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Steve Thomas

A. Dean Perkins?

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According to Dallas DRE delegate, Felix Guillermo Othon Pacho, Dean Perkins was organizing DRE meetings in September and October, 1963 at the White Rock Lake bank.

25H371, CE 2390 and CD 1546 p. 188.

Has anyone ever heard of this guy?

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According to Dallas DRE delegate, Felix Guillermo Othon Pacho, Dean Perkins was organizing DRE meetings in September and October, 1963 at the White Rock Lake bank.

25H371, CE 2390 and CD 1546 p. 188.

Has anyone ever heard of this guy?

Steve Thomas

Steve,

A Dean Perkins was the Dallas sponsor of the local YAF chapter and he was the Dallas Chairman of the Committee for a Free Cuba.

He was also closely associated with Fermin de Giocoechea.

Perkins was very active in the local churches and was named 'Man of the Year' for his work.

James

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James,

Steve,

A Dean Perkins was the Dallas sponsor of the local YAF chapter

Since Larry Schmidt was trying to take over the YAF, I wonder if they knew each other.

and he was the Dallas Chairman of the Committee for a Free Cuba.

He was also closely associated with Fermin de Giocoechea.

the same group that Buddy Walthers thought LHO was a member of?

I wonder if Perkins was at that house on Harlandale.

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Steve,

I don't have specific answers to your questions but the fact that Perkins knew De Giocoechea suggests he was at least familiar with what was going on at the house at Harlandale.

Perkins also arranged some speaking engagements regarding Cuban issues. One such event featured De Giocoechea and a guy by the name of Manuel Balbona. I have Balbona's contact details if you want to communicate directly with him. Let me know.

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Steve,

I don't have specific answers to your questions but the fact that Perkins knew De Giocoechea suggests he was at least familiar with what was going on at the house at Harlandale.

Perkins also arranged some speaking engagements regarding Cuban issues. One such event featured De Giocoechea and a guy by the name of Manuel Balbona. I have Balbona's contact details if you want to communicate directly with him. Let me know.

James

Although the material I am submitting is peripheral to De Giocoechea, it should be, nonetheless of note.

An Editorial Writer for the Dallas Morning News named Ken Thompson was, in 1963 writing a host of editorials that, to call critical of the Kennedy Administration would be an understatement, in a January 24, 1963 editorial Thomas wrote a piece entitled "ACLU Lawyer's out on a Limb" which referenced one Herman Marks, who among his 32 convictions had one for raping a 17 year old girl in Milwaukee, for which he served 3 1/2 years in prison. Marks, then later went to Cuba joining Castro's revolutionary regime, and becoming Fidel's 'chief executioner,' a line from the Thompson article says "Marks was said to be in command of the firing squads that executed hundred's of Castro's enemies."

According to Thompson, Marks re-entered the US where a Federal Court attempted to deport him for his activities in Cuba, Thompson say's that the ACLU has, supported a Ruling to the 2nd US Court of Appeals, fighting his deportation, and Thompson argues "While the ACLU can get excited about the loss of citizenship by one such as Marks who allegedly served as a professional murderer for Fidel Castro, it never seems upset about the shabby treatment of some of Mr Castro's enemies in America. Where were all those ACLU lawyers a month or so ago, when the Justice Dept. was threatening to denationalize and deport a group of American citizens and Cuban exiles in Florida who were planning to overthrow the Havana Communist Regime?"

Editorial Dallas Morning News 01-24-63

DCLU President George Schatzki responded to Thompson's Editorial day's later, on February 1, 1963.

Below is the text of Schatzki's letter entitled "Protecting Freedom of Citizens."

Ken Thompson's article of Jan. 24, 1963 on the American Civil Liberties Union and Herman Marks, does not state all the facts, nor does it accurately portray the position of ACLU.

Marks, born in the United States, was deprived of his natural citizenship without charges and without a hearing. This was done by the arbitrary act of the US Immigration Service. After taking him of his citizenship and without informing him of that fact, the Federal government arrested Mark's (who had cooperated with the FBI in anti-Castro activities during his stay in Cuba) and held him under Maximum Security in New York. He was jailed on the ground that he, an American-born citizen, was an alien improperly inside the United States. Bail and parole were denied him, and not until nearly 14 months after his arrest was he granted a writ of habeas corpus and released from jail. The trial court approved the right of the Immigration Service to take away the citizenship of natural-born American's without charges or a hearing, in other words, without due process of law.

The ACLU's primary concern in the matter is stated in its brief to the appellate court:

"Marks was entitled to have his citizenship determined judicially. (The statute) as here applied over his timely objection, denied him that right until after his arrest and lengthy detention. Mark's was thereby denied the right to a judicial determination of whether he was an alien subject to such administrative arrest and detention. In the circumstances, the procedure pursuant to which Mark's was detained and deprived of his liberty was unauthorized and unlawful. Since this habeas corpus proceeding tests the propriety of Marks' detention, it provides the proper occasion for determining that Mark's detention based upon an administrative charge of alienage was an invalid usurpation of the judicial function."

The ACLU brief warns: "The difficulty with rendering Marks stateless for action not amounting to voluntary and intentional expatriation is that the principle does not end with Marks but touches us all. If Mark's citizenship may be taken away from him because of politically offensive behavior, none of us is safe from the risk of banishment."

Mr. Thompson alleges that a month ago, the Justice Department threatened American citizens with denationalization and deportation. This is the first time we have heard of it. No such complaint has come to the ACLU. If it had, ACLU would have investigated the matter and treated it with the most urgent desire to protect the right of all individuals to believe and to speak as they choose without pressure, curtailment, infringement or threats of denationalization by the federal government.

George Schatski, President

Dallas Civil Liberties Union

PO Box 2251 Dallas

END

What is also interesting is that among Peterson's editorial opinions, there was one in which the theme would be more than familiar to those interested in the Kennedy Assassination. His article of February 5, 1963 "Contradictions over Air-Cover" advances the belief that it was JFK's cancellation of the air strikes during the Bay of Pig's invasion, which resulted in the mission's failure. What is even more interesting is that in that article he relies heavily on assertions and statements made by Jose Perez San Roman, Commander of the 2506 Brigade[defending the Kennedy Administrations handling of the matter] and rebuttal's of Roman's statements, courtesy of Fermin DeGoicoechea, whom Thompson had recently interviewed while the latter was in Dallas. DeGoicoechea and Roman were both participants in the abortive Bay of Pig's debacle, while Fermin was actually taken prisoner, [according to Thompson's piece.]

If Fermin DeGoicoechea is the same individual as Fermin de Goicochea, [and one would think that is the case, as the only difference in spelling, is the latter is missing an e] one might have something of a story as the latter was ostensibly referenced as George Perrel, whom it is alleged was identified by John Thomas Masen as 'one of his buyers' in September of 1963. But that is just the beginning, for Masen, had admitted that he had supplied arms to Cuban exiles Manuel Rodriguez and George Perrell, at least according to ATF Agent Frank Ellsworth, who also fingered Manuel Rodriguez and 'George Perrell' as not only members of Alpha-66 but the DRE as well. So, if George Perrell is in actuality Fermin DeGoicoechea, then Mr Thompson's interview with him, was not just with an ex-Bay of Pig's participant, but in actuality, an individual whom the CIA and FBI would be later making inquiries of, in the day's of President Kennedy's assassination.

for on November 19, 1963 an FBI Report identified a meeting which took place between Jack Ruby and Sam Baker in which Baker gives $400.00 in Traveler's cheques to Ruby, one the day before ATF Agent Ellsworth had been involved in a 'failed sting' which resulted in the arrests of Donnell Whitter and Lawrence Miller. Of particular interest is the fact that Donnell Whitter was ostensibly Jack Ruby's mechanic.

Masen believed that he was being set-up and backed out of any more contact with Ellsworth. Ellsworth, rightfully? blamed the results of the failed sting on FBI Agent Joe Abernathy and four unidentified Dallas Police Burglary and Theft Division detectives, who have not been identified to this day. It seems the DPD Report documenting this arrest is either missing or does not contain the officer's signature's in question.

References

Dallas Morning News Article from 1/24/63 ACLU Lawyer's out on a Limb by Ken Thompson

Also Dallas Morning News Letters from Readers. DCLU President George Schatzki response to Thompson's Editorial dated February 1, 1963. Protecting Freedom of Citizens.

Dallas Morning News Article from 2/05/63 Contradiction's over Air Cover also by Ken Thompson

The Dallas Civil Liberties Union comes up in the Warren Report in various places including WC Commission Exhibit 331 and Commission Exhibit 987. CD 780/A

And it is also noteworthy that Ken Thompson's name comes up in the proceedings of the Warren Commission. it seems Mr Thompson was in attendance at the February 1, 1963 YAF Meeting which was also attended by Larrie Schmidt. If one were to wonder why Ken Thompson was in attendance at a 1963 Young Americans for Freedom meeting, the answer would be simple: Ken was the head of the Dallas Chapter!

So ultimately, where does Warren Commission Document 780 tie in with regards to Ken Thompson? The answer to that question is multi-faceted. DC 780 explores several areas, the first major part of this section is a Secret Service interview of Harry McCormick a reporter for the Dallas Morning News who provides illuminating information on both Bernard Weissman and Larrie Schmidt. McCormick states he has investigated both individuals and believes that Weissman, in reference to the infamous black-bordered ad of November 22, 1963 "is only a puppet in this thing," and that Schmidt was the one pulling the string's so to speak. After providing some biographical information on Schmidt, McCormick states that Larrie attended Miami University after attending Nebraska High school in 1955 [Lincoln, NE] where he was arrested as a juvenile for breaking and entering. The Secret Service Agent conducting the interview John Joe Howlett inquired as to whether Schmidt attended the Univ. of Miami of Ohio or Miami, Florida, to which McCormick stated he wasn't sure but believed he attended the Univ. of Miami at Florida. Much of what McCormick mentions concerns the circumstances of how Weissman went about placing the ad entitled "Welcome to Dallas Mr. Kennedy"

McCormick states that Schmidt was present at the rally where Adlai Stevenson was struck by a placard by one of the demonstrators [Cora Frederickson] and that Schmidt wanted the Young Americans for Freedom to attend the rally, but that they declined to participate.

McCormick then states "Schmidt was a member of the Young Americans for Freedom and Ken Thompson, an editorial director on our paper, was a director of the Young Americans for Freedom."

"Schmidt drives a Rambler Texas 1963 License Number NY 8889,"

"On November 19th Weissman showed up alone with $800"

" the next day, he came to the Dallas News asking for a proof of this ad, but the proof was not ready and he told our people down at the News that he needed this proof to raise the additional $1400 odd dollars which the ad was costing.....He got the proof and returned later the next day."

and he returned the next day, which was November 21st, with the balance of the money in cash.

"I would like to know who the contributors were on the advertisement that was placed in the News. There is a man named Clyde J. Moore of 4318 Buena Vista in Dallas who is presently the Public Relations man for Dr. Robert J. Morris, a John Bircher candidate for the United States Senate on the Republican ticket, who knows a great deal about this thing. Moore is a right-winger. Moore prior to taking this job with Dr. Robert Morris was employed by H.L. Hunt, who runs a radio program called Lifeline, which is also very right-wing. Schmidt guaranteed the telephone bill of Weissman and Burley."

The Matter of Mr Robert Glen Krause

There are 4 Documents at NARA pertaining to the Dallas Civil Liberties Union

1. AGENCY : HSCA

RECORD NUMBER : 180-10080-10007

RECORDS SERIES : NUMBERED FILES

AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 009445

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT

FROM : BIGGIE, W.S.

TO : GANNAWAY, W.P.

TITLE : DALLAS CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION

DATE : 04/30/1964

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : LETTER

SUBJECTS : AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION; DALLAS, TX

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 07/24/1993

COMMENTS : Includes list of Dallas members. Box 173.

2. AGENCY : HSCA

RECORD NUMBER : 180-10104-10152

RECORDS SERIES : NUMBERED FILES

AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 012682

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

FROM : BIGGIO, W.S.

TO : GANNAWAY, W.P.

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 04/30/1964

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : LETTER.

SUBJECTS : DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.; DALLAS CHAPTER OF THE

AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION.

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 06/24/1993

COMMENTS : List of known members of the Dallas ALCU. Box 224.

3. AGENCY : WC

RECORD NUMBER : 179-40002-10161

RECORDS SERIES : 10: DALLAS CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : FBI

FROM : HOOVER, J. EDGAR

TO : RANKIN, J. LEE

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 03/13/1964

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

SUBJECTS : MARTIN, JAMES; "THE WORKER"

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : REFERRED

CURRENT STATUS : POSTPONED IN FULL

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 00/00/0000

COMMENTS : COVER LETTER ENCLOSING COPY OF "THE WORKER"; BOX F06

4. AGENCY : NARA

RECORD NUMBER : 179-30001-10455

RECORDS SERIES : STATE AGENCIES AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS AND PERSONS

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : NARA

FROM : [No From]

TO : [No To]

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 00/00/0000

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

SUBJECTS : DALLAS CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION; CD'S RECEIVED

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 00/00/0000

COMMENTS : carbon copy

5. AGENCY : NARA

RECORD NUMBER : 179-30001-10456

RECORDS SERIES : NON-FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : NARA

FROM : [No From]

TO : [No To]

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 00/00/0000

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

SUBJECTS : DALLAS CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION; CD'S RECEIVED

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 00/00/0000

COMMENTS : 2 carbon copies

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Steve,

I don't have specific answers to your questions but the fact that Perkins knew De Giocoechea suggests he was at least familiar with what was going on at the house at Harlandale.

Perkins also arranged some speaking engagements regarding Cuban issues. One such event featured De Giocoechea and a guy by the name of Manuel Balbona. I have Balbona's contact details if you want to communicate directly with him. Let me know.

James

Although the material I am submitting is peripheral to De Giocoechea, it should be, nonetheless of note.

An Editorial Writer for the Dallas Morning News named Ken Thompson was, in 1963 writing a host of editorials that, to call critical of the Kennedy Administration would be an understatement, in a January 24, 1963 editorial Thomas wrote a piece entitled "ACLU Lawyer's out on a Limb" which referenced one Herman Marks, who among his 32 convictions had one for raping a 17 year old girl in Milwaukee, for which he served 3 1/2 years in prison. Marks, then later went to Cuba joining Castro's revolutionary regime, and becoming Fidel's 'chief executioner,' a line from the Thompson article says "Marks was said to be in command of the firing squads that executed hundred's of Castro's enemies."

According to Thompson, Marks re-entered the US where a Federal Court attempted to deport him for his activities in Cuba, Thompson say's that the ACLU has, supported a Ruling to the 2nd US Court of Appeals, fighting his deportation, and Thompson argues "While the ACLU can get excited about the loss of citizenship by one such as Marks who allegedly served as a professional murderer for Fidel Castro, it never seems upset about the shabby treatment of some of Mr Castro's enemies in America. Where were all those ACLU lawyers a month or so ago, when the Justice Dept. was threatening to denationalize and deport a group of American citizens and Cuban exiles in Florida who were planning to overthrow the Havana Communist Regime?"

Editorial Dallas Morning News 01-24-63

DCLU President George Schatzki responded to Thompson's Editorial day's later, on February 1, 1963.

Below is the text of Schatzki's letter entitled "Protecting Freedom of Citizens."

Ken Thompson's article of Jan. 24, 1963 on the American Civil Liberties Union and Herman Marks, does not state all the facts, nor does it accurately portray the position of ACLU.

Marks, born in the United States, was deprived of his natural citizenship without charges and without a hearing. This was done by the arbitrary act of the US Immigration Service. After taking him of his citizenship and without informing him of that fact, the Federal government arrested Mark's (who had cooperated with the FBI in anti-Castro activities during his stay in Cuba) and held him under Maximum Security in New York. He was jailed on the ground that he, an American-born citizen, was an alien improperly inside the United States. Bail and parole were denied him, and not until nearly 14 months after his arrest was he granted a writ of habeas corpus and released from jail. The trial court approved the right of the Immigration Service to take away the citizenship of natural-born American's without charges or a hearing, in other words, without due process of law.

The ACLU's primary concern in the matter is stated in its brief to the appellate court:

"Marks was entitled to have his citizenship determined judicially. (The statute) as here applied over his timely objection, denied him that right until after his arrest and lengthy detention. Mark's was thereby denied the right to a judicial determination of whether he was an alien subject to such administrative arrest and detention. In the circumstances, the procedure pursuant to which Mark's was detained and deprived of his liberty was unauthorized and unlawful. Since this habeas corpus proceeding tests the propriety of Marks' detention, it provides the proper occasion for determining that Mark's detention based upon an administrative charge of alienage was an invalid usurpation of the judicial function."

The ACLU brief warns: "The difficulty with rendering Marks stateless for action not amounting to voluntary and intentional expatriation is that the principle does not end with Marks but touches us all. If Mark's citizenship may be taken away from him because of politically offensive behavior, none of us is safe from the risk of banishment."

Mr. Thompson alleges that a month ago, the Justice Department threatened American citizens with denationalization and deportation. This is the first time we have heard of it. No such complaint has come to the ACLU. If it had, ACLU would have investigated the matter and treated it with the most urgent desire to protect the right of all individuals to believe and to speak as they choose without pressure, curtailment, infringement or threats of denationalization by the federal government.

George Schatski, President

Dallas Civil Liberties Union

PO Box 2251 Dallas

END

What is also interesting is that among Peterson's editorial opinions, there was one in which the theme would be more than familiar to those interested in the Kennedy Assassination. His article of February 5, 1963 "Contradictions over Air-Cover" advances the belief that it was JFK's cancellation of the air strikes during the Bay of Pig's invasion, which resulted in the mission's failure. What is even more interesting is that in that article he relies heavily on assertions and statements made by Jose Perez San Roman, Commander of the 2506 Brigade[defending the Kennedy Administrations handling of the matter] and rebuttal's of Roman's statements, courtesy of Fermin DeGoicoechea, whom Thompson had recently interviewed while the latter was in Dallas. DeGoicoechea and Roman were both participants in the abortive Bay of Pig's debacle, while Fermin was actually taken prisoner, [according to Thompson's piece.]

If Fermin DeGoicoechea is the same individual as Fermin de Goicochea, [and one would think that is the case, as the only difference in spelling, is the latter is missing an e] one might have something of a story as the latter was ostensibly referenced as George Perrel, whom it is alleged was identified by John Thomas Masen as 'one of his buyers' in September of 1963. But that is just the beginning, for Masen, had admitted that he had supplied arms to Cuban exiles Manuel Rodriguez and George Perrell, at least according to ATF Agent Frank Ellsworth, who also fingered Manuel Rodriguez and 'George Perrell' as not only members of Alpha-66 but the DRE as well. So, if George Perrell is in actuality Fermin DeGoicoechea, then Mr Thompson's interview with him, was not just with an ex-Bay of Pig's participant, but in actuality, an individual whom the CIA and FBI would be later making inquiries of, in the day's of President Kennedy's assassination.

for on November 19, 1963 an FBI Report identified a meeting which took place between Jack Ruby and Sam Baker in which Baker gives $400.00 in Traveler's cheques to Ruby, one the day before ATF Agent Ellsworth had been involved in a 'failed sting' which resulted in the arrests of Donnell Whitter and Lawrence Miller. Of particular interest is the fact that Donnell Whitter was ostensibly Jack Ruby's mechanic.

Masen believed that he was being set-up and backed out of any more contact with Ellsworth. Ellsworth, rightfully? blamed the results of the failed sting on FBI Agent Joe Abernathy and four unidentified Dallas Police Burglary and Theft Division detectives, who have not been identified to this day. It seems the DPD Report documenting this arrest is either missing or does not contain the officer's signature's in question.

References

Dallas Morning News Article from 1/24/63 ACLU Lawyer's out on a Limb by Ken Thompson

Also Dallas Morning News Letters from Readers. DCLU President George Schatzki response to Thompson's Editorial dated February 1, 1963. Protecting Freedom of Citizens.

Dallas Morning News Article from 2/05/63 Contradiction's over Air Cover also by Ken Thompson

The Dallas Civil Liberties Union comes up in the Warren Report in various places including WC Commission Exhibit 331 and Commission Exhibit 987. CD 780/A

And it is also noteworthy that Ken Thompson's name comes up in the proceedings of the Warren Commission. it seems Mr Thompson was in attendance at the February 1, 1963 YAF Meeting which was also attended by Larrie Schmidt. If one were to wonder why Ken Thompson was in attendance at a 1963 Young Americans for Freedom meeting, the answer would be simple: Ken was the head of the Dallas Chapter!

So ultimately, where does Warren Commission Document 780 tie in with regards to Ken Thompson? The answer to that question is multi-faceted. DC 780 explores several areas, the first major part of this section is a Secret Service interview of Harry McCormick a reporter for the Dallas Morning News who provides illuminating information on both Bernard Weissman and Larrie Schmidt. McCormick states he has investigated both individuals and believes that Weissman, in reference to the infamous black-bordered ad of November 22, 1963 "is only a puppet in this thing," and that Schmidt was the one pulling the string's so to speak. After providing some biographical information on Schmidt, McCormick states that Larrie attended Miami University after attending Nebraska High school in 1955 [Lincoln, NE] where he was arrested as a juvenile for breaking and entering. The Secret Service Agent conducting the interview John Joe Howlett inquired as to whether Schmidt attended the Univ. of Miami of Ohio or Miami, Florida, to which McCormick stated he wasn't sure but believed he attended the Univ. of Miami at Florida. Much of what McCormick mentions concerns the circumstances of how Weissman went about placing the ad entitled "Welcome to Dallas Mr. Kennedy"

McCormick states that Schmidt was present at the rally where Adlai Stevenson was struck by a placard by one of the demonstrators [Cora Frederickson] and that Schmidt wanted the Young Americans for Freedom to attend the rally, but that they declined to participate.

McCormick then states "Schmidt was a member of the Young Americans for Freedom and Ken Thompson, an editorial director on our paper, was a director of the Young Americans for Freedom."

"Schmidt drives a Rambler Texas 1963 License Number NY 8889,"

"On November 19th Weissman showed up alone with $800"

" the next day, he came to the Dallas News asking for a proof of this ad, but the proof was not ready and he told our people down at the News that he needed this proof to raise the additional $1400 odd dollars which the ad was costing.....He got the proof and returned later the next day."

and he returned the next day, which was November 21st, with the balance of the money in cash.

"I would like to know who the contributors were on the advertisement that was placed in the News. There is a man named Clyde J. Moore of 4318 Buena Vista in Dallas who is presently the Public Relations man for Dr. Robert J. Morris, a John Bircher candidate for the United States Senate on the Republican ticket, who knows a great deal about this thing. Moore is a right-winger. Moore prior to taking this job with Dr. Robert Morris was employed by H.L. Hunt, who runs a radio program called Lifeline, which is also very right-wing. Schmidt guaranteed the telephone bill of Weissman and Burley."

The Matter of Mr Robert Glen Krause

There are 4 Documents at NARA pertaining to the Dallas Civil Liberties Union

1. AGENCY : HSCA

RECORD NUMBER : 180-10080-10007

RECORDS SERIES : NUMBERED FILES

AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 009445

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT

FROM : BIGGIE, W.S.

TO : GANNAWAY, W.P.

TITLE : DALLAS CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION

DATE : 04/30/1964

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : LETTER

SUBJECTS : AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION; DALLAS, TX

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 07/24/1993

COMMENTS : Includes list of Dallas members. Box 173.

2. AGENCY : HSCA

RECORD NUMBER : 180-10104-10152

RECORDS SERIES : NUMBERED FILES

AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 012682

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

FROM : BIGGIO, W.S.

TO : GANNAWAY, W.P.

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 04/30/1964

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : LETTER.

SUBJECTS : DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.; DALLAS CHAPTER OF THE

AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION.

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 06/24/1993

COMMENTS : List of known members of the Dallas ALCU. Box 224.

3. AGENCY : WC

RECORD NUMBER : 179-40002-10161

RECORDS SERIES : 10: DALLAS CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : FBI

FROM : HOOVER, J. EDGAR

TO : RANKIN, J. LEE

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 03/13/1964

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

SUBJECTS : MARTIN, JAMES; "THE WORKER"

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : REFERRED

CURRENT STATUS : POSTPONED IN FULL

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 00/00/0000

COMMENTS : COVER LETTER ENCLOSING COPY OF "THE WORKER"; BOX F06

4. AGENCY : NARA

RECORD NUMBER : 179-30001-10455

RECORDS SERIES : STATE AGENCIES AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS AND PERSONS

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : NARA

FROM : [No From]

TO : [No To]

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 00/00/0000

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

SUBJECTS : DALLAS CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION; CD'S RECEIVED

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 00/00/0000

COMMENTS : carbon copy

5. AGENCY : NARA

RECORD NUMBER : 179-30001-10456

RECORDS SERIES : NON-FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : NARA

FROM : [No From]

TO : [No To]

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 00/00/0000

PAGES : 1

DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT

SUBJECTS : DALLAS CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION; CD'S RECEIVED

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL

CURRENT STATUS : OPEN

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 00/00/0000

COMMENTS : 2 carbon copies

Interesting?

Note I may have included an excerpt in this post from another Forum topic thread, if so I apologize.

Edited by Robert Howard

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An Editorial Writer for the Dallas Morning News named Ken Thompson was, in 1963 writing a host of editorials that, to call critical of the Kennedy Administration would be an understatement, in a January 24, 1963 editorial Thomas wrote a piece entitled "ACLU Lawyer's out on a Limb" which referenced one Herman Marks, who among his 32 convictions had one for raping a 17 year old girl in Milwaukee, for which he served 3 1/2 years in prison. Marks, then later went to Cuba joining Castro's revolutionary regime, and becoming Fidel's 'chief executioner,' a line from the Thompson article says "Marks was said to be in command of the firing squads that executed hundred's of Castro's enemies."

According to Thompson, Marks re-entered the US where a Federal Court attempted to deport him for his activities in Cuba, Thompson say's that the ACLU has, supported a Ruling to the 2nd US Court of Appeals, fighting his deportation, and Thompson argues "While the ACLU can get excited about the loss of citizenship by one such as Marks who allegedly served as a professional murderer for Fidel Castro, it never seems upset about the shabby treatment of some of Mr Castro's enemies in America. Where were all those ACLU lawyers a month or so ago, when the Justice Dept. was threatening to denationalize and deport a group of American citizens and Cuban exiles in Florida who were planning to overthrow the Havana Communist Regime?" (Robert Howard)

Robert,

Meet Herman Marks.

James

Edited by James Richards

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An Editorial Writer for the Dallas Morning News named Ken Thompson was, in 1963 writing a host of editorials that, to call critical of the Kennedy Administration would be an understatement, in a January 24, 1963 editorial Thomas wrote a piece entitled "ACLU Lawyer's out on a Limb" which referenced one Herman Marks, who among his 32 convictions had one for raping a 17 year old girl in Milwaukee, for which he served 3 1/2 years in prison. Marks, then later went to Cuba joining Castro's revolutionary regime, and becoming Fidel's 'chief executioner,' a line from the Thompson article says "Marks was said to be in command of the firing squads that executed hundred's of Castro's enemies."

According to Thompson, Marks re-entered the US where a Federal Court attempted to deport him for his activities in Cuba, Thompson say's that the ACLU has, supported a Ruling to the 2nd US Court of Appeals, fighting his deportation, and Thompson argues "While the ACLU can get excited about the loss of citizenship by one such as Marks who allegedly served as a professional murderer for Fidel Castro, it never seems upset about the shabby treatment of some of Mr Castro's enemies in America. Where were all those ACLU lawyers a month or so ago, when the Justice Dept. was threatening to denationalize and deport a group of American citizens and Cuban exiles in Florida who were planning to overthrow the Havana Communist Regime?" (Robert Howard quoting text)

Robert,

Meet Herman Marks.

James

James! Gracias por favor.

In a Somewhat related vein.

Have you ever read Dick Russell's Argosy[1974?] Interview with Gerry Patrick Hemming?

He, [Hemming] talks about Hall in Dallas....Here's a quote "He [Hall] came to work with our group in 1963. The he ran afoul with some people, and immediately went to work with a group that I thought was infiltrated by Castro's agents. Hall ignored this. He siphoned off a couple of people who had worked with me in the past, and started organizing his own operation with [Frank] Sturgis and some other guy's.

And, on a "not related to this particular thread vein"

Also; do you happen to have a photo of Robert Webster [another] 'defector' to Russia?

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Robert,

Sorry, I don't have an image of Robert Webster.

I have indeed read the article you cite. I believe one of the Castro agents alluded to was one Manuel Aguilar. This is him below (on the left) with Loran Hall.

James

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Robert,

Sorry, I don't have an image of Robert Webster.

I have indeed read the article you cite. I believe one of the Castro agents alluded to was one Manuel Aguilar. This is him below (on the left) with Loran Hall.

James

If one accepts, the premise of the Agency as the perpetrator's of 11/22/63 then having a credible 'Castro did it,' [but really didn't do it, in realiity] angle would seem to be expected and would certainly have made Lyndon 'hesitate' [especially if he was implicated, in some manner] to take out Castro, like JFK failed to do ie [toe the line.] To me the whole Oswald in Mexico shennanigans scream of CIA complicity, logic dictates that there would be no other reason to lie, obfuscate and intentionally deceive, unless they either 'did Dallas' or, had the most complete "big picture view of the whole damn cast of characters" and did not operate as an intelligence agency would be expected to act when learning in advance of an active plot or plot's to kill JFK. The icing on the cake, so to speak is the scene of Richard Helms testifying before the HSCA and barely being able to contain his contempt for the whole political shell game that the show Blakey inherited [from the real 'good guy' Sprague] and was doing it's own impersonation of the CIA when it came to 'supressing evidence' [how about Blakey's comment that the Oswald/Ruby "connections" were not even explored because there was nothing credible to the allegations, in the first place, or, words to that effect. And in what parallel universe did Blakey arrive at that particular judgement? Answer the same modus operandi the CIA has maintained [which, in turn has it's own advantages] as in deliberately lying to Congress under the guise of plausible denialbility.

Final thought, the Cuban 'Castro did it' tie-in could have been [beside the LHO angle] Loran Hall, or a small number of other's, how about Pascual Enrique Ruedolo Gongora? Funny how little his name comes up, sort of like a inverted Charles 'Chuck' Rogers. See WCD/87 - SS 592, p. 2

Thank's for the photo help.

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