Harold Weisberg And Shots From The Sixth Floor

[David Josephs]

Before Oswald is on the 6th floor west corner he must first get the bag the rifle is in from wherever it was placed that morning when he brought it to work...

Yet no one other than Wesley tells us he rought a paper bag with him to work or in the back doors.

When he comes in and Dougherty does NOT see anything in his hand (remember this needs to be a 3.5 foot paper bag with rattling rifle parts inside...)

1. Where did Oswald store it? Proof please

2. When did Oswald retreive said rifle and go to the 6th floor? Provide proof please

3. When, where and with what did Oswald reassemble the rifle? Proof...

4. He supposedly ordered the rifle himself with his own alias... an Oswald has repeatedly picked up all the 6.5mm shells fired at the Sports Drome rifle range yet this time, he chooses to leave the shells where they lay and leave the rifle to be found, also without fingerprints as a result of hims placing the rifle beneath boxes... were his prints on the boxes by the Rifle? Nope.

5. How again was the scope signted in for that day and distance?

[David Josephs]

So...nobody has a challenge for Williams' testimony?

Nobody can come to a conclusion about what he says?

Conclusion? Oswald was where he said he was and not on the 6th floor at any time after 11:50am.

[Jon G. Tidd]

Here's the deal:

It's 12:25 p.m. Dallas time in Dallas, Texas.

Bonnie Ray Williams has just left the 6th floor, after eating a chicken lunch right by the sniper's nest.

LHO enters the SN. Either he has assembled the rife or he assembles it now, with a dime. DVP, tell me which.

The rifle is loaded with four rounds, one of which has been fired before. Right, DVP?

Oswald fires three rounds toward JFK. In about 6-7 seconds. Right, DVP?

[David Von Pein]

Here's the deal:

It's 12:25 p.m. Dallas time in Dallas, Texas.

Bonnie Ray Williams has just left the 6th floor, after eating a chicken lunch right by the sniper's nest.

LHO enters the SN. Either he has assembled the rife or he assembles it now, with a dime. DVP, tell me which.

I can't possibly know the answer to that question for certain, Jon. No one can know. But I do have some thoughts on it....

11:55 AM-12:05 PM (estimated) -- Oswald has the whole sixth floor to

himself. This is just prior to Bonnie Ray Williams coming back up to

the 6th Floor to eat his lunch. It's my belief that Lee Oswald, during

this (approx.) 10-minute time period around noon or shortly after,

probably went to the west end of the sixth floor (where he had his

rifle hidden in the brown bag).

Oswald unwraps the rifle at the west end of the sixth floor and

assembles the rifle at the west end (hence, Arnold Rowland sees a

white man with a rifle at the west end of the building at approx. this

time, maybe a little later, 12:15 or so, but keep in mind the

approximation of all times).

It's quite possible, IMO, that Oswald initially was considering using

the WEST-end window as his shooting window. But, for one reason or

another, he decided that a window on the EAST end of the sixth floor

would better serve his purposes.

Perhaps he was mentally factoring in the angles and trajectories in

his head, and possibly realized that an east-end perch would be a

better one, especially since the Secret Service agents would all have

their backs to him when he began firing, if he decided to wait until

after the cars had turned the Elm/Houston corner....which, IMO, Oswald

definitely had in his mind to do, due to the pre-arranged way the

rifle-rest boxes were constructed (i.e., in a "Rifle Always Pointing

West/Southwest" manner).

It's also possible that, as Oswald mulled over potential shooting

locations, he realized that a goodly number of boxes were already down

on the east end of the 6th Floor, which would make constructing a

makeshift "Nest" all the easier for him.

More....

jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html

The rifle is loaded with four rounds, one of which has been fired before. Right, DVP?

Wrong.

The dent in one of the shell casings does NOT mean it MUST have been fired before 11/22. The HSCA (and many others who have fired Carcano rifles) have achieved a dented lip on a cartridge case AFTER firing a shot and then very quickly working the bolt. It's been proven. And it merely indicates Oswald's haste in trying to work the bolt. The shell just wasn't quite clear of the chamber yet, and Oswald's very fast working of the bolt dented the ejecting spent cartridge.

Oswald fires three rounds toward JFK. In about 6-7 seconds. Right, DVP?

Close. I think it was more like 8.36 seconds:

Shot 1 -- Z160 (approx.).

Shot 2 -- Z224.

Shot 3 -- Z313.

Total Time = 8.36 seconds.

Edited July 4, 2015 by David Von Pein

[Jon G. Tidd]

DVP,

Maybe you're right.

One thing, the only thing, of which I'm sure: The killer or killers of JFK wanted him dead. I'm sure of this. Why? Because JFK was not simply wounded. He was killed at a distance.