Pat Speer Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 In Connie Kritzberg's Secrets from the Sixth Floor Window, pp. 39-46, newsman Tom Alyea, who filmed the DPD search of the sixth floor, writes: "The barricade on the sixth floor ran parallel to the windows, extending in an "L" shape that ended against the front wall between the first and second twin windows. The height of the stack of boxes was a minimum of 5 ft. I looked over the barricade and saw three shell casings laying on the floor in front of the second window in the two window casement. They were scattered in an area that could be covered by a bushel basket. They were located about half way between the inside of the barricade. I set my lens focus at the estimated distance from the camera to the floor and held the camera over the top of the barricade and filmed them before anybody went into the enclosure. I could not position my eye to the camera's view finder to get the shot. After filming the casings with my wide angle lens, from a height of 5 ft., I asked Captain Fritz, who was standing at my side, if I could go behind the barricade and get a close-up shot of the casings. He told me that it would be better if I got my shots from outside the barricade. He then rounded the pile of boxes and entered the enclosure. This was the first time anybody walked between the barricade and the windows. Fritz then walked to the casings, picked them up and held them in his hand over the top of the boxes for me to get a close-up shot of the evidence. I filmed about eight seconds of a close-up shot of the shell casings in Captain Fritz's hand. I stopped filming, and thanked him. I do not recall if he placed them in his pocket or returned them back to the floor, because I was preoccupied with recording other views of the crime scene. I have been asked many times if I thought it was peculiar that the Captain of Homicide picked up evidence with his hands. Actually, that was the first thought that came to me when he did it, but I rationalized that he was the homicide expert and no prints could be taken from spent shell casings. Therefore, any photograph of shell casings taken after this, is staged and not correct. It is highly doubtful that the shell casings that appear in Dallas police photos of the crime scene are the same casings that were found originally. The originals by this time were probably in a plastic bag at police headquarters. Why? Probably this was a missing link in the report the police department had to send to the FBI and they had to stage it and the barricade box placement to complete their report and photo records." Alyea was thus asserting that he filmed Fritz pick up the bullets. And yet, if one watches the version of the Alyea film on Groden's Assassination films DVD, one will see that no such footage exists. But this isn't the full film. Yesterday I was watching The Jim Garrison Tapes video, and saw footage of Lieutenant Day dusting the intact bullet removed from the Carcano. This is clearly Alyea footage, as Alyea was the only cameraman on the sixth floor. But it isn't in the footage on Groden's DVD. So...does anyone know if a "master" copy of Alyea's footage exists? I suspect that if one were to acquire all the footage, and put it in chronological order, it would prove quite interesting.
Guest Gary Loughran Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 In Connie Kritzberg's Secrets from the Sixth Floor Window, pp. 39-46, newsman Tom Alyea, who filmed the DPD search of the sixth floor, writes:"The barricade on the sixth floor ran parallel to the windows, extending in an "L" shape that ended against the front wall between the first and second twin windows. The height of the stack of boxes was a minimum of 5 ft. I looked over the barricade and saw three shell casings laying on the floor in front of the second window in the two window casement. They were scattered in an area that could be covered by a bushel basket. They were located about half way between the inside of the barricade. I set my lens focus at the estimated distance from the camera to the floor and held the camera over the top of the barricade and filmed them before anybody went into the enclosure. I could not position my eye to the camera's view finder to get the shot. After filming the casings with my wide angle lens, from a height of 5 ft., I asked Captain Fritz, who was standing at my side, if I could go behind the barricade and get a close-up shot of the casings. He told me that it would be better if I got my shots from outside the barricade. He then rounded the pile of boxes and entered the enclosure. This was the first time anybody walked between the barricade and the windows. Fritz then walked to the casings, picked them up and held them in his hand over the top of the boxes for me to get a close-up shot of the evidence. I filmed about eight seconds of a close-up shot of the shell casings in Captain Fritz's hand. I stopped filming, and thanked him. I do not recall if he placed them in his pocket or returned them back to the floor, because I was preoccupied with recording other views of the crime scene. I have been asked many times if I thought it was peculiar that the Captain of Homicide picked up evidence with his hands. Actually, that was the first thought that came to me when he did it, but I rationalized that he was the homicide expert and no prints could be taken from spent shell casings. Therefore, any photograph of shell casings taken after this, is staged and not correct. It is highly doubtful that the shell casings that appear in Dallas police photos of the crime scene are the same casings that were found originally. The originals by this time were probably in a plastic bag at police headquarters. Why? Probably this was a missing link in the report the police department had to send to the FBI and they had to stage it and the barricade box placement to complete their report and photo records." Alyea was thus asserting that he filmed Fritz pick up the bullets. And yet, if one watches the version of the Alyea film on Groden's Assassination films DVD, one will see that no such footage exists. But this isn't the full film. Yesterday I was watching The Jim Garrison Tapes video, and saw footage of Lieutenant Day dusting the intact bullet removed from the Carcano. This is clearly Alyea footage, as Alyea was the only cameraman on the sixth floor. But it isn't in the footage on Groden's DVD. So...does anyone know if a "master" copy of Alyea's footage exists? I suspect that if one were to acquire all the footage, and put it in chronological order, it would prove quite interesting. Hi Pat, I'm sorry to nitpick, but on a passive reading of this I see no assertion at all that Fritz was filmed picking up the bullets. Gary
Pat Speer Posted July 25, 2008 Author Posted July 25, 2008 You're right, Gary. He doesn't say he filmed him picking them up, but he says he filmed the cartridges in Fritz's hand. No such footage is known to exist. Since Alyea's footage has never, as far as I can tell, been compiled, however, there's no telling what footage does exist. Maybe there's footage of the bag found in the sniper's nest. Maybe there's footage of the casings in their original location. THE "SNIPER'S NEST": INCARNATIONS AND IMPLICATIONS by Allan Eaglesham deals with this in more detail. "When the call went out that the “sniper’s nest” had been discovered, police Captain Will Fritz and Tom Alyea were only 20 to 30 feet away (see Figure 24). Alyea followed Fritz, and described the discovery of three shell casings as follows [16]: “The casings were clustered inside the enclosure…I filmed them from the window box position but did not enter the enclosure…The lowest box in the barricade allowed me to look over and see the casings below, but I was not able to film them while looking through the viewfinder of the camera. I set my lens at five feet and held the camera over the box and got my shot…(A)ll three casings could have been covered by a small hand towel…I asked Captain Fritz if I could go behind the barricade and get a close up of the casings. He said “No,” and proceeded to enter the enclosure, gather up the casings, and hold them over the low box for me to get my close-up shot…He did not return them to the floor, but turned and walked toward the boxes at the shooting site and visually examined the placement and view down Elm Street.” It appears that, in order to assist the newsman obtain a close-up of the cartridge cases, Captain Fritz compromised the crime scene and handled vital evidence in cavalier fashion -- possibly smudging fingerprints on the cartridge cases. The approximate locations of the cartridge cases when seen by Mr. Alyea, from his memory, are shown in Figure 26 in conjunction with their official locations. Alyea has described them as “bunched” within “an area of two feet” [9]. Shadow angles are consistent with Detective Studebaker’s statement that the photograph in Figure 26 (same view as in Figure 14) was taken on the afternoon of 11/22/63. Regarding when and by whom the cartridge cases were replaced, apparently randomly, on the floor, Alyea said [12]: “I never saw the casings again after Fritz put them in his pocket. Obviously he gave them to Studebaker when Studebaker was led to the sniper’s nest, with the instructions to include them in shots of the crime scene. Fritz did not go with Studebaker, he stayed with us, watching Day dusting the rifle.” After the discovery of the “sniper’s nest,” Captain Fritz assigned two uniformed officers to guard the location, then ordered a search of the seventh floor, which yielded nothing of interest. At this point, Alyea removed the roll of film from his movie camera and dropped it to a locked-out colleague; within 20 minutes, pictures from the sixth floor were flashed around the world. However, without Alyea’s explanation of the film footage, its enormous significance went largely unrecognized; Alyea later discovered that key shots were edited out and lost [18]. He never saw the footage of the undisturbed “sniper’s nest,” of the cartridge cases on the floor, or of the cartridge cases in Fritz’s hand. Captain Fritz’s account of the discovery of the “sniper’s nest” was as follows, from his testimony to the Warren Commission [19]: Q: Then what did you do? A: We began searching the floors (of the TSBD) looking for anyone with a gun or looked suspicious, and we searched hurriedly through most of the floors. Q: Which floor did you start with? A: We started at the bottom…and it wasn’t very long until someone called me and told me they wanted me to come to the front window, the corner window, they had found some empty cartridges. Q: That was on the sixth floor. A: That is right; the sixth floor, corner window. Q: What did you do? A: I told them not to move the cartridges, not to touch anything until we could get the crime lab to take pictures just as they were lying there and I left an officer assigned there to see that that was done, and the crime lab came almost immediately, and took pictures and dusted the shells for prints. In a subsequent affidavit, Captain Fritz saw the need to repeat what surely was standard procedure and second nature to law-enforcement officers -- hardly worthy of mention -- to leave a crime scene untouched until processed by crime-laboratory detectives [20]: “When the officers called me to this window, I asked them not to move the shells nor touch them until Lt. Day of the Dallas Police Department could make pictures of the hulls showing where they fell after being ejected from the rifle.” The routine aspect of leaving the putative crime scene untouched was a recurring theme in the testimony of policemen involved in the TSBD search [21]. It is noteworthy that Captain Fritz felt it necessary also to spell out that the cartridges had been ejected from the rifle; perhaps he felt the need to scotch any rumors that Detective Studebaker had tossed them onto the floor! Sheriff’s Deputy Luke Mooney corroborated Tom Alyea’s account of Fritz picking up the cartridge cases. During Mooney’s testimony for the Warren Commission, his questioner, Joseph A. Ball, posed a blatantly leading question with reference to the chain of evidence for the cartridge cases: Q: Those were empty shells? A: Yes, sir. Q: They were turned over to Captain Fritz? A: Yes, sir: he was the first officer that picked them up, as far as I know, because I stood there and watched him go over and pick them up and look at them… His choice of words -- “I stood there and watched him…” -- suggests surprise, if not shock. Although Mr. Ball seemed to expect Deputy Mooney to say that someone other than Fritz had picked up the empty shells, the news that Fritz himself had gone over and picked them up elicited no response. In the questioning of other police officers, much emphasis was given to who collected the cartridge cases and the chain of evidence, yet the issue of Captain Fritz boldly stepping into the crime scene and handling evidence was unworthy of follow-up questions. Instead: Q: Is this the position of the cartridges as shown in 510 (Figure 27), as you saw them? A: Yes, sir. That is just the way they were lying, to the best of my knowledge. I do know there was -- one was further away, and these two were relatively close together -- on this particular area. But these cartridges -- this one and this one looks like they are further apart than they actually was [sic]. Q: Which ones? A: This one and this one. Q: Now, two cartridges were close together, is that right? A: The one cartridge here, by the wall facing, is right. And this one and this one, they were further away from this one. Q: Well-- A: But as to being positive of the exact distance-- " After this tortuous exchange, which demonstrated that Deputy Mooney did not recognize the positions of the cartridges as seen in CE 510, Mr. Ball came up with the non-sequitur of the year: Q: You think that the cartridges are in the same position as when you saw them in this picture 510? And the witness almost succumbed to this coercion: A: As far as my knowledge, they are; pretty close to right…Just from my memory, it seems that this cartridge ought to have been over this way a little further. Q: You mean “B” cartridge (see Figure 27) should have been closer to “C?” A: Closer to the “C”; yes sir. That was the end of the subject. Mr. Ball did not invite Mr. Mooney to mark on the photograph where he thought “B” should have been located. It is noteworthy that the Deputy Sheriff not only corroborated Tom Alyea’s account of Captain Fritz compromising the crime scene, but he also placed two of the three cartridges in the same general area as did Alyea. In affidavits for the Warren Commission, Lieutenant Day stated that he and Detective Richard M. Sims picked up the cartridge cases at about 1:20 PM and placed them in an envelope; after Day processed them for fingerprints, Sims took possession of them [22]. One might think that key events of that terrible day would be indelibly impressed in the memories of those involved. Taking possession of the cartridge cases of the bullets assumed to have killed the President of the United States would surely have been a seminal experience. Yet, Detective Sims was vague and uncertain in his Warren Commission testimony [23]: Q: Who picked up the hulls? A: Well, I assisted Lieutenant Day in picking the hulls up. Q: There were three hulls? A: Yes, sir. Q: Now, what kind of receptacle did you put them in? A: He had an envelope. Q: Did he take charge of the hulls there? A: I don’t know. Q: Did he take them in his possession, I mean? A: I don’t remember if he took them in his possession then or not. Q: …You didn’t take them in your possession did you? A: No sir; I don’t believe I did. This confused exchange suggests that Mr. Sims was relying less on his memory of the events than on his memory of what he had been told to say. Captain Fritz, although significantly older than Detective Sims, exhibited a better memory in an affidavit [24]: “After the pictures were made, Detective R.M. Sims of the Homicide Bureau, who was assisting in the search of building, brought the three empty hulls to my office. These were delivered to me in my office at the police headquarters. I kept the hulls in an envelope in my possession and later turned them over to C.N. Dhority of the Homicide Bureau and instructed him to take them to Lt. Day of the Identification Bureau.” One has to wonder if these were the same casings that Captain Fritz himself had picked up and pocketed. The Mannlicher-Carcano rifle found on the sixth floor of the TSBD was examined for its pattern of cartridge-case ejection by Robert Frazier, a firearms expert with the FBI. The tests showed that cartridges were ejected at angles ranging from 68 to 97 degrees [25]). When shown the photographs in Figures 14 and 15, Mr. Frazier concurred, in his Warren Commission testimony, that if the rifle had been fired from that window, the locations of the cartridge cases were consistent with the results of his tests to determine the ejection patterns [26]. If Mr. Frazier had been shown the photograph in Figure 11 and had been told that the rifle trajectory was 45 degrees towards the southwest, I wonder if he would have similarly concurred. It is ironic that the results from Mr. Frazier’s tests indicate that casings ejected from the rifle fired by an assassin in the official “sniper’s nest,” as illustrated in Figure 11, would have struck the east surface of the stacked cartons and not ricocheted between the stacked cartons and the south wall.
Guest Gary Loughran Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Like I said, I was nit picking. I thought it an important differential to note.
Stephen Roy Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Pat: I could be wrong, just a shot in the dark... Did Alyea work for WFAA? In the 1993 WFAA "Kennedy Tapes" special, showing the 1963 tapes, a number of newsfilms were rush-developed and shown on the air unedited. That might be worth checking as a source. Unfortunately, there are some 14 hours of tape to slog through, and my copy is an atrocious multi-generation VHS dub (from the Canadian source). Steve
Vitali Zhuk Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) I think it is the part of the Alyea film on November 22, 1963. Could anybody identify at what time this episode at 2m55s was shot - https://youtu.be/4XNHtUDEDAI?t=2m55s ? The position of the boxes in the sniper nest is all right. Could anybody provide a link to the original Alyea film? P.S. On Nov 22 the maximum of solar elevation was near 37 degrees at 12:13. Sunrise at 7:04 am. Sunset at 17:23 pm. TSBD looking near South with 15 degrees pivot to the East. Look at the the shadow on the window frame in the film. The solar elevation was approximately 30 degrees. The Alyea film was shot at approximately 13:30-15:00 pm on November 22, 1963. Edited July 26, 2015 by Vitali Zhuk
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