"Breakfast with JACK RUBY" non-Elm Street Blood; Photographed in DP

[Don Roberdeau]

Good Day.... FYI.... From the Mineola, TX "Mineola Monitor" news.com (my notes follow the article)....

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Breakfast with JACK RUBY

CURRENT PHOTO of Jerry Coley, captioned, "With a copy of The

Warren Report and other related memorabilia spread before him,

Jerry Coley, remembers having breakfast with Jack Ruby[sp] and

other events on Nov. 22, 1963."

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"People say there were three shots," he said, "but you couldn't

tell it by me." All he remembers is the noise and "people running

everywhere."

Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:14 pm

By GARY EDWARDS The Monitor Staff | 0 comments

There was a time in the newspaper business that being a journalist

and having a college degree weren't necessarily seen as being

compatible. In fact, for most in the business, the school of "hard

knocks" was valued well beyond a degree from Yale, Harvard or

any other school.

It didn't seem to matter what department one worked in.

Journalism was a disease to be coveted by writers, photographers

and advertising sales people. Simply being able to say one "worked

for the paper," was enough.

It gave one access to events that others only dream of hearing

about.

None of that was lost on a young Jerry Coley.

By 1963 Coley had spent a two-year stint in the Army and had

worked at the the Dallas Morning News for several years.

He'd figured out that mail room pay wasn't as good as the $40 a

week the advertising folks were making and he sought

improvement in his life style.

Along the way to "financial gain" he'd meet a large number of

interesting people, perhaps none more so than a self-described

former Chicago mafia enforcer by the name of Jack Ruby.

It was Thursday in Dallas, Nov. 21, 1963 and Coley said the staff at

the Morning News was excited about the coming visit by President

John F. Kennedy.

For the ownership and some of the management of the newspaper

it was a huge occasion, for they were Catholic and Kennedy was

the first Catholic president.

Coley remembers the political temperature of the city as

conservative, with some tension related to the conservative views

of retired two-star Army General Edwin Walker, but there was

nothing that would prepare anyone for what happened the

following day.

Friday morning Coley was at work when Ruby came by on what

was more or less a routine trip to the paper to pay his advertising

bill for the strip club he operated in Dallas. Ruby, Coley and others

had breakfast together that Friday in the newspaper cafeteria and

Ruby, who often stayed to make small talk, did so again Coley said.

Ruby would brag about his "girls" and fish money rolled up and

secured by rubberbands from his pocket.

He talked about his days in Chicago and his connection to the mob

and in general, Coley said, Ruby simply hung around the paper.

As Coley recounts how Nov. 22 unfolded, he sits behind a kitchen

counter in what has been his Wood County home since he retired

in 1996. There are a number of magazine articles spread before

him, including diagrams of where the parade route traveled, where

Coley was standing and more.

Well before the president would ride through Dallas, Coley had

already arranged his sales schedule so he'd be downtown to watch

the passage of the caravan and thus he was within yards of Dealey

Plaza as the presidential vehicles passed by, turning right and then

back to the left.

Coley had noticed that Ruby was still at the paper as noon

approached and he would think back later and wonder "if he loved

the President so much why couldn't he walk three blocks to watch

him" pass by in the motorcade.

As the group of vehicles turned the School Book Depository, Coley

remembers hearing a "noise."

"People say there were three shots," he said, "but you couldn't tell

it by me." All he remembers is the noise and "people running

everywhere."

He rapidly worked his way in the direction of the depository and

was stopped by a "county mountie with a shotgun" who told him to

"get the hell out of here."

Which didn't exactly mean Coley left the area.

He remembers people crying and he remembers something else.

Several feet away from the street, above the well-documented

grassy knoll, he found a significant amount of blood.

He ran back to the newspaper, finding Ruby still in the office, on a

phone and crying.

It was a day or so later when Coley found an advertising

photographer, Jim Hood, and ultimately he led Hood back to the

scene of the blood, where he said Hood photographed it.

There were personal moments he'll not likely forget.

They included death threats by telephone calls to his wife saying

Coley needed to "shut your mouth" or they were going to kill

Coley's family.

Then there is the matter of the blood that Coley asked Hood to

photograph.

Several days had gone by and Coley had returned to work when

two men in dark suits appeared at the newspaper. They "flashed

green plastic cards" that appeared to Coley as though they were

FBI agents.

They were interested to hear about the breakfast with Ruby and

then near what appeared to be the end of the interview, Coley

said he asked the men if they knew about the blood on the steps.

There was some discussion between the two visitors off to the side

and following that, the men confiscated the film and the only print

Hood had an opportunity make and then one of the men said to

the two newspaper employees, "boys this never happened if you

know what I mean."

The following day, Coley said, he went back to the spot where he'd

seen the blood and the area was spotless, as though it had "been

chemically cleaned, there was nothing there," he said."We didn't

talk about this for 13 years," Coley said.

For a variety of reasons it took until sometime around 1980 before

Coley began to talk about the blood.

By then the others familiar with the situation were no longer in any

danger of potential retribution and Coley was beginning to feel

comfortable with talking about it.

He was interviewed for a TV program, "Unsolved Mysteries" and

while the interviewers were quite interested in talking about the

blood, it was not used in the finished product.

To his knowledge there has never been any discussion about that

blood by anyone, including those charged with investigating the

assassination. He doesn't know why.

Was Ruby used by someone else to kill Lee Harvey Oswald? Coley

doesn't know the answer but he does have a nagging question to

this day.

Why didn't Ruby walk those few steps to watch the president's

motorcade? If he loved the president as much as he professed,

why wouldn't he want to see him in person?

As for the newspaper family at the Morning News, Coley said, "It

took a couple of years before the paper got over the shooting."

Dallas, he said, was seen as "the city of hate," which he saw as a

"stigma not deserved."

Today, the 78-year-old Coley lives with his wife Bonnie and son

Scott, just East of Mineola, far from the life he knew at the

newspaper.

He's comfortable speaking about the unspeakable and from time to

time he shares his memories with civic clubs and church groups.

But always there will be unanswered questions relating to that

November day in 1963.

His photographer friend died in the next year or two after the

president's death in what Coley describes as questionable

circumstances in a plane crash.

He has other questions that he knows will never be answered to

his satisfaction, or that of others... not in his lifetime at least.

(END QUOTE)

Best Regards in Research,

Don

Donald Roberdeau

U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker

Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

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Edited October 29, 2011 by Don Roberdeau

[Josh Cron]

From Unsolved Texas Mysteries (1992), in which Coley's story orginally appeared:

As Coley and Mulkey emerged from behind the top of the knoll and started down the hill, they noticed a large pool - more than a pint - of a dark red substance on the steps that led down to Elm Street.

“What do ya’ suppose that is?” Coley asked.

“Maybe somebody spilled a cold drink,” Charlie answered as he bent over and dipped a finger into the liquid. “My God, Jerry,” he exclaimed, “that’s blood.”

Now, from an interview with Coley on Black Op Radio in 2011:

Down, when I got nearly to the fence, a policeman in brown - we called them county mounties in Dallas - at that time, stopped me, and he had a shotgun. And Charlie was behind me. And he said, “Where do you guys think you’re going?” We said we were going back to where all these people were running, which was back towards the fence and this parking lot, that area on top of the grassy knoll. He told us to get the hell out of there, so Charlie, I guess, left me at that point. I don’t know where he went. (end quote)

In this interview, it is now Coley who discovers the pool of blood all by his lonesome, and Jim Hood who dips his finger in the blood to taste it.

Perhaps it is due to Coley's aging and losing bits of memory from that day, or perhaps the authors of Unsolved Texas Mysteries got it wrong in the first place, but none-the-less the inconsistencies are there.

Edited October 27, 2012 by Josh Cron

[Josh Cron]

Also, in the original Unsolved Texas Mysteries story, Coley says when he was interviewed by the FBI that they were the ones who first brought up the blood story to him. And he was confused about how they had known about it, as he says he, nor Mulkey or Hood, had mentioned the blood to anyone.

But in the Black Op Radio interview, Coley says he brings up the blood on the steps to the FBI.

[Robin Unger]

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Edited October 28, 2012 by Robin Unger