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Pataky is mentioned in a recent article in Midwest Today. The article includes picture of Daly and the What's My Line panel, including Kilgallen.

http://www.midtod.com/new/articles/7_14_07_Dorothy.html

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Peter Fokes,

Toronto

Thank you for that link. This is a very important article. It includes information about Pataky that has never been published outside this forum or on my web page on the man.

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Pataky is mentioned in a recent article in Midwest Today. The article includes picture of Daly and the What's My Line panel, including Kilgallen.

http://www.midtod.com/new/articles/7_14_07_Dorothy.html

Regards,

Peter Fokes,

Toronto

Thank you for that link. This is a very important article. It includes information about Pataky that has never been published outside this forum or on my web page on the man.

I first encountered the link to the Midwest Today article here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=123434

WHO KILLED DOROTHY KILGALLEN?

By Sara Jordan

Midwest Today Magazine, October 21, 2007

Born in Chicago, she became a New York journalist and popular game show panelist.

But her mysterious death still troubles a legion of fans who won't forget this remarkable woman....

....and I agree with John....the article is informative, Pataki has quite a curious background.

I did not know of Virginia Warren's very recent death. She was of great interest because of her relationships with Conrad Hilton, his business partner, Henry Crown, and because of her husband, John C. Daly. It was odd that Daly, Earl Warren's son-in-law, was one of the last to see Kilgallen alive, and saw her regularly while the FBI was attempting to find out where she obtained her leaked WC investigation testimony. I also am curious about Daly spending his retirement years working for the extreme right propaganda organ, AEI, "American Enterprise Institute". Daly was president of ABC news while Wisner and Meyer Jr. were ramping up the CIA's Op Mockingbird.

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Pataky is mentioned in a recent article in Midwest Today. The article includes picture of Daly and the What's My Line panel, including Kilgallen.

http://www.midtod.com/new/articles/7_14_07_Dorothy.html

Regards,

Peter Fokes,

Toronto

Thank you for that link. This is a very important article. It includes information about Pataky that has never been published outside this forum or on my web page on the man.

I first encountered the link to the Midwest Today article here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=123434

WHO KILLED DOROTHY KILGALLEN?

By Sara Jordan

Midwest Today Magazine, October 21, 2007

Born in Chicago, she became a New York journalist and popular game show panelist.

But her mysterious death still troubles a legion of fans who won't forget this remarkable woman....

....and I agree with John....the article is informative, Pataki has quite a curious background.

I did not know of Virginia Warren's very recent death. She was of great interest because of her relationships with Conrad Hilton, his business partner, Henry Crown, and because of her husband, John C. Daly. It was odd that Daly, Earl Warren's son-in-law, was one of the last to see Kilgallen alive, and saw her regularly while the FBI was attempting to find out where she obtained her leaked WC investigation testimony. I also am curious about Daly spending his retirement years working for the extreme right propaganda organ, AEI, "American Enterprise Institute". Daly was president of ABC news while Wisner and Meyer Jr. were ramping up the CIA's Op Mockingbird.

The Midwest Today page automatically puts the "current date" on the page containing this article. However, the URL includes the actual publication date.

I was unaware the link had been posted on this forum on another thread. Thanks for the link to that thread.

(Lets be sure to use "Pataky" , not Pataki as in Governor Pataki!)

The personal interconnections are fascinating.

Allen Dulles realized the importance of "personal" contacts in the world of

espionage. Indeed, as he told Mary Bancroft at the beginning of their

"affair": "It should work out very well! We can let work cover the

romance -- and the romance cover the work!"

CIA spy Bancroft also wrote: "General material about

background and people's interrelationships can be both illuminating and

important. quite often missing pieces of the mosaic emerge that make a

previously incomprehensible picture unexpectedly clear."

(Quotes from "Autobiography of a Spy" by Mary Bancroft, 1983)

Regards,

Peter Fokes,

Toronto

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Pataky is mentioned in a recent article in Midwest Today. The article includes picture of Daly and the What's My Line panel, including Kilgallen.

http://www.midtod.com/new/articles/7_14_07_Dorothy.html

Regards,

Peter Fokes,

Toronto

Thank you for that link. This is a very important article. It includes information about Pataky that has never been published outside this forum or on my web page on the man.

I wonder how Pataky calculated the odds of accidental death versus murder as 75% to 25%!

Mmm ..

Where can I get one of those calculators?!?!

Regards,

Peter Fokes,

Toronto

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Pataky is mentioned in a recent article in Midwest Today. The article includes picture of Daly and the What's My Line panel, including Kilgallen.

http://www.midtod.com/new/articles/7_14_07_Dorothy.html

Regards,

Peter Fokes,

Toronto

Thank you for that link. This is a very important article. It includes information about Pataky that has never been published outside this forum or on my web page on the man.

I first encountered the link to the Midwest Today article here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=123434

WHO KILLED DOROTHY KILGALLEN?

By Sara Jordan

Midwest Today Magazine, October 21, 2007

Born in Chicago, she became a New York journalist and popular game show panelist.

But her mysterious death still troubles a legion of fans who won't forget this remarkable woman....

....and I agree with John....the article is informative, Pataki has quite a curious background.

I did not know of Virginia Warren's very recent death. She was of great interest because of her relationships with Conrad Hilton, his business partner, Henry Crown, and because of her husband, John C. Daly. It was odd that Daly, Earl Warren's son-in-law, was one of the last to see Kilgallen alive, and saw her regularly while the FBI was attempting to find out where she obtained her leaked WC investigation testimony. I also am curious about Daly spending his retirement years working for the extreme right propaganda organ, AEI, "American Enterprise Institute". Daly was president of ABC news while Wisner and Meyer Jr. were ramping up the CIA's Op Mockingbird.

John Daly was only a vice president at ABC in charge of news. He was never the president of ABC News. The fact that he was one of the last people to see Dorothy alive is not suspicious, and it has nothing to do with his having married Earl Warren's daughter. Both John and Dorothy owed many of their career successes to their "What's My Line?" broadcasts that they started making in 1950. In 1950, John Daly was married to another woman, not Virginia Warren. Nobody knew California Governor Earl Warren would become chief justice or that he would have anything to do with a Texas murder investigation. Earl even appeared on "What's My Line?" in 1951 to promote his plans to seek the Republican presidential nomination in 1952. Eisenhower ended up as the nominee, of course.

In 1950, not many New Yorkers gathered outside the CBS television studios to ask for autographs, and the network did not provide limousines for the talent. But on the night Dorothy died in 1965, there were several limousine drivers and bystanders on the scene after the live broadcast ended. The fact that John Daly saw her that night means little. He avoided off - camera conversations with her after a 1957 incident when she published something on her newspaper's front page about his negative opinion of Mike Wallace's career. This story is in one book and more than one web site about "What's My Line?".

For several months after the front page embarrassment, Daly would not even say "hello" to Dorothy off - camera. Eventually, he resumed "hello" but he avoided saying much else to her. That was the way it was as late as 1965, eight years after the humiliating front page incident. It was Bennett Cerf who talked with Dorothy on the night she died about publishing a book about murder cases. The newspaper called Long Island Newsday reported that a week after she died. It said their conversation had happened after the live broadcast was over. Lee Israel's book suggests they talked before the show, although to be fair she does not specify the time frame.

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Considering I have found that David Yarnell posted in 2005 under I.P. numbers also logged to posts by Lee Israel and by Jonathan Wendland, it seems appropriate to reevaluate / discount everything posted by these three.

The following posts all originated from the same I.P. # :

Israel : http://educationforu...483

Israel : http://educationforu...033

Yarnell: http://educationforu...648

Yarnell: http://educationforu...210

Yarnell: http://educationforu...028

Wendland: http://educationforu...434

Wendland: http://educationforu...092

Wendland: http://educationforu...091

There are more, under other I.P.'s used commonly by two or more of the three "members."....

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