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    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    in The Apollo Moon Landings

    Posted

    It's not a debate - it's a massacre. You are just parroting Jack's claims without even understanding them, since you have little to no knowledge of the subject matter, and Jack's claim (since he refused to stand up for his own work) were demolished with ease.

    Jim, you are just pulling your normal routine: bluster and accuse others, avoiding at all times actually getting into a solid debate. That image was a great example. Jack uses an image without permission, and the photographer tells us that you don't have permission to use it. Apart from the fact Jack couldn't tell the difference between quad bike tracks on a beach and LRV tracks on the lunar surface, all you had to do was contact the photographer and ask permission to use it. Your arrogance wouldn't permit you to stoop so low as to actually ask someone, though, would it? Instead more bluster, more complaints, no substance.

    Go away Jim - you are a waste of my time.

    Spartacus and New World Order

    in Political Conspiracies

    Posted

    I presume what Jack is talking about is this website:

    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/

    of which John Simkin is an administrator. Both websites being to do with education and research, IMO naturally John promotes the Spartacus website on this Forum and they have many links to each other.

    John talks about it briefly on the Spartacus website:

    ...In September, 1997 I established the Spartacus Educational website and over the next six years I produced online material for the Electronic Telegraph, the European Virtual School and the Guardian's educational website, Learn.

    In 2003 I joined Andy Walker in establishing the International Education Forum....

    John talks about the creation of that website in this video:

    It's also worth reviewing this post from John:

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14334

    Whilst we are talking about Spartacus references, I would think this describes why it might be called that:

    "Spartacus' struggle, often seen as oppressed people fighting for their freedom against a slave-owning aristocracy, has found new meaning for modern writers since the 19th century."

    Giving people an information source, to enable debate and dissent, is a wonderful tool to battle those who would oppress. It could explain why John is so passionate about allowing all viewpoints to be expressed on the EF, even those he vehemently disagrees with.

    Chemtrails are back!

    in Political Conspiracies

    Posted

    Duane's post #265 also contained two extra videos which he was unable to post because of the limit on media links. That portion of his post has been transferred intact here:

    Here's an excellent video by chemtrail researcher Will Thomas' date=' that is NOT fake.

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    Chemtrails are back!

    in Political Conspiracies

    Posted

    Just how did he determine that those units were visiting?

    I'm not certain, but I believed that the US DoD had been allocated blocks of IP addresses. A website might be able to tell that they had been visited by a DoD IP but not which unit owned that IP.

    I'm willing to be corrected and have sent an e-mail to the DoD Network Operations Centre, asking that question.

    How the anti-vaxers lie to you

    in Political Conspiracies

    Posted

    1. The name Australian vaccination network is misleading, since they are anti-vaccination. Their logo, for instance: "If you love them, never vaccinate them".

    2. She claims they are not anti-vaccination, but the only material they make available is anti-vaccination... and is almost always inaccurate, misinterpreted or discredited. There is no material talking about the benefits of vaccinations.

    3. She wants free speech but denies it to others. On her forum, if you try to talk about the benefits of vaccination or challenge her sources, your posts are deleted and you are banned as "having an agenda". The only people who can post are those that support her view.

    4. She claims to want informed choice, but knowing promotes such snake oil as "homoeopathic" remedies. Amongst the claims are that it can protect against all the diseases, cure cancer, etc.

    5. She claims harassment because a single lady scientist attended attended one of the AVN public meetings, yet happily questioned whether Dana McCaffery really did die of whoopingcough, insinuated her parents had something to do with it, and launched a campaign of harassment against the McCafferys.

    If JFK Had Lived

    in JFK Assassination Debate

    Posted

    On SBS TV (Australia) tonight at 10pm.

    VIRTUAL JFK: VIETNAM IF JFK HAD LIVED tv-synopsis-line.gif

    Virtual JFK investigates one of the most debated “what if” scenarios in the history of US foreign policy: What would President John F. Kennedy have done in Vietnam if he had not been assassinated in 1963, and had he been re-elected in 1964? The resulting film assesses the plausibility of counterfactuals - “what ifs” - and the outcomes they might have produced. The film makes use of an array of resources including recently declassified and never-before-seen archival footage, documents and audio tapes from the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. (From the US) (Documentary)

    (Merged) Fetzer / Burton Apollo Hoax debate thread

    in The Apollo Moon Landings

    Posted · Edited by Evan Burton
    Added Fotosearch contact

    This is a phony argument. You are very adept as "plausible deniability". This thread must have a bona

    fide moderator who does not abuse his position, as you have done repeatedly. You not only remove posts

    that are part of my argument, as you have done in the past with Jack's posts and now this one of "Tracks

    of a Moon Rover", but do so on (what I take to be) fraudulent grounds. I contacted fotosearch, which is

    the site where I discovered the photo. They made an inquiry, contacting the source that provided it to

    them, and reported back that it WAS of a moon rover but WAS NOT taken on the moon. Your source has told

    a different story. The photo is not being used for commercial purposes and there is no copyright issue.

    Jim,

    I also contacted Fotosearch and they told me a slightly different story. They told me that:

    The information that was relayed from the publisher was, "Tire tracks imprinted in the Sahara desert sands - resemblance to lunar rover tracks."

    I think you didn't properly read the reply that was sent to you. Also remember that I also contacted the photographer directly, and they confirm they never said that it was LRV tracks.

    Anyway - what's the point? They were NOT LRV tracks, were NOT taken on the Moon, have never claimed to be of either a LRV, taken on the Moon, nor from NASA (except for Jack), so it has no bearing on this debate.

    Edited to add: BTW, the person I contacted at Fotosearch.com was Mr Jay Treichel.

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