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I found it "very strange" that Sinclaire, the man who claimed to be so close to Kilgallen, would admit publicly to any of the above. Did he confess to a crime? Tampering with evidence at a murder scene, "reporting" to a friend instead of to police, his discovery of Dorothy's dead body, then abruptly leaving before police arrived, Showing so little interest, just moments after the shock of discovering her dead, he summons her butler, observes a paper at his feet after opening the locked door to admit the butler, but is in such haste to leave the scene and the building, he does not even pause to pick up the paper and determine if anything was written on it. Tom, you don't know what you're talking about. Although Mr. Sinclaire is dead, he left behind a long video interview he did in 2000. Midwest Today relied on it as a source. Like other witnesses such as Paul O'Connor, Mr. Sinclaire kept silent in the 1960s and 1970s out of fear. When Lee Israel contacted him in 1975 during her work on the Kilgallen book, he was still too scared to talk about his 1960s experiences. Finally, in 1994, he told everything he knew to a researcher. Mr. Sinclaire explained, "I'm getting older, and what are they going to do to me now ?" The researcher needed six years to travel to Tampa, Florida to do the video interview. There was no You Tube then, so nobody knew who could cite such a video as a source. But Beta SP video existed for sure.

No, he never was affiliated with Colson. He got a master's degree from Liberty University in Virginia in 1993. Jerry Falwell was president then, but the two never met. Between 1988 and 1990, Ron worked for a Christian radio network called Family Life Ministries, based near Elmira, New York. I don't recommend exploring Ron Pataky's ties to Christians. He had no ties to them during the 1960s when he knew Dorothy Kilgallen. He was busy working full-time for a regular daily newspaper called the Columbus Citizen Journal. It was in Columbus, Ohio. Ron did express his Christian faith in the newspaper occasionally, such as in a 1965 column about which Columbus nightclubs were open during Easter week. This was during the year and five months that he knew Kilgallen. But he expressed his strong patriotism in his column, too. That is more disturbing. Several days before the Easter 1965 report, he sang the praises of the newly released movie The Sound of Music, ending the column by noting that Julie Andrews is his favorite woman in the world, "next to Betsy Ross of course." That wasn't his only expression of Americanism, I promise you. Read his 1965 review of the movie John Goldfarb, Please Come Home, which made CIA agents look bad. There had been some publicity earlier that year and the previous year (1964) about that movie making the Notre Dame football team look bad. But only Ron Pataky took issue with the CIA agents, one of whom was played by Harry Morgan (later to become famous on the TV series "Dragnet" and "M*A*S*H.")

Thank you for that link. This is a very important article. It includes information about Pataky that has never been published outside this forum or on my web page on the man. I first encountered the link to the Midwest Today article here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=123434 ....and I agree with John....the article is informative, Pataki has quite a curious background. I did not know of Virginia Warren's very recent death. She was of great interest because of her relationships with Conrad Hilton, his business partner, Henry Crown, and because of her husband, John C. Daly. It was odd that Daly, Earl Warren's son-in-law, was one of the last to see Kilgallen alive, and saw her regularly while the FBI was attempting to find out where she obtained her leaked WC investigation testimony. I also am curious about Daly spending his retirement years working for the extreme right propaganda organ, AEI, "American Enterprise Institute". Daly was president of ABC news while Wisner and Meyer Jr. were ramping up the CIA's Op Mockingbird. John Daly was only a vice president at ABC in charge of news. He was never the president of ABC News. The fact that he was one of the last people to see Dorothy alive is not suspicious, and it has nothing to do with his having married Earl Warren's daughter. Both John and Dorothy owed many of their career successes to their "What's My Line?" broadcasts that they started making in 1950. In 1950, John Daly was married to another woman, not Virginia Warren. Nobody knew California Governor Earl Warren would become chief justice or that he would have anything to do with a Texas murder investigation. Earl even appeared on "What's My Line?" in 1951 to promote his plans to seek the Republican presidential nomination in 1952. Eisenhower ended up as the nominee, of course. In 1950, not many New Yorkers gathered outside the CBS television studios to ask for autographs, and the network did not provide limousines for the talent. But on the night Dorothy died in 1965, there were several limousine drivers and bystanders on the scene after the live broadcast ended. The fact that John Daly saw her that night means little. He avoided off - camera conversations with her after a 1957 incident when she published something on her newspaper's front page about his negative opinion of Mike Wallace's career. This story is in one book and more than one web site about "What's My Line?". For several months after the front page embarrassment, Daly would not even say "hello" to Dorothy off - camera. Eventually, he resumed "hello" but he avoided saying much else to her. That was the way it was as late as 1965, eight years after the humiliating front page incident. It was Bennett Cerf who talked with Dorothy on the night she died about publishing a book about murder cases. The newspaper called Long Island Newsday reported that a week after she died. It said their conversation had happened after the live broadcast was over. Lee Israel's book suggests they talked before the show, although to be fair she does not specify the time frame.

Mr. McGuire, you can access video and audio of Kilgallen's hairdresser Marc Sinclaire saying he found her dead a few minutes after nine in the morning, and he noticed another person inside the house who seemed to be aware of the death already. There is a document from the NYPD saying her body was still inside the house after three in the afternoon. You also see and hear Mr. Sinclaire saying an NYPD squad car was parked in front of the house with two officers seated inside. They paid no attention to Mr. Sinclaire. The number of barbiturate capsules she took was never established. There was something else in her stomach that had nothing to do with barbiturates or alcohol: an unidentified pink liquid. That is in the autopsy report that anyone can access at the National Archives in Maryland near Washington, DC. Lee Israel did not invent the pink liquid when she included it in her book. She asked officials of the medical examiner's office about it, and they said they never knew what the pink liquid was. The chemist responsible for analyzing it, a man named Charles Umberger, died in December of 1977 at age 70 without having talked to Ms. Israel.

The crimes Lee Israel committed in 1990, 1991 and 1992 have nothing to do with the research she had done on Kilgallen more than twelve years earlier. She finished her Kilgallen work in 1978, more than a year before the book's September 1979 publication. Moreover, almost a dozen people she quoted in the book later did soundbite video interviews that confirm the quotes. They did, in fact, say what Lee Israel said they had said. Do you know anything about what it's like to be a successful New York writer? Lee began her life of crime almost five years after the publication of her book about American cosmetics tycoon Estee Lauder. That book flopped, ruining her access to major publishers. Not only can you see visuals and hear audio of Lee's sources confirming what's in the book, but you even can access interviews by three people who saw Dorothy Kilgallen during the last six months of her life and they never talked to Lee. So that material is not in the book. Did you know Dorothy Kilgallen was invisible at the time Lee committed her crimes in the early 1990s? Lee did not have the option of reissuing her book or hooking up with fans of "What's My Line?". She did not have those options because "What's My Line?" was invisible. Reruns on the Game Show Network did not start until December of 1994. That is when the network was launched. Today the network, renamed GSN, still exists, but it discontinued all old black and white game shows just three months ago. You Tube is the place to see and hear Dorothy in 2009. And Lee Israel is once again a law - abiding citizen, doing freelance magazine work and editing. Maybe Ron Pataky (the friend Dorothy made the year before she died) will confess something. If you Google him, you will notice that he is alive. His date of birth is on Mr. Simkin's "Spartacus" web site. I assume people have read the strange online interview with him about Dorothy. It is on the Midwest Today web site. That magazine investigated the mystery, and editor / publisher Larry Jordan has nothing to do with Lee Israel's life of crime.

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What does this have to do with Dorothy Kilgallen ?

Excellent article, but I wish it had also mentioned Dorothy's friend and confidente, who also "committed suicide" I believe two days later. I seem to recall that this woman was alleged to have had Kilgallen's notes on the Kennedy assassination, which of course, were never found. This was all covered in some detail a few years back on the forum. Dawn The reason the Midwest Today article does not mention Florence Pritchett Smith (the "friend and confidante") has to do with an interview that the magazine's researcher conducted with Ms. Smith's son Earl. He said, "My poor mother died of cancer." He wants the fantasy about his mother having secret information on Oswald / Ruby to stop. She was bedridden for months before she died. She was not given the cancer in a manner similar to how Jack Ruby supposedly got it. Florence got sick and died, that's all. At the end of her life she planned her own funeral, including who the pallbearers would be. This was reported in Jack O'Brian's column in the New York Journal American on November 22, 1965. If you're in the New York area, find that on microfilm at the public library with the lions in front of it. The University of Texas at Austin also has it. Dorothy Kilgallen could have had dangerous secrets about the assassination, and she could have been murdered. Florence Pritchett Smith could not have, and she could not have been.

In your research on Penn Jones did you discover if he identified who Mrs Earl Smith was? Did you get the chance to read Jones’ unpublished papers during your research? I have read them. Jones was wrong to suggest that Florence Pritchett Smith's death was suspicious. It wasn't. She and Earl had one child, a son named Earl, who has said, "My poor mother died of cancer." In the 1990s he worked for John Hancock Life Insurance at its famous Boston building. We will never know how Dorothy Kilgallen learned in 1959 about the CIA / Mafia plots to eliminate Fidel Castro. Linking her with Florence in any way is speculation. The only author who has published a book on Kilgallen is Lee Israel, and she posted information to this forum almost three years ago. You can find it. Lee said she interviewed hundreds of people who knew Kilgallen, and none of them mentioned Florence. The two women were not close. Penn Jones never met either of them.

I am sorry I was unable to reply to this posting yesterday as I was working to tight deadlines. It is of course true that Florence Pritchett died of cancer. However, that does not mean she was not murdered. Research by Dr. Bernice Eddy and Dr. Sarah Stewart at the National Cancer Institute in 1959 showed that it was possible to inject someone with cancer. They discovered this while carrying out research into the Salk polio vaccine that was being given to children all over the world. The vaccine’s manufacturers had grown their polio viruses on the kidney’s of monkeys. They speculated that when they removed the polio virus from the monkeys’ kidneys, they also removed an unknown number of other monkey viruses. If they were right, the world had been inoculating an entire generation of Americans with cancer-causing monkey viruses? This research was suppressed but the Salk vaccine was withdrawn and a second weaker vaccine developed by Albert Sabin was deployed instead. This new vaccine was used all over the world. I, like I suspect most members of this forum, received their injection while at school. In time, polio ceased to be a killer disease. The research of Eddy and Stewart was backed up by that of Laurella McClelland working in Philadelphia. As McClelland was working for a vaccine manufacturer, this information was covered up at the time. However, on 26th July, 1961, the New York Times reported that two vaccine manufacturers were withdrawing their polio vaccines until they can eliminate a monkey virus. Seven months later another article in the New York Times suggested that there was a possibility of cancer in the polio vaccine. However, no one picked up on this information and the idea of children being vaccinated with cancer never entered the public consciousness. Recent scientific develops have confirmed that Eddy and Stewart were right about their belief that there was a connection between the polio vaccine and the cancer epidemic. Scientists have discovered that the DNA of SV40 in monkeys is very similar to the DNA of cancer tumors in humans. As early as 1961 the CIA knew that it was possible to kill someone with a rapid growing cancer virus. Florence Pritchett was not the only one to die this way. This is the way that they got rid of Jack Ruby in 1967. Is it a coincidence that JFK's two long-term mistresses, Florence Pritchett (November, 1965) and Mary Pinchot Meyer (October 1964) both died within two years of JFK. If you add to this the fact that Dorothy Kilgallen, who was using Pritchett as a source for her investigation into the JFK assassination, also died in November, 1965, one cannot help to get suspicious about these "cancer" deaths. Nobody knows that Kilgallen used Smith as a source on JFK.

Okay, so I screwed up "Kupcinet." It was Karyn's father Irv and brother Jerry who negated her murder theory after she died. I implied Jerry was her son. Karyn was not murdered, and neither was Florence Pritchett Smith. Kilgallen could have been. I went to a lot of trouble to dig up the 1965 microfilmed newspaper saying Smith was so sick she planned her own funeral and chose pallbearers. Did anyone read where I quoted it in two very recent posts ?

Dorothy Kilgallen might have been murdered, but Florence Pritchett Smith wasn't and Karyn Kupcinet wasn't. Kilgallen's surviving father Jimmy and son Kerry both came forward to talk about her after her death, but neither would comment on the theory that she was murdered. Smith's son did comment on her murder theory, saying it was absurd. "My poor mother died of cancer," he said. Kupcinet's father and son have said she was not murdered. Read her Wikipedia article that somebody updated very recently. Did anyone read the 1965 newspaper column item about Smith that I put in another post to this forum ? Columnist Jack O'Brian said the woman had been so sick she had planned her own funeral, even choosing the pallbearers.

Why did nobody react to the recently unearthed microfilm of New York Journal American columnist Jack O'Brian ? He said on November 22, 1965, the first day he took over the late Kilgallen's "Voice of Broadway," that Florence Pritchett Smith had known she was dying and planned her own funeral. She even had chosen pallbearers. What part of this is offensive ? Unless you think the Hearst Corporation was part of the conspiracy, then you have no reason to doubt what O'Brian said. Would somebody prefer that I scan the Xerox to a Microsoft Word attachment and E-mail it to you ? That costs money.

I think there's a lot more to the story than that. Dorothy covered Audie more than once in gossip type articles in the Washington post on Murphy back in 1954 - one called 'Audie goes a-patchin.' I don't know what occurred on the episode of What's My Line, but if Dorothy didn't figure out who he was - well, that's like 'Quiz Show.' If there's anything to be said for the book published by Gary Weans, Audie Murphy came into possession of some very significant top secret documents, by way of John Tower, concerning the assassination, in 1964. See Chapter 44 of 'There's a fish in the courthouse.' Murphy's involvement in trying to spring Jimmy Hoffa is also worth noting, in that friends said he was looking to tap into the Teamster's pension fund [to save his failing businesses] - in the same way Trafficante and others had. Murphy died in a plane crash which could be deemed suspicious. Wean certainly thought so. Murphy travelled frequently to Ventura County, was friends with Bill Decker, had some honorary title with the Ventura Police department, and frequented Oxnard - the location of the phone call warning of the impending assassination of JFK, 20 minutes beforehand. Murphy was on Mae Brussel's 'Mysterious Deaths' list. Bizarre factoid - Murphy gave the foreward to the film 'War is hell' - which was showing 11/22/63 at the Dallas Theatre, built by Howard Hughes, where Oswald sought to find his contact that fateful afternoon. Murphy was 'in the music business.' All that remains is one clue that Murphy may have turned over a mysterious package to Dorothy Kilgallen, and you'd have more than enough motive to exterminate her and anyone even vaguely connected to her. I keep expecting to find an Audie Murphy / Howard Hughes connection, but haven't yet beyond the fact that Hughes stole Murphy's gal back in 1946. Maybe Lee Israel knows something about an Audie Murphy / Dorothy Kilgallen connection? Here's another weird connection. Karyn Kupcinet was in a film with Audie Murphy, The Wild and the Innocent, 1959. She appeared under the name Tammy Windsor. Her father was a very classy guy with his own talk show and column in the Chicago Sun-Times: Irv Kupcinet. He was as great as Dorothy Kilgallen and Walter Winchell. When his daughter was murdered 6 days after President Kennedy, Walter Winchell went to Hollywood to find the killer. He didn't and the murder went unsolved. Irv was digging deep into the Chicago angle of the assassination. She might have been killed to shut him up. Such killers will not kill the person, but will kill someone the person loves. Karyn Kupcinet was not murdered. Her father, Irv suffered a lot of pain at the hands of conspiracy theorists who made his daughter look like a slut who hobnobbed with criminals. She knew nothing about the assassination, and neither did her father. Irv is dead now, but Karyn's younger brother Jerry still suffers emotionally because of these false allegations. Very recently, somebody worked hard on Karyn's Wikipedia article to debunk the theory. Let's see if I can post a link to it successfully. If it doesn't work, then please visit Wikipedia yourself and find the piece on "karyn kupcinet." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karyn_Kupcinet

Florence Pritchett Smith, wife of the ambassador to Cuba prior to the Castro takeover, might have had sex with JFK. But she was not murdered. Penn Jones Jr. was wrong to call her death suspicious simply because he didn't know what type of cancer she had. Here is a quote from the Voice of Broadway column published in the New York Journal American on Monday, November 22, 1965. It is not part of any online archive of historical newspapers, but you can find it on microfilm in New York City, Washington, DC and Austin, Texas. "Her friends still marvel at the late Florence Pritchett (Mrs. Earl E. T.) Smith's jaunty courage; knowing she was dying, she calmly planned her own funeral, including the list of honorary pallbearers." This verifies a statement from her son, Earl Jr. He said, "My poor mother died of cancer." Penn Jones also was wrong when he said Florence died two days after Dorothy Kilgallen. She died the next day.

There are several issues raised by the posting about Earl Smith III views of his mother. (1) “Her only contribution to Kilgallen's newspaper (the Journal American) was a kitchen recipe in the Sunday edition.” In fact, on 9th November, 1965, the New York Journal American reported: “Mrs. Earl E.T. Smith, wife of the former U.S. Ambassador to Cuba and columnist of The Journal-American, died today in her apartment at 1120 5th Ave. She was 45.” In fact, Florence had been fashion editor of the newspaper during the Second World War. (2) “Earl insists that Dorothy Kilgallen never entrusted the dying Florence Pritchett with any documents.” As Earl was only 12 years old at the time it is difficult to know how he can be so sure about this. I have found absolute proof that Florence Pritchett was not murdered. It comes from a newspaper columnist named Jack O'Brian. Although he is remembered mainly as a very opinionated television critic, he also took over the "Voice of Broadway" column after Dorothy Kilgallen died. In his first "Voice of Broadway" column, published in the New York Journal American on Monday, November 22, 1965, O'Brian said the following: "Her friends still marvel at the late Florence Pritchett (Mrs. Earl E. T.) Smith's jaunty courage; knowing she was dying, she calmly planned her own funeral, including the list of honorary pallbearers." I plan to start a new thread with his item I found in the microfilmed newspaper at the library last week. (3) “Mr. Simkin has assumed that Pritchett was Kilgallen's source on column items about Fidel Castro and Cuba, but we'll never know that. Earl says it's possible Florence fed her things in 1959, but he has no way of knowing. Florence absolutely did not know any secrets about Castro, Cuba or anything else during the last two months of her life.” Earl admits that it was possible that Florence might have given information on Castro to Dorothy. He then adds “Florence absolutely did not know any secrets about Castro, Cuba or anything else during the last two months of her life.” How can he be so unsure about 1959 but so positive about 1965. (4) "Earl Smith II and his wife Florence did know the Kennedys, but all we know is that they socialized formally. The Smiths visited the White House, and both couples hobnobbed in Palm Beach." Of course they were much more than friends. JFK met Florence in 1944. The couple spent a lot of time together. Betty Spalding said that for Kennedy, "Over a long period of time, it was probably the closest relationship with a woman I know of." However, because Kennedy was a Roman Catholic, marriage was out of the question." According to several books, JFK had a sexual relationship with Florence for 19 years that was only brought to an end in 1963. See for example: Ralph G. Martin, A Hero for Our Time: An Intimate Story of the Kennedy Years (1993) David C. Heymann, A Woman Named Jackie (1989) Blair, Joan, and Blair, Clay Jr, The Search for J.F.K. (1977) Nellie Bly, The Kennedy Men: Three Generations of Sex, Scandal and Secrets (1996) Nigel, Hamilton, JFK: Reckless Youth (1992) Stephen Birmingham, Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy Onassis (1969) (5) “In your recent post you state correctly that Penn Jones originated the entire saga of "Mrs. Earl T. Smith" and her connection to the assassination. Older Dallas - area residents know that Penn made many errors in his 1960s Midlothian Mirror articles and that he suffered from Alzheimers during the last 15 years of his life.” It is the first I have heard the news that Penn Jones was suffering from Alzheimers during the time he was writing about the JFK assassination. This sounds like a typical CIA disinformation campaign. I would be interested in how you know this. It is indeed true that Penn Jones was the first person to link the deaths of Dorothy Killgallen. He wrote in Volume II: Forgive My Grief (1967: “Shortly before her death, Miss Kilgallen told a friend in New York that she was going to New Orleans in 5 days and break the case wide open. Miss Kilgallen 52, died November 8, 1965, under questionable circumstances in her New York home. Eight days after her death, a ruling was made that she died of barbiturates and drink with no quantities of either ingredient being given. Also strangely, Miss Kilgallen’s close friend, Mrs. Earl E.T. Smith, died two days after Miss Kilgallen. Mrs. Smith’s autopsy read that the cause of death was unknown. Many skeptical newsmen have asked: “If Miss Kilgallen knew anything, surely as a journalist wouldn’t she have left some notes?” This is a legitimate question. Possibly Mrs. Smith was the trusted friend with the notes. No one will ever know now.” What is interesting about this is that Penn Jones did not appear to know who Mrs Earl Smith was. If he did, he did not write about it. I am sure he would have been fascinated to know that she was Florence Pritchett, the woman who had been having an affair with JFK for 19 years. Nor did he know that she was married to the ambassador of Cuba (1957-59) who had been involved in the plots to overthrow Fidel Castro. As far as I am aware, the true identity of Dorothy Kilgallen’s friend "Mrs Earl Smith" was not discovered until an exchange of postings by James Richards, John Johnson and myself on the JFK Research Forum in July 2004.

Watch the DVD of Marc's 2000 interview in his Tampa, Florida home. Then you will know. Or contact him. Why do you call Dorothy Kilgallen "Miss X ?"

Has anyone consulted the New York Journal American on microfilm to read everything Dorothy Kilgallen wrote about Marilyn Monroe's death ? If you're relying on Lee Israel's book as your only source, then you're missing a lot. Lee cites just two Kilgallen columns: those published on August 3, 1962 and August 8, 1962. Lee leaves out a few words from August 3 and several paragraphs from August 8. Lee Israel skips Kilgallen's entire column from August 16. Here's an excerpt from that day: "Why did Mrs. Murray call the doctor in the middle of the night just because Marilyn didn't answer a knock on her bedroom door ? If she were just trying to get to sleep and took the overdose of barbiturates accidentally, then she could have slept through an explosion. Mrs. Murray and Dr. Greenson knew that. Isn't there some other reason Mrs. Murray decided to call the doctor ? "Also, if Mrs. Murray was really a housekeeper, why was Marilyn's room such a mess ? It was a small house and should have been easy to keep tidy." In this column, Kilgallen says her readers have been sending her letters asking here these and other questions. In another column from mid August 1962, Kilgallen asks why the Los Angeles police have failed to ask police in Lake Tahoe, Nevada about a suicide attempt Marilyn allegedly made there one week before she died. More than twenty years later, Anthony Summers said in "Goddess" that Marilyn did, indeed visit the Cal Neva Lodge in Lake Tahoe a week before she died. He echoed Kilgallen's assertion that Marilyn overdosed on pills there and her stomach was pumped. To learn more about Kilgallen's take on Monroe, please visit a microfilm collection in the New York City area or the University of Texas at Austin or the Library of Congress. I have heard that a few newspapers in the U. K. and Australia reprinted Dorothy Kilgallen's column, but they could have deleted the stuff that originated in New York. Only the New York Journal American published the entire Voice of Broadway. Somebody must consult the Journal American on microfilm. I can't keep doing this again and again.

Has anyone consulted the New York Journal American on microfilm to read everything Dorothy Kilgallen wrote about Marilyn Monroe's death ? If you're relying on Lee Israel's book as your only source, then you're missing a lot. Lee cites just two Kilgallen columns: those published on August 3, 1962 and August 8, 1962. Lee leaves out a few words from August 3 and several paragraphs from August 8. Lee Israel skips Kilgallen's entire column from August 16. Here's an excerpt from that day: "Why did Mrs. Murray call the doctor in the middle of the night just because Marilyn didn't answer a knock on her bedroom door ? If she were just trying to get to sleep and took the overdose of barbiturates accidentally, then she could have slept through an explosion. Mrs. Murray and Dr. Greenson knew that. Isn't there some other reason Mrs. Murray decided to call the doctor ? "Also, if Mrs. Murray was really a housekeeper, why was Marilyn's room such a mess ? It was a small house and should have been easy to keep tidy." In this column, Kilgallen says her readers have been sending her letters asking here these and other questions. In another column from mid August 1962, Kilgallen asks why the Los Angeles police have failed to ask police in Lake Tahoe, Nevada about a suicide attempt Marilyn allegedly made there one week before she died. More than twenty years later, Anthony Summers said in "Goddess" that Marilyn did, indeed visit the Cal Neva Lodge in Lake Tahoe a week before she died. He echoed Kilgallen's assertion that Marilyn overdosed on pills there and her stomach was pumped. To learn more about Kilgallen's take on Monroe, please visit a microfilm collection in the New York City area or the University of Texas at Austin or the Library of Congress. I have heard that a few newspapers in the U. K. and Australia reprinted Dorothy Kilgallen's column, but they could have deleted the stuff that originated in New York. Only the New York Journal American published the entire Voice of Broadway. I can't keep doing this again and again.

Sorry, I should have said, "Then SHE devoted half of her August 16 column ... " and I should have said she ignored the strange telephone caller "IN her column." During the four months Dorothy Kilgallen was a regular on the local New York television talk show "Hot Line" -- with telephone callers participating on each broadcast -- she occasionally repeated in her column remarks made on the show. But she didn't do that when the anonymous New York man tried to advertise a Marilyn murder theory. Joyce Davidson, now in Toronto, screened the phone calls, and she recalls that this person was male. Oh, and he did something that people who telephone TV shows do today. When she answered the phone and asked what the caller wanted to say on the air, he lied to her. He offered a comment that had nothing to do with Marilyn. Then when he got on the air, he offered a Marilyn murder theory.

It is true that Dorothy Kilgallen did say later that she was talking about Robert Kennedy rather than his brother. The problem was that a lot of people who read the article assumed she was writing about JFK. You don't know that. The column appeared only in the New York Journal American, not any of her other outlets. The syndication of her column caused a delay that varied from two days (the Washington Post) to almost two weeks (the Dallas Times Herald). Some papers, such as the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch and the Baltimore (Maryland) News Post ran the Voice of Broadway just twice a week, not every day like the others. At any rate, when news of Marilyn's death breaks on Sunday morning, no newspaper editor in his right mind will put in his Monday editions a claim by a journalist -- even one who is a thousand miles away -- that Marilyn is alive. So you're talking about New Yorkers who read the Voice of Broadway on a Friday afternoon in the middle of the summer. Tracking down any of them for memories would be tough. Is Anne Hamilton your only source on Kilgallen saying later that it was Bobby ? What Anne the bookkeeper actually said to Lee Israel refers to a column that appeared in the Journal American five days later: August 8. Dorothy supposedly said Bobby was "the Man In Her Life" who called her while she was dying from a self-inflicted barbiturate overdose. He "got the terrible picture and realized there was nothing he could do without getting mixed up in it." (Bad publicity for him?) Here is the actual passage that appeared in the New York Journal American (3rd August, 1962): Marilyn Monroe's health must be improving. She's been attending select Hollywood parties and has become the talk of the town again. In California, they're circulating a photograph of her that certainly isn't as bare as he famous calendar, but is very interesting... And she's cooking in the sex-appeal department, too; she's proved vastly alluring to a handsome gentleman who is a bigger name than Joe DiMaggio in his heyday. So don't write off Marilyn as finished. Your only source is Lee Israel. You haven't checked the microfilm of the Journal American. After "but is very interesting ..." comes "Marilyn's dress looks as though it were plastered to her skin." The following day, Monroe was found dead. Rumours soon began circulating that Robert Kennedy had arranged Monroe's death to protect his brother's reputation. Maybe they circulated in the U. K., but rumors in the States were very limited. People who lived in Washington, DC in 1962 tell me they never heard them. The biggest circulation of such rumors would have been in Los Angeles and New York, where Marilyn had homes and where she had trysts with both brothers. Alright then, why did so many celebrities based in those cities say publicly that Marilyn had died alone from her own demons and nothing else ? Ayn Rand said as much in the Los Angeles Times. Do you know who Ayn Rand was ? A movie magazine quoted Jayne Mansfield as saying, "They probably expect me to do that someday [overdose], but if they knew me they would know it couldn't happen." Hedda Hopper also ignored all political angles and murder theories, and Hedda wrote a lot about this tragic event. Clare Booth Luce wrote and published a huge Life magazine cover story on Marilyn for the two-year anniversary of her death saying a lot about a bruised ego and pills but nothing about politicians or murder. I forget if Ms. Luce was pro-Kennedy or anti-Kennedy. Getting back to Dorothy Kilgallen, her August 8 piece depicted a long troubled woman whose "life was a suicide note, but nobody would believe the message. So perhaps it's important for [her friends] to have a note in her own handwriting that they wouldn't believe, either." Then the devoted half of her August 16 column to intelligent questions that hinted at a cover-up. Actually, she said her readers asked all the questions by mail. One was, "Why did the first doctor [Ralph Greenson] have to call the second doctor [Hyman Engelberg] before calling the police ? Any doctor, even a psychiatrist, knows a dead person when he sees one, especially when there are marks of lividity on the face and body." All this is in microfilmed Journal American issues waiting to be reprinted in "education forum." They are not just in New York libraries but also in Austin, Texas and the Library of Congress. Aside from a few other lukewarm comments in mid August 1962, Dorothy Kilgallen dropped the "Marilyn mystery" for good. Two years later -- November of 1964 -- she was doing her regular television panelist job on "Hot Line" when a telephone caller got on the air and started to talk about a Marilyn murder. Producer Joyce Davidson -- today living in Toronto -- cut the man off thanks to the ten - second broadcast delay. Dorothy may have said a word or two in surprise or denial, but she ignored the strange comment from her column. Anthony Quinn was also on the television panel that night. Did he leave behind a diary ? During the year she had left to her Dorothy occasionally reminded people that Marilyn had died from swallowing barbiturates. The last time was her column of November 5, 1965 -- her third - to - last.

Dorothy Kilgallen didn't name John Kennedy as Marilyn Monroe's lover. Her column of August 3, 1962 hinted at Bobby without naming anyone.

Hart, like Kerry hadn't a chance from the beginning...if they hadn't been politically or sexually assassinated, they would have been physically assassinated once elected, I'm sure. They both knew at least the outlines of the Grand Conspiracy behind many events, not the least of which were Dallas, Iran-Contra, Watergate, et al. Tosh Plumlee told Hart about several of these things long ago. He also testified before Kerry's subcomittee. Not that Plumlee knew all...but enough. They knew [and believed] too much truth to ever get elected and without scandals being set upon them. To learn more about Gary Hart, contact one of the many aides he employed at his U. S. Senate office. You have Talia Skari, Rebecca Pinkston, a strange fat man who used the senator's phones for hours every day rambling to a friend about nuclear war, and so many other employees.