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9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
Jim,
The Elsbeth address could have come in one of two different ways:
1) is through the FBI. Hosty told the WC that he had known of the Elsbeth St. address as far back as March of 1963. LHO , was brought back to police headquarters around 2:00 PM or so, and even though Hosty didn't get there until 3:00 or so, Bookhout was already there and could have called back to the office to see if the FBI had anything on this Oswald guy.
2) The other way the police could have gotten the Elsbeth address was via the Lumpkin to Crichton to George Bouhe pipeline. Bouhe had Oswald's Elsbeth address as far back as November, 1962, and we know that Crichton had an inside line on info to the White Russian community because of his call to Mamamtov looking for an interpreter.
Revill wrote a memo to Gannaway about Oswald around 3:00 or 3:15 PM and used the Elsbeth St. address, so we know they had it as early as that, but I don't know that the police got it via Roy Truly.
Steve Thomas
Presumably LHO also filled out employment paperwork after the being hired. He may not have listed the address on the application, but could have listed it on his w-4, employee file, etc. Do we have copies of all employment docs?
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13 hours ago, Chris Davidson said:
I am wrong about Bell's filming location.
I agree with your summary.
I wonder if he just hopped down right in front from up above. If not, that is quite alright.
That said, this changes only slightly, the syncing of Bell/Z.
More to come.
Thanks.
I love this. Collaboration, not being stuck on a position, searching for the truth. Well done.
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On 10/11/2019 at 8:00 PM, Cliff Varnell said:
For all of us who have "Payette says goodbye" in the Ed Forum Drinking Game...
Bottoms up, again!
'Zactly.
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Fantastic news! Congrats Jim, well deserved!
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On 9/21/2019 at 1:53 PM, Joe Bauer said:
Remembering a curious event just a day or two before 9-11-2001.
I was employed as a gardener at a newly completed "Navy Lodge" hotel next to Navy housing here in Monterey, CA.
This was/is a 60 unit facility. Quite nice in construction and design. Very clean. Built just a year + before.
The Navy needed more places to house personnel who were either transitioning into permanent Navy housing here or those visiting the Naval Post Graduate School just a mile away and even a place where retired military veterans could stay if they wanted to visit the beautiful Monterey Peninsula from other parts of the country.
Apparently the Navy has built many "Navy Lodges" all around the U.S. near permanent facilities in the last 20 years or so. It saves them from having to pay for outside private lodging ( such as the expensive Trump resort ones ) for their personnel who are coming to their bases and facilities.
I was as low an employee as you can imagine. $8 an hour and less than 40 hours a week so I had no benefits at all. But, with my extensive landscape experience I helped finish the landscaping at the hotel and I can confidently say, I did an outstanding job in this effort.
However, it was just a temporary job for me as it was so low paying, and the next job I got paid 3 times more in salary and tips.
I was working at this Navy Lodge in this maintenance position before, during and after 9-11.
My memory ( flawed as it might be in my after 50 years ) recalls that a day or two "BEFORE" 9-11 we employees at this lodge were informed of a security situation that resulted in protocols I had never seen before and during the 1 year I worked there.
There were many more guards posted at every entrance and exit of all the three military facilities ( Naval Post Graduate School, the Monterey Defense Language School - DLI and even our housing area.) and much more strict checking of ID's.
All non-military traffic into the DLI was stopped ( before this civilians were allowed to drive through the facility as a short cut from the city of Monterey to the city of Pacific Grove ) and heavy entrance guard presence was established for the first time in my memory. Heavy guard presence that continues to this day!
We lodge employees were told to adhere to stricter rules of arriving and leaving at exact times and parking and I had never seen security at the entrance road leading up to the Navy Lodge until then also.
It was obvious that security was at the highest level at all these military facilities on the Monterey Peninsula from what I had ever seen living close to them as a lifetime resident of 50 years.
I "think" I also remember there were many uniformed officers coming and going ( noticeably higher in number than normal ) into our lodge offices starting one or two days before 9-11 but "for sure" on 9-11 for what I assumed was at least one staging area for security meetings, again unlike anything I had seen previously.
I think all non-essential use of the lodge was curtailed as well during those few days. Retired military visiting etc.
Again, what struck me as odd later on about all this unusual high security activity and energy was that it began before 9-11.
Of course, I didn't think too much about it afterwards when everything returned to normal and I left this position anyway not long after.
I can't prove my recollection of the pre-911 activity here is totally accurate. But, I do remember talking amongst my fellow lodge maintenance co-workers ( 3 or 4 ) ... wondering what all the heightened security was about, especially because when it all started, nothing had happened yet on the national scene.
Looking back, I am left with the guessing sense that our government knew ahead of time that something "big" was about to happen regards an attack against us or at least the threat of one , even before it happened on 9-11.
For what it's worth.
That fascinates me. At the time I was a manager for United Airlines in Kansas City, and was the Lead Ground Security Coordinator. Prior to Y2K, the millenium, the Clinton Administration sent daily bulletins, sometimes multiples, about credible domestic threats and threats to US citizens traveling abroad. The pervasive bulletins actually caused me to change my honeymoon from Italy to Maui.
Prior to 9/11 there was NO increased security at airports, no bulletins, no advisories. Nada. And we know the Bush Administration advised the Cabinet and Joint Chiefs not to fly domestic airlines about two weeks prior. So they knew of the threat, and didn't share it with the airlines - who, at that time (prior to the TSA) managed the security check points in airports!
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I thought you left.
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37 minutes ago, Lance Payette said:
Gotta learn to read, Michael. I did not equate conspiracy theorists to militant atheists. I said that the dynamics of the debate between me as a Christian and the militant atheists on an atheist-dominated site were essentially the same as those between me as a Lone Assassin proponent and the conspiracy theorists on a CT-dominated site. If it will make you happy, the dynamics are essentially the same when I as a scholarly and non-dogmatic Christian participate on a religious site dominated by fundamentalist yahoos. Every type of fundamentalist True Believer, including CTers like you, would love to eliminate the infidels like DVP and me so you can mentally masturbate in peace with your fellow CTers. That's just the reality.
As I said, your bias is showing. Screaming really. Wow.
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Wow.
JFK conspiracy theorists and militant atheists . . . even making that assertion reveals a biased mindset.
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I do wonder, for what it's worth, if there are witnesses yearning to set the record straight before they pass.
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2 hours ago, Denis Morissette said:
Not necessarily... Weird thinking.
As I said.
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You guys have the WC crew out in force. Must be on the right track.
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13 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:CREDIT: COURTESY OF GETTY IMAGES
Cate Blanchett will star in helmer-scribe David Mamet’s “Blackbird,” a present-day Hitchcockian nailbiter turning on a secret explanation for the 1963 assassination of U.S. president John F. Kennedy.
Blanchett plays Janet, who travels to Los Angeles for the funeral of her grandfather, a Hollywood visual effects artist who moonlighted for U.S. special ops agencies. Her grandfather’s well-kept secrets become a threat to her, forcing Janet to discover the truth about a man who dedicated his life to making illusion reality.
“Blackbird” is produced by Said Ben Said’s Paris-based SBS Prods., which established a reputation from its 2010 launch for producing films by heavyweight directors aimed at adult audiences: Roman Polanski’s “Carnage,” Brian De Palma’s “Passion,” and David Cronenberg’s upcoming “Maps to the Stars,” starring Julianne Moore, John Cusack and Robert Pattinson, which Ben Said is co-producing with Prospero Pictures’ Martin Katz.
SBS is handling worldwide sales. It will shoot in Sydney, part financed by Australian tax breaks, Ben Said said.Looks like that was never filmed?
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On 6/21/2019 at 5:49 PM, Chris Davidson said:
The background is stabilized.
I sped up the frame rate to 24fps so the initial zooming start point is easier to see.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TRiqS9AgADt9G6iw8yGDEVv0AZI4hsZe/view?usp=sharing
Amazing. The background "grows".
Outstanding work Chris and David.
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This is becoming a disruption. Butler has some of the best researchers on the site POLITELY trying to show him the error of what appears - to me - to be purposeful misinformation. I could be wrong of course. But the consistent attempt to show EVERYTHING as fakery does NOT further meaningful research.
Moderators, please.
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Chris and Robin, nice work.
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Google is getting worse across the board frankly.
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Embarrassing stuff from Butler, as usual. I continue to wonder if this is a disniformation attempt.
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Great additions Tony and Chris. I'm afraid you're wasting your time though.
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Ugh. The media are predictable.
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Thanks Jim.
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On 11/8/2014 at 8:30 PM, David Von Pein said:
Notice how in the inset enlargement, the lines of the window become fuzzy due to the blow up, but the line of "Oswald's" chin is distinct. Photoshop.
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20 hours ago, Keyvan Shahrdar said:
This is a link to the Dallas Morning News - The paper that Tom Dillard worked at. http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2015/jfk-portraits/ . There seems to be a figure in the windows that looks like Oswald. Has anybody been able to get a high resolution picture?
That one seems to have been altered as well.
https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/displayimage.php?pid=459&fullsize=1
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2 hours ago, Ray Mitcham said:
Got it in one, Jeremy
Exactly. We're really getting into disinformation territory.
The chest tube problem
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It's been awhile, but he had a theory, I think about bruising to the lung or pleura. I don't recall him talking about a bullet lodged in the lung.