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;) The key here is below, NY TIMES LEFT "OUT" + other agents in room + !!!!!!!! ;):ph34r:;)

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Cheryl's Daily Diatribe: Friday, May 24, 2002

LINK HERE FOR THIS ARTICLE (get to see her other links she mentions) http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd052402.html

SMOKING GUN: The evidence that may hang G.W. Bush

Part I Part II Part III Part IV Part V

Osama bin Laden hunter O'Neill was killed at WTC:

Was he also a casualty of the Bush administration?

by Cheryl Seal, Unknown News

March 2003: Background information on Barbara Bodine

Until he resigned in August of 2001, John O'Neill was the director of counterterrorism for the FBI's New York office, not far from the WTC. O'Neill investigated the bombings of the World Trade Centre in 1993, a US base in Saudi Arabia in 1996, the US embassies in Nairobi and Dar-Es-Salaam in 1998, and the USS Cole last year.

In the course of these investigations, he became one of the world's top experts on Osama Bin Laden and Al Quada, determined to hunt Bin Laden and his followers down and bring them to justice. Those who worked with him said he "lived, breathed and ate terrorism." A scrappy, stubborn Irishman with a quick temper, a fondness for the ladies, and a reputation for being brutally blunt on some occasions, and pushy on others, O'Neill was often frustrated by the button-down boundaries of the modern FBI. But he was one of the best sleuths the agency had -- as anyone who worked with him would be quick to acknowledge. U.S. attorney Mary Jo White says this of O'Neill:: "John went at it comprehensively, yielding things from people in London or people in Yemen we never otherwise would have gotten." Another admirer, former FBI director Louis Freeh remembers O'Neill as " the paramount, most knowledgeable agent we had in the FBI, probably in the government, with respect to counterintelligence matters."

After years of investigating OBL and Al Quada, O'Neill came to the conclusion that "All the answers, everything needed to dismantle Osama bin Laden's organization can be found in Saudi Arabia." That conviction went with him to his grave. Unfortunately for O'Neill and 3,000 other men and women, at every turn after January 2001, the Bush administration blocked the efforts of the "most knowledgeable agent it had" to investigate Saudi ties to Bin Laden.

O'Neill saw through Bush from the start and by the summer of 2001 declared that the main obstacles to investigating Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil corporate interests and the role Saudi Arabia played in furthering those interests. Bush not only thwarted an FBI investigation of the bin Laden family, he kept the specific nature of his family's business ties to the Bin Ladens as secret as Cheney's energy task force list. A few disturbing facts are known, however. For example, Bin Ladens were investors in the Carlyle Group, the secretive energy-and-arms corporation cofounded by George Bush, Sr.. Carlyle was earlier reputed to have been a major stakeholder in Central Asian oil interests, though they have, not surprisingly, dropped from the foreground in the past year. Bin Laden money was also sunk into George W. Bush's first oil companies. A Bin Laden was involved in BioPort, the company that G.W. Bush granted a federal contract for producing anthrax vaccine, even though the company had failed three FDA inspections. It is hard to imagine, given this cozy history, that O'Neill had much use for the Bush clan. It must have truly enraged him when he learned (as he inevitably must have, given his position inside the intelligence grapevine) that Osama bin Laden had flown to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by local CIA agent Larry Mitchell on July 12. But let's backtrack to the year before 9/11, back to the fall of 2000.

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Editor's note, 3/10/2003: CNN has reported that Barbara Bodine, mentioned in the next section of this article, will be "administering" central Iraq once the forthcoming "war" is over.

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In October of 2000, after entering the Port of Aden off the coast of Yemen, the USS Cole was hit by suicide bomber. The blast killed 17 and injured 35 Americans. O'Neill was sent over to investigate, as head of the FBI team. Accompanying O'Neill to Yemen were over 100 FBI agents, laboratory experts and forensics specialists, as well as FBI Director Louis J. Freeh. From the earliest moments of the investigation, O'Neill was sure Bin Laden was responsible. However, from the start, his efforts to work the case were sabotaged by US ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine. Bodine refused to cooperate in the investigation or to encourage Yemenis to cooperate. Despite repeated death threats against agents, she refused to allow them to carry the type of weapons O'Neill considered adequate. O'Neill reportedly called Louis Freeh in the middle of the night once expressing anxiety about the safety of his men. The clash between O'Neill and Bodine went steadily from bad to worse, peaking when Bodine publicly called O'Neill a xxxx. Incredibly, Bodine claimed that through her actions, she was merely trying to keep diplomatic relations running smoothly.

But a look at Ms. Bodine's history suggests a very different motivation. Throughout her career, Barbara Bodine has served primarily under rightwing old boys and in areas where the oil interests of said old boys are being furthered. Under Reagan, she served as Deputy Principle Officer in Baghdad, Iraq. Under Bush, Sr., she served as Deputy Chief of Mission in Kuwait and was there during the Gulf War. She has also worked for Bob Dole, and far more ominously, for Henry Kissinger. So, in 2000 we find her in Yemen, and though a Clinton appointee, impeding the Clinton administration's efforts to conduct an investigation of a crime of terrorism in which the chief suspect is the son of a Bush family business associate.

What makes Bodine's actions toward O'Neill particularly indefensible is that there is credible evidence that she herself was to blame, at least in part, for the Cole disaster. Kie Fallis, a Defense Intelligence Agency counterterrorism analyst, had issued a report before the disaster, warning of the danger of just such an attack in Yemen. As it turned out, the report was suppressed by senior DIA officials, and by Bodine and Gen. Anthony Zinn, who decided to allow the Cole to enter the Port under the lowest grade of security permitted in the Middle East -- though they were both aware of the warning. Fallis quit in protest the day after the bombing.

The report Fallis refers to was "officially" issued six hours after the attack by the NSA. The report said terrorists were known to be actively engaged in "operational planning" for an attack and had traveled to Dubai and Beirut in preparation for this attack. Yet, on Oct 29, senior intelligence officials issued a statement claiming that the warnings they had received were too vague to have justified issuing a stronger alert. Sound familiar?

The Clinton administration intervened in the investigation, and an arrangement was made that at least made it possible for agents to question suspects (thanks to Bodine, even this had been impossible before). O'Neill returned to the States for the holidays. By that time, Bush had succeeded in pulling off the theft of the presidency. O'Neill was barred from returning to Yemen to continue his investigation. Shortly after he returned, while attending a seminar in Tampa, O'Neill's briefcase, which contained some sensitive papers, was stolen. Although the briefcase was found intact shortly afterward, with only a cigar lighter missing, the incident later proved to be something much more than a petty theft, as you shall see.

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From this point on out, incidents, actions, and decisions become so complex and interwoven that a chronology seems the best way to present the information.

. CHRONOLOGY LATE JANUARY 2001 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 11 2001

Late January: Within 10 days of being sworn in until a few weeks before 9/11, Bush becomes preoccupied -- obsessed, some have whispered -- with trying to cut a deal with the Taliban that would make Afghanistan a new playground for American oil interests. The game plan involved swiping the oil-rich Caspian region from Russian control -- proving just how loyal Bush is to his "soul mates" (Putin). From January through August, a time during which he felt sure he could cajole or pressure the Taliban into playing ball, Bush did not consider the Afghan religious despots "evil." In fact, he is reported to have described their repressive regime "as a source of stability in Central Asia" that would provide the ideal environment for the construction of an oil pipeline

February 2001: In a masterpiece of conflicting signals, Bush, after expressing interest in negotiations, orders the Taliban government offices in U.S. closed. The Taliban responds by saying it might be willing to turn over Osama Bin Laden

March 2001: Laila Helms, daughter of former CIA director Richard Helms, brings one of Mullah Omar's advisors, Sayed Hashimi to Washington. During that visit, Hashimi meets with the directorate of Central Intelligence at the CIA and the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department. At one meeting, says Helms, Hashami proposes that the Taliban would be willing to hold bin Laden in one location long enough for the U.S. to locate and destroy him. However, this offer is refused by the Bush administration.

April through August: one warning after another of terrorists attack directed against the U.S. come into the Bush administration, from the UK, Russia, Egypt, Israel, France, Germany, and Russia.

Early May: FBI director Louis Freeh, after being the subject of an intensive rightwing smear campaign (see various NewsMax stories as prime samples) quits -- or, more accurately, is forced out.

May: Bush gives Taliban $43 million in what is reported to be a "pot sweetening deal"

June: Freeh now gone, the last of the FBI agents investigating the Cole are suddenly pulled out of Yemen, ostensibly because of the lack of progress and danger.

June: O'Neill meets with French intelligence expert Jean-Charles Brisard in Paris and expresses his frustration at the Bush administration. He tells Brisard he believes the key to making headway against terrorism lies in Saudi Arabia, but that oil interests lie in the way of any serious investigation.

Brisard and his associate Guillaume Dasquié, an intelligence analyst and the editor of Intelligence Online, dedicated their book "Bin Laden: the Forbidden Truth" (released in France in November 2001) to O'Neill. The book has been vigorously avoided by U.S. publishers and everyone in the mainstream U.S. press except Paula Zahn, who has presented excerpts of it.

July: Francesc Vendrell and Tom Simmons (former ambassador to Pakistan)meet with Taliban in Berlin on Bush administration's behalf. A deal that offers a coalition government and a pipeline is proposed to the Taliban. When Tom Simmons threatens the Taliban with military action as alternative to not accepting the deal, the Taliban reps storm out of meetings.

July: Possibly as a way to mollify the Taliban, Bush directs FBI to back off Osama Bin Laden

July 6: In response to public pressure, the FBI is sent back to Yemen, but O'Neill is told he is barred from entering the country.

July 10: 'An FBI agent named Kenneth Williams who is based in Phoenix AZ sends a memo to John O'Neill that he suspected an OBL hijacker in training was taking flight lessons at a local flight school. The memo never gets further than whoever O'Neill transmitted it to. And, knowing O'Neill's history, there is no doubt the info was transmitted.

July 12: Osama bin Laden receives treatment at an American hospital in Dubai and is visited by CIA agent Larry Mitchell

July: O'Neill meets again with French intelligence analyst Brisard, this time in NYC. He again expresses frustration at Bush's refusal to pursue OBL or Saudi terrorist ties seriously. It is absolutely certain that O'Neill by now realized that even the memo from Williams would not be followed up on.

First week of August: Christina Rocca, director of Asian affairs at the State Department, meets the Taliban ambassador in Islamabad to reopen negotiations. Her message from Bush according to intelligence reports repeated in Brisard and Dasquie's book. "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs." This offer is refused.

August 6: The most serious terrorist attack warning is delivered to Bush. At this point, it should have been clear to the Bush that, having just four days before threatened the Taliban with military action, there would be a very good chance that something serious might happen, perhaps in the nature of a preemptive strike. Yet it is at this point that Bush decides against taking serious action on the threats.

WHY?

This is a president who has just delivered an ultimatum to the Taliban, yet has no plausible pretext for "carpeting" Afghanistan with bombs. This is also a president whose approval ratings have sunk to below 50% who needs something BIG to pull them back up. And there on his desk is an opportunity for his problems to be solved

. Early August: Dick Clarke, the president's terrorism czar at the National Security Council, tells O'Neill he would like to put his name is as his successor. "It would be a powerful position," fellow agent Barry Mawn says. "That person would have direct contact with the FBI and turn around and influence top Cabinet people, and possibly even the president."

Mid-August: A flight school in Minnesota flight reports Zacharias Missouri to the local FBI office after Missouri requested training in how to fly a jet, but not in how to land or take off. Although Moussaoui is arrested, agents did not search his computer and thus missed vital clues.

August 19: New York Times reports that O'Neill is suddenly under investigation for the "brief case incident." Tom Pickard, second in command at FBI tells O'Neill he can pretty much kiss the promotion chance goodbye. It is clear O'Neill, like Freeh, is being squeezed out. "Friends of O'Neill have said that Pickard, who was very cozy with Ashcroft and the Bush team, acted as the number one road block to O'Neill's efforts to progress in the agency at this time. After Sept. 11, Pickard, who, unlike O'Neill and Freeh, had NO experience invetsigating terrorism (his speciality was white collar crime) was placed in charge of the Sept. 11 investigation and also the anthrax investigation. In November, Pickard retired."

Late August: O'Neill quits the FBI

Early Sept.: O'Neill takes a job as head of security for the WTC. He mentions to friends in New York that he fully expects the building to be targeted by terrorists in the future.

September 7: The CIA's Promis program begins picking up unusual trading activity for United and American Airlines.

September 11: On O'Neill's second day of work on the 34th floor, the WTC is hit by the first plane. O'Neill makes it out of the building safely, calls his son to say he is OK,. then goes into the other tower to help guide those still inside to safety. Minutes later, O'Neill, along with hundreds of others, is dead, killed by the terrorist the Bush administration refused to allow him to pursue to the best of his ability.

History will be kind to John O'Neill. It will not be kind to George W. Bush.

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July 2000

A Costly Slip Up (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/john/timeline.html)

During a FBI retirement conference in Orlando, Florida, O'Neill leaves a briefcase with documents from work in a room with other agents while he goes outside to take a cell phone call. The bag is missing when he returns, and he immediately alerts local police. O'Neill is relieved when he learns the bag had been recovered and only a Mont Blanc pen and a lighter had been taken; however, he is concerned when he learns he is carrying more sensitive documents than he had realized. O'Neill's friend Jerry Hauer tells FRONTLINE, "I think he felt that some people were going to use it -- as they did -- as a wedge, as a way of painting him in a bad light."

O'Neill decides to return directly to New York and reports the incident. A fingerprint dusting reveals no documents were touched, but the Justice Department opens an investigation. While he would be cleared of any criminal wrongdoing, the incident shadows the rest of his FBI career.

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NEW YORK TIMES COVERUP>>>>>>>>

Here is a snippet of the New York Times' version- which notably leaves OUT the mention that he left his briefcase with other agents. And as someone pointed out, there is no way to tell what was put INTO the briefcase while it was missing.

Mr. O'Neill left his briefcase in a hotel conference room while he attended an F.B.I. meeting in Tampa, Fla., last summer. The briefcase was stolen, but the local authorities recovered it and returned it to him within hours with the contents. Jill Stillman, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, said that department officials would not comment on the matter. Requests to discuss the matter with Mr. O'Neill were made to bureau officials in New York and Washington. In both cases, they said that he declined to comment on the case. After the criminal inquiry, the bureau's internal affairs unit began its own investigation to determine whether Mr. O'Neill had violated F.B.I. rules against mishandling classified information. Officials identified one document in the briefcase as a draft of what is known in the bureau as the Annual Field Office Report for national security operations in New York. The closely guarded report contained a description of every counterespionage and counterterrorism program in New York and detailed the budget and manpower for each operation. The document, submitted to bureau headquarters, is used as a central planning tool each year. F.B.I. agents are prohibited from removing classified documents from their offices without authorization. Violations are punishable by censure, suspension or even dismissal, depending on the seriousness. ... - "F.B.I. Is Investigating a Senior Counterterrorism Agent," by DAVID JOHNSTON and JAMES RISEN, New York Times, Published: 8/19/01

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: What hasn't been clear has been the disarray in the counter-terrorism ranks due to 1. personnel changeover in the spring/summer of 2001. 2. the burnout of Clarke, O'Neill, Pickard, etc.

Clarke was switching to cyber-terrorism in March. O'Neill, in debt and marriage trouble, was sniffing at Clarke's job at Clarke's urging. And Pickard told Ashcroft straight up when taking over for Freeh in the summer that he was there for only a few months. So much for those three's now-professed bulldog attitude toward Al Qaeda and their convictions that America was going to be attacked at home. Yes, maybe before, but not in August and September.

On more small tidbit. When O'Neill was looking into the NSC terrorism job, the C-T community began hearing about it. O'Neill, still worried about being spanked bureaucratically for it, asked Clarke to lie and deny it. Clarke readily did so:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?020114fa_FACT1

- excerpt - O'Neill had always harbored two aspirations—to become a deputy director of the bureau in Washington or to take over the New York office. Freeh was retiring in June, so there were likely to be some vacancies at the top, but the investigation into the briefcase incident would likely block any promotion in the bureau. O'Neill viewed Clarke's job as, in many ways, a perfect fit for him. But he was financially pressed, and Clarke's job paid no more than he was making at the F.B.I. Throughout the summer, O'Neill refused to commit himself to Clarke's offer. He talked about it with a number of friends but became alarmed when he thought that headquarters might hear of it. "He called me in a worked-up state," Clarke recalled. "He said that people in the C.I.A. and elsewhere know you are considering recommending me for your job. You have to tell them it's not true." Clarke dutifully called a friend in the agency, even though O'Neill still wanted to be a candidate for the position.

In July, O'Neill heard of a job opening in the private sector which would pay more than twice his government salary—that of chief of security for the World Trade Center. Although the Justice Department dropped its inquiry into the briefcase incident, the bureau was conducting an internal investigation of its own. O'Neill was aware that the Times was preparing a story about the affair, and he learned that the reporters also knew about the incident in New Jersey involving James and had classified information that probably came from the bureau's investigative files.The leak seemed to be timed to destroy O'Neill's chance of being confirmed for the N.S.C. job. He decided to retire.

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This is most important 911 link to show inside job. NSA doesnt help CIA on Al-Qaeda terrorism. WHY ? :angel:angel:angel

http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=Barbara+McNamara&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go

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This is most important 911 link to show inside job. NSA doesnt help CIA on Al-Qaeda terrorism. WHY ? :angel:angel:angel

http://www.historyco...eline_yemen_hub

Where in this link that you refer to is there any mention of John O'Neill?

Also, in the above first posting on this thread, you mention O'Neill's briefcase being stolen by fellow agents - but then don't bother to mention that again.

What's up?

What's your point?

I happen to know something about this as it is one of the two incidents that I focused on when I covered the 9/11 Commission hearings.

Without a doubt, the person who stole John O'Neil's briefcase in Florida was a connected FBI agent or asset, and they could have been easily identified by reviewing

the hotel's security cameras, but the FBI never bothered to even try to identify the culpret(s) because they knew who they were.

This is behavior typical of what we have come to expect from the FBI from what we know of their investigations of the civil rights murders and assassinations of the Sixties.

O'Neil thought he could change the culture, and he was wrong and was shown out the door.

So What's your point again?

BK

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This is most important 911 link to show inside job. NSA doesnt help CIA on Al-Qaeda terrorism. WHY ? :angel:angel:angel

http://www.historyco...eline_yemen_hub

Where in this link that you refer to is there any mention of John O'Neill?

Also, in the above first posting on this thread, you mention O'Neill's briefcase being stolen by fellow agents - but then don't bother to mention that again.

What's up?

What's your point?

I happen to know something about this as it is one of the two incidents that I focused on when I covered the 9/11 Commission hearings.

Without a doubt, the person who stole John O'Neil's briefcase in Florida was a connected FBI agent or asset, and they could have been easily identified by reviewing

the hotel's security cameras, but the FBI never bothered to even try to identify the culpret(s) because they knew who they were.

This is behavior typical of what we have come to expect from the FBI from what we know of their investigations of the civil rights murders and assassinations of the Sixties.

O'Neil thought he could change the culture, and he was wrong and was shown out the door.

So What's your point again?

BK

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Bill, why do you post ? Golly this is a Political Conspiracy site,yes ?? The NSA was covering up Yemen Al-Qaeda info,this is the O'Neill link. Bigger picture can be seen. The briefcase caper has to be seen (NSA link giving context) in the context of a Secret Team promoting terrorism. No cold war,no enemy,no money and thus you have a very simple/true formula that tears apart the world today. Just showing, point 1= conspiracies exist,point 2=conspiracies are promoted within the intell services themselves (CIA inside CIA,NSA inside NSA,FBI inside FBI,ONI inside ONI,ect...) AKA SECRET TEAMS,point 3=major media outlets coverup and promote said conspiracies,point 4=911 was one of these elite conspiracies.

Now to further these points see below. Chicago Tribune covers in a 1100 word article showing Atta's elite spon­sors are appar­ently pow­er­ful enough to keep the organization’s name out of the news­pa­pers, or at any rate, out of the Chicago Tribune. Please note ,Tri­bune cor­re­spon­dent Steven­son Swan­son cites the Ger­man cou­ple for ‘hav­ing played such an impor­tant role in Atta’s move to Ger­many,’ he never gives their names, nor that of the orga­ni­za­tion that they worked for. ))))))))))))))))))))++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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FROM PRO ISRAEL SPITFIRE LIST SITE below ++++++++

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“For at least four years while liv­ing in Ham­burg dur­ing the 1990’s ter­ror­ist ring­leader Mohamed Atta was part of a ‘joint ven­ture’ between the U.S. and Ger­man Gov­ern­ments, the Mad­Cow­Morn­ing News has learned, an elite inter­na­tional ‘exchange’ pro­gram run by a little-known pri­vate orga­ni­za­tion with close ties to pow­er­ful Amer­i­can polit­i­cal fig­ures like David Rock­e­feller and for­mer Sec­re­tary of State Henry Kissinger. The jointly-funded gov­ern­ment effort picked up the tab for Atta on sojourns in Cairo, Istan­bul, and Aleppo in Syria dur­ing the years 1994 and 1995 and employed him as a ‘tutor’ and ‘sem­i­nar par­tic­i­pant’ dur­ing 1996 and 1997.”

(“Atta Worked for Elite US-German Exchange Pro­gram” by Daniel Hop­sicker; Mad­Cow­Morn­ingNews; 4/24/2003; p. 1.)

11. Note that Atta’s Ger­man spon­sor­ship may have dated to 1992 (when the elder George Bush was in office. (As dis­cussed in FTR#403, the germ for the Project for a New Amer­i­can Century’s blue­print for US con­trol of the Mid­dle East was for­mu­lated by Paul Wol­fowitz in 1992, when he was work­ing for the elder Bush. The pos­si­bil­ity that the 1992 spon­sor­ship of Atta by his mys­te­ri­ous Ger­man bene­fac­tors and Wolfowitz’s 1992 pro­jec­tions are con­nected is not one to be too read­ily dismissed.

“More­over Atta’s finan­cial rela­tion­ship with the U.S.-German gov­ern­ment effort may even have extended back to his ini­tial move from Egypt to Ger­many in 1992, after being ‘recruited’ in Cairo by a mys­te­ri­ous Ger­man cou­ple dubbed the ‘hijacker’s spon­sors’ in a recent news account in the Chicago Tri­bune. In the years before he became a ‘ter­ror­ist ring­leader,’ Atta was enjoy­ing the patron­age of a gov­ern­ment ini­tia­tive over­seen by the U.S. State Depart­ment and the Ger­man Min­istry of Eco­nomic Coop­er­a­tion and Devel­op­ment, the Ger­man equiv­a­lent of the U.S. Agency cur­rently super­vis­ing the secre­tive bid­ding race for tens of bil­lions of dol­lars of post-war recon­struc­tion con­tracts in Iraq, the Agency for Inter­na­tional Development.”

(Idem.)

12. The orga­ni­za­tion that appar­ently spon­sored Atta’s trav­els was the Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft (its Amer­i­can com­po­nent is the Carl Duis­berg Society)—named for one of the prin­ci­pal fig­ures in the found­ing of I.G. Farben.

“News that Mohamed Atta had been on the pay­roll of an elite inter­na­tional pro­gram known as the ‘Congress-Bundestag Pro­gram first sur­faced a month after the 9/11 attack in a brief seven-line report by Ger­man news­pa­per Frank­furter Alge­meine Zeitung on 10/18/2001 under the head­line ‘Atta was Tutor for Schol­ar­ship Hold­ers.’ The story quoted a spokesman for ‘Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft,’ described as a ‘Ger­man inter­na­tional fur­ther edu­ca­tion orga­ni­za­tion,’ as hav­ing admit­ted pay­ing Ham­burg cadre prin­ci­pal Atta as a ‘schol­ar­ship holder’ and ‘tutor,’ as the spokesman put it, between 1995 and 1997.”

(Ibid.; pp. 1–2.)

13.

“But the shock­ing rev­e­la­tion that Atta had there­fore been on the pay­roll of a joint U.S.-German gov­ern­ment pro­gram was con­cealed by the news­pa­per through the sim­ple expe­di­ent of neglect­ing to men­tion that the ‘Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft’ was merely a pri­vate entity set up to admin­is­ter an offi­cial U.S. and Ger­man gov­ern­ment ini­tia­tive. The U.S. end of the pro­gram is run out of an address at United Nations Plaza in New York by CDS Inter­na­tional. The let­ters stand for Carl Duis­berg Soci­ety, which is also the name of its Ger­man coun­ter­part in Cologne, the Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft. Both are named for Carl Duis­berg, a Ger­man chemist and indus­tri­al­ist who headed the Bayer Cor­po­ra­tion dur­ing the 1920’s.”

(Ibid.; p. 2.)

14.

“CDS Inter­na­tional, states the organization’s lit­er­a­ture, pro­vides oppor­tu­ni­ties for young Ger­man pro­fes­sion­als. ‘These young Ger­man engi­neers earn real world expe­ri­ence and are given assign­ments to con­tribute from the start,’ a pro­gram spokesman enthused in a news­pa­per interview . . .”

(Idem.)

15.

“Hav­ing pow­er­ful friends in such high places may also explain the curi­ous omis­sions in a sec­ond story about Mohamed Atta’s time in Ger­many which appeared recently in The Chicago Tri­bune, head­lined ‘9/11 Haunts Hijacker’s Spon­sors; Ger­man Cou­ple Talks , of Liv­ing with Pilot Atta.’ The March 7, 2003 describes the 1992 meet­ing in Cairo which led Mohamed Atta to move to Ham­burg, between Atta and a Ger­man cou­ple, which the paper does not name, who ran an inter­na­tional stu­dent exchange pro­gram, which the paper also leaves anonymous. ”

(Idem.)

16.

“Dur­ing a visit to the Egypt­ian cap­i­tal in fall 1991, said the Tri­bune, the Ger­man cou­ple had stayed with friends who knew Atta’s father, a Cairo lawyer, and his father’s friends had then intro­duced the Ger­man cou­ple to Atta. ‘Atta who had recently grad­u­ated with a degree in archi­tec­tural engi­neer­ing from the Uni­ver­sity of Cairo, told the cou­ple he wanted to study archi­tec­ture in Ger­many, but he had no par­tic­u­lar idea where he should go,’ the paper reported . . .”

(Ibid.; p. 3.)

17.

“ ‘In this first con­ver­sa­tion, we sug­gested he con­tinue his stud­ies in Ham­burg and offered him a place to live at our house,’ the paper quotes the Ger­man wife telling inves­ti­ga­tors from the BKA, the Ger­man equiv­a­lent of the FBI. Atta, she states, accepted their offer right away. Why did an (unnamed) Ger­man cou­ple, run­ning an (unnamed) inter­na­tional exchange pro­gram leap at the chance to engage a young man who was not even con­sid­ered promis­ing enough to gain entrance to a local Cairo grad­u­ate school? The Tri­bune doesn’t say.”

(Idem.)

18.

“After study­ing Ger­man in Cairo, Atta arrived in the coun­try on July 24, 1992, accord­ing to inves­ti­ga­tors’ records, and then lived rent-free for at least the next six months in the couple’s home in a quiet, middle-class neigh­bor­hood. It is more than curi­ous that although Tri­bune cor­re­spon­dent Steven­son Swan­son cites the Ger­man cou­ple for ‘hav­ing played such an impor­tant role in Atta’s move to Ger­many,’ he never gives their names, nor that of the orga­ni­za­tion they worked for. But since just two years later, Atta was on the pay­roll of the ‘Congress-Bundestag Pro­gram,’ it is rea­son­able to con­clude that this same government-funded pro­gram was respon­si­ble for bring­ing him to Ger­many in the first place, under the aegis of an unnamed Ger­man cou­ple. His elite spon­sors are appar­ently pow­er­ful enough to keep the organization’s name out of the news­pa­pers, or at any rate, out of the Chicago Tribune.”

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This is most important 911 link to show inside job. NSA doesnt help CIA on Al-Qaeda terrorism. WHY ? :angel:angel:angel

http://www.historyco...eline_yemen_hub

Where in this link that you refer to is there any mention of John O'Neill?

Also, in the above first posting on this thread, you mention O'Neill's briefcase being stolen by fellow agents - but then don't bother to mention that again.

What's up?

What's your point?

I happen to know something about this as it is one of the two incidents that I focused on when I covered the 9/11 Commission hearings.

Without a doubt, the person who stole John O'Neil's briefcase in Florida was a connected FBI agent or asset, and they could have been easily identified by reviewing

the hotel's security cameras, but the FBI never bothered to even try to identify the culpret(s) because they knew who they were.

This is behavior typical of what we have come to expect from the FBI from what we know of their investigations of the civil rights murders and assassinations of the Sixties.

O'Neil thought he could change the culture, and he was wrong and was shown out the door.

So What's your point again?

BK

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Bill, why do you post ? Golly this is a Political Conspiracy site,yes ?? The NSA was covering up Yemen Al-Qaeda info,this is the O'Neill link. Bigger picture can be seen. The briefcase caper has to be seen (NSA link giving context) in the context of a Secret Team promoting terrorism. No cold war,no enemy,no money and thus you have a very simple/true formula that tears apart the world today. Just showing, point 1= conspiracies exist,point 2=conspiracies are promoted within the intell services themselves (CIA inside CIA,NSA inside NSA,FBI inside FBI,ONI inside ONI,ect...) AKA SECRET TEAMS,point 3=major media outlets coverup and promote said conspiracies,point 4=911 was one of these elite conspiracies.

Now to further these points see below. Chicago Tribune covers in a 1100 word article showing Atta's elite spon­sors are appar­ently pow­er­ful enough to keep the organization’s name out of the news­pa­pers, or at any rate, out of the Chicago Tribune. Please note ,Tri­bune cor­re­spon­dent Steven­son Swan­son cites the Ger­man cou­ple for ‘hav­ing played such an impor­tant role in Atta’s move to Ger­many,’ he never gives their names, nor that of the orga­ni­za­tion that they worked for. This issue I cover below link I give next section.

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Please note that the Chicago Tribune was part of the great Canadian Conrad Black's media empire at the time of said article. Black's relatives were a large part of British WWII intell ultra deep black SOE . This link covers media being "part" of the 911 conspiracy process. SEE

http://www.globalres...es/KUP206A.html = NOW BELOW CHICAGO TRIBUNE media issue.

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FROM PRO ISRAEL SPITFIRE LIST SITE below ++++++++

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“For at least four years while liv­ing in Ham­burg dur­ing the 1990’s ter­ror­ist ring­leader Mohamed Atta was part of a ‘joint ven­ture’ between the U.S. and Ger­man Gov­ern­ments, the Mad­Cow­Morn­ing News has learned, an elite inter­na­tional ‘exchange’ pro­gram run by a little-known pri­vate orga­ni­za­tion with close ties to pow­er­ful Amer­i­can polit­i­cal fig­ures like David Rock­e­feller and for­mer Sec­re­tary of State Henry Kissinger. The jointly-funded gov­ern­ment effort picked up the tab for Atta on sojourns in Cairo, Istan­bul, and Aleppo in Syria dur­ing the years 1994 and 1995 and employed him as a ‘tutor’ and ‘sem­i­nar par­tic­i­pant’ dur­ing 1996 and 1997.”

(“Atta Worked for Elite US-German Exchange Pro­gram” by Daniel Hop­sicker; Mad­Cow­Morn­ingNews; 4/24/2003; p. 1.)

11. Note that Atta’s Ger­man spon­sor­ship may have dated to 1992 (when the elder George Bush was in office. (As dis­cussed in FTR#403, the germ for the Project for a New Amer­i­can Century’s blue­print for US con­trol of the Mid­dle East was for­mu­lated by Paul Wol­fowitz in 1992, when he was work­ing for the elder Bush. The pos­si­bil­ity that the 1992 spon­sor­ship of Atta by his mys­te­ri­ous Ger­man bene­fac­tors and Wolfowitz’s 1992 pro­jec­tions are con­nected is not one to be too read­ily dismissed.

“More­over Atta’s finan­cial rela­tion­ship with the U.S.-German gov­ern­ment effort may even have extended back to his ini­tial move from Egypt to Ger­many in 1992, after being ‘recruited’ in Cairo by a mys­te­ri­ous Ger­man cou­ple dubbed the ‘hijacker’s spon­sors’ in a recent news account in the Chicago Tri­bune. In the years before he became a ‘ter­ror­ist ring­leader,’ Atta was enjoy­ing the patron­age of a gov­ern­ment ini­tia­tive over­seen by the U.S. State Depart­ment and the Ger­man Min­istry of Eco­nomic Coop­er­a­tion and Devel­op­ment, the Ger­man equiv­a­lent of the U.S. Agency cur­rently super­vis­ing the secre­tive bid­ding race for tens of bil­lions of dol­lars of post-war recon­struc­tion con­tracts in Iraq, the Agency for Inter­na­tional Development.”

(Idem.)

12. The orga­ni­za­tion that appar­ently spon­sored Atta’s trav­els was the Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft (its Amer­i­can com­po­nent is the Carl Duis­berg Society)—named for one of the prin­ci­pal fig­ures in the found­ing of I.G. Farben.

“News that Mohamed Atta had been on the pay­roll of an elite inter­na­tional pro­gram known as the ‘Congress-Bundestag Pro­gram first sur­faced a month after the 9/11 attack in a brief seven-line report by Ger­man news­pa­per Frank­furter Alge­meine Zeitung on 10/18/2001 under the head­line ‘Atta was Tutor for Schol­ar­ship Hold­ers.’ The story quoted a spokesman for ‘Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft,’ described as a ‘Ger­man inter­na­tional fur­ther edu­ca­tion orga­ni­za­tion,’ as hav­ing admit­ted pay­ing Ham­burg cadre prin­ci­pal Atta as a ‘schol­ar­ship holder’ and ‘tutor,’ as the spokesman put it, between 1995 and 1997.”

(Ibid.; pp. 1–2.)

13.

“But the shock­ing rev­e­la­tion that Atta had there­fore been on the pay­roll of a joint U.S.-German gov­ern­ment pro­gram was con­cealed by the news­pa­per through the sim­ple expe­di­ent of neglect­ing to men­tion that the ‘Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft’ was merely a pri­vate entity set up to admin­is­ter an offi­cial U.S. and Ger­man gov­ern­ment ini­tia­tive. The U.S. end of the pro­gram is run out of an address at United Nations Plaza in New York by CDS Inter­na­tional. The let­ters stand for Carl Duis­berg Soci­ety, which is also the name of its Ger­man coun­ter­part in Cologne, the Carl Duis­berg Gesellschaft. Both are named for Carl Duis­berg, a Ger­man chemist and indus­tri­al­ist who headed the Bayer Cor­po­ra­tion dur­ing the 1920’s.”

(Ibid.; p. 2.)

14.

“CDS Inter­na­tional, states the organization’s lit­er­a­ture, pro­vides oppor­tu­ni­ties for young Ger­man pro­fes­sion­als. ‘These young Ger­man engi­neers earn real world expe­ri­ence and are given assign­ments to con­tribute from the start,’ a pro­gram spokesman enthused in a news­pa­per interview . . .”

(Idem.)

15.

“Hav­ing pow­er­ful friends in such high places may also explain the curi­ous omis­sions in a sec­ond story about Mohamed Atta’s time in Ger­many which appeared recently in The Chicago Tri­bune, head­lined ‘9/11 Haunts Hijacker’s Spon­sors; Ger­man Cou­ple Talks , of Liv­ing with Pilot Atta.’ The March 7, 2003 describes the 1992 meet­ing in Cairo which led Mohamed Atta to move to Ham­burg, between Atta and a Ger­man cou­ple, which the paper does not name, who ran an inter­na­tional stu­dent exchange pro­gram, which the paper also leaves anonymous. ”

(Idem.)

16.

“Dur­ing a visit to the Egypt­ian cap­i­tal in fall 1991, said the Tri­bune, the Ger­man cou­ple had stayed with friends who knew Atta’s father, a Cairo lawyer, and his father’s friends had then intro­duced the Ger­man cou­ple to Atta. ‘Atta who had recently grad­u­ated with a degree in archi­tec­tural engi­neer­ing from the Uni­ver­sity of Cairo, told the cou­ple he wanted to study archi­tec­ture in Ger­many, but he had no par­tic­u­lar idea where he should go,’ the paper reported . . .”

(Ibid.; p. 3.)

17.

“ ‘In this first con­ver­sa­tion, we sug­gested he con­tinue his stud­ies in Ham­burg and offered him a place to live at our house,’ the paper quotes the Ger­man wife telling inves­ti­ga­tors from the BKA, the Ger­man equiv­a­lent of the FBI. Atta, she states, accepted their offer right away. Why did an (unnamed) Ger­man cou­ple, run­ning an (unnamed) inter­na­tional exchange pro­gram leap at the chance to engage a young man who was not even con­sid­ered promis­ing enough to gain entrance to a local Cairo grad­u­ate school? The Tri­bune doesn’t say.”

(Idem.)

18.

“After study­ing Ger­man in Cairo, Atta arrived in the coun­try on July 24, 1992, accord­ing to inves­ti­ga­tors’ records, and then lived rent-free for at least the next six months in the couple’s home in a quiet, middle-class neigh­bor­hood. It is more than curi­ous that although Tri­bune cor­re­spon­dent Steven­son Swan­son cites the Ger­man cou­ple for ‘hav­ing played such an impor­tant role in Atta’s move to Ger­many,’ he never gives their names, nor that of the orga­ni­za­tion they worked for. But since just two years later, Atta was on the pay­roll of the ‘Congress-Bundestag Pro­gram,’ it is rea­son­able to con­clude that this same government-funded pro­gram was respon­si­ble for bring­ing him to Ger­many in the first place, under the aegis of an unnamed Ger­man cou­ple. His elite spon­sors are appar­ently pow­er­ful enough to keep the organization’s name out of the news­pa­pers, or at any rate, out of the Chicago Tribune.”

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Of course we've read Hopsicker's book years ago, and all the info that was suppressed by the Chicago Tribune is now available to anyone, and has been for years.

I thought we were discussing the FBI's theft of John O'Neil's briefcase?

Now that's a crime that can and should be solved but nobody's bothered.

So what is your point again?

BK

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