Thomas H. Purvis Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm Mr. ALTGENS - Well, it sounded like it was coming up from behind the car from my position--I mean the first shot, and being fireworks--who counts fireworks explosions? I wasn't keeping track of the number of pops that took place, but I could vouch for No. 1, and I can vouch for the last shot, but I cannot tell you how many shots were in between. There was not another shot fired after the President was struck in the head. That was the last shot--that much I will say with a great degree of certainty. Mr. LIEBELER - What makes you so certain of that, Mr. Altgens? Mr. ALTGENS - Because, having heard these shots and then having seen the damage that was done on this shot to the President's head, I was aware at that time that shooting was taking place and there was not a shot--I looked--I looked because I knew the shot had to come from either over here, if it were close range, or had to come from a high-powered rifle. Mr. ALTGENS - Because I didn't see who fired it. After the Presidential car moved a little past me, I took another picture--now, just let me back up here--I was prepared to make a picture at the very instant the President was shot. I had refocused to 15 feet because I wanted a good closeup of the President and Mrs. Kennedy, and that's why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened and that's as far as I got with my camera. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z347.jpg http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shaneyf2.htm Mr. SPECTER. And how was the ending point of that frame sequence, being No. 334, fixed? Mr. SHANEYFELT. It was fixed as several frames past the shot that hit the President in the head. Frame 313 is the frame showing the shot to the President's head, and it ends at 334. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z334.jpg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir; and if I had a picture I could probably show you exactly where I was standing. I did show it to Agent Switzer, if that would be of any help to you. Mr. LIEBELER - Yes; I would like to locate that spot. I show you Exhibit No. 354, which is an aerial view of the area that we have been discussing. Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car. Mr. LIEBELER - You have indicated a spot along the side of Elm Street which I have marked with a No. 3; is that correct? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - Is that approximately where you were standing? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - Now, when you took the picture of the caravan turning from Main Street to the right on Houston Street, you then ran across this Dealey Plaza? Mr. ALTGENS - Down this way; yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - Along the lawn part. Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - To the point marked No. 3 on Commission Exhibit No. 354? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol16_0487a.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone NOT know how to play the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htmMr. ALTGENS - Well, it sounded like it was coming up from behind the car from my position--I mean the first shot, and being fireworks--who counts fireworks explosions? I wasn't keeping track of the number of pops that took place, but I could vouch for No. 1, and I can vouch for the last shot, but I cannot tell you how many shots were in between. There was not another shot fired after the President was struck in the head. That was the last shot--that much I will say with a great degree of certainty. Mr. LIEBELER - What makes you so certain of that, Mr. Altgens? Mr. ALTGENS - Because, having heard these shots and then having seen the damage that was done on this shot to the President's head, I was aware at that time that shooting was taking place and there was not a shot--I looked--I looked because I knew the shot had to come from either over here, if it were close range, or had to come from a high-powered rifle. Mr. ALTGENS - Because I didn't see who fired it. After the Presidential car moved a little past me, I took another picture--now, just let me back up here--I was prepared to make a picture at the very instant the President was shot. I had refocused to 15 feet because I wanted a good closeup of the President and Mrs. Kennedy, and that's why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened and that's as far as I got with my camera. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z347.jpg http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shaneyf2.htm Mr. SPECTER. And how was the ending point of that frame sequence, being No. 334, fixed? Mr. SHANEYFELT. It was fixed as several frames past the shot that hit the President in the head. Frame 313 is the frame showing the shot to the President's head, and it ends at 334. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z334.jpg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir; and if I had a picture I could probably show you exactly where I was standing. I did show it to Agent Switzer, if that would be of any help to you. Mr. LIEBELER - Yes; I would like to locate that spot. I show you Exhibit No. 354, which is an aerial view of the area that we have been discussing. Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car. Mr. LIEBELER - You have indicated a spot along the side of Elm Street which I have marked with a No. 3; is that correct? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - Is that approximately where you were standing? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - Now, when you took the picture of the caravan turning from Main Street to the right on Houston Street, you then ran across this Dealey Plaza? Mr. ALTGENS - Down this way; yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - Along the lawn part. Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - To the point marked No. 3 on Commission Exhibit No. 354? Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir. http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol16_0487a.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone NOT know how to play the game? http://www.jfk.org/Oral_Histories/Oral_His…st.asp?Letter=s Malcolm Summers Well, then the car kept coming, and then the second shot rang out. And then the third was just about where I was at, rang out Yep! That certainly sounds about correct. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z350.jpg http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hudson.htm Mr. HUDSON - Yes; so right along about even with these steps, pretty close to even with this here, the last shot was fired - somewhere right along in there. As well as does that! ------------------------------------------------------------ From Nellie Connally’s book and her handwritten notes which were written 10 days after the assassination. “I reached there and pulled him to me & tried to get us both down in the car. Then came a third shot. With John in my arms & still trying to stay down I did not see the third shot hit. But I felt something falling all over me.” ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z312.jpg Nope! Not down here. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z347.jpg ----------------------------------------------- http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm Mr. ALTGENS - Yes. What made me almost certain that the shot came from behind was because at the time I was looking at the President, just as he was struck, it caused him to move a bit forward. He seemed as if at the time----well, he was in a position-- sort of immobile. He wasn't upright. He was at an angle but when it hit him, it seemed to have just lodged--it seemed as if he were hung up on a seat button or something like that. It knocked him just enough forward that he came right on down. There was flesh particles that flew out of the side of his head in my direction from where I was standing, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And therein lies the one and only, true "MAGIC BULLET"! "Politicians, not unlike Magicians, can make things disappear!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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