Ken Rheberg

Hi Chris..I think it's the black man carrying the baby. What you see as a white shirt is the baby.

Duncan

Who are the two people behind the Stemmons sign?

Jack

Photo provided by Jack White.

mp3 track of Dave Wiegman interview. He describes his filming activity. Does it match the animation previously provided?

Listen/Watch and compare

chris

Hi Duncan,

I should have posted Wiegman stabilized first and then commented.

In this 11 frame animation, Wiegman is stabilized.

In the first few frames, the camera is up to his face, then he drops it down to his

chest, just as he states in the mp3 file I supplied. (Previous post).

All this time he is filming the Hester's.

Why no camera movement in the Hester footage, if someone moves the camera

from face level down to chest level, as they are continuously filming?

Also, watch Tom Craven in the lower right part of the animation.

He is filming towards the Hester's, and then in 4 frames, he turns his head and is walking forward. That's impossible. Yes 4 frames

Bell, who's film we are watching has a Kodak 8mm movie, don't know the FPS on it, a guess would be about 16 FPS.

Which means Craven does his movement in about one quarter of a second.

Where is Tom Craven's film?

Craven is also shown in pictures filming the Newman's, just like Wiegman.

I will post a comparison from Wiegman's film and a Cancellare photo later.

In Couch's movie, Wiegman is seen running down the knoll, but in the area where

the Hester's appear, someone rises at that point. (Timing)

Have to look at Couch a little closer though, to make sure it's not the Chism's.

got to run

chris

Duncan & Chris,

You've both made some mistakes here.

First, Duncan, you identified the figure behind the Stemmons sign in the Bell film as a black man carrying a baby. By that you mean John Chism carrying three year old son Ricky. It wasn't John and Ricky, however, but rather NBC's Dave Wiegman still filming the Hesters. John, Ricky and Faye Chism were standing in the grass just below shelter #4 with Ricky in Faye's arms.

Second, Chris, you identified a man in "the lower right part of the animation" of the Bell film as CBS cameraman Tom Craven. Actually, it's most likely White House cameraman Tom Atkins who left camera car #1 at about the same time as Wiegman. Craven remained in their car until sometime after the President's limo went through the triple underpass. You can see Craven's late arrival on the knoll clearly in several photos and in the Martin film. You can also spot him arriving late at the beginning of the Couch film, if you look closely, along with Atkins who continues to move toward the Newmans as Wiegman sprints down the knoll after filming the Hesters. This also means that Craven did not film the Hesters at this point in time.

Ken

Did Floyd have a history of heart problems?

No John, he did not.

I have been told that the intelligence services have ways of making people lose consciousness while driving their car. I have heard that this method was used against Mac Wallace.

And, as we all know, they can also induce heart attacks and leave no detectabe trace.

Floyd had so many talents I was unaware of. He did a molding of Stevie Ray Vaughn that is just stunning. He was also a firefighter. There were sooo many people at the wake last night.

Dawn

ps Thanks Glen, I have sent William an email.

From "The Blotter" at statesman.com

Research Blvd. traffic fatality

Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 01:39 PM

Incident date: Monday, January 1, 2007

Time: 4:27 p.m.

Location: 8200 block of Research Boulevard

Deceased: Floyd Collins Stephens, 47 (DOB: 09-02-59)

It is believed the driver of a 2000 Chevrolet pick-up was northbound in the 8200 block of Research Boulevard. For unknown reasons, the driver lost control, striking the west curb retaining wall. The vehicle then proceeded across three lanes of traffic and struck the east curb line retaining wall where it came to rest.

Stephens was transported to Brackenridge Hospital where he was pronounced dead at 5:14 p.m.

This case remains under investigation by APD Vehicular Homicide Unit detectives. Individuals with information about the incident are asked to contact detectives at 974-4761. This is the second traffic fatality in 2007.

— From the Austin Police Department

Thank you for your comment, I hadn't noticed all the details.

But is it established 100% that this is taken by Couch? I have a copy named Couch, lasting 22 seconds, showing the NFV - logo in the down-right corner. It ends showing a cop standing beside his motorcycle besides the steps up to the knoll. (Somewhere in that vicinity). Not that it has anything to do with it, but also just out of curiosity I remember I heard Jim Darnell had a motion-picture camera. Also that Mrs. Beck - story. Yet I am sure there are many stories about missing footage, and I probably have heard just a fraction of them.

I believe that the Mrs. Beck story was a false lead. There is more to that story. I try to gave you a break down of the films.

Malcolm Couch:

{WFAA-TV ABC} In Cam 3 of the presidential motorcade on Main Stree approaching Houston Street.

The front of the TSBD with the crowd on the north side of Elm Street as Cam 3 turns the corner of Houston and Elm

immediately following the shooting.

Photographers from CAM 1 and CAM 2 and other photographers on the grassy knoll with the Newsmans on the ground with

the umbrella man. Officer Haygood approaching the north curb of Elm Street with Officer Hargis running to the police

to the police cycle south of Elm Street as CAM 3 continues down Elm Street.

Police officer with his revolver drawn on the south side of Elm Street.

Members of the crowd present. Brehm. Babushka Lady, Hill, Moorman, Summers and Tague with sweeping view to

the overpass.

Photographers on the grassy knoll with the Newsmans still on the ground.

Police officer haygood trying to jump his motorcycle over the curb on the north side of Elm Street. Photographers

Weigman and Cancellare running to catch CAM1.

From the arcade of the crowd on the north side of Elm Street.

From Houston and Elm of the crowd on the north side of Elm Street.

Taken from a car driving on Elm Street of the crowd on the north side of Elm Street.

On rhw 6th floor of the TSBD of several police officers looking outside.

From the center of the plaza of the TSBD. The zoom lens is on the 6th floor window as Couch pans

down to the grassy knoll then to the corner of houston and Elm and then pack to the overpass as the Executive train

is moving on the overpass.

Footage of the arcade with several people inside.

WFAA commentator shows the rifle and telescopice sight which is similar to Oswald rifle lying in the

plaza grass with a demonstration of the bolt action.

Footage from the grassy knoll of the ceter area of the plaza.

views of the cupola, the arcade and Zapruder's position during the assassination

James Darnell

Approximately one minute after the last shot was fired, of the Elm Street activity on foot

aftered departing CAM 3

In the parking lot behind the grassy knoll.

In front of the TSBD with an arrest of possible suspect.

Inside the press roon of WBAP-TV located in the Old County Court House Building

with a witness being interviewed

Sorry for any typo's which are due to a medical problem.

hope this helps

johnw

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John,

Sorry, but the Couch film doesn't show Wiegman and Cancellare running to catch camera car #1 as you indicated. It shows CBS cameraman Tom Craven and White House cameraman Tom Atkins. Craven is then seen vaulting onto the trunk.

Ken

I'm retired. I live in the western part of the United States. My areas of interest are the film and photos taken in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 and the television coverage of that day.