David G. Healy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Defend the Warren Commission Report Findings? The 45 questions Question #23 Back by popular demand - the 45 Questions that terrify those who try to defend the Warren Commission Report. In the past, there have been only two semi-serious attempts to answer them, one by John McAdams, and one by 'Bud' (the xxxxx listed below) - Both responses were basically denials of the facts in most of the 'answers'. *reposted with authors permission -- author: Ben Holmes...* But first, an important note: ********************************************************************** Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum (alt.conspiracy.jfk) who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks. These trolls include (but are not limited to): **22 trolls who post regularly to alt.conspiracy.jfk** names removed -dgh Please beware when seeing their responses, and note that they will simply deny the facts I mention, demand citations that I've provided before, or simply run with insults. These trolls are only good material for the kill files. source: alt.conspiracy.jfk ********************************************************************** I've decided to repost this one - since no-one has even tried to answer it. If those who believe the Warren Commission Report want to defend it - they *MUST* answer these questions... running away from them, or claiming that they are "dead on arrival" or have "already been answered" simply won't do the trick. If there are any honest LNT'ers out there - I won't hold you to trying to justify McAdams lies about this - just answer the first question below. 23. "I spoke to Gus Rose concerning the camera. He told me that he did find the small camera. He told me that 'the FBI came back three times trying to convince me and Captain Fritz that what I had found was a light meter. Captain Fritz told them on the third visit not to come to him again about the camera.' Fritz stood behind his man and today is vindicated through Rusty's photograph." - First Day Evidence, pg 212 "The agent-in-charge of the Dallas FBI office during the assassination investigation was J. Gordon Shanklin. He claimed that he could not recall the camera incident. However, an inventory list was made in his Dallas FBI office on November 26th, 1963, of the evidence obtained from the Dallas police. It listed "one Minox camera" under item number 375, which was witnessed by De Brueys himself as well as Dallas Police Captain J. M. English of the Property Bureau. However, upon arrival in Washington, a SECOND inventory list was made by De Brueys and another agent, Vince Drain. Item number 375 at that point became a 'Minox light meter.' Still included among the evidence were two rolls of 'apparently exposed' and two rolls of undeveloped Minox film, supporting the fact that there must have been a camera to take the photographs." First Day Evidence, pg 214 Why did the FBI seem so insistent on erasing the record of a Minox camera owned by LHO? Why did he own one? This was not an inexpensive camera... and it seems cruel to mention that these were favored by intelligence operatives because of their small size. LNT'ers will almost certainly fall back on "simple denial" for this question, should they be brave enough to attempt it. They may attempt to argue that the Minox camera found in November actually belonged to Michael Paine, who at the behest of the FBI went into his garage in Jan '64 and "found" a Minox camera - although this raw anachronism won't affect LNT'ers... Any LNT'er honest enough to admit that Oswald owned a Minox, and that the FBI went to extraordinary efforts to hide that fact? eof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti Hynonen Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 David G. Healy Posted Yesterday, 04:21 PM Defend the Warren Commission Report Findings? The 45 questions Question #23 Back by popular demand - the 45 Questions that terrify those who try to defend the Warren Commission Report. In the past, there have been only two semi-serious attempts to answer them, one by John McAdams, and one by 'Bud' (the xxxxx listed below) - Both responses were basically denials of the facts in most of the 'answers'. *reposted with authors permission -- author: Ben Holmes...* But first, an important note: ********************************************************************** Important Note for Lurkers - there are many trolls on this forum (alt.conspiracy.jfk) who's only purpose is to obstruct debate, deny the evidence, and attempt to change message threads from discussing the evidence, to personal insults and attacks. These trolls include (but are not limited to): **22 trolls who post regularly to alt.conspiracy.jfk** names removed -dgh Please beware when seeing their responses, and note that they will simply deny the facts I mention, demand citations that I've provided before, or simply run with insults. These trolls are only good material for the kill files. source: alt.conspiracy.jfk ********************************************************************** I've decided to repost this one - since no-one has even tried to answer it. If those who believe the Warren Commission Report want to defend it - they *MUST* answer these questions... running away from them, or claiming that they are "dead on arrival" or have "already been answered" simply won't do the trick. If there are any honest LNT'ers out there - I won't hold you to trying to justify McAdams lies about this - just answer the first question below. 23. "I spoke to Gus Rose concerning the camera. He told me that he did find the small camera. He told me that 'the FBI came back three times trying to convince me and Captain Fritz that what I had found was a light meter. Captain Fritz told them on the third visit not to come to him again about the camera.' Fritz stood behind his man and today is vindicated through Rusty's photograph." - First Day Evidence, pg 212 "The agent-in-charge of the Dallas FBI office during the assassination investigation was J. Gordon Shanklin. He claimed that he could not recall the camera incident. However, an inventory list was made in his Dallas FBI office on November 26th, 1963, of the evidence obtained from the Dallas police. It listed "one Minox camera" under item number 375, which was witnessed by De Brueys himself as well as Dallas Police Captain J. M. English of the Property Bureau. However, upon arrival in Washington, a SECOND inventory list was made by De Brueys and another agent, Vince Drain. Item number 375 at that point became a 'Minox light meter.' Still included among the evidence were two rolls of 'apparently exposed' and two rolls of undeveloped Minox film, supporting the fact that there must have been a camera to take the photographs." First Day Evidence, pg 214 Why did the FBI seem so insistent on erasing the record of a Minox camera owned by LHO? Why did he own one? This was not an inexpensive camera... and it seems cruel to mention that these were favored by intelligence operatives because of their small size. LNT'ers will almost certainly fall back on "simple denial" for this question, should they be brave enough to attempt it. They may attempt to argue that the Minox camera found in November actually belonged to Michael Paine, who at the behest of the FBI went into his garage in Jan '64 and "found" a Minox camera - although this raw anachronism won't affect LNT'ers... Any LNT'er honest enough to admit that Oswald owned a Minox, and that the FBI went to extraordinary efforts to hide that fact? eof Review the complete topic (launches new window) David, The fact that LHO had in his possessions a Minox camera and the fact that the official record has later been altered to indicate he did NOT have one in his possession, should indicate to all researchers that this is indeed a key point in understanding who LHO was. Further, the official investigation must have had a pre-determined outcome, which did not include LHO's Minox camera. This ranks right up there with the Odio incident and other key evidence disregarded by the Warren commission, all of which would have pointed the investigation towards a conspiracy - which of course was not part of the pre-determined single assassin conlcusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 David,The fact that LHO had in his possessions a Minox camera and the fact that the official record has later been altered to indicate he did NOT have one in his possession, should indicate to all researchers that this is indeed a key point in understanding who LHO was. Further, the official investigation must have had a pre-determined outcome, which did not include LHO's Minox camera. This ranks right up there with the Odio incident and other key evidence disregarded by the Warren commission, all of which would have pointed the investigation towards a conspiracy - which of course was not part of the pre-determined single assassin conlcusion. indeed it does, Antti..... thanks for the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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