Craig Lamson

Yea Mark thats the problem all right, they ask for that paycheck rather than earn it.....

Un fricking believeable. Texture on the sole of Hills foot from a how many generational image, scanned how many times, jpg saved how many times? What is digital noise, what is first generation grain for the grainy 35mm film, wha tis grain from the second or third generation copy? Is it froma halftone altered with screen removal? We know how much jpg compression artifacts ahve destroyed the image by just locking at it. Is ther eeven the resloution avbailabe from the original negative to RECORD the detail you seem to think you have found? Never mind you are trying to pull detail from an area of a photographic print that is near or at the lower threshold of exposure. You can find sole texture in the blackest of black on a really crappy photo yet you are unable to see something as simple a how chrome reflects...shessh. This is not research, its a circus! You are making Jack White look sane with your sillyness John! Welcome to the CT wonderland circus! Another actor steps into the center ring! What sort of darkroom gremblins? How about NONE. The images in the Warren Commision report appear to be news clippings. How do you make copies of news clipping distort? Simple copy them without placing them under glass to make them lie flat. Oh wait that would be too simple, not sexy enough, no secret plot to make Hills foot. well, look like Hills foot. That would never do for this circus.....

ROFLMAO!

Nice rant Karl... No wonder the world seems upside down to you. It's the perspective from which you view it. Amazing eh, that the very act of taking a job by a worker is an act of capitalism...you sell your time for the most money possible....capitalism, what a concept. Looks like you are right...seems there are those here in the good old USA who really do want to be like YO UP. (satire alert for the humor challenged) AMERICANS WITH NO ABILITIES ACT WASHINGTON, DC - Congress is considering sweeping legislation, which provides new benefits for many Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA) is being hailed as a major legislation by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills or ambition. "Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society," said Barbara Boxer. "We can no longer stand by and allow people of Inability to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they do a better job, or have some idea of what they are doing." The President pointed to the success of the US Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. Approximately 74 percent of postal employees lack job skills, making this agency the single largest US employer of Persons of Inability. Private sector industries with good records of nondiscrimination against the Inept include retail sales (72%), the airline industry (68%),and home improvement "warehouse" stores (65%). The DMV also has a great record of hiring Persons of Inability. (63%) Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million "middle man" positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance. Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given, to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations which maintain a significant level of Persons of Inability in middle positions, and gives a tax credit to small and medium businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires. Finally, the AWNA ACT contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the Nonabled, banning discriminatory interview questions such as "Do you have any goals for the future?" or "Do you have any skills or experience which relate to this job?" "As a Nonabled person, I can't be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them," said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, MI due to her lack of notable job skills. "This new law should really help people like me." With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens can finally see a light at the end of the tunnel. Said Senator Ted Kennedy, "It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her adequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation."

You guys crack me up! JFK is dear instantly when his brains get blown out...all the while sitting upright with his feet on the floor. Jackie places hie lifeless head in her lap. SO how did his foot..his LEFT foot go from the floor, spinning his body so his left left leg and foot can leap up and out of the limo? Rigor mortise in 5 blocks? Sheesh and you question Hills ability to get his foot in the postiion seen in Miller? ROFLMAO! That's the point, oh he who likes to mock... I was once sure it was not Kennedy's foot. But it also makes little sense for it to be Hill's foot (assuming it's a foot). Therefore, considering that Miller was right there watching the car pass by, and said it was Kennedy's LEFT foot, the possibility now exists in my mind that Miller knew what he was talking about. PERHAPS, Mr. Mocker, the kid SAW Hill climb into this position, and KNEW that the foot was in this position before Hill made his move. Perhaps he got a better angle as the car passed, and could tell the shoe was a left shoe... It is a fact that neither Hill nor Jackie told us everything that went on in that back seat. It's possible Kennedy's body jerked about a bit in its death throws, and that they felt the nation should be spared these gory details. No it makes perfect sense, oh he who is missing his clue, for it to be Hills foot. But hey with the quality of the "research" and the skill level of the actors in this thread, what else should we expect. Maybe the next page of this thread will give us Greers foot, missing from the brake pedal....

Jack, I think some of us were waiting to see just how much paranoid propaganda you'd spew out over this piece of film without bothering to investigate it further. I mean, did you even ask Chris Davidson where he got the film ... did he find it on a bus, in an alley, in a garbage can, where??? This would be the first thing I would want to know if someone told me of a discovery. But that's OK, I'll tell you where it came from, Jack! It's the NARA preservation copy, which is the cleaned version, has some extraneous film attached before the Zapruder footage. Chris or someone just ordered a tape dub from NARA and the version they supply has what is known as film leader spliced onto the front of the reel. Leader is normally blank film, sometimes with an identification slate (or slide), that provides protection for the rest of the reel. It's standard film procedure to attach extra leader before the beginning of a film. Monaco Film Laboratory was the name of the company that did the work. They are based in San Francisco and I am sure they wouldn't mind telling you what is written on the leader film. I believe this stuff is mentioned in the Richard Trask book (National Nightmare) that's been out for a few years now. Gary Mack told me of these things some time ago .... maybe you might want to use the Museum sometimes for an educational tool to learn things if you are not going to bother ever reading Trask's book concerning the latest data on the Zapruder film. Bill Miller I've heard this film called something else.... it's OLD news, we know what it is. Having said that, the quality, even a severly compressed internet QT version, beats the hell out of the "good quality" MPI DVD version! But let's not make the quality of same THE issue... a good question, and yes, to stay on point; the necessity to reduce ANY Zapruder film blowup 16mm (or 35mm) film to 8mm? Explain please.... Lest I forget, how'd this Z-film clip get to a blowup status, and who approved same, and of course WHEN? Seems as though you were discussing at a earlier time, a specific problem, that being, alterationists being able to deliver a reasonable, good quality altered 8mm Zapruder film. Your position: the film would be instantly recognized as a fraud by non-alterationist "photo experts" some on the Lone Nut side of the equation. why? (To fool all those non-suspecting believers in the WCR ) Specifically: CONTRAST and GRAIN and film properties issues... Looks like another issue Roland Zavada and Ray Fielding will need to address in their new and improved Zavada report. Quite familiar with Monaco Film Labs, I worked for a few TV stations in the "CITY" San Francisco bayarea, film of course was the king in those day's... How about these reasons xxxx xxxxx. Maybe to VIEW it on an 8mm machine? Maybe thats the format they had available to shoot at the time? Out of 16mm stock? Maybe copy version one was created on 16mm, copy version two was created in 8mm? Lots of posibilities, one being you have no imagination? Why shoot an 8x10 chrome and then reduce it down to a 4x5 dupe? Its done all the time. you ALWAYS want your source imagery at the best resolution possible, 16mm has problems, take it direct to 35mm exactly as Moe Weitzman did in the 60's -- dumb it down to whatever the market will accept/buy -- done ALL the time. Ask MPI! No xxxxe sherlock, tell that to pinhead.

You guys crack me up! JFK is dear instantly when his brains get blown out...all the while sitting upright with his feet on the floor. Jackie places hie lifeless head in her lap. SO how did his foot..his LEFT foot go from the floor, spinning his body so his left left leg and foot can leap up and out of the limo? Rigor mortise in 5 blocks? Sheesh and you question Hills ability to get his foot in the postiion seen in Miller? ROFLMAO!

No that would be a diffuse highlight (reflection), pinhead.

How about these reasons xxxx xxxxx. Maybe to VIEW it on an 8mm machine? Maybe thats the format they had available to shoot at the time? Out of 16mm stock? Maybe copy version one was created on 16mm, copy version two was created in 8mm? Lots of posibilities, one being you have no imagination? Why shoot an 8x10 chrome and then reduce it down to a 4x5 dupe? Its done all the time.

Why? Because its simply another copy of the film...

By Peter Daniels 20 May 2006 Several recent studies have punctured the conception, assiduously fostered by the media and political defenders of the profit system, that American capitalism makes possible the rapid acquisition of wealth for anyone motivated to work for it. The truth is very different. A study by economist Tom Hertz of American University, “Understanding Mobility in America”, finds that a child born into a poor family, defined as the bottom 20 percent of the income distribution, has an infinitesimal one-in-a-hundred chance of making it into the top five percent income level. Hertz’s report, issued by the liberal think tank the Center for American Progress (CAP), studied both “intergenerational mobility” and “short-term mobility.” Intergenerational mobility, comparing an individual’s economic status with that of his or her parents, is taken as a measure of equality of opportunity, since economic success independent of the status of one’s family would seem to indicate that merit and work are the principal sources of material rewards. (snip) http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives...rts_expose.html Thank you John, I would not disagree with the major thrust of this research, (after I actually read the report and not the spin from your leftist article). I do disagree however with a few of the conclusions. First while I agree that the lack of education is factor, its not because the schools are that bad but rather its the lack of desire by the students. I've seen this first hand. They don't care. The schools are partly to blame, they just pass these kids along rather than keep them back until they actually learn. Did I mention our schools are mostly run and staffed by leftists? Second, we are a nation in flux. We are moving away from the industrial era to the post industrial era. As such the manual labor factory jobs that absorbed the folks who shunned their education are gone. Its similar to when we moved from a rural/farming era to the industrial era. Third, we have CREATED a class of people in this country that has for generations simply decided to live off the public dole rather than work to create a better life. The wonders of the welfare state. You can still better yourself in this country. I see it everyday, I work for and with those you have made it, not because they had a superior education ( though some do) or because their family had money, or they got some special breaks along the way (quite a few failed at least once). The reason they made it was DESIRE and the guts to take a risk. If you don't give a crap and are only interested in a paycheck, you will have little chance for upward mobility

SHeesh..are you really this dense or are you just playing stupid? The knuckles are also MUCH CLOSER (in lateral distance) to the top arc of the lower chrome strip. ANGLE of incidence equals angle of reflection. Please ATTEMPT to show flatness. But good luck none of the images I have seen indicate any change in profile for the triangle chrome strip as it moves backwards from the door jamb. In addition the reflective nature of the chrome and WHAT IS REFLCTED IN IT shows that no change in shape is taking place in the area in question. A number of photos show that quite clearly. Quite simply you have screwed up. Fingerprints ARE bullxxxx. Your ignorance of the subject matter is showing. Again find ONE image that shows handholds...one. Don't give me "reasonable to expect" Cleaning is not going to reduce the reflectivity of the chrome...sheesh, ever cleaned the chrome on your car? Did it stop reflecting light. No all of this is very simple, you simply cant deal with how a reflecition works. And instead of actually LEARNING you are grasping at straws in a feeble attempt to save face.

The shoe is white: I've posted NUMEROUS example of HOW. Its a reflection! Fingerprints etc..bullxxxx. Noting to reflect in the chrome but the blackness around the car. Angle of incidence equals angle of reflection. Also notice how the "reduced reflectivity of the fingersprints" INCREASES the tone of the dark chrome strip. Pretty standard studio photography trick to making a dark piece of brightwork look bright even thought there is nothing light reflected in it...coat it wilt dulling spray. Fingerprints work the same way, you have it all backwards. Knuckles: YES the ANGLES WORK! Please note exactly WHERE the knuckles are reflected and then note the shape of the chrome strip at that point. Then TRY and understand angle of incidence equals angle of reflectiion. See Wiki if needed. Show WHAT angles of the chrome strip will reflect the seat! Here is a clue, its going to take a chrome angle somewhere in the range of 20 degrees or less to place a reflection that close to the bottom of the chrome strip. There is no indication that the chrome strip flattens to that extent. Just the opposite is true.

I'll make it easy for you John, show us ANY profile fot the lower chrome strip that allows for the dark shape to be a reflection. Remember, angle of incidence equals angle of reflection. YOu find a profile that works and then lest see if that profile can fitthe limo. Please show your work that produces limo ar 2/3 scale. Why is the sock reaching, its exactly what we see in the reverse view of Hill sliding his foot into position. Not "rubbery" at all, its a near perfect match. Also ther is absolutely NO indication of a handhold in the are in question.

Wonderful! Now for the test. Lets see if Jack has a clue or if he needs to buy one. Please explain exactly how a reflection of the seatback can be found on the triangle shaped lower chrome strip? The side of this strip FACES AWAY from the seatback. Please show us the angle of incidence and angle of reflection REQUIRED for this dark shape to be a REFLECTION of the seatback in the lower chrome strip. We will NOT be grading on the curve. Added on edit: Jack really DOES need a clue...here is one...free of charge http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt3.jpg

Well of course you would post this...you get your checks from the same ABC agency that I do! You are one of the "Bad Guys" Thanks Tink.

On the left shoe, right shoe thing...Consider that this shoe is in direct light and is hanging OVER the lower chrome strip. As such it WILL impart a SHADOW and a REFLECTION onto the chrome and the black body of the car. Have you taken this into consideration? Parts of what some of you are considering as the shoe are actually the shadow and reflection of the shoe, creating the illusion that it is a left.... It apppears that the pant leg is not a pant leg but rather a sock, the pant leg is unseen. It also appears that the upper white area on the shoe is not the sock as other have suggested but rather part of the shoe.

Nice job showing JPG compression artifacts Jack. Now you have dicked around for another few posts, answer the question. What is hanging over the lower triangle chrome strip. Your last answer was that it was a shadow or a reflection..still stand by that? and If so, explain EXACTLY how either would be possible. Back to you Jack!

You should not put yourself down like this. I am sure Brendan Slattery and David R. Von Pein will be willing to say how clever you are. I could care less John, I'm not here for "repect". Only the truth. You do understand what the truth is, right?

You are looking ever more foolish Peter. You don't have the first clue about what is righ or wrong about Jacks ability to unerstand photography and yet here you are praising him to high heaven. It sure cements your status as a nutjob. You are clearly NOT the "serious researcher and truth seeker" you claim to be. You have no interest in the real truth, only that which supports your warped worldview. Peter is a much respected researcher. His understanding of world politics is clearly greater than your limited knowledge of the subject. I wonder how many members will be willing to post that they respect your views on anything? Respected? By who? The likes of you and most of the members of this forum? Hate to break this to you John but to most of the rest of the world you guys are not respected, you are considered nutjobs. Your self importance is worth nothing. I expect no repect for my views here. The respect of this "group" is not high on my list of things to be desired. One thing is for certain about Peter, he has no clue about the photographic issues of the JFK case.

You are looking ever more foolish Peter. You don't have the first clue about what is right or wrong about Jacks ability to understand photography and yet here you are praising him to high heaven. It sure cements your status as a nutjob. You are clearly NOT the "serious researcher and truth seeker" you claim to be. You have no interest in the real truth, only that which supports your warped worldview. Jack has always asked for us to question the photos and other evidence, some of which has been shown to have been concealed, destroyed, tampered with, altered, and new evidence put in its place - along with just plain filler to confuse further. He and a few others who have followed this case from nearly the day it happened have made a contribution to regaining our country and preserving noble ideals in it and the world. I know Jack has spent his own money on this and can't even concieve of all the time - and personal pain. Those of you who jump on him...seach for his name to play thug and taunt him IMO have done nothing but act to furhter conceal the truth [and I belive many of you know this fact well]. A century from now Jack White's name will still be know...you others...shall I list your names...(including the one going under a false name) will not be....unless they have a roll of dishonor/disinformation on the Assassination. You ask us to accept en toto the fu**ing lie of the offical version. Most American don't believe it and I have travelled in over 35 countires and there about 90+% do not. If you are not working for dark forces (which I would bet many of you are), why not discuss and debate with Jack (or ignore him) and stop the attacks and slander - professional and personal. The reasons are apparent to me.....in most cases....ignorance, mallace and/or to keep the Big Lie keeping the Big Liars in power. He never claimed to be right on all his theories. I stand with him that the offical version is a total sham, without merit and some of the 'evidence' as phony as a $4 bill. No "Dark Forces" at work here Peter, only the blinding white light of truth...works wonders and always sends the cockroaches like you guys running! Your problem is you would not know the truth if it bit you on the azz, Another "nutjob" post...thanks Peter.

John and Steve (and Craig and Peter and Mark and....),I have to take issue with the contention of "how different America is to the rest of the world." It's too easy to lump all Americans in via the expressions of conservatism as provided by Messrs. Lamson, Slattery, etc. As good historians, you should recognize that we wage an ongoing struggle here against the troglodytes with regressive agendas, a struggle we constantly seem to be losing due to the concentration of interest in terms of wealth, political influence, media influence, "religious" influence, etc, etc. (Power, in other words.) I thought I made it clear that I did not lump all Americans together. I know from my many friends in the United States that there is a considerable number of people willing to resist the ideas of Craig Lamson and Brendan Slattery. My point was that I made was “I doubt if you could find many people in the world outside America expressing such views as Craig Lamson”. This is a comment about right-wing conservatives, not the whole of the population. In his postings, Craig Lamson reveals that he is not a supporter of democracy. He accepts that a large percentage of the American population would favour the kind of welfare state that exists in Europe. He is therefore grateful to the American undemocratic system that stops this from happening. D. H. Lawrence once said that every philosopher ends at his fingertips. This is definitely true of Craig. He assumes that everybody is lazy and does not want to work. He thinks this is the natural reaction to the introduction of the welfare state. This is of course not true. Only a very small minority chose not to work. In reality, people get pleasure from working for a living. In fact, it helps give life meaning. It might be true that Craig is lazy and therefore needs the fear of poverty to motivate him. However, it is not true of most people. Craig has claimed he has got his money by working hard. Does he not realize that people in low paid jobs also work very hard? Sociological research shows there is little evidence to suggest a link between wealth and “working hard”. Craig probably believes the “log cabin to president myth”. In modern times, all US presidents have either been very rich or willing to do the bidding of rich sponsors. It even seems to help if you are the son of a president (maybe there is a president gene). Recent research shows that it is more difficult to obtain upward social mobility in the United States than any other advanced industrial society. This is not surprising as the quality of state education is the main determinant of upward social mobility. A good state education is an important ingredient of the welfare state. John you are quite correct, I am a a supporter of a representative republic form of government, which is what we have in America.. I am shocked that a man of your educational standing would make such a huge mistake. Makes one wonder. As such the people in this country have voted for representatives who oppose a "system like that in Europe" Good for us. That is a representative republic in action. What a great system! Poverty provides wonderful motivation. What motivation does the welfare state provide? If we look to the example of Sweden, the answer is pretty clear...not much. You want people to be motivated....they NEED ownership, not handouts. The joys of working! What a laugh. Do you think there is a difference between "working hard" and doing the "hard work"? Why not post the links to that "research" on upward mobility. I'd love to check it out.

No further comment necessary......except nothing in this surprises me. Some expert, and some 'moral stand' on the murder of the chief of state. Nothing matters but greed, money, power. Nothing would change? Ever heard of evolution or revolution, political change, social progress? You only don't want it to change. Your views fly in the face of history, science, medicine, progress, humankind. Again, I'd ask who you work for being here....would it be the Big Boys behind Halliburton with the three letter abreviation perchance....? They don't think it has no further relevance, as their continued coverup demonstrates. They also know who did it - its called first hand knowledge. Everything would change if the public really felt they knew. If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem. Your ideas and presence here are part of the cover-up and the problem IMO No further comments, LOL! ...and then as usual you rant on...what a joke you are Peter. A paranoid little fool. There will be no "revolution", no "political change", no "social progress". Why? Because aside from some misguided idealists, NO ONE CARES! The best you could ever hope for is a fewd days of TV and print coverage and then the public will want to know who won the latest game, what is on sale at the market, and what does gas cost today. That Peter is REALITY! No one cares anymore. I'm sure my presence here is a problem for some of you. You act all high and mighty about seeking the truth, but thats not what you are looking for. I've no side to protect, only the truith about the photography...you and others just don't want to hear the truth. Enjoy your little fantasy world Peter, I'm sure it is much more pleasant for you that living in reality.

While I do not care to turn another JFK related thread into a 'Jack White moon session' ... dgh: surely you jest? I sincerely have my doubts about it being scotch tape. I recall when the Apollo 13 crew had their air tank problem and how they were forced to invent a rig to fix the situation - they had used duct tape. One other thing, your moon-flag photos are different. Note the angle difference and the dark spot at the upper right of the flag. In other words, these are two different photo sessions. That would certainly account for the changing light conditions. Have you examined this series of pictures for information about the lighting? How do you know where the sun was located? Bill Miller A faked photo is a faked photo...whether JFK or Apollo...and the govt specializes in creating them. Maybe Miller and Lamson can explain this one. NASA refused. Jack Take it to another thread Jack..in fact this has been explained elsewhere on this forum. Aw, c'mon, splain it here. Folks want to know. Tell you what jacko, how bout you splain exactly what the object is that is hanging over the lower triangle chrome strip in the Miller photo. There will be a test. Then perhaps we can get to your very feeble attempt to deflect attention away from your failings on the Miller photo issue. You are so dang predictable..you get your azz kicked and you run away or try and cover with a diversion.

Agreed. Jack sadly appears to be paranoid and/or confused. Andy...I am surprised that an educator would make such a statement WITHOUT DOING HIS HOMEWORK. Here is your assignment: Jack's websites: http://library.uta.edu/findingAids/AR407.jsp http://www.911studies.com/911photostudies109.htm http://www.911studies.com/911photostudies1.htm http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_index1.html http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html http://users.skynet.be/copweb/jfk/A%20Trib...ack%20White.htm http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/oldftw/oldftw.htm also... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/081269547...ce&n=283155 http://www.jfkresearch.com/armstrong/ Get back to us after doing your homework. There will be a test. Jack LOL! Just a few weeks ago on this forum Jack White told us he had no website, and now in his last post he lists NINE WEBSITES under the heading...Jacks Websites. Clearly Andy was right on one count...Jack is confused. It is Lamson who is confused. All of these websites are provided to me FREE by others, including a prestigious university. I do have a rather "obsolete" website which I never use any more that is provided FREE by my service provider. It has not been updated for about 12 years. I did not even list two other websites (also provided free by others) which use some of my research. One is Dr. Fetzer's ASSASSINATION SCIENCE website, and the other a new site under construction on JFK research by an admirer in England. The new site will offer the viewer a chance to see my videos FREE online. I will post notification when it is further along. It will also feature much of my photo collection and JFK research. Jack Not confused at all Jack, you stated you have no website, then you have nine but they are not yours, (even though you CLAIM them as yours in this very thread) oh and yes you do have one of your own...sheesh and you think I'm confused! The truth is your friend Jack, try telling it sometime.