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Well that's a relief, what a strange day - thanks Vince, I don't think Rex ever got a reply from customer support, looks like you got their attention!
Glad you got started on Tipping Point Ron, hope you enjoy it... Larry
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It's very strange, for me Tipping Point went first and has stayed gone all day.....several other books have gone off, come back, gone off again, back...etc. Tipping Point still remains gone though.
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Two more of my books are now gone, Shadow Warfare and The Awful Grace of God
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Well that wouldn't cover me....how about Josiah?
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Thanks Vince I will share that with Rex, he has had no response from Amazon yet. That reply does make it sound like more of a hack of some sort?
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I've been having problems with book searches and also with just the listings on my authors page. Tipping Point disappeared for awhile earlier while Creating Chaos eBook version disappeared, and this morning the print version has been off and on at various times. Amazon also removed the print version of Unidentified...and all this is happening with no notification to publishers so I have no clue.
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Its not just you Vince, I found that both Tipping Point and Creating Chaos had disappeared off Amazon this morning. Don't know if its a hack or some new Amazon policy but its pretty frustrating and I don't know when others might disappear as well.
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Totally agree with the idea of a diversion to Burkley and that Burkley had significant knowledge of the evidence for multiple shooters...
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Always great to hear Milli weigh in...!
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Great, thanks Denny, certainly I'm happy to discuss it and kick around issues and the thinking behind parts of it - clearly its not always possible to detail the backstory behind all the content. I tried to do that this time with a more extensive set of commentary in the end notes so I hope that helps. But I'm always available here or vie email.
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I'm very glad to hear that Joe, strangely we did not get a pre-release copy for review so I have not seen it yet - however my regular purchased copy is supposed to be here on Monday according to the shipping tracker.
If you want to chat while reading it just message me or drop me an email...
-- Larry
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Hi Hugo, I hope you receive your copy and find it a good read. Unfortunately we are having some problems with Amazon fulfillment and communicating with them is always challenging. I've yet to receive my own print copy even though I ordered one immediately - the good news is that its available for a read on the Mary Ferrell Foundation and we have uploaded the print manuscript files to Amazon (Kindle should go in this weekend). In my past experience publishing via Amazon can go smoothly - or not. This time it seems to be the latter.
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A great post Benjamin, I hope it gets the serious discussion it deserves. I happened to pick the phrase "tipping point" in terms of motive and timing but operationally I think you are right on the money with "piggybacking". I have no doubt that the conspirators piggybacked on a number of things the CIA was doing with Oswald's identity by the summer of 1963, some or all of which he knew little to nothing about. The CIA, as with all the really professional intelligence agencies, are really good at "using" people in that fashion. Personally I think that after his return most of Oswald's direct cooperation was with the FBI but that's another story.
I would also endorse the fact that the Dallas attack was in a since a "small" conspiracy, involving only a handful of individuals with full knowledge, how it might have been incited or otherwise enabled is another story as well, but I really see it as a ninety day sort of thing from an operational standpoint.
Don't mean to tread on you post but I did want to jump in and support it, especially in terms of "piggybacking".
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Not really sure how long that twill take Pete, of course it actually just went live on Amazon U.S. two days ago and we are still wrestling with getting the Kindle version up. I've never timed it but I seem to recall in the past its taken a month or two for my books to make it to Amazon U.K.
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I'm afraid the subject of the rear exit looks no clearer now than it did the last time I looked at it, many years ago. As with much of the official evidence there are just too many outstanding questions to resolve at this distance in time.
In reality a rear exit makes a lot of sense and its hard not to see it in a plan. The only option is to have employees inside the building take on the roles that were going to be required in terms of planting evidence and other activities (either shooting or simply making themselves visible as a diversion) - and then be hard core enough to bluff their way out of questioning afterwards.
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That's much appreciated Gene and I can promise that its as real in a historical sense as I can make it. Real people, real backstories and in particular, the dangerous reality of extremely committed individuals whose anger had been fueled again and again - until it reached the boiling point in the fall of 1963.
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Tipping Point is now available for order in the print version on Amazon.
It contains some new commentary and elaboration based on feedback on the serialized version as well as some new information, including discussion of one new and possibly significant CIA officer who has never really been on the radar before this (thanks to the ongoing work of David Boylan). It also contains an index which should prove very useful to serious readers - the indexing does include a number of crypts as well).
Rex is working on getting the Kindle version up (but working with Amazon on Kindle can be challenging) as well as further information on the book and some early reviews by some familiar names in the JFK community. As always, good reviews from readers are always most welcome.
As noted earlier, all proceeds from the sales will go to the work of the Mary Ferrell Foundation.
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Tipping Point is now available for order in the print version on Amazon.
It contains some new commentary and elaboration based on feedback on the serialized version as well as some new information, including discussion of one new and possibly significant CIA officer who has never really been on the radar before this (thanks to the ongoing work of David Boylan). It also contains an index which should prove very useful to serious readers - the indexing does include a number of crypts as well).
Rex is working on getting the Kindle version up (but working with Amazon on Kindle can be challenging) as well as further information on the book and some early reviews by some familiar names in the JFK community.
If you have read it and liked it, earlier reader reviews are always appreciated.
(we said we were shooting for book availability in the first quarter and we made it
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About the only thing I could add is that I have no doubt we do not know all of what those three men actually saw, nor herd, nor what they suspected. Which I personally feel included having seen Lee Oswald down stairs just as he described.....
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Chris, we had a great presentation on just that by Greg Wagner at last fall's Lancer conference and of course I wrote about it when I was working on SWHT. But it has not been my focus for many years now (same as the the back door issue itself for that matter). Without digging back into it I would say that Carolyn Walthers and Arnold Rowland seemed credible to me and were certainly close enough to have seen what they described; they can also be proven to have been there that afternoon.
In the meantime I'd invite Greg to post here in regard to his conclusions on the Window Watchers and who his best picks are - he has looked into it much more recently than I have but its been a discussion on this forum for ages as you can see in the link below:
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I think most everyone will be interested in this new study of records releases at the Mary Ferrell Foundation - credit goes to an immense amount of work by Rex Bradford:
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/State_of_JFK_Releases_2021.html
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Ron, I think the Carr story itself simply offers another example - and a good one with the documents - that as of Saturday morning and again on Sunday Hoover had and himself gave marching orders to "refute" or close off any lead that pointed to others than Oswald being involved in the shooting or in a conspiracy.
We have many examples of that and other examples of internal memos which expose the lengths then went to in doing that, even when the WC itself asked them to investigate things like the Odio story. That is even more egregious since we can show internal memos that directly refute the report he gave to the WC identifying the individuals in question. At this point exposing major weaknesses in the FBI investigation isn't even a question.
And in a few cases some of us have actually been able to take a lead further and open it up when the FBI had closed it. The real challenge gets to be doing the work they didn't do and in a few cases research has actually has been able to good leads further to make them more credible.
Do I think we know all we should about the Carr story...no I don't, but I will also say we have all devoted lots of time to purported witnesses whose really sensational stories are fundamentally bogus. Jim Hicks comes to mind, I won't go into others.
In regard to Carr it though it is possible to evaluate his story directly by testing - recreating his observation and evaluating his ability to see and provide the details he described that were critical to his story. I've done it on multiple occasions and failed to verify he could see those details, you described doing it as well as I recall. Even today someone could simply stand at the distance he described, and try to observe the detail he describes of a person in a window, open or closed, in the TSBD - given that you can get on the Sixth Floor and look out.
If his observation at a distance could be replicated I might give more credence to his story regardless of the FBI inquiry and documents. But when I tried to do it multiple people could not duplicate his observations and that wrapped it up for me.
Perhaps someone else will have a different result. But that's why I stay with a number of more solid witnesses to mysterious men in the windows - seen by witnesses close to the building - and not with Carr's story which includes connecting a specific individual from the window, to a rear exit and getting into a vehicle.
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Certainly makes since he would need to be "repudiated", especially since he claims he has five other witnesses that would support his story and could confirm someone else other than Oswald was a shooter...you can see it would be a really big deal, especially if he had been able to provide names and bring them into support his claims.
The problem for me is still that I can in no way see how he could have seen the detail of the man in the window from that distance that would allow him to identify him there or later on the street. I still don't see how the story goes beyond that regardless of what he claimed when??
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Ron, I have to refer you to the earlier documents I posted - including the fact that Carr said he was applying for work at that bu ilding not working there and indeed dropped his story about what he supposedly saw in a job interview later.
As to what what I'm doing in regard to continuing work, I think everyone should be familiar with that - one book last year (In Denial) which delved among other things into the Cuba Project and some pretty sensational information about JFK and the Bay of Pigs that got little discussion, the extensive 2020 Wheaton Leads paper, and a 2021 book (Tipping Point) already serialized, that's it. I have no further research/writing planned although I will hang around to offer occasional commentary or respond to questions.
As to further research on Carr, I satisfied myself on that some time ago as I've noted so I'm afraid I have nothing more to offer.
Attention Vince Palamara: New York Times review of new Secret Service book.
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I fail to see how any serious author, who should begin with a literature search, could have failed to pick up your work and make some contact....certainly raises questions about the depth of her research.