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    British Army would use “Whatever Means Possible” should Jeremy Corbyn become Prime Minister. British General
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    There has been some debate about the significance of a warning issued this weekend through Rupert Murdoch’s Sunday Times by a British general that the army would “mutiny” and use “whatever means possible, fair or foul” should the new Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn ever get near 10 Downing Street.

  2. Aside from it being unsavoury, it has nothing to do with the JFK assassination. // Gordon

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    BELOW REMOVED POST # 61 of thread >>>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22227&p=314310

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    Dear Sir , Assassination and the abuse of children is unsavory ,however, said matters concern the JFK assassination study. The Forum has a history of posts on MK ultra and assassination and also the use of children in spy craft. (H & L MEGA THREAD). SEE BELOW RELEVANCE TO TOPIC. YOUR removal of my post is a anti-educational act, IMHO. gaal
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    MKULTRA and the assassination (THREAD relevant to JFK assassination)
    see >>>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4000
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    The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA's Experiments on Children
    http://www.truth-out.org/archive/item/91211:the-hidden-tragedy-of-the-cias-experiments-on-children
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    Programmed Assassins Used in Mind Control
    Image of Original Declassified CIA Document


    Declassified CIA document (image below):

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/foia_mind_control/190691_assassins_programmed_mind_control

    "Miss [redacted] was instructed (having previously expressed a fear of firearms in any fashion) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [redacted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep). Failing this, she would pick up a pistol nearby and fire it at Miss [redacted].

    "She was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate to "kill" [ redacted] for failing to awaken. Miss [redacted] carried out these suggestions to the letter including firing the (unloaded) gun at [redacted] and then proceeded to fall into a deep sleep. Both were awakened and expressed complete amnesia for the entire sequence.

  3. A SOOY FOIA (NOT SOOY IN QUESTION ,BUT INTERESTING)
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    http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/FOIA_Logs_CIA_FY2005-07.pdf

    DR. FRANCIS SOOY, JOSEPH HAMILTON, CIA RELATIONS WITH UCLA, CIA

    MANUAL ON ASSASSINATIONS, HUMAN RESOURCE EXPLOITATION TRAINING

    MANUAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL TATICTS MANUAL, FORMOSA AND OTHER

    SUBJECTS

  4. Friday, September 4, 2015

     

    Australia to replace postal voting with i-voting platform

     

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    With a land mass of over 7 million square kilometres, Australia is the sixth largest country in the world. However, it is also one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world with a total population of density of just 2.7 people per square kilometre. Compare that to the approximately 32 people per square kilometre of the United States and the 349 people per square kilometre in India. What this means is that reaching each and every citizen can be quite a logistical challenge, particularly for residents of the Outback.

    It's no wonder that the Australia Post is considering the elimination of traditional home delivery for mail, moving toward local "community mailboxes" instead. For some Australians, this could mean walking several kilometres simply to fetch or to send off any mail at all. The future of the postal service in Australia is uncertain and this could leave postal voting in jeopardy.

    As it stands, Australians do have the opportunity to vote through the mail, but this configuration is rife with challenges. Sending blank paper ballots to citizens and then requiring them to send the ballots back can be costly and time-consuming, not to mention potentially unreliable as the ballots could be lost in the mail. Online voting can overcome many of the issues of postal voting, particularly for Australians living in remote areas. If they can get online, they can vote and the ballot can be received and tabulated instantly.

    As with any change, there are risks and challenges associated with online remote voting system. Ian Brightwell, Chief Information Officer for New South Wales’ Electoral Commission, has indicated that Internet voting is worth the risk. By moving toward internet voting, the democratic process is far more accessible not only for residents of remote areas, but also for Australians who may be living overseas or travelling interstate. There is no requirement to return back to their home district to cast a ballot.

    Australian authorities are not considering to replace traditional voting altogether; their goal is to provide a complimentary alternative that will enhance the accessibility of the electoral process. Brightwell foresees the iVote system accounting for no more than 10-15% of all ballots cast.

  5. The CIA uses and abuses children. Jack Ruby,Richard Allen Davis,Augusto Pinochet ,ect, the CIA will use any type of scum for its said purposes of protecting National Security.

    CIA is almost a synonymous word for oil. Oil is essential to national security. To satisfy Saudi Arabian lusts,girls aged 8 to 12 were (are ?? ) kidnapped out of the USA by the CIA.

    Richard Allen Davis stated he kidnapped Polly Klass for the money. Davis also stated he was going to abduct an additional girl that evening. Davis delivered Polly Klass to a property controlled by the Knock/Duboc organization,which was part of the famous CIA Drug Tug operation. (see below)

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    https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/alt.true-crime/qSNAEIoDADA

    THE LORDS OF MARIJUANA AND THE KIDNAPPING OF POLLY KLAAS

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    God in heaven heard our cries,
    and angel's tears filled somber skies.
    Out of anger and out of shame
    We quickly sought to place the blame.
    It was as though secretly we shared
    fear/of a finger pointing in the mirror."

    -- a poem, "For Polly,"
    By Captain Patrick T. Parks
    "Who Killed Polly?" (Chapter 10) by Frank Spiering

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    FTR #7 Interview with Frank Spiering

    Posted by FTR August 29, 1996

    Lis­ten now: Side 1 | Side 2 <<<< AUDIO LINKS

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    This inter­view with noted crime writer Frank Spier­ing, author of Who Killed Polly, reveals facts con­cern­ing the Polly Klaas mur­der case that weren’t reported by the main­stream press. Out­rage over Polly’s mur­der led to the pas­sage of the “Three Strikes” law in Cal­i­for­nia. Although Richard Alan Davis cer­tainly kid­napped Polly, it appears unlikely that he killed her or sex­u­ally molested her. Nor did he act alone. Spier­ing reveals that Davis was prob­a­bly work­ing for some very pow­er­ful and influ­en­tial inter­ests and that Polly may very well have been sold into “white slav­ery,” used in a “snuff flick,” used for child pornog­ra­phy pur­poses, or pos­si­bly used in some sort of Satanic rit­ual. Spier­ing presents con­vinc­ing evi­dence that who­ever directed Davis and arranged for Polly’s kid­nap­ping had the sup­port and col­lu­sion of ele­ments of law enforce­ment, includ­ing the FBI. Global “kid­die porn” and “white slav­ery” oper­a­tions are detailed in the inter­view. Spier­ing died shortly after this inter­view was recorded. (Recorded in August of 1996.)

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    Drug TUG case

    http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-20-interview-with-harry-martin/

    FTR #20 Interview with Harry Martin

    Posted by FTR ⋅ November 11, 1996

    Listen now: Side 1 | Side 2 <<<< AUDIO LINKS

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    Much media attention was devoted in 1996 to "Dark Alliance," a San Jose Mercury News series discussing apparent links between San Francisco Bay Area connections to the CIA-Contra related cocaine traffic and the crack epidemic afflicting American inner cities and Afro-American communities. In 1989, Napa Sentinel editor Harry Martin drew on contacts within the law enforcement and intelligence communities to document a San Francisco Bay Area connection to the CIA-Contra related drug traffic that goes well beyond the scope of the Mercury News series. Nicknamed "the Drug Tug Case," the series analyzes a dizzying series of connections that came to light during an investigation of the bust of a barge laden with scores of tons of hashish and marijuana in San Francisco Bay. In addition to a revolving-door arrangement in which bankruptcy properties were used to maintain ownership of the Isla Jesusita (a drug and weapons-staging area off the coast of Costa Rica), the operation involved people who figured in the Christic Institute’s ill-fated investigation. The series also covers: the mysterious deaths of people involved in the case; strange legal maneuvering indicative of a cover-up; the rip-off of people who invested in a mortgage company that served as a money-laundering front in the investigation and indications that the cover-up of the case still goes on. In addition, the program touches on some of the other investigative series that Harry has done on the National Security establishment over the years. (Recorded 11/10/96.)

     

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    Richard Allen Davis History

    http://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/davis-richard-allen.htm

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    see details
    Who Killed Polly?: The True Story Behind the Abduction and Murder of Polly Klaas Paperback – July, 1995

    by Frank Spiering (Author) http://www.amazon.com/Who-Killed-Polly-Behind-Abduction/dp/0964761203

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    see SAUDI ARABIA http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2014/226806.htm & also

    http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-512-alvin-of-arabia/

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    RELATED "THE FINDERS"

    I (Steven Gaal) talked to NameBase founder Daniel Brandt who the Finders tried to recruit. He did a many year investigation of the Finders group. CIA to use children as spies ,confirmatory Harvey and Lee. ,gaal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NameBase

     

    see RELATED FINDERS POST >>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313206

  6. Putin: Friend or Foe in Syria?

    by Patrick J. Buchanan, September 18, 2015
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    What Vladimir Putin is up to in Syria makes far more sense than what Barack Obama and John Kerry appear to be up to in Syria.

    The Russians are flying transports bringing tanks and troops to an air base near the coastal city of Latakia to create a supply chain to provide a steady flow of weapons and munitions to the Syrian army.

    Syrian President Bashar Assad, an ally of Russia, has lost half his country to ISIS and the Nusra Front, a branch of al-Qaida.

    Putin fears that if Assad falls, Russia’s toehold in Syria and the Mediterranean will be lost, ISIS and al-Qaida will be in Damascus, and Islamic terrorism will have achieved its greatest victory.

    Is he wrong?

    Winston Churchill famously said in 1939: "I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest."

    Exactly. Putin is looking out for Russian national interests.

    And who do we Americans think will wind up in Damascus if Assad falls? A collapse of that regime, not out of the question, would result in a terrorist takeover, the massacre of thousands of Alawite Shiites and Syrian Christians, and the flight of millions more refugees into Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey – and thence on to Europe.

    Putin wants to prevent that. Don’t we?

    Why then are we spurning his offer to work with us?

    Are we still so miffed that when we helped to dump over the pro-Russian regime in Kiev, Putin countered by annexing Crimea?

    Get over it.

    Understandably, there is going to be friction between the two greatest military powers. Yet both of us have a vital interest in avoiding war with each other and a critical interest in seeing ISIS degraded and defeated.

    And if we consult those interests rather than respond to a reflexive Russophobia that passes for thought in the think tanks, we should be able to see our way clear to collaborate in Syria.

    Indeed, the problem in Syria is not so much with the Russians – or Iran, Hezbollah and Assad, all of whom see the Syrian civil war correctly as a fight to the finish against Sunni jihadis.

    Our problem has been that we have let our friends – the Turks, Israelis, Saudis and Gulf Arabs – convince us that no victory over ISIS can be achieved unless and until we bring down Assad.

    Once we get rid of Assad, they tell us, a grand U.S.-led coalition of Arabs and Turks can form up and march in to dispatch ISIS.

    This is neocon nonsense.

    Those giving us this advice are the same "cakewalk war" crowd who told us how Iraq would become a democratic model for the Middle East once Saddam Hussein was overthrown and how Moammar Gadhafi’s demise would mean the rise of a pro-Western Libya.

    When have these people ever been right?

    What is the brutal reality in this Syrian civil war, which has cost 250,000 lives and made refugees of half the population, with 4 million having fled the country?

    After four years of sectarian and ethnic slaughter, Syria will most likely never again be reconstituted along the century-old map lines of Sykes-Picot. Partition appears inevitable.

    And though Assad may survive for a time, his family’s days of ruling Syria are coming to a close.

    Yet it is in America’s interest not to have Assad fall – if his fall means the demoralization and collapse of his army, leaving no strong military force standing between ISIS and Damascus.

    Indeed, if Assad falls now, the beneficiary is not going to be those pro-American rebels who have defected or been routed every time they have seen combat and who are now virtually extinct.

    The victors will be ISIS and the Nusra Front, which control most of Syria between the Kurds in the northeast and the Assad regime in the southwest.

    Syria could swiftly become a strategic base camp and sanctuary of the Islamic State from which to pursue the battle for Baghdad, plot strikes against America and launch terror attacks across the region and around the world.

    Prediction: If Assad falls and ISIS rises in Damascus, a clamor will come – and not only from the Lindsey Grahams and John McCains – to send a U.S. army to invade and drive ISIS out, while the neocons go scrounging around to find a Syrian Ahmed Chalabi in northern Virginia.

    Then this nation will be convulsed in a great war debate over whether to send that U.S. army to invade Syria and destroy ISIS.

    And while our Middle Eastern and European allies sit on the sidelines and cheer on the American intervention, this country will face an antiwar movement the likes of which have not been seen since Col. Lindbergh spoke for America First.

    In making ISIS, not Assad, public enemy No. 1, Putin has it right.

    It is we Americans who are the mystery inside an enigma now.

  7. I have sent a report to the Mods requesting the off topic posts be removed.

    HARTOGS IS AN H & L TOPIC ,COULD IT BE THAT POST BE REMOVED ??

    ULTRA STRONG POST # 56 ABOVE CAUSES UPSET OF ANTI H & L CROWD. ONLY ANSWER IS TO SUPRESS., gaal

  8. Ok Gaal, I'll bite.

    I stated "20 year covert program" as a generalization.

    You reply with a 10 year "program" life for Lee & Harvey and a Palinesque word-salad about all the other MKULTRA victims.

    I don't mind changing my sentence to say "10 year covert program"

    Is everything ok now?

    PS I read the book.

    EVERYTHING OK !!

    IF YOU READ THE BOOK ,WHY DID YOU SAY 20 YEARS ????????????????????.,gaal

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  9. And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON

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    FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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    http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

    In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

    Completely debunked as I have shown this to be nothing but a misreading of the Beauregard records coupled with the manipulation of a witness and her memory while disregarding other witnesses. Not going through it all again. It is all explained in the H & L thread.

    Have shown ?? SOME Disagree re Beauregrd. >>>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313133

  10. And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON

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    FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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    http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

    In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

    Yes, Chris.

    It was only 10 years.

    A veritable blink of the eye.

    LOL

    --Tommy :sun

    And in 14 days absorb H & L !! ,gaal

  11. And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON
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    FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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    http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

    In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

  12. Richard Lehman not totally positive TEAM B per above interview. ,yet a hard core militarist. see below

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2004/07/tom-barry/old-sailors-never-die-911-commissioner-john-lehman-on-the-war-path/

  13. I don't believe the CIA or its employees planned or executed the plan to kill JFK. That would have been treason, and I don't think CIA officers in those days committed treason.

    On the other hand, I put nothing, absolutely nothing, past the CIA in the period 1960-1973

    Was the CIA unwilling to create, for its own purposes, such a composite? I don't know. I do know that one who asserts, "No!" is naive.
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    I don't believe the CIA or its employees planned to kill JFK. Some employees may have played a role (at arms length) in the execution of the plan to kill JFK. They transcended the concept of "treason" as it would be understood by the average person.
    I put nothing past the CIA in the period 1947 to present day.
    Was the CIA unwilling to create, for its own purposes, a composite as described in the book "Harvey & Lee"? Yes, for the same reason it would be unwilling to contemplate any number of schemes that defy all intelligence protocols, and that required a set of improbabilities to unfold for over a twenty year period, which in this case, included, but was not limited to, finding the right two babies/boys, testing the entire family of both as to likelihood of getting on board, maintaining secrecy, the ability to follow directions, and being able to prolong the deception for a lifetime, being able to ensure that no other agency - domestic or foreign - would ever suspect what you're doing - and most importantly - having more than just a vague notion that this operation would one serve some specific purpose commensurate with the huge risks in undertaking it. As with anything in life - there is a risk to reward ratio. This fails on that alone -- with a massive risk set in motion for a nebulous reward, it would require the CIA to resemble the Keystone Kops. They were anything but.
    What the CIA and their counterparts did do was create legends, backstopping them with a phony paper trail (fake licenses, fake rental receipts, pocket litter etc) and take over the identities of real people - usually deceased. But unless you're talking about the FBI, this was done in TARGET countries - not your own.
    In the case of an unwitting asset now under arrest of course, things like pocket litter and ID cards would have to be planted and rental records faked after the asset was eliminated.
    What the CIA and their counterparts did do was create legends, backstopping them with a phony paper trail (fake licenses, fake rental receipts, pocket litter etc) and take over the identities of real people - usually deceased. But unless you're talking about the FBI, this was done in TARGET countries - not your own.
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    GOLLY SCHOLAR PARKER STRIKES AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,gaal

    How Thousands Of Nazis Were 'Rewarded' With Life In The U.S.

    November 05, 2014 3:09 PM ET

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    The Nazis Next Door

    How America Became a Safe Haven for Hitler's Men

    by Eric Lichtblau

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    In the early '70s, New York Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman received a confidential tip that American immigration authorities knew of dozens of former Nazis — some implicated in serious war crimes — who were living in the U.S.

    Holtzman looked into it and discovered that it was true, and that the formerly named Immigration and Naturalization Service wasn't doing much about it.

    But that was just the tip of the iceberg, according to investigative reporter Eric Lichtblau.

    In his new book, The Nazis Next Door, Lichtblau reports that thousands of Nazis managed to settle in the United States after World War II, often with the direct assistance of American intelligence officials who saw them as potential spies and informants in the Cold War against the Soviet Union.

    Lichtblau says there were whole networks of spy groups around the world made up of Nazis — and they entered the U.S., one by one.

    "They sort of had put in their service," Lichtblau tells Fresh Air's Dave Davies. "This was their 'reward' ... for their spy service ... coming to the United States and being able to live out their lives basically with anonymity and no scrutiny."

    Most Americans knew little about the Nazis among them. And then in 1979, media reports and congressional interest finally spurred the creation of a Nazi-hunting unit with the Justice Department.

    That prompted the first wave of Nazi-hunting, Lichtblau says.

    "You had teams of lawyers and investigators and historians at the Justice Department who began ... looking at hundreds and hundreds of names of suspected Nazis and Nazi collaborators who were living all around the country, in Queens, in Baltimore, in Florida and Chicago," he says.

    And, in some cases, the CIA had scrubbed the Nazis' files, Lichtblau says.

    "They actively cleansed their records," Lichtblau says. "They realized that guys who had been involved at senior levels of Nazi atrocities would not pass through immigration at the INS — and they basically removed a lot of the Nazi material from their files."

    Eric Lichtblau is an investigative reporter for The New York Times. In 2006, he won a Pulitzer Prize with James Risen for their stories on the National Security Agency's secret surveillance of American citizens. Sonia Suter/Courtesy of Houghton Mifflin hide caption

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    Eric Lichtblau is an investigative reporter for The New York Times. In 2006, he won a Pulitzer Prize with James Risen for their stories on the National Security Agency's secret surveillance of American citizens.

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    Interview Highlights

    On the treatment of the Jews after liberation

    Even after the liberation of the camps, they were still prisoners. They were kept under armed guard; they were kept behind barbed wire; they were bunked with Nazi POWs. And in some cases, believe it or not, the Nazis still lorded over them while the Allies ruled the camp.

    When I started researching the book, this was a book about the Nazis who fled to America. I really had no intention of looking at the survivors — it seemed sort of irrelevant to what I was doing.

    And then the more I got into it, and the more horrified I was by the conditions that the survivors lived in — where you had thousands and thousands of people dying even after the liberation, of disease, of malnutrition. I realized it was relevant to the story because as easy as it was for the Nazis to get into America, it was just as horribly difficult for the Jews and the other survivors to get out of the camps.

    It took them months, and in some cases a couple of years, to get out of these displaced-person camps. It made me realize that the liberation that I had learned about years ago was in some sense sort of a mockery.

    On Nazis running the camps even after the liberation

    [u.S. Army] Gen. [George] Patton believed that the Nazis were best suited to run these camps. In fact, he openly defied orders from then Gen. [Dwight] Eisenhower, who was in charge of the European forces after the war.

    Patton was in charge of the displaced persons camps. Patton had sort of an odd fondness almost for the Nazi prisoners, believe it or not. He believed that they [were] the ones in the best position to efficiently run the camps — and he gave them supervisory approval to basically lord over the Jews and the other survivors.

    On Nazis and Nazi collaborators getting visas to the United States

    In the early months, and first few years after the war, beginning in mid-1945, [there were] only a very limited number of immigration visas to get into the United States.

    There were many, many thousands of Nazi collaborators who got visas to the United States while the survivors did not — even though they had been, for instance, the head of a Nazi concentration camp.

    Eric Lichtblau

    Of all the [Holocaust] survivors in the camps, only a few thousand came in in [the] first year or so. To get a visa was a precious commodity, and there were immigration policymakers in Washington who were on record saying that they didn't think the Jews should be let in because they were "lazy people" or "entitled people" and they didn't want them in.

    But there were many, many thousands of Nazi collaborators who got visas to the United States while the survivors did not — even though they had been, for instance, the head of a Nazi concentration camp, the warden at a camp, or the secret police chief in Lithuania who signed the death warrants for people. ...

    The bulk of the people who got into the United States — some were from Germany itself, some in fact were senior officers in the Nazi party under Hitler — but more were the Nazi collaborators.

    On U.S. intelligence using Nazis as spies

    There were upwards of a thousand Nazis who were used by U.S. intelligence after the war by the CIA, the FBI, the military and other U.S. intelligence agencies — both in Europe as well as inside the United States, in Latin America, in the Middle East, even a few in Australia. And these were seen as basically cold warriors who served as spies, informants and in other intelligence roles.

    On whether it was an official policy to bring in Nazis as spies

    I think it was ad hoc. It was not a formal policy approved by the White House or even [Director Allen] Dulles at the CIA to say, "We are going to actively recruit Nazis, their pasts be damned."

    There's no document that I found which gives blanket authority for that. But it grew sort of organically because you had whole networks of Nazi spy groups in Europe ... as well as the Middle East and Latin America, and often these guys made it into the United States sort of one by one.

    There's very little evidence that [the Nazis] had much to do with each other once they got to the United States.

    On the remaining classified documents

    There are still documents that remain classified today about the CIA's relationship with Nazi figures in the '40s and '50s and into the '60s. A lot of these documents have become declassified just in the last 10 or 15 years. ... There are documents that may open up whole new chapters that still remain classified that I'd love to see.

  14. You mention the British using Lansky to achieve their globalist dreams. How did they get Lansky on their side?

    We have to go back, way back, to 1928, to explain this British-Lansky connection. In China, there were three large triads, or gangs, exporting narcotics. Originally, the Kuo Ming Tang and Chiang Kai Shek supported these people. At the same time they were also fighting a prolonged war with the Communists. So for publicity reasons, and to get them back on the good side with the Americans who could help them in the war against the Communists, the KMT publicly went against the triads. At the same time, they made a secret deal with one of these gangs. There was some financial gain to having this narcotics export into the Far East and America, but where they were located were mostly Chinese areas and they wanted to expand and make more money. The book by Douglas Valentine indicates that a State Department man was involved in the Chinese narcotics trade. Apparently, he and other State Department people thought that helping the KMT with the drug trade was a good thing in stopping the spread of communism. Of course, they soon realized it would not be good if American diplomats and officials were caught with loads of narcotics. So they asked themselves, “Can’t we get someone else to do the job?” That is why they reached out to Lansky to be a major drug distributor. This was in the 1930s. So he was in contact with elites possibly before World War II. There is a story that he was called in to help the ONI and the OSS to protect ports in New York and help with the invasion of Sicily. Well, that’s the cover story, because he was possibly in contact with these people before the war. Before World War II and the creation of the OSS and the CIA, ONI was our major intelligence organization, and very likely they knew about Lansky and what he was doing before the war. That just makes sense.

    So Lansky was an operative for the ONI, but it is possible that he was more of an operative for the British. This would explain why he helped Castro, which on the surface appears to be against his own interests. But something else was occurring at the same time. He was in contact with the very elites and owners of the Bahamas. Now someone could say that he was just setting that up as a safety valve. But the deeper view is that he knew that Castro was going to win. That’s what his masters, the British, wanted. The British helped him set up his operations in the Bahamas. By the way, in 1961 the British changed their laws on casinos and gambling and by 1964 Lansky had a casino in London. Isn't that amazing?

    We have now explained the motivations of Clay Shaw with Permindex, and Lansky working for the British to help Castro. Now let me add that in the early 1960s British Guyana was going to go communist, and the British were pulling out. Apparently Kennedy found out that the British weren’t helping set up an anti-communist regime, but they were letting a communist man take the lead in taking over that country. Now you can have more than one explanation of why the British did it, perhaps because they were pressuring Kennedy to help them with their submarine missile technology, but it does indicate that the British did not mind letting a small, Western Hemisphere country go communist. If you read “Deadly Deception” and understood what it meant, the British were just so afraid and angered of neutral America. They wanted America on its side and doing its will. Beyond the scope of this interview, if you look at what the British elite and banking system did with the creation of the Federal Reserve, and their power behind the Morgan group, you see that the British were trying to financially control America.

    ======

    ANY ONE SEE parallel British Guyana and Cuba ????? . Britain got Polaris Submarine Technology and then started helping the USA put a anti communist government in British Guyana. Was this Coincidence or Conspiracy ??

    The official view of the British Foreign Service was that arm sales to Castro prevented him from being too dependent on RUSSIA, Tito-ize Castro ,so to speak.

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    ONLY PART OF 79 items BRITISH GUIANA. YES THE USA WAS WORRIED IT WOULD GO COMMUNIST. BRITIAN ONLY HELPED BRITISH GUIANA NOT GO COMMUNIST ONLY AFTER POLARIS TECHNOLOGY TRANSFERED TO THEM. Was this Coincidence or Conspiracy ??

    MAYBE BUNDY/ HARRIMAN ARE NOT LOYAL TO USA BUT GREAT BRITIAN. JUST SAAAAAYING. gaal

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    The Collection of Presidential Briefing Products from 1961 to 1969

    Search results
    1. LETTER TO J. EDGAR HOOVER FROM JOHN A. MCCONE RE LETTER OF 23 MAY ABOUT COMMUNIST INTENTIONS TOWARD BRITISH GUIANA

      intentions toward. British Guiana.- AIr. Belmont...'... Mr. Mfr. Cal?&ic.n.._ I Mr., lrvans.,;41r.. ...

    2. ABORTED PLOT IS SUSPECTED IN HAITI

      RECORDED' 8 APR 19 1963 wwww 2- OTEII;R COUNTRIES 15 April 1963 BRITISH GUIANA FACING LABOR STRIFE Paris AFP ... wiihin"three days between British Guiana Premier Cheddi Jagan's.ruling People's Progressive Party ... and the Guiana Trade Unions'Council (TUC), representing over g0 percent of the colony's 55,000 workers. ...

    3. DEPUTIES' MEETING

      at the Deputies' Meeting on Monday, 4 May. Mr. Amory: a. Reported that in a recent election in British Guiana ...

    4. INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISIONS OF BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP61-00391R000200240004-9 U 7 July 5, 1958 REPORT ...

    5. INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISIONS OF BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP61-00391R000200240003-0 U 1 July 5, 1958 REPORT ...

    6. THE SITUATION AND PROSPECTS IN BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79R00904A000800020037-4 S 13 February 3, 1962 MF ...

    7. BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP67B00446R000600260027-9 C 4 January 5, 1965 BRIEF ...

    8. YANKEE COUP... 1964 OVERTHROW OF GUIANA LEFTISTS BLAMED ON UNION BANKROLLED BY CIA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP75-00149R000400180002-0 K 1 March 3, 1967 NSPR ...

    9. INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISIONS OF BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79-00979A000100100002-3 U 8 July 5, 1958 REPORT ...

    10. TRANSMITTAL OF CIA/RR G/E-86, INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISIONS OF BRITISH GUIANA (FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY)

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79-00979A000100100001-4 U 3 August 3, 1958 MF ...

    11. IMPENDING ELECTIONS IN MARTINIQUE AND FRENCH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP91T01172R000300050036-6 S 2 February 5, 1955 MEMORANDUM ...

    12. POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS OF STRIKES IN BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79T00429A001100030020-0 S 2 March 3, 1963 MEMORANDUM ...

    13. BRITISH GUIANA ELECTIONS

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79S00427A000100060027-4 T 11 July 5, 1961 MEMORANDUM ...

    14. BRITISH GUIANA APPROACHES A CRITICAL ELECTION

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79-00927A004700020003-8 S 10 October 5, 1964 REPORT ...

    15. THE GUIANAS: DEVELOPMENT AND DISCORD

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP84-00825R000100560001-4 S 15 November 1, 1968 IM ...

    16. CROSSCURRENTS IN BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79-00927A004300020002-3 S 10 November 5, 1963 REPORT ...

    17. BRITISH GUIANA ELECTIONS OF 21 AUGUST 1961

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79S00427A000500020001-2 S 6 June 1, 1961 IM ...

    18. MEMORANDUM FOR THE DIRECTOR, 'THE SITUATION AND PROSPECTS IN BRITISH GUIANA (INCORPORATING SUGGESTED WHD CHANGES)' DATED 6 MARCH 1962

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79R00904A000800020049-1 S 2 February 5, 1962 MF ...

    19. BRITISH GUIANA

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP82R00025R000400220014-3 C 4 January 5, 1965 BRIEF ...

    20. ANNEX TO MEMORANDUM ON BRITIAN GUIANA ELECTIONS DATED 9 AUGUST

      CREST CREST: 25-Year Program Archive CIA-RDP79S00427A000500040018-2 S 4 MEMORANDUM ...

  15. OpEdNews Op Eds

    9/15/2015 at 09:14:42

    Subversion Against Cuba Continues Uninterrupted Amidst Normalization

    By Matt Peppe

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    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Subversion-Against-Cuba-Co-by-Matt-Peppe-Cuban-Embargo_Cuban-Embassy-Reopens_Government_Media-150915-89.html

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    U.S. and Cuban delegations met in Havana Friday to "focus on setting priorities for the next steps in the normalization process," according to the Miami Herald. They set up a "steering committee in the rapprochement process" expected to hold regular meetings. The process was laid out last month after the American flag was raised at the newly-opened U.S. embassy in Havana. Secretary of State John Kerry noted on the occasion that "the road of mutual isolation that the United States and Cuba have been travelling is not the right one, and that the time has come for us to move in a more promising direction." The Obama administration has since announced loosening of restrictions that would permit American citizens to travel to Cuba on both commercial flights and cruise ships.

    Superficially, it would seem that U.S. policy has moved away from a half-century of economic warfare, terrorism, subversion, and interference in the internal affairs of the nation American politicians have long considered a "natural appendage" of the United States, which would fall into the U.S. orbit like an apple from a tree, as John Quincy Adams once said.

    If U.S. policy makers had indeed abandoned this attitude and actually moved in a more promising direction, it would mean they finally decided to engage their counterpart as Cuban Minister of Foreign Affairs Bruno Rodrguez stated his government was willing to with the United States itself: "through a dialogue based on mutual respect and sovereign equality, to a civilized coexistence, even despite the differences that exist between both governments, which makes it possible to solve bilateral problems and promote cooperation and development of mutually beneficial relations, just as both peoples desire and deserve."

    But despite extending formal diplomatic courtesies and speaking in a more conciliatory tone, the Obama administration has demonstrated behind the scenes that it does not intend to demonstrate mutual respect or recognize sovereign equality.

    As the delegations met on Friday, Obama quietly renewed Cuba's status as an "enemy" under the Trading With the Enemy Act (TWEA) of 1917. Under this Act, utilized against Cuba by every President since John F. Kennedy in 1962, the government issues the Cuban Assets Control Regulations to set the terms of the embargo (more accurately described by Cuba and the United Nations as a blockade).

    By extending this enemy designation, the Obama administration is reserving the right to dictate the terms of the embargo, rather than allowing Congress to do so under the 1996 Helms-Burton Act. While Obama has shown himself more willing than Congress to relax some punitive and illegal aspects of the embargo than the current Congress, by continuing to define Cuba as an enemy he is both sending an hostile signal to Cuba and employing a transparent legal fiction.

    An "enemy" in the TWEA is specified as a government with which the U.S. is at war, as declared by Congress. Congress has never declared war on Cuba. They have not declared war on any country since Japan in 1941.

    While it may be true that renewing the TWEA against Cuba may be more beneficial to Cuba by granting the executive branch greater flexibility, the fraudulent nature of the continued imposition of legal sanctions against Cuba should be emphasized. Though Obama has said U.S. policy against Cuba "has been rooted in the best of intentions," it has in reality been rooted in vindictiveness and shrouded in legal distortions that continue to this day.

    At the same time, the flood of U.S. taxpayer dollars earmarked with the express purpose of regime change in Havana continues unabated. The fiscal year 2016 budget contains $30 million for this purpose.

    One use of these funds is for a US propaganda agency to hire mercenaries to denigrate Cuban civil and political personalities. As Tracey Eaton notes in his blog Along the Malecón: "The U.S. government wants to hire entertainers who would produce 'uniquely funny, ironic, satirical and entertaining' comedy shows targeting Cuban officials, politicians and others on the island. The Office of Cuba Broadcasting, which runs Radio & TV Mart, is looking for a team that would produce 10 30-minute comedy sketch shows."

    The infamous Radio Mart has been broadcasting John Birch Society type propaganda from Miami into Cuba since the 1980s. The U.S. has continued to fund the station, despite its being declared illegal by the Cuban government. One wonders how the U.S. government itself would react if the Russian or Chinese government financed a program lambasting Obama, Kerry, and other Americans for political gain while disguising it as organically developed entertainment? It is not likely they would view a strategic attack created and financed abroad, rather than being a homegrown political expression of dissent, as protected free speech.

    USAID, after being exposed for its subversive Cuban Twitter program "ZunZuneo", which sought to sow discontent and stir unrest among the Cuban population, and its effort to co-opt Cuban hip hop artists, announced last week that it is seeking three program managers to be awarded six-figure salaries.

    Eaton writes that the job description calls for "experience in the areas of democracy promotion, human rights, civil society development" and that candidates must obtain a "secret" security clearance. It is not hard to imagine that these highly compensated program managers would likely be implementing similar covert programs to destabilize Cuban society and attempt to turn its citizens away from the Revolution.

    The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) - an arm of US foreign policy that overtly carries out programs that previously were undertaken covertly by the CIA - is also hiring a Program Officer to work on NED's "Cuba grants program" and "developing the Endowment's strategy for Cuba." Unlike the USAID positions, which are indicated to be in Washington, this position would require "regular field visits."

    Cuban blogger and former State Security Agent Percy Francisco Alvarado Godoy writes that the position is for "someone in charge of mounting all types of subversion against the Cuban government on behalf of the NED... completely illegal, meddlesome, and violative of our sovereignty and, therefore, will not admit any of his activity in our territory."

    It is clear that the U.S. continues to act towards Cuba with utter disregard for mutual respect and sovereign equality despite the formalities uncritically accepted by mainstream media as true normalization. By looking beyond the face value of the words of American officials, one can't help but recognize that relations are anything but normal. Until the U.S. government recognizes that normal cannot include sanctioning, illegally occupying, and spending tens of millions of dollars on subversion and interference in another country's internal affairs, "normalization" remains nothing more than a vacuous abstraction.

  16. Anyway, so you believe it is because those nations have some type of 'favoured' status? Or is it because those countries don't want any and the Western governments refuse to pressure them to do so because...? // BURON QUESTION

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    GAAL ANSWER

    OIL /ARMS deals / circulation Petrodollar in investments in the West stock markets

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    www.globalresearch.ca
    www.globalresearch.ca/massive-eu-weapons...saudi-arabia.../29881

  17. Larry,

    Thanks for the link, this seems to be a very fair-minded study that will provide food for thought for researchers of all persuasions.

    Yes I can see points on both sides.

    Lets try the CT side.

    1. Epstein/JJA (the CT side believe they are connected at the hip) promote via disinformation LHO as a commie defector. PER KEVIN COOGAN article post # 1
    2. Richard Case Nagell states LHO trying to get Communist Japanese asset over to USA side.
    3. If I believe point 1 ,then point 2 is made to look more solid and true as LHO is acting in a CE manner under JJA.
    4. Mr. Parnell ,Dick Russell writes his first JFK assassination article in 1975 and then receives a 'special' letter with inside info that Willoughby did the Elm St deal.
    5. I know of other researchers contacted by people claiming 'special' info on the assassination that seem to always lead away from the CIA.
    6. CTKA found money links between McAdams and the intelligence services.
    7. It seems that after 50 plus years there still is a disinformation campaign. GAAL
  18. Here we have the CIA employed sister of the future benefactor of LHO working on a FICON project dealing with radar personnel at the same time Oswald is entering the Marines and being trained in that particular field. Taken in the fuller context of the likelihood that the Hyde clan knew the Ekdahls and that FICON had a ariel surveillance component, it all gets a little too coincidental for my taste.

    But no one has to agree with my take on it. I have more new info to come concerning the defection.

    Her specific role with the CIA during those years has now been published for the first time. At the very least.... that question is now answered. // PARKER QUOTE

    #####################################################################################################################################

    Timeline of the Life of Lee Harvey Oswald

    By W. Tracy Parnell and also Warren Commission Timeline

     

    http://jfkassassination.net/parnell/chrono.htm

    January 10, 1948: Marguerite orders Ekdahl out of the house.

    June 24, 1948: The Ekdahls are divorced, Taken in the fuller context of the likelihood that the Hyde clan knew the Ekdahls and that FICON had a ariel surveillance component, it all gets a little too coincidental for my taste.

    Marguerite retains the name Oswald. // PARKER QUOTE IN RED

    LHO completes the second grade. (June 24,1948)

    October, 1955: LHO tries to enlist in the Marines but is denied.

    Dolly Shoe (1955 SPRING ,W/C)

    November 10, 1955: LHO starts work as a messenger boy at Gerald F. Tujague Inc.

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    THIRD DECADE ARTICLE SHOWS LHO HAS ODD SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER (DOLLY SHOE) (Probably intel related) gaal

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    KNEW THE EKDAHL'S ?? YOU MEAN HE WAS SELECTED FOR INTELL RIGHT AFTER SECOND GRADE ?? ,Welcome to Harvey & Lee.,gaal

    See ya, Stevo. I've had my fill off idiots.

    But no one has to agree with my take on it. I have more new info to come concerning the defection. // PARKER QUOTE IN RED

    =================================================================================================

    KNEW THE EKDAHL'S ?? YOU MEAN HE WAS SELECTED FOR INTELL RIGHT AFTER SECOND GRADE ?? (SEE ABOVE TIMELINE) ,Welcome

    to Harvey & Lee.,gaal

    Likelihood that a one family knew another (Hyde clan knew the Ekdahls ,per Parker) 23 years before PAINES MEET Oswalds seem like a meaningless stretch of facts. ,gaal

  19. Here we have the CIA employed sister of the future benefactor of LHO working on a FICON project dealing with radar personnel at the same time Oswald is entering the Marines and being trained in that particular field. Taken in the fuller context of the likelihood that the Hyde clan knew the Ekdahls and that FICON had a ariel surveillance component, it all gets a little too coincidental for my taste.

    But no one has to agree with my take on it. I have more new info to come concerning the defection.

    Her specific role with the CIA during those years has now been published for the first time. At the very least.... that question is now answered. // PARKER QUOTE

    #####################################################################################################################################

    Timeline of the Life of Lee Harvey Oswald

    By W. Tracy Parnell and also Warren Commission Timeline

     

    http://jfkassassination.net/parnell/chrono.htm

    January 10, 1948: Marguerite orders Ekdahl out of the house.

    June 24, 1948: The Ekdahls are divorced, and Marguerite retains the name Oswald.

    LHO completes the second grade.

    October, 1955: LHO tries to enlist in the Marines but is denied.

    Dolly Shoe (1955 SPRING ,W/C)

    November 10, 1955: LHO starts work as a messenger boy at Gerald F. Tujague Inc.

    ########################################################

    THIRD DECADE ARTICLE SHOWS LHO HAS ODD SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER (DOLLY SHOE) (Probably intel related) gaal

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    KNEW THE EKDAHL'S ?? YOU MEAN HE WAS SELECTED FOR INTELL RIGHT AFTER SECOND GRADE ?? ,Welcome to Harvey & Lee.,gaal

  20. INTERNET RESULTS SYLVIA HOKE

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    Standardization of the GATB for the Occupation of Tabulating Machine Operator
    TM Operator - Journal of applied psychology, 1954 - psycnet.apa.org
    ... participated in the planning of the study, coordination of the collec- tion of data by the New Jersey,
    North Carolina, Wisconsin and California State Employment Serv- ices, and review of the
    completed study: Dr. Bea- trice J. Dvorak, Albert Mapou, Charles Meigh and Sylvia Hoke. ...
    ========================================
    The Improvement of Television Instruction in Army Training: Application to Selected Hours in Basic Radio Circuits.
    J Kanner, O Desiderato, G Wischner, RJ Jones… - 1957 - DTIC Document
    Page 1. LASSIFIED ARMY TRAINING : APP—fit (U) !!O72 5O7 ~~~~~ AN RE ~~~~ cES R!RcH
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    Bibliography of Publications as of 30 June 1968. George Washington Univ., Alexandria,
    Va. Human Resources Research Office. Pub Date Sep 68 Note- 295p. ...
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  21. BUMPED ,but please let me add

    https://books.google.com/books?id=-BlZCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT79&lpg=PT79&dq=%22U2%22+surveillance+%22ONI%22&source=bl&ots=kPmwITHYey&sig=X2NWwYIlYv6RuAWvbvl7_3gLa4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CE0Q6AEwB2oVChMIlZfSx5f1xwIVQZyICh3BeggQ#v=onepage&q=%22U2%22%20surveillance%20%22ONI%22&f=false

    see Synder above

    http://alt.assassination.jfk.narkive.com/hl3kTMh7/the-real-defector-program-dcid-4-2-1959-and-synder <<< LINK

    "To find DCID 4/2 one has to look "outside" the box, in fact one had to go YES James K. Olmstead Covered the origin of DCID 4/2 about 7 years before
    to Bogota, Columbia. PARKERS FIRST VOLUME Nice try, but no cupie doll. ,gaal

    The first consideration is that Synder's connection to the CIA in 1959, as
    a "asset" is immaterial. The nature of his Embassy employment puts him
    directly involved with "Defectors". Each US Embassy had established in
    1959 a committee known as a "local Defector Committee". This local
    committee was composed of the following:

    Security Officer.......note the Chief of Security was arrested outside
    train station day Oswald arrived. Administrative Officer CAS Service
    Attaches (this includes CIA/FBI/ONI/CID agents assigned cover tasks or
    jobs) Counsellor of Embassy (this links the AG's office......see LHO's
    return and RFK)

    Synder is directly involved and a great deal of his actions concerning
    Oswald's defection and return are suspect. His assignment placed him
    directly involved in this "local Defector Committee" who he "reported to
    is immaterial since all "intelligence reps" were part of this "joint"
    operation. The only information NOT shared would be individual counter
    intelligence operations in effect conducted by committee members higher
    parent organization.....unless there was a general "need to know" basis.

    The primary goal of DCID 4/2 deals with esablishing proceedures for
    defector's coming over to "our side". It would also handle incidents of
    defectors going over to the "dark side". In Oswald's case it can be
    established that his "return" would be addressed by this local Defector
    Committee. Showing his role during his 1959 actions is much harder, but
    it can be seen.

    To fully understand the actions of Synder that are suspect, one most
    evaluate the proceedures outlined in DCID 4/2. Not one published work on
    Oswald deals with DCID 4/2. No WC supporter can counter the
    considerations of this established USG program and Oswald's defection.

    Did Synder do anything criminal.......IMO no.....but his actions remain Synder didn't follow procedures of DCID 4/2 for any defector in Oswald's case
    suspect since basic considerations were "not followed" directed and Synder thus acted like Oswald wasnt a real defector ,like Oswald was a false defector.
    outlined by DCID 4/2. Cover up of actions also fall within protection Parkers objection/issue of the collection of intelligence as its (Defection) primary objective,
    considerations of National Security programs in effect between 1959 and isnt relevant in this case.
    Nice try, but no cupie doll. ,gaal
    1980."

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