DeMohrenschildt's pro-Nazi plot to kill Joseph Stalin

[Eric Carlson]

In all my reading on George DeMohrenschildt, I have not been able to validate this information on him:

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[DeMohrenschildt] claimed that he was involved in a pro-Nazi plot to kill Joseph Stalin.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdemohrenschildt.htm

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Can anyone give me the source on this one? I e-mailed John at spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk and he had this to say:

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Hi Eric,

I wrote the page several years ago and cannot remember where I got the information from. However, if you post the question on the forum, I am sure someone will know.

John

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Can anyone help? Thanks!

[Sid Walker]

In all my reading on George DeMohrenschildt, I have not been able to validate this information on him:

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[DeMohrenschildt] claimed that he was involved in a pro-Nazi plot to kill Joseph Stalin.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdemohrenschildt.htm

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Can anyone give me the source on this one? I e-mailed John at spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk and he had this to say:

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Hi Eric,

I wrote the page several years ago and cannot remember where I got the information from. However, if you post the question on the forum, I am sure someone will know.

John

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Can anyone help? Thanks!

It sounds like disinformation to me... although as always, I'd keep an open mind and look out for actual evidence.

This is an extract from David Irving's Hitler's War, FWIW.

The sheer complexity of that (Hitler's) character is evident from a comparison of

his brutality in some respects with his almost maudlin sentimentality and

stubborn adherence to military conventions that others had long abandoned.

We find him cold-bloodedly ordering a hundred hostages executed for every

German occupation soldier killed; dictating the massacre of Italian officers

who had turned their weapons against German troops in 1943; ordering

the liquidation of Red Army commissars, Allied commando troops, and

captured Allied aircrews; in 1942 he announced that the male populations

of Stalingrad and Leningrad were to be exterminated. He justified all these

orders by the expediencies of war. Yet the same Hitler indignantly exclaimed,

in the last week of his life, that Soviet tanks were flying the Nazi swastika as

a ruse during street fighting in Berlin, and he flatly forbade his Wehrmacht

to violate flag rules. He had opposed every suggestion for the use of poison

gases, as that would violate the Geneva Protocol; at that time Germany

alone had manufactured the potentially war-winning lethal nerve gases Sarin

and Tabun. In an age in which the governments of the democracies

attempted, engineered, or condoned the assassinations, successfully or otherwise,

of the inconvenient* – from General Sikorski, Admiral Darlan, Field

Marshal Rommel, and King Boris of Bulgaria to Fidel Castro, Patrice

Lumumba, and Salvador Allende – we learn that Hitler, the world’s most

unscrupulous dictator, not only never resorted to the assassination of foreign

opponents but flatly forbade his Abwehr to attempt it. In particular he

rejected Admiral Canaris’s plans to assassinate the Red Army General Staff.

[Eric Carlson]

Thanks Sid!

That quote you sent is probably accurate, but it does not rule out the possibility DeM claimed he was in a pro-Nazi plot against Stalin. Wherever that story came from, I really want to see what the original says. Whatever he claimed could give a glimse into DeM's mind. Perhaps he aspired to be an accomplice in political assassination.

Any one else have the source? You will be my hero. Thanks!!

[Len Colby]

Nice to see you hear Eric.

I'd take anything Irving said with a shaker full of salt he is an infamous Hitler apologist and isn't taken very seriously by historians. He has been known to be rather careless with the facts

That said the story reeks of BS to me and I suspect that either DeM never said it or if he did he made it up.

Len

[Sid Walker]

Nice to see you hear Eric.

I'd take anything Irving said with a shaker full of salt he is an infamous Hitler apologist and isn't taken very seriously by historians. He has been known to be rather careless with the facts

That said the story reeks of BS to me and I suspect that either DeM never said it or if he did he made it up.

Len

Nice to hear you sea, Len.

Nice also to confirm that we have agreement on some topics, if not all.

[Michael Hogan]

Any one else have the source? You will be my hero. Thanks!!

Hi Eric,

Bruce Campbell Adamson will probably be able to answer your question. The link to his email address is at the very bottom left of his website. Good luck.

http://www.ciajfk.com/demohrenschildt.html

Edited June 9, 2007 by Michael Hogan

[Stephen Miller]

Wasn't DeMohrenschildt involved in the Vlasov group or the ABN ant-communist group at one point?

[Len Colby]

I'd take anything Irving said with a shaker full of salt he is an infamous Hitler apologist and isn't taken very seriously by historians. He has been known to be rather careless with the facts

Len

Nice... to confirm that we have agreement on some topics, if not all.

Agreed!!

[Eric Carlson]

Hey Len! Yeah, I finally thought to just write to John and he let me on the board personally. Thanks for the warning on Irving, I'd never heard of him before. I want to get to the bottom of this, even if DeM was lying. It would show that DeM at least thought about political assassinations enough to fabricate stories in which he was a conspirator.

Also, I doubt John would just make this up. It had to come from somewhere. I just wrote to Bruce Adamson. If anyone knows, he will.

[Eric Carlson]

Bruce Campbell Adamson, one of the foremost researchers on De Mohrenschildt has never heard of this claim by De Mohrenschildt. That really makes it dubious in my mind. Here is Bruce's response to me:

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DeM's nephew was a Communist; Stalin's daughter corresponded with

Dimitri Von Mohrenschildt...

Never heard of it; should I check it out ?

Bruce

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Eric wrote:

Here are exerpts from the Adamson Report: (Nothing earth shattering here)

Stalin’s daughter [wrote] to

Dimitri Von Mohrenschildt in the

very year she defected to the United

States in 1967. In the Spring of the

following year Dimitri Von

Mohrenschildt, Bertram D. Wolfe

and Allen Dulles’ sister Eleanor

Lansing Dulles signed a protest

against the Communists annual

meeting. Svetlana refused to stand

up against the Communists.

On March 25, 1968 Svetlana

Alliluyeva wrote Dimitri thanking

him for material sent. Dimitri Von

Mohrenschildt, the brother of Lee

Harvey Oswald’s closest friend had

known Svetlana well enough to ask

her if she would also sign the protest.

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Recently this author uncovered

evidence that Dimitri Von

Mohrenschildt had a

son in Soviet

Russia who,

unlike Dimitri,

seems to have

believed in the

Communist

way of life. In

researching the

life of Dimitri this

author uncovered a letter dated

October 10, 1991 from Dimitri’s son

who called himself “Sharma.”

Sharma called Dimitri “Dad.”

Sharma [possible nick name] wrote

his father: “There is a lot to talk about

the happenings in Soviet Union. I am sure

that aspect you are keeping well up to date

with but one small item in the papers which

has drawn my attention is regarding socialistic

pattern of society in the light of Sri

Aurobindo. I remember having discussed

the matter with Mr. MP Pandit and he also

of the opinion that Communism per se is

not bad provided personal liberties and

spiritual aspirations of the people are not

curbed and he even went to the extent of

saying that if the Bolsheviks had allowed

the practice of religion the Soviet pattern of

Communism perhaps could have been a

best model for peace and prosperity on the

earth. May be the concept of “village of

cosmic Communism... I can almost imagine

you chuckling with that quizzical look in

your eyes.” 12