Tim Carroll

Yes, yes, yes!

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Shanet, There were runningboards on the SS vehicle, which the agents would step off in order to run alongside the presidential limo when the crowds were too close. Those runningboards were in place. There were also pull-out running boards on the presidential limo which were not used that day. The first clip shows that Clint Hill was also running when they were ordered back to the SS vehicle ("Halfback"?) by Emory Roberts, but Rybka was suddenly and inexplicably ordered to stay behind. His reaction speaks for itself as to how non-routine this was. Tim

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LBJ was a real piece of work who would do anything, and his nomination was strongly supported by Speaker of the House Sam Rayburn. Tim

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Maybe this should be termed the "Hanging Chad Theory of the JFK Assassination." I love that term, "Mass Mistakeness." I fear we will see too much "mass mistakeness" this coming Tuesday. Tim

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Shanet: JM/WAVE = Operation Mongoose Hqtrs on the Univ of Miami South Campus ZR/RIFLE = Executive Action AM/LASH = individual human assassin: Cubela That's why AM/LASH is basically the crypt name for Cubela, a person, while JM/WAVE and ZR/RIFLE are programs. But on a similar note to Cubela, Try this one: QJ/WIN = also an individual, but unlike Cubela, this is an actual pro - a real killer. Tim

Tosh, Tosh, Tosh, I too hope you "will not find this difficult" to a degree that it becomes a turn-off for you. There are a few on this forum who really work hard to advance the history. I call on James Richards from time to time, as well as Bill Miller. You have done your work, taken the most serious kinds of risks for decades, and don't deserve to have to do all the leg work yourself in order to be responsive and accessible to the requests of others. Sometimes, direct contact with someone who can help with an issue is the best way to go. For example, when it comes to photos of anti-Castro stuff in the Florida Keys, James Richards is 'da man. When it comes to history, I rank myself pretty high. If it's ballistics, I would call on Al Carrier. We don't have what we really need here: an expert photogrammertist. Bill Miller is the best we have, IMO, and yet he can be so difficult to get along with. I wish I knew how to obtain a copy of that South Knoll photo that would be workable. Tim

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Welcome to the forum. As administrator of the JFK Forum I should make it clear it is our policy to allow all researchers to join and post their opinions on the JFK assassination.... In fact I have invited all the main “lone nut” theorists to join the forum. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> John, Let's not get carried away. Pleeeease do not invite David Von Pein or Jim Harwood over from Lancer. Tim

I agree that it looks like Oswald being very sociable, "making fun." With regard to the disinformational history that Oswald was this lonely malcontent, I've always enjoyed this photo: Now and then we have the lofty "Occam's Razor" approach to analysis mentioned, and appropriately so. My take on Oswald is that he was intelligent, if not brilliant, and fun. Tim

Do you know anything about Fred Black and Ed P Morgan? I think Ed Morgan used to be an FBI agent and was in Dallas in the forties, but not sure. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Harry. I did receive information on Fred Black and Ed Morgan from a confidentual source and a previous investigator on the Roselli death. I posted that information, today. Thanks for your help... Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tosh, Harry & Christy, Forgive my confusion, but it seems in some of these posts we are mixing William Morgan with Edward Morgan. Any clarification would be appreciated. Ed Morgan really got around: both Roselli and Maheu's attorney. Maheu brought the Mafia and CIA together in the first place, using Roselli, and then years later was instrumental in getting Roselli's boomerang assassination scenario heard, in 1967. In 1967, Maheu was the sole conduit between that freak on the top floor of the Desert Inn, with the urine jars and 7" fingernails, to the entire Hughes Military Industrial Empire. There is a very tight and ongoing nexus among Ed Morgan's extremely high-level connections and activities. As for William Morgan, it seems that he is the one who was more directly involved in pro-Castro activities initially, and then anti-Castro and eventual execution. Again, any clarification would be great. Tim

John, I'm leaving for Miami on November 6th, but will be back in California after stopping in Dallas on November 20th. I understood the seminar start-up date to be the 21st, which would work out. I'm still too computer illiterate to know how to cut and paste anything into a forum with formatting, so I have it in simple text, which won't include the bolding and underlining that I'd like to add post-posting. So anyway, I will need to submit it prior to the 6th, or not until the 20th. Tim

Tim I like your title. I hope you post it. I think my title will be: DEEP COVER: SHALLOW GRAVES: The Black Knights of Cuba The historical journey of a CIA/ Military covert operative; from the July 26 Cuban Revolution of the mid to late fifties, through America's CIA Anti Castro assassination operations, of the sixties, into Dallas, and the Kennedy Assassination of November of 1963.. The Cuban thing might compliment your work.... What do you think? Later Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tosh: Ideally, all accurate history should be complimentary and consistent. The story told by a historian should be compatible with the first hand account of a truthful witness. Regarding your title: Deep Cover, Shallow Graves; it's absolutely great! My academic conditioning leads me to advise that for a short paper topic such as would be appropriate for the Simkin seminars, it's important to narrowly define the timeframe. Aspects of your titles would fit that better than others, while some would be more suitable for a full-fledged book dealing with your activities in the Caribbean. We are definitely working on the same period and region of history; so as far as your work being an addition, or complimentary to mine, I must confess that I have already incorporated your story into mine, to a minor degree thus far. That's why I consider it important that you get the facts of your story out without the manipulations or self-interest of the money-changers. I hope that your seminar submission will stay focused on setting the record straight, in a fashion that could be legally admissable. I understand why the appearance of discrepencies, and some real ones, such as the Garland/Redbird timeline, have led some to believe that your story may not be completely credible. From my perspective, I read between the lines to see how your narrative has been tailored by people selling product to support the likes of James Files, which I consider a disservice to history. So for this seminar coming up on this forum, you don't want to go into some of the incredible Contra/Drugs/Arms things, including Barry Seal (which I am very interested in), but rather narrow the timeframe; for example: The Black Knights of Cuba: 1958-1963. This way you include the pro-Castro gunrunning in 1958 without going all the way back to the 26th of July Movement, you include the transition from pro-Castro to anti-Castro, and how JFK's initial encouragement of Operation Mongoose, then his turning away from it after the Missile Crisis, leading to the alternative funding, off-the-books operations leading to Dallas. Now that I reflect on what I've just written, even that is too broad for the exercise here. That would be more like a couple of chapters in a book that you should write. For now, on this forum, it is critical that you regain control over your own story and correct some of the misimpressions that have resulted from your off-the-cuff discussions, some on tape, about the events surrounding the Kennedy assassination. This is especially true if some of what has been published in books, videos and/or websites is incorrect, perhaps due to no fault of your own. After all, it does appear that your truly colorful career has been used to validate Files' story, which you have already made clear on this forum isn't the case. Obviously your stories don't compliment each other if you had the impression of a south knoll shooter, and not a north knoll shooter behind the fence. If you were to share the bare facts, regardless of the previous words that have been put in your mouth, it would significantly advance the understanding of just exactly what you are saying from personal, direct experience, and then which things you have reason to believe but didn't necessarily witness, such as Nicoletti's presence. I myself have found some of the Garland/Redbird stuff confusing, but I think it could be directly and succinctly clarified. If that also requires some explanation of how some people you've trusted in the past have twisted your words, then so be it. The bottom-line is that now you need to produce a narrative that is factual and which you can stand by. Just this morning I read a post by Bill Miller raising the issue of disinformation, which in this case has been massive. This seminar is an opportunity for you to set the record straight in terms that you would be willing to swear to, rendering the claims of others like Vernon inoperative and moot. My hope for you is that you never again trust another person to be in control of your word and that you refrain from speculation that can be twisted into assertion. Thanks for the compliment on the title of my submission. It is heavily influenced by the three decades-old writings of Carl Oglesby, with whom this forum has recently obtained a connection, albeit indirectly through Dawn Meredith. Tim

Bill, Isn't the Plaza bilaterally symmetrical? Aren't the north and south pergolas equidistant from Houston Street? And the relevant issue here is the location of the newsman at the time of the assassination, not where he parked his truck. Tim

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