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1 hour ago, David Josephs said:
And then there's the "OTHER" film a handful saw which includes the turn, the stop, the chaos, etc....
I wonder when it was last shown. The white whale.
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1 minute ago, Michael Walton said:
Tracy agreed. The numbers that Armstrong came up with for her income show she did quite well.
It appears that when you're able to turn the tables on the evidence Team HL resort to school yard tactics.
That's pretty much all they have left. And I'm still waiting for the big reveal of their funny theory on 60 Minutes.
LOL
No. No they don't. And they aren't sufficient to explain the real estate holdings.
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4 minutes ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
It is easy to criticize. If you would like to demonstrate how my article is in error please do. I don't have a citation to a document off the top of my head, but Armstrong makes reference to them in the early part of H&L. Jim's statements that she was poverty stricken are based almost completely on the fact that she put her children in orphanages. The idea that she could have been a somewhat cold and detached mother who was looking for free babysitting and room and board is not considered. Instead, the fact that she was able to own real estate while in "dire poverty" "proves" that she was working for the CIA and other alternatives are not considered. This is how the H&L gang operates, The purpose of my article is to offer other alternatives and in this case Armstrong's own research is the source.
It's easy to make things up too Tracy. Claiming she bought real estate by selling real estate is a circular and empty argument. It has no merit.
She was able to own real estate as you say. HOW? She ran a con? Show proof.
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12 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:
Well then, how did Marguerite pay for the first properties she bought?Yes, again, vacuous and now circular thought from Parnell. Empty.
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2 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
That may be the most vacuous thing I've ever read. The question is not did she profit from real estate, it is how did she BUY real estate. By "running a con" on everyone? Please. What's your source, as you don't give us any documentation.
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Yes, thanks for making my point.
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This topic is the most infuriating bit of the research. Those like Bernie and Parnell that simply won't look are discarding tons of credible evidence that there was something odd, at a minimum, going on with Lee Harvey Oswald. He, again, at a minimum, was NOT who the government said he was.
You don't have to buy in on the Oswald Project hook line and sinker. I'm an agnostic on Harvey and Lee. But FFS, SOMETHING was going on, he was being impersonated, there are far too many contradictory records to be explained away as clerical errors.
The photo showing LHO with a missing tooth above, if you won't even LOOK at that how serious can you be about finding the truth?
Give up your pet positions people.
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16 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
I'll agree that it is laziness to a certain degree . . . Unfortunately for them, scientific evidence refutes it.
So SHOW us. Quit talking out your arse and post your proof. Or shut up.
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1 hour ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
His explanation is that you guys are misinterpreting the school records in order to make the H&L theory work.
Asserting that without offering specifics as to the PROPER interpretation is either intellectual laziness or purposeful disinformation.
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The guy at 6:25 is interesting. Something about the way he moves, his gesture, reminds me of Oswald. Hair does look too long in back, or is ruffled from leaning against the wall in the doorway . . .
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On 9/3/2017 at 8:23 AM, Michael Walton said:
The guy walking past the tramps with his back to the camera had glasses on. It doesn't really prove anything, but I've yet to find a photo of Lansdale wearing them.
Sunny day. Possibly sunglasses.
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21 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
Because he was an old man in a nursing home when Russell talked to him and we don't even know if he was in his right mind and/or misremembering things he may have been coached to say.
Nor do you know that he wasn't in his right mind. Such vacuous assertions can be used in either direction, and in both have no validity.
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5 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:
Anyone who reads this discussion should be advised that Mr. Parnell, by his own admission, believes the Warren Report accurately described the assassination of President Kennedy.
And seems to be more than a WC apologist; he's being purposefully obtuse.
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That's what I love about Mr. Josephs: When he makes an argument he offers supporting evidence, and does so brilliantly.
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On 4/27/2017 at 11:21 PM, Chris Davidson said:
And that puts the reaction by Wiegman to a shot on Elm St at approx z347.
Which coincidentally, is exactly where shot #3 on the SS/FBI plat of Dec5,1963 says it occurred.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwrExtVD005ORnhnOUhtTVhRWHM/view?usp=sharing
So, here I follow the math, and the implication. My understanding supported by David's explanation and brilliant use of visuals. Thanks gentlemen.
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6 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said:
Michael,
Sounds reasonable to me, although judging "Shelley's and Lovelady's" comparative heights from such a distance, and given the fact that one or both of them start running / changing direction in the clip, makes it a bit problematic, IMHO. That's why I tend to go with "Lovelady's" distinctive bald spot, hair line, and (obvious to me at least) boldly-pattered and distinctive plaid shirt.
Maybe "my problem" is that I'm not sufficiently "paranoid" to seriously entertain the thought that Barto, or someone else, altered (like drawing in with a magic pencil, or something) the regular, geometrical (i.e., non- LSD spider-webbish) pattern on "Lovelady's" shirt.
-- Tommy
I'd guess it's Lovelady in all of the photos/movies in question. However, much about this case is not as it seems. Forget that at our collective peril.
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Fascinating to watch this debate. Robert is trying to find empirical evidence about height while others say opinion and appearance are enough.
What's wrong with fact based data? It can only add to the investigation IMO.
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Hi Michael
I know nothing about this photo at all. It was in the link provided by Chris Newton in post # 162 of this thread.
Thanks, and Jesus Christ. These folks aren't worried about decorum, practically celebrating the assassination.
"This JFK EXPERIENCE tour is all about the JFK assassination, we take you back in time to relive a minute by minute journey of what happened on November 22nd , 1963. On this tour you will enter Oswald's rooming house were you will get to ask questions and get answers from a once 11 year old girl that actually knew Lee Harvey Oswald. Pat Hall is now all grown up and owns the home left to her by her grand mother Gladys Johnson. "
And check out the limo tour (this thing could be a valuable reference car):
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Hi Chris
Oswald isn't leaning anymore!
Oswald's head looks over-sized now that he's standing with others.
Blowing this up, his head is a tad big, but I'd guess within reason for humans (perhaps not for Oswald's actual head in proportion). But that CHIN is VERY wide. What do you know about this photo Robert?
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God I wish I had photoshop at work so I could illustrate this, but in order to rotate the rifle below enough to view that side mount for the sling on the bottom as in the BYPs, The top sight would be rotated to an extent that it would either not be visible or be a tiny bump in the BYPs. You've got a bottom mount in the BYP and a side mount below.
-- Tommy
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Thomas
I've looked as hard as I can at that photo, and I cannot see anything resembling a side mounted sling mount. Not only that, I find it very odd that Oswald's "sling" (looks more like a piece of rope) would not hang straight down from the side of the rifle, if that is where it is attached. Instead, it appears to be hanging down from where a bottom mounted sling mount would be attached.
For Sandy "Eagle Eye" Larsen and Robert "Hawk Eye" Prudhomme:
You can see the whole photograph here: http://nypost.com/20...ame-since-1963/
-- Tommy
"To me it looks like the sling is pulled through the bottom sling mount (a hoop), and then (presumably) attached to the side mount. There ARE Carcano mounts that include both the bottom and side hoops." -- Sandy Larsen
Do you mean like this "dual-position rear barrel band," Sandy? Did they make them for the 91/38 Shot Rifle? (IDK)
[edit] Sandy,
FWIW, I'm starting to agree with you that the "rear barrel band" on the rifle in the BY photos had both a bottom (pivoting) loop and a side (stationary) slot for the sling to go through, and that "LHO's" sling went through both of them.
So unless someone changed that "rear barrel band" to the more conventional side-only loop type after the BY photos were taken, this proves that .... well, something was rotten in the state of Texas.
-- Tommy
God I wish I had photoshop at work so I could illustrate this, but in order to rotate the rifle above enough to view that side mount for the sling on the bottom as in the BYPs, The top sight would be rotated to an extent that it would either not be visible or be a tiny bump in the BYPs. You've got a bottom mount in the BYP and a side mount above.
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You can go back in time with Google earth. Here's a 2012 shot of the gate/fence before the new corner building was erected:
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I concur. The yellow house pictured is 214 Neely, clearly visible on Google Earth, and that sure appears to be the back of the gate and fence in the photos.
A Couple of Real Gems from the "Harvey and Lee" Website
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Probably.
Multiple properties from one sale that was probably purchased with insurance money. She was probably an amazing investor, a savant. She probably had a print press in each of her multiple homes for counterfeiting. She probably robbed several banks.
Probably.