Robert Prudhomme
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No one knows where Baker was running to.
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Still trying to find out how tall Shelley was.
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21 hours ago, Micah Mileto said:
It explains the shallow back wound.
Do you have much experience with firearms? It does not explain the shallow back wound at all. In fact, the shallow back wound is one of the most well perpetuated myths of the entire assassination.
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21 hours ago, Micah Mileto said:
That makes total sense. I wonder if that could explain some of the gunpowder witnesses.
What part makes total sense to you, Micah? And what do you suppose the word "short" in the expression "short shot" is referring to?
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"..... and we also realized that this bullet - that hit him in the back - is what we called in the military a "short shot," which means that the powder in the bullet was defective so it didn't have the power to push the projectile - the bullet-clear through the body."
Do any of you still think there is anything believable about this statement? (outside of an FMJ bullet being capable of passing through JFK's chest)
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http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi/http%22//%3C/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=144214390
Bill Shelley passed away in Irving, Texas at just over 70 yeas of age in 1996.
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Amazing! No one has even one shred of information about Bill Shelley??
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Bart
Would you post a link to the FBI report you make reference to?
Billy Lovelady's statement found in CE 1381 was taken on March 19, 1964, and tells roughly the same story as both Lovelady and Shelley told in their testimony to the WC. The big difference is, in their testimony, they claimed they did not leave the steps until 3-4 minutes after the last shot; long after Baker supposedly entered the TSBD and after Gloria Calvery came running up to the TSBD steps with the news of the assassination.
Between all of their DPD statements, FBI statements and WC testimony, just how are we to determine when Shelley and Lovelady were telling the truth, and how much of what they said was modified by the FBI and the WC?
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Yes, I saw that post, Thomas, and it still does not do a thing to prove that Shelley and Lovelady were captured in the Couch film, walking down the Elm St. extension, just as Baker was running for the steps.
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I'll find out how tall Bill Shelley was, if'n it hare lips everybody on Bear Creek!
(apologies to Slim Pickens and Stanley Kubrick)
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Also, if you look at the top still in Bart's post # 2, "Shelley" is obviously a couple of inches taller than "Lovelady".
In the still below the top one (same still BTW), the two men have changed stature and are now almost the same height.
More Photoshopping?
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What annoys me the most is that the True Believers always show the one still in which "Shelley" and "Lovelady" appear to be walking together.
If you watch the film, you can see the Lovelady lookalike catches up to and passes the Shelley lookalike, without so much as a glance at him.
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Give it a rest? Is that your final answer?
Sorry, folks, this matter is far from decided.
BTW, Thomas, how did you arrive at the conclusion Bill Shelley was 5'6"?
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I've looked at both photos until my eyes were bugged out and I still cannot see a pocket. However, doesn't it bother anyone that the 1963 shirt is quite long, and the "no pocket" shirt barely makes it to the top of his pants?
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What has this got to do with the assassination of JFK?
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Oh I am, am I?
How tall was Bill Shelley, or do you not want to discuss this topic?
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And to think we were giving Brian Doyle and Duncan MacRae a hard time about the enhancements Duncan made to "Prayer Woman".
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Was Shelley wearing plaid, too?
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They are NOT a plaid pattern on a shirt, not unless Shelley was wearing plaid too.
Why don't you try finding some real proof, and stop this nonsense?
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It would prove everything except the guy walking down the Elm St. extension being Lovelady. I'm sorry but, the latest enhancement of the stills from Gerda Dunckel's gif even make some of the people's heads, as well as "Shelley's" suit jacket, appear to have a vaguely similar pattern to Lovelady's plaid shirt.
Let's face it, there just is not enough detail in the film to honestly ID the two men as Shelley and Lovelady, just as we cannot honestly ID PM as Oswald.
However, a difference in height between "Lovelady" and "Shelley" can easily be determined, and there is no doubt "Shelley" is taller. That is why I believe finding Shelley's true height in 1963 will finally tell us if this is actually S & L seen walking down the Elm St. extension.
Until then, all of this discussion about Lovelady's shirt is a waste of time.
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The real thing we should be discussing is not Lovelady's shirt but, rather, how tall Bill Shelley was in 1963. From everything I have uncovered, he was quite a bit shorter than Bill Lovelady; the exact opposite of the two fellows seen walking down the Elm St. extension.
Would that not fit into your theory, Graves?
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So someone bought Lovelady another shirt in 1976. Do you think that actually proves anything, Graves?
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Wow. I mean, just, wow.
Well, you see, Michael, it's this way. The more time spent talking about trivial things such as Lovelady's shirt pocket, the less attention is paid to topics that might actually unravel this murder case.
The operative word here is "distraction".
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You are just plain weird.
Bill Shelley Still Alive?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Hi Sandy
Thanks for finding that. I hadn't seen anything mentioned about Shelley having children but the lead on William B. Shelley seems very probable. He is listed as being related to a Maggie Shelley, and that was the name of our Shelley's wife. He is also listed as being related to a "Shell William" which could very well be a misprint of William Shelley.
I will, in my most tactful and diplomatic prose, dispatch a letter to him and politely enquire if he is the son of Willliam Shelley of JFK fame.