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According to tomflocco.com, investigators have discovered that John and his wife and sister-in-law were victims of foul play.

I also read that rescuers would not come out until the next morning. We were lied to when the media said the weather conditions were poor. No, they were clear.

The little airport where John kept his plane abutted the building where I worked in Fairfield, NJ. I was always afraid a plane would hit the building. This before 9/11. I have also read that George HW Bush, George W. Bush and another man inspected the plane at the airport. This I find hard to believe. Did other people recognize them? Were they so stupid as to show up in person? Was it part of a ritual?

The weekend when John Jr died, no one could locate George W. Bush. A writer on the subject suggested on Black Op Radio, a year or two ago, that W, an aviator himself, rigged John Jr's plane as a test to see how far he would go for the right-wing billionaires. Killing John Kennedy Jr was like his father, Bush Sr, killing President Kennedy. I think we are all aware of the photo that was taken of Bush Sr in front of the TSBD that day. And this is how the Bushes showed their nerve and courage. And how they became presidents.

When I think of Ted Kennedy having to identify the bodies of his nephew and family, I don't know how he did it. How can he keep quiet about this? Someone is killing that generation of Kennedys left and right. Was the identification of swollen, still recognizable, dark bodies penance for Mary Jo Kopechne drowning in his car? My humble opinion is he was forced off the road, off the bridge; or she was in the car alone and was forced off the bridge, not having any knowledge that water was even there. I tend to believe the latter. I don't think Ted knew about the accident till someone saw the car in the water and reported the accident and it turned out to be Ted Kennedy's car -- uh-oh.

Again, he lied and took the blame. E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, the 2 tramps in Dealey Plaza, were the perpetrators, imo. They were seen on Martha's Vineyard that weekend.

Kathy

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There already are 2 or 3 threads about the John-John crash I see the need for another. Flocco is a complete crackpot.

Also I'd like to see a photo that definately shows "Poppa Doc" Bush in front of the TSBD.

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There already are 2 or 3 threads about the John-John crash I see the need for another. Flocco is a complete crackpot.

Also I'd like to see a photo that definately shows "Poppa Doc" Bush in front of the TSBD.

In defense of my post, called "A Death in the Family," it encompasses Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick and his having to identify those bodies. Can you put yourself in his shoes?

In my opinion, the powers that be killed his 2 extraordinary brothers, his nephew -- the assassinated President's son -- and framed him with a crime that kept him from the Presidency. A whole dynasty destroyed and Ted has to deal with this knowledge and must eschew any conspiracy theories. I don't know how he takes it.

You can believe Tom Flocco is a crackpot, that's your right, but I disagree. Also I tried using the Search engine on this Forum but I kept getting an error message. Finally, the search function brought me to my own post today. Maybe this is something Andy can help me with or maybe it doesn't function right for everyone. So there go your 2 or 3 threads. I'm sure John Jr's death was discussed on this forum, but right now I have no access to it. And it's not the first time.

Kathy

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Flocco not a crackpot are you serious? Some of his gems:

BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED!

A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

[…]

…the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also war in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago. "

http://tomflocco.com/fs/BushCheneyIndicted.htm

Florida Rep. Katherine Harris Dead in Plane Crash

WASHINGTON, July 7, 2003 (TomFlocco.com) -- According to a source who refused to be named in this story, Florida Congresswoman Katherine Harris (R-FL) died this morning in a light plane crash in foggy conditions near Toronto�s island airport around 10:00 AM.

[…]

…the source also said that Governor Jeb Bush was reportedly at the accident scene shortly after the crash.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030714115331/...florida_rep.htm

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olsen arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Austria--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olsen, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-Austrian border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the agents.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=78990

Let’s look at a few problems with the story:

1) Poland and Austria are several hundred miles apart the don’t share a border, you’d think “American intelligence agents” working in Austria would now that. He latter changed the story to “German-Austrian border”.

2) The Italian Lira went out of circulation at the end of 2001 when the Euro was adopted. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/...lead/index.html

In any case would someone be bringing fake Lira to or from Germany? (Let alone Poland)

3) The currency is spelled with an “i”, ‘lyra’ is something else

4) I’ve seen no indication the every was anything known as “interbank Italian Lira”.

5) “Millions in Italian Lira” was not a lot of money even if it were real “€ =1936.27₤”

6) There are no “e’s” in Barbara Olson’s name

7) Almost 2 years later no one else has picked up on the story.

However I do believe it’s possible someone named Barabara Olsen was arrested on one of Austia’s borders with another country with ‘millions in fake antique Italian lyres’

lyra.stag.2.jpg

CIA, French intelligence kill 4, capture 5 Israelis in NY subway attack

U.S. media and NY officials called the incident a "significant, specific threat"

by Tom Flocco

New York City -- October 6, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- Earlier this evening intelligence members of the American-French Alliance stopped an attempt by Israeli Mossad operatives to blow up the New York City subway, according to national security and U.S. intelligence expert Thomas Heneghan.

The federal whistleblower said four Israelis were killed in the altercation and five more were captured just minutes after virtually all U.S. cable news channels, network TV outlets and New York Mayor Richard Bloomberg were reporting their own version of the incident, saying that New York City was "facing a significant, specific threat" in the city's subway.

http://tomflocco.com/fs/CiaFrenchIntell.htm

Problems with story:

1) Are we to believe there was a shootout on a subway in the “media capital” of the world around rush hour (“Earlier this evening”) in which 4 were killed and 5 arrested but no one but Flocco picked up on it?

2) There is no evidence Flocco favorite intelligence agency “the American-French Alliance” exists, find me a reference to it that doesn’t come from him or one of his sidekicks like Stew Webb

3) Amazing that the AFA agents were able to take down 9 of their Mossad counter parts with no reported casualties.

Flocco also indicated that Hunter S. Thompson committed suicide due to his ties to the “White House child sex ring” he and Larry King made a “child murder-sex film” http://tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm

I find reading Flocco far more entertaining than the Weekly World News!

His ridiculously stupid story that Bush Sr. and Jr. and an elderly Mossad agent personally sabotaged the plane and that the Clintons were in on it too was debunked here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4974

The crash was also discussed here

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8306

I’ve never had problems with th search engine that lasted more than a few seconds.

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Flocco not a crackpot are you serious? Some of his gems:

BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED!

A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

[…]

…the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also war in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago. "

http://tomflocco.com/fs/BushCheneyIndicted.htm

Florida Rep. Katherine Harris Dead in Plane Crash

WASHINGTON, July 7, 2003 (TomFlocco.com) -- According to a source who refused to be named in this story, Florida Congresswoman Katherine Harris (R-FL) died this morning in a light plane crash in foggy conditions near Toronto�s island airport around 10:00 AM.

[…]

…the source also said that Governor Jeb Bush was reportedly at the accident scene shortly after the crash.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030714115331/...florida_rep.htm

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olsen arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Austria--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olsen, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-Austrian border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the agents.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=78990

Let’s look at a few problems with the story:

1) Poland and Austria are several hundred miles apart the don’t share a border, you’d think “American intelligence agents” working in Austria would now that. He latter changed the story to “German-Austrian border”.

2) The Italian Lira went out of circulation at the end of 2001 when the Euro was adopted. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/...lead/index.html

In any case would someone be bringing fake Lira to or from Germany? (Let alone Poland)

3) The currency is spelled with an “i”, ‘lyra’ is something else

4) I’ve seen no indication the every was anything known as “interbank Italian Lira”.

5) “Millions in Italian Lira” was not a lot of money even if it were real “€ =1936.27₤”

6) There are no “e’s” in Barbara Olson’s name

7) Almost 2 years later no one else has picked up on the story.

However I do believe it’s possible someone named Barabara Olsen was arrested on one of Austia’s borders with another country with ‘millions in fake antique Italian lyres’

lyra.stag.2.jpg

CIA, French intelligence kill 4, capture 5 Israelis in NY subway attack

U.S. media and NY officials called the incident a "significant, specific threat"

by Tom Flocco

New York City -- October 6, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- Earlier this evening intelligence members of the American-French Alliance stopped an attempt by Israeli Mossad operatives to blow up the New York City subway, according to national security and U.S. intelligence expert Thomas Heneghan.

The federal whistleblower said four Israelis were killed in the altercation and five more were captured just minutes after virtually all U.S. cable news channels, network TV outlets and New York Mayor Richard Bloomberg were reporting their own version of the incident, saying that New York City was "facing a significant, specific threat" in the city's subway.

http://tomflocco.com/fs/CiaFrenchIntell.htm

Problems with story:

1) Are we to believe there was a shootout on a subway in the “media capital” of the world around rush hour (“Earlier this evening”) in which 4 were killed and 5 arrested but no one but Flocco picked up on it?

2) There is no evidence Flocco favorite intelligence agency “the American-French Alliance” exists, find me a reference to it that doesn’t come from him or one of his sidekicks like Stew Webb

3) Amazing that the AFA agents were able to take down 9 of their Mossad counter parts with no reported casualties.

Flocco also indicated that Hunter S. Thompson committed suicide due to his ties to the “White House child sex ring” he and Larry King made a “child murder-sex film” http://tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm

I find reading Flocco far more entertaining than the Weekly World News!

His ridiculously stupid story that Bush Sr. and Jr. and an elderly Mossad agent personally sabotaged the plane and that the Clintons were in on it too was debunked here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4974

The crash was also discussed here

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8306

I’ve never had problems with th search engine that lasted more than a few seconds.

The search engine didn't work for me and it's not the first time. I still feel Tom Flocco is publishing the truth about John Kennedy Jr being murdered. There are many "conspiracies" that are odd. Like Chappaquiddick, 9/11, Flight 800 TWA, UFOs, Marilyn Monroe murdered, etc. I need someone to weigh in on this, whether Flocco is "tabloid" or not. BTW, I did not find Flocco on my own; someone very knowledgeable introduced me to the site, telling me Barbara Olson was found alive. I took it that Flocco was a reputable journalist. I guess I was "hoaxed" into believing this. And this same person also believed in Alex Jones.

I would like Terry Mauro to tell me if Tom Flocco is "tabloid journalism." How do you know who and what to believe?

Kathy

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There already are 2 or 3 threads about the John-John crash I see the need for another. Flocco is a complete crackpot.

Also I'd like to see a photo that definately shows "Poppa Doc" Bush in front of the TSBD.

Len, old bean, there is a photograph taken outside the TSBD, about an hour after the Assassination that some claim shows Daddy(in his see eye ay days) chatting to some of Dallas's finest Law enforcement officers. Is it him? couldn't say,but it sure does have a passing resemblence. I will try to post it for your perusal. Steve.

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“The search engine didn't work for me and it's not the first time.”

I’ve never had serious problems that persisted more than a few seconds try using the search engine page (click “More Search Options”).

“I still feel Tom Flocco is publishing the truth about John Kennedy Jr being murdered.”

Because he’s telling what you already believe, if you want to debate the details try one of the existing threads.

“I need someone to weigh in on this, whether Flocco is "tabloid" or not.”

Don’t you trust your own instincts? Aren’t the stories I highlighted enough? Much as I would like Bush and Co. and Blair to have been indicted, dislike Harris and find the idea of King and Thompson working together on a porn film (though not a child snuff film) amusing , I can’t understand how can anyone take him seriously.

“I took it that Flocco was a reputable journalist. I guess I was "hoaxed" into believing this.”

You certainly were

“And this same person also believed in Alex Jones.”

What does that go to tell you? But compared to Flocco Jones is reputable.

”I would like Terry Mauro to tell me if Tom Flocco is "tabloid journalism." How do you know who and what to believe?”

I can’t answer for Terry but it seems like a false dilemma to me, I judge sources by:

1 – Their track record

2- The reasonableness of their claims, are there any obvious discrepancies does the story violate common sense?

3- Can the story be independently collaborated?

4 – Do they have any relevant expertise?

STEVE –

Your recollection conforms to mine, that there are some blurry images of a man would vaguely looks like Poppa Bush by the TSBD.

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“The search engine didn't work for me and it's not the first time.”

I’ve never had serious problems that persisted more than a few seconds try using the search engine page (click “More Search Options”).

“I still feel Tom Flocco is publishing the truth about John Kennedy Jr being murdered.”

Because he’s telling what you already believe, if you want to debate the details try one of the existing threads.

“I need someone to weigh in on this, whether Flocco is "tabloid" or not.”

Don’t you trust your own instincts? Aren’t the stories I highlighted enough? Much as I would like Bush and Co. and Blair to have been indicted, dislike Harris and find the idea of King and Thompson working together on a porn film (though not a child snuff film) amusing , I can’t understand how can anyone take him seriously.

“I took it that Flocco was a reputable journalist. I guess I was "hoaxed" into believing this.”

You certainly were

“And this same person also believed in Alex Jones.”

What does that go to tell you? But compared to Flocco Jones is reputable.

”I would like Terry Mauro to tell me if Tom Flocco is "tabloid journalism." How do you know who and what to believe?”

I can’t answer for Terry but it seems like a false dilemma to me, I judge sources by:

1 – Their track record

2- The reasonableness of their claims, are there any obvious discrepancies does the story violate common sense?

3- Can the story be independently collaborated?

4 – Do they have any relevant expertise?

STEVE –

Your recollection conforms to mine, that there are some blurry images of a man would vaguely looks like Poppa Bush by the TSBD.

I still believe that's George HW Bush in front of the TSBD. Maybe in the future some photo technology will be developed where we can find out if it's him or not.

Kathy

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Flocco not a crackpot are you serious? Some of his gems:

BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED!

A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

[…]

…the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also war in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago. "

http://tomflocco.com/fs/BushCheneyIndicted.htm

Florida Rep. Katherine Harris Dead in Plane Crash

WASHINGTON, July 7, 2003 (TomFlocco.com) -- According to a source who refused to be named in this story, Florida Congresswoman Katherine Harris (R-FL) died this morning in a light plane crash in foggy conditions near Toronto�s island airport around 10:00 AM.

[…]

…the source also said that Governor Jeb Bush was reportedly at the accident scene shortly after the crash.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030714115331/...florida_rep.htm

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olsen arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Austria--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olsen, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-Austrian border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the agents.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=78990

Let’s look at a few problems with the story:

1) Poland and Austria are several hundred miles apart the don’t share a border, you’d think “American intelligence agents” working in Austria would now that. He latter changed the story to “German-Austrian border”.

2) The Italian Lira went out of circulation at the end of 2001 when the Euro was adopted. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/...lead/index.html

In any case would someone be bringing fake Lira to or from Germany? (Let alone Poland)

3) The currency is spelled with an “i”, ‘lyra’ is something else

4) I’ve seen no indication the every was anything known as “interbank Italian Lira”.

5) “Millions in Italian Lira” was not a lot of money even if it were real “€ =1936.27₤”

6) There are no “e’s” in Barbara Olson’s name

7) Almost 2 years later no one else has picked up on the story.

However I do believe it’s possible someone named Barabara Olsen was arrested on one of Austia’s borders with another country with ‘millions in fake antique Italian lyres’

lyra.stag.2.jpg

CIA, French intelligence kill 4, capture 5 Israelis in NY subway attack

U.S. media and NY officials called the incident a "significant, specific threat"

by Tom Flocco

New York City -- October 6, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- Earlier this evening intelligence members of the American-French Alliance stopped an attempt by Israeli Mossad operatives to blow up the New York City subway, according to national security and U.S. intelligence expert Thomas Heneghan.

The federal whistleblower said four Israelis were killed in the altercation and five more were captured just minutes after virtually all U.S. cable news channels, network TV outlets and New York Mayor Richard Bloomberg were reporting their own version of the incident, saying that New York City was "facing a significant, specific threat" in the city's subway.

http://tomflocco.com/fs/CiaFrenchIntell.htm

Problems with story:

1) Are we to believe there was a shootout on a subway in the “media capital” of the world around rush hour (“Earlier this evening”) in which 4 were killed and 5 arrested but no one but Flocco picked up on it?

2) There is no evidence Flocco favorite intelligence agency “the American-French Alliance” exists, find me a reference to it that doesn’t come from him or one of his sidekicks like Stew Webb

3) Amazing that the AFA agents were able to take down 9 of their Mossad counter parts with no reported casualties.

Flocco also indicated that Hunter S. Thompson committed suicide due to his ties to the “White House child sex ring” he and Larry King made a “child murder-sex film” http://tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm

I find reading Flocco far more entertaining than the Weekly World News!

His ridiculously stupid story that Bush Sr. and Jr. and an elderly Mossad agent personally sabotaged the plane and that the Clintons were in on it too was debunked here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4974

The crash was also discussed here

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8306

I’ve never had problems with th search engine that lasted more than a few seconds.

The search engine didn't work for me and it's not the first time. I still feel Tom Flocco is publishing the truth about John Kennedy Jr being murdered. There are many "conspiracies" that are odd. Like Chappaquiddick, 9/11, Flight 800 TWA, UFOs, Marilyn Monroe murdered, etc. I need someone to weigh in on this, whether Flocco is "tabloid" or not. BTW, I did not find Flocco on my own; someone very knowledgeable introduced me to the site, telling me Barbara Olson was found alive. I took it that Flocco was a reputable journalist. I guess I was "hoaxed" into believing this. And this same person also believed in Alex Jones.

I would like Terry Mauro to tell me if Tom Flocco is "tabloid journalism." How do you know who and what to believe?

Kathy

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"I would like Terry Mauro to tell me if Tom Flocco is "tabloid journalism." How do you know who and what to believe?"

Kath, as I stated in my e-mail reply to you last night. I've never even heard of Tom Flocco. You see, I don't have cable, nor watch commercial TV [stations 2 through 13], so my only forms of visual media information consist of viewing the three PBS stations available to me, here in Southern California. And, even then my time is limited due to my work schedule. I barely have time to go on-line, let alone to the forums during the week. Answering and clearing out my e-mails is about all I have time for, Monday through Friday.

Sorry, I can't offer an opinion. But, surely you must have surmised by now, what I consider to be tabloid journalism? Though, certain formats of "talk radio" fall into that category very easily, for me. Rush Limbaugh, for one. That female, Dr. Laura is another one. But, I'm not one for radio these days, either. So, I guess I can't be of much help to you on that count.

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God! What's up with these duplicate postings? Deleted by T. Mauro on 7-14-07 12:30 PDT

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I've looked into the JFK, Jr. death a bit myself. There a few main reasons why "conspiracy theorists" find his death suspcious. First, UPI, ABC-TV and local television stations reported that there was a final radio communication from JFK, Jr. at 9:39 p.m., in which he declared all was fine and he was preparing to land. Another researcher sent me a videotape of unedited t.v. coverage of the search for JFK, Jr.'s plane, from local station WCVB. The 9:39 p.m. communication is mentioned several times, and a Coast Guard representative, Todd Burgun, is even interviewed on air, specifically about this communication. So, clearly, it happened. Burgun did not answer questions in an interview about an imaginary communicaton. But, after the plane was found, this communication officially went down the memory hole, and no further mention was made of it. When researchers later obtained videotape of local news coverage of the search, they found that all mention of the 9:39 communication had been edited out. There is no innocent explanation for that, imho. The importance of this communication can not be overstated; the official story is that JFK, Jr.'s plane went into a death spiral at exactly 9:39 p.m. Obviously, that could not be the case if he was talking on the radio, reporting all was well, at that exact moment. There is also the question of the reporter from the local Hyannisport Gazette paper, who reported seeing an explosion in the air, in that exact area, at that exact time. The reporter was never identified, and researchers who attempted to track him down later were rebuffed by the paper. They were first told that the reporter had been mistaken, and then that the reporter no longer worked for the paper, having "gone back to college."

I contacted WCVB-TV reporter Steve Sbraccia in July of 2006, and in an email response, he stated that the Hyannisport Gazette reporter was definitely real, and also declared, without any prompting from me, that something about JFK, Jr.'s death didn't seem "right" to him. I have since attempted to followup with him, but he has not answered any of those emails.

As for Tom Flocco, he represents what we get on the web, as far as "conspiracy" stories go. Because mainstream reporters won't investigate these issues, it's left for the Tom Floccos and Alex Jones's of the world to do that. Regardless of their level of credibility, they're all we have on these kinds of stories.

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Don I replied to the JFK Jr. aspects of your post here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=110249

As for Tom Flocco, he represents what we get on the web, as far as "conspiracy" stories go. Because mainstream reporters won't investigate these issues, it's left for the Tom Floccos and Alex Jones's of the world to do that. Regardless of their level of credibility, they're all we have on these kinds of stories.

Since Flocco’s “reporting” is so consistently dead wrong and/or obviously nonsensical I suspect that either:

1) He is completely nuts

2) His and related sites are an elaborate gag.

3) He is intentionally trying to make C. theories and C. theorists look foolish in order to discredit them.

4) Some combination of the above is true.

I any case it’s telling he seems to have a following. As to Jones’s cult following that’s an entirely more complicated issue.

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Another disturbing one-and-out report, aired on a major cable news network on the first morning of the disappearance, indicated that an emergency beacon of the sort with which JFK JR's airplane was equipped had been detected in western Long Island Sound -- in a position that turned out to be over 100 miles from where we would learn the crash took place.

During the earliest, critical moments of the search and rescue operation, then, air and sea assets were directed to the beacon's putative location. But soon the signal disappeared, and valuable resources and time were wasted as a result.

Even the most conservative analysts of the death of JFK JR and family -- especially those who enjoy reasonable familiarity with the manner of his father's passing -- must concede that a diversion designed to misdirect rescue efforts likely would have been part of a John-John murder conspiracy.

Covering bets, as they say.

What my own research tells me about the false beacon story is that such events are not common.

Charles

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Another disturbing one-and-out report, aired on a major cable news network on the first morning of the disappearance, indicated that an emergency beacon of the sort with which JFK JR's airplane was equipped had been detected in western Long Island Sound -- in a position that turned out to be over 100 miles from where we would learn the crash took place.

During the earliest, critical moments of the search and rescue operation, then, air and sea assets were directed to the beacon's putative location. But soon the signal disappeared, and valuable resources and time were wasted as a result.

Even the most conservative analysts of the death of JFK JR and family -- especially those who enjoy reasonable familiarity with the manner of his father's passing -- must concede that a diversion designed to misdirect rescue efforts likely would have been part of a John-John murder conspiracy.

Covering bets, as they say.

What my own research tells me about the false beacon story is that such events are not common.

Charles

Charles, why would "they" need a false beacon? If there was a barametric bomb onboard or as Tom Flocco says, there was a flight instructor onboard, which we weren't told, who might have shut off the engine by turning a handle behind the pilot's seat -- a Manchurian Candidate -- either way this would have killed the passengers. No matter how fast they got there, everyone would be dead, so why a false beacon?

Kathy

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Let's be prudently parsimonious as we contemplate possible lines of attack against JFK JR.

In the minds of conspirators, a barametric device -- for the sake of argument -- may have been viewed as vulnerable to malfunction -- perhaps to the degree that one or more occupants might have survived the crash if the explosive was triggered at low altitude or did less damage than anticipated.

Conspirators would have covered their bet by delaying the arrival of S and R assets as long as possible.

Survival time in those waters was measured in not many hours.

To my thinking, the only roles that particle beams and Manchurian candidates play are to keep researchers off track and further taint us with the "nutcase" slander.

At least as far as the investigation into the unsolved murder of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Jr. is concerned.

Charles

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