked inside to see what I would find. What a score! I felt like I was reading the 9/11 Commission Report, or at least a summary of it. I could not help but think of all the similarities between Pearl Harbor and ............ Edited December 8, 2011 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 So 68 years after the fact* an 89 year old man makes claims about one of the most crucial events of his lifetime that no one else seems to remember, how compelling! Riddle me this, what was the point of not repelling the attack since doing so would not have reduced the clamor for war? Also war with Japan would not have guaranteed war with Germany, the US only declared war on the latter after it declared war on the US 4 days after Pearl Harbor. Funny that you are channeling Buchanan now, can you cite any historians who back his view? * The interview took place in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 So 68 years after the fact* an 89 year old man makes claims about one of the most crucial events of his lifetime that no one else seems to remember, how compelling! Riddle me this, what was the point of not repelling the attack since doing so would not have reduced the clamor for war? Also war with Japan would not have guaranteed war with Germany, the US only declared war on the latter after it declared war on the US 4 days after Pearl Harbor. Funny that you are channeling Buchanan now, can you cite any historians who back his view? * The interview took place in 2009. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVvooooooVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Mr. Stewart in the interview protected sources/methods as any true operative would. The interview rings true. --------------------------------------------------oooo----------------------******** Before you decide to just swallow the traditional version of Pearl Harbor, you might read Victor’s and Stinnett’s books. Both are massively researched and include huge amounts of info from declassified files. By the way, historian John Toland argued years ago that FDR knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked. You might start with his treatment of the subject Pearl Harbor: The Seeds and Fruits of Infamy, Percy L. Greaves, Jr., Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2010. Day of Deceit: The Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor, Robert B. Stinnett, Touchstone Edition (paperback) having Afterword, New York, NY, 2001. The Final Secret of Pearl Harbor - The Washington Contribution to the Japanese Attack (with Foreword by Fleet Admiral William F. Halsey), Rear Admiral Robert A. Theobald (USN Retired), Devin-Adair Company, New York, NY, 1954. nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ======================================================================================================= Wikipedia ******** Mark Emerson Willey, Pearl Harbor - Mother of All Conspiracies (self-published in 1999, now available in paperback). Has a detailed timeline of events leading to Pearl Harbor, discusses codebreaking and radio silence, with Appendix A highlighting the many contextural differences as evidenced in SRH-406 - Pre-Pearl Harbor Japanese Naval Dispatches. Known for having some of the more outlandish claims. Chapter Two "Japanese Navy Codes" provides an excellent tutorial on "hatted" codes, especially JN25. [sRH-406 had several titles, an original non-censored version exits in private hands. A number of "GZ" comments have been removed from today's public version. FOIA requests for this original document have been denied.] ----NO FOIA datum ??------- Steve Gaal, "Golly gee,what to hide ?? To protect ONI ???." VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV =========================================================================== Centre for Research on Globalisation (POSTED IN FAIR USE) Is the "Surprise Attack" on Pearl Harbor in December 1941 – which resulted in a significant loss of Americans lives – relevant to understanding the events of September 11? According to American historian and Pulitzer prize winner, John Toland, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt had "prior knowledge" of the attack . . . and failed to act. "A massive cover-up followed Pearl Harbor a few days later ... when the Chief of Staff ordered a lid put on the affair. ‘Gentlemen,' he told half a dozen officers, ‘this goes to the grave with us.'" Pearl Harbour: History Whitewashed? by Ian Woods Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca , 5 March 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- READ IAN WOODS IN GLOBAL OUTLOOK MAGAZINE'S PREMIERE ISSUE ON "STOP THE WAR" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On December 7 of last year, America ‘celebrated' the Sixtieth Anniversary of Pearl Harbor. On that date in history — often referred to as "a day of infamy" — a surprise attack was staged by the Japanese on the American naval base in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Heavy American casualties were inflicted on those based on the island outpost which lay halfway between the United States and Japan. The devastation aroused the anger of the American people. Soon afterwards, the U.S. government declared war on Japan and Germany and joined the Allies in World War Two. A Day of Infamy According to historian, John Toland, "The events of Sunday morning, December 7, 1941, have always been shrouded in mystery. Japanese bombs had scarcely stopped falling on Pearl Harbor before shocked and angry Americans were calling for an investigation of the catastrophe, one of the most sudden and complete defeats in United States history. Within weeks, Franklin D. Roosevelt had appointed a blue-ribbon committee, headed by Supreme Court Justice Owen Roberts, to look into the events leading up to the Japanese attack. Its judgment placed the blame on the Hawaiian commanders, General Short and Admiral Kimmel, in spite of much contradictory evidence. "Their disgrace aroused a storm of controversy. Pleading a wartime need for secrecy, the government kept a tight lid on the facts surrounding the Pearl Harbor disaster. There were rumors of a whitewash, and knowledgeable crypt-analysts talked of a Japanese order given in the highly classified Purple Code (which, under extreme security wraps, the United States had been decoding for years). The so-called "winds execute" signal, they said, had warned Washington of imminent attack — a warning never passed on to Hawaii. "Eight more investigations followed, during and after the war, as partisans on both sides — field officers versus the Washington establishment — traded sensational and sometimes incredible assertions, accusations, and denials. Witnesses changed their testimony under pressure; files were destroyed or ‘mislaid'; and key government figures ‘forgot' where they were, what they said, and what they did in the crucial hours preceding the attack." INFAMY, by John Toland, raises and answers some important questions about Pearl Harbor. Was there prior knowledge? Why were commanding officers Short and Kimmel not informed of an impending attack? Could Roosevelt have known of the approaching carrier force and decided not to act? Could the Americans have ambushed the Japanese and shortened the war? According to Toland, the Roosevelt administration had foreknowledge of Japan's military plans. Prior Warning "Confirmation of Dutch foreknowledge of the Japanese attack also came from General Albert C. Wedemeyer. In 1980 he informed the author that during a meeting in 1943, Vice Admiral Conrad E. L. Helfrich of the Royal Netherlands Navy expressed wonder that the Americans had been surprised at Pearl Harbor. The Dutch, Helfrich said, had broken the code and knew that the Japanese were going to strike Pearl Harbor. "He seemed surprised that I did not know this," recalled Wedemeyer, "and when I explained that I doubted seriously that this information was known in Washington prior to Pearl Harbor attack, Admiral Helfrich was skeptical because it was his clear recollection that his government had notified my government." (p. 317 - 318) "Vice Admiral Conrad E. L. Helfrich of the Royal Netherlands Navy expressed wonder that the Americans had been surprised at Pearl Harbor. The Dutch, Helfrich said ... knew that the Japanese were going to strike Pearl Harbor ... it was his clear recollection that his government had notified [the U.S.] government." "By December 4, Roosevelt and a small group of advisers, including Stimson, Knox and Marshall, were faced with three options. They could announce to Japan and the world word of the approaching Kido Butai [the Japanese fleet]; this would indubitably have forced the Japanese to turn back. Second, they could inform Kimmel and Short that Japanese carriers were northwest of Hawaii and order them to send every available long-range patrol plane to discover this force. An attack conceived in such secrecy would necessarily depend on complete surprise for success, and once discovered out of range of its target, Kido Butai would have turned back ... "A month before the Hull ultimatum to Japan, Ickes had written in his diary: ‘For a long time I have believed that our best entrance into the war would be by way of Japan.' The first bomb dropped on Oahu would have finally solved the problem of getting an America — half of whose people wanted peace — into the crusade against Hitler. And the third option would accomplish this: keep Kimmel and Short and all but a select few in ignorance so that the Japanese could continue to their launching point unaware of their discovery. This would insure that the Japanese would launch their attack. If Kimmel, Short and others had been privy to the secret, they might possibly have reacted in such a way as to reveal to the Japanese that their attack plan was known." (p. 318) "One of Knox's close friends, James G. Stahlman, wrote Admiral Kemp Tolley in 1973 that Knox had spent most of the night of December 6 at the White House with the President: All were waiting for what they knew was coming: an attack on Pearl Harbor." (p. 320) "There, therefore, can be no question that between the dates of December 4 and December 6, the imminence of war on the following Saturday and Sunday, December 6 and 7, was clear-cut and definite ... "Up to the morning of December 7, 1941, everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States except the final message instructing the Japanese Embassy to present the 14th part together with the preceding 13 parts of the long message at one o‘clock on December 7, or the very hour and minute when bombs were falling on Pearl Harbor." (p. 108) Cover-Up? "A massive cover-up followed Pearl Harbor a few days later, according to an officer close to Marshall, when the Chief of Staff ordered a lid put on the affair. ‘Gentlemen,' he told half a dozen officers, ‘this goes to the grave with us.'" (p. 321) Three years later, after the Army Pearl Harbor Board and Navy Inquiry announced its findings, one man from Rhode Island summed up the feelings of the American people:"The Government's cover-up of the responsibility for that catastrophe has done more to undermine morale than any other single event of the past three years. The thinkers of America, and there are millions of them, won't stand for such guff. I am but one of the millions of Americans today who are shocked, humiliated and indignant because of this announcement." (p. 130) "But there was little doubt in knowledgeable Washington circles that the navy would find it all top secret and the Pearl Harbor cover-up would continue." (p. 109) And the cover-up continues to this day. Witness the plethora of Hollywood videos, history books and media coverage which say nothing of the real story behind Pearl Harbor. But history has its own way of painting its victims. On his death, President Roosevelt was described by one who knew him well as "a man who never told the truth if a lie would suffice." (p. 134) John O'Donnell in the New York Daily News wrote, "The evidence builds up to the simple brutal fact that F.D.R., the Big Brain, through blind stupidity ... was directly and personally responsible for the blood and disaster." (p. 160) Pearl Harbor ... Operation Northwoods ... September 11 Is it possible that history is repeating itself now? I only raise the question, because there are so many questions that remain unanswered concerning the events of September 11. In the words of philosopher and poet George Santayana, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." The evidence presented by John Toland suggests that Pearl Harbor was a crisis created by the U.S. government on December 7, 1941 to manipulate public opinion and sway the American people into going to war. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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