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Only 8 minutes before your last post I said "Gaal pretty obviously is intentionally scrambling the threads he participates in simultaneously making off topic posts on them and starting various on the same topic"

Thanks for making my point!

Len

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1) POST #3 follows and completes post #1,thus Colby WRONG. (no points for you !!)

2) New Video I found and I feel it needed its own area for the respect it deserves. No plot paranoid one.

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So what role do you think the supposed drill played in the 'plot'?

Oh and why would a company aligned with the forces of darkness (FoDa*) publish a major 'truther' book?

*translate this from Portuguese to English

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One is getting pre-bandaged people ready for cameras.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20833633/What-Happened-at-Canary-Wharf-on-7th-July-2005

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Let the facts speak for themselves

7/7 Conspiracy Theories and Connecting the Dots

by Tom Secker 7/7/12

http://globalresearc...xt=va&aid=31798 ((actually goes against Canary Wharf ideas presented above))

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http://www.investigatingtheterror.com/articles/7_7__seven__documents_that_prove_the_official_story_cannot_be_true.htm

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Evan,zealotry is in the eye of the beholder.

http://www.foxnews.c...channel-mother/

I think God is important.

http://appethics.blo...r-morality.html

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So what role do you think the supposed drill played in the 'plot'?

Oh and why would a company aligned with the forces of darkness (FoDa*) publish a major 'truther' book?

*translate this from Portuguese to English

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One is getting pre-bandaged people ready for cameras.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20833633/What-Happened-at-Canary-Wharf-on-7th-July-2005

Despite your source's claim to the contrary there is no evidence the drill was anything more than a "tabletop exercise" in fact there is no evidence it took place other than Powers' comments. Which raise an obvious question only a crank could miss if he were part of a conspiracy why would he blab about this to anyone who'd listen?

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Tabletop ? Golly ,seem there was also a 2004 Panorama program.

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http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-terror-rehearsal.html#kirstylang

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Tom Secker 7/7

Power actually said is that he was running the exercise 'for a company of a thousand people', who we later found was Reed Elsevier. According to Power, the exercise was a glorified powerpoint presentation for a small room of people, where he chose the scenario but the client chose the date and time. The scenario itself, and indeed mock news broadcasts, appear to have been lifted from the notorious 2004 Panorama: London Under Attack programme.

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http://news.bbc.co.u...ama/3686423.stm

Peter Power is Managing Director of Visor Consultants Ltd. London (www.visorconsultants.com) and author of the UK Govt. (DTI) issued guidebook 'Preventing Chaos in a Crisis'. He is also a Fellow of the Business Continuity and Chartered Management Institutes, and Emergency Planning Society.

He also took part in the recent Panorama programme discussing a major terrorist attack on London and regularly runs workshops and coaching sessions on Crisis Management

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The May 2004 edition of Panorama focused on London falling victim to a terrorist attack and, coincidentally, featured three explosions on underground trains and one explosion on a land-based transportation device, a rehearsal scenario not entirely dissimilar to Mr Power's rehearsal operation on 7th July 2005 and the apparent reality of events that day.

The BBC described Panorama's London Under Attack on their web site:

This film is a mock exercise of what might happen in London if there was a terror attack now.

In a unique fusion of drama, detailed research and expert discussion Panorama puts Britain's emergency plans to the test.

Set in the future - but only just - the city of London is thrown into chaos by a series of terrorist attacks.

The fictional day of terror unfolds through the immediacy of rolling news bringing the catastrophic attack into our living rooms.

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J7

Taking another look at Peter Power's original Radio 5 Live announcement on 7/7:

POWER: ...at half-past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for, er, over, a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright!

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PLEASE SEE THREAD LINK BELOW FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19239

The Murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher

Woman Police Constable (WPC) Yvonne Fletcher (1959–17 April 1984) was a British policewoman who was shot and killed in London's St James's Square during a protest outside the Libyan embassy. The shooting resulted in a siege at the embassy which lasted for eleven days, as well as the breakdown of diplomatic relations between the United Kingdom and Libya. She was the first policewoman to be murdered while on duty in Britain.

Eleven anti-Gadafy demonstrators were injured in the volley of gun fire. WPC Yvonne Fletcher was also shot and, although rushed to Westminster Hospital, died soon after arrival.

Peter Power was the deputy forward controller at the Libyan People's Bureau siege at which WPC Yvonne Fletcher was shot. Fletcher's murder would later become a major factor in the then prime minister Thatcher's decision to allow U.S. President Ronald Reagan to launch the USAF bombing raid on Libya in 1986 from American bases in Britain.

In April 1996, 12 years after the killing, Britain’s Channel Four flagship documentary programme Dispatches - in a massively researched broadcast, Murder at St James's, that cited credible and experienced sources - revealed that Fletcher had been murdered by elements of British and American intelligence. Disgracefully, these astonishing revelations went unreported by the media in much the same way as many crucial revelations about the events of 7th July 2005, such as Peter Power's simultaneous terror operation and the many factual inaccuracies, inconsistencies and curious anomalies in the official story of July 7th have also gone virtually, if not totally, unreported and unchallenged.

Issues raised by the Dispatches programme about the killing of WPC Fletcher were later raised in Parliament by Tam Dalyell on 8 May 1996. Mr Dalyell qualified before Parliament that the programme had been exceptionally well researched and that it had featured the statements from people whose calibre and relevant experience was beyond question or compare. Contributors to Dispatches included a senior ballistics officer of the British Army, Lieutenant Colonel George Styles, and Dr Bernard Knight, a senior and distinguished Home Office pathologist.

MP Tam Dalyell raised a total of eight separate issues in relation to the murder of WPC Fletcher, including that Yvonne Fletcher appeared to have have been shot from a different direction than that alleged; that huge discrepancies existed between the reports of pathologist Dr Ian West whose post mortem report differed significantly from his analysis presented at the inquest; and that WPC Fletcher's injuries could not have been caused by the alleged combination of gun and firing position.

When the makers of 'Murder at St James's', Fulcrum Productions, attempted to interview the pathologist, Dr Ian West, about the inconsistencies in his reports, he cancelled two appointments and then refused completely to meet.

In response to Mr Dalyell's inquiries in Parliament, the Minister of State for the Home Office, David Maclean, dismissed the Dispatches programme simply as "preposterous trash".

The ongoing controversy surrounding Fletcher's death resulted in the current prime minister, Tony Blair, being questioned by former MP Tam Dalyell in parliament on 24 June 1997. Mr Dalyell received a similarly unenthusiastic response from the State as he had on previous occasions. In 1998, 14 years after the killing, the murder of WPC Fletcher was still being cited as the sole reason for maintaining trade sanctions against Libya by Jack Straw on behalf of the Labour government.

Following the shooting of WPC Fletcher, the then Home Secretary, Leon Brittan, immediately ordered an investigation. The results of that investigation have never been divulged to the British public and have remained one of many State secrets kept from the public.

Perhaps the deputy forward controller at the Libyan People's Bureau siege, Peter Power, might able to shed some light on exactly what happened in the case of the killing of WPC Yvonne Fletcher, as well as during his terror rehearsal operation in London on 7th July 2005.

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1) POST #3 follows and completes post #1

2) New Video I found and I feel it needed its own area for the respect it deserves

3) New stonger links in post #8 counter first post this thread on one issue , =((actually goes against Canary Wharf ideas presented above)).Best to put this PRO/Anti Canary Wharf on this thread. Now OTHER 7/7 THREAD concentrates on Reed Elsevier and neocon connections.

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Still no evidence the exercise was anything more than a tabletop one essentially a PowerPoint presentation.

Thanks for pointing out the BBC program it could be that both Power and the terrorists used it as a model. You finally sank the silly speculation about the odds. You deserve the Andreas Escobar Own Goal Award.

So how exactly do you think the exercise furthered the plot?

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1) POST #3 follows and completes post #1

2) New Video I found and I feel it needed its own area for the respect it deserves

3) New stonger links in post #8 counter first post this thread on one issue , =((actually goes against Canary Wharf ideas presented above)).Best to put this PRO/Anti Canary Wharf on this thread. Now OTHER 7/7 THREAD concentrates on Reed Elsevier and neocon connections.

Can you sum up what you think these sources demonstrate?

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SPIV 911forum.org.uk

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7/7 was the greatest crime on UK soil, but I would contend that 9/11 was the crime of the century, followed, of course, by the two illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq!!

Regarding the crime of 7/7, Peter Power has stated on the BBC 'Editors' blog that the exercise he was conducting was for a publishing company Reed Elsevier (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/06/controversy_and_conspira cies_2.html#commentsanchor ). Of course, this is assuming that this comment was posted by the real Peter Power.

But why would a publishing company wish to run a 'terrorist' exercise?? If they were worried about the effects of disruption for their staff coming to work, wouldn't one do a transport strike, or power failure, especially as no Islamic terrorist attack had occurred before. I think that Power needs to explain more, and failure to do so can only fuel reasonable speculation as to his involvement in this.

Most mysterious, as indeed is everything surrounding these so called 'terrorist attacks'

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There is no 7/7 Reed Elsiver book. The company is a deeply inteligence connected on the neocon prowar and anti-civilrights viewpoints. Why have this exercise presentation ?? They selected TIME/DATE/Subway expolsion scenario. ANSWER BELOW

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http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31798

As I explained in two conversations with the incomparable James Corbett, one on 7/7 and one specifically on predictive programming, the BBC programming before 7/7 pre-empted not just the official conspiracy theory, but also many of the alternative conspiracy theories.

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http://www.investigatingtheterror.com/audio/Interrogating_the_Programming___A_Conversation_with_James_Corbett.htm

Fundamentally, what we found in this conversation is that not just conspiracy-themed entertainment, but also a range of reality TV shows have the consquences of normalising the security services, of normalising the National Security State. They also lead people into a mental state of paranoid voyeurism and constant suspicion. One of the responses to this state is to understand the phenomenon of predictive programming, and of propagandistic programming in general. In learning about these subjects it will be instructive to read Guy Debord's Comments on the Society of the Spectacle, here, his reflections on his own masterwork two decades after it was published.

http://libcom.org/library/comments-society-spectacle

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  • 3 years later...

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13 holes in government & media account of 2005 London Bombings

Tony Gosling
RINF Alternative News

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1. Train the alleged bombers are supposed to have caught from Luton was cancelled that day

2. Benjamin Netanyahu who was in London that day and Israeli embassy had a warning before the ‘surprise attack’ bombings according to AP journalist Amy Tiebel and Israeli embassy spokesperson Dan Sheham

3. After speaking to scores of survivors that day Guardian’s Mark Honigsbaum describes bombs were ‘under the carriage of a train’

4. French anti-terrorism expert Christophe Chaboud said tube train bombs were so powerful they were almost certainly C4 military explosives not home made TATP

5. Peter Power ‘terror drills’ at same three tube stations on same day, which he himself describes a ‘spooky coincidence’? Only about one in eight billion chance Peter Power is telling the truth.

6. Peter power’s drills were commissioned by Reed Elsevier, event organisers of Britain’s biggest annual arms fair, Exel in docklands.

7. Chemical and Biological attack police drills going on before the attacks that morning.

8. Despite hundreds of CCTV cameras, no CCTV images of any of four alleged bombers getting on to or on any of four tube trains or bus

9. Daniel Obachike says he was on the no. 30 bus believes he identified the bomber who was a white male, and that alleged bomber Hasib Hussain was not on his bus.

10. No trial because bombers are dead but Lady justice Hallett’s 2010 inquest into the 7/7 attacks was designed for a single death and held without a jury.

11. Victims’ families stonewalled: questions were not answered by the inquests, families were not allowed to have legal representation at the inquests.

12. Potential mastermind, Islamist organiser Al-Muhajiroun’s Haroon Aswat who spoke to the bombers in the days running up to the attacks is believed to have been working for MI6 and was never interviewed about 7/7, instead shipped out of UK legal jurisdiction.

Ten Years Ago: London 7/7 Bombing Terror Suspect Linked to British Intelligence

http://www.globalresearch.ca/london-7-7-terror-suspect-linked-to-british-intelligence/782

13. Alleged bombers Mohamed Siddique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were given terrorism training via Iqra bookshop in Beeston, Leeds by former Royal Navy Special Boat Service (SBS) soldier Martin McDaid

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Anniversary of London 7/7 terrorist bombings: clip of London Underground control room staff discussing possible explosion on London underground; clip Mark Honigsbaum – Guardian journalist on the scene of 7/7 Edgware Road – bombs under train; powerful military grade explosives; Peter Power terror drill – clip of him discussing spooky coincidence of 3 stations being the same; terror drills and false flags; clip of civil servant who’s worked for MoD and NHS Paul Oweson discussing chemical, biological exercises he saw on the day; no CCTV pictures of any alleged bombers on or getting on bombed tubes or buses on 7/7; clip of Daniel Obachike who says was on number 30 bus that was bombed; clip from ‘Ludicrous Diversion’ – independent inquiry needed; clip of families at press conference saying their questions haven’t been answered; clip of Graham Foulkes lost his 22 year old son David in the 7/7 attacks – terrorists not clean skins. Fran Anderson special 7/7 report on bookshop where two alleged bombers were trustees: Mohamed Siddique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, two alleged bombers, were trustees of Iqra Learning Centre and bookshop in Bude Road, Beeston, Leeds. It was run by day-to-day by Martin McDaid, an (ex?) Special Boat Service (SBS) RN Special Forces ‘Muslim convert’. He also ran a terrorist training camp in the Lake District in which Khan is known to have attended; BBC Newsnight reported that youth worker at Iqra, Mark Hargreaves, says McDaid had a hidden agenda in grooming young Muslim men in terrorist skills and the bookshop received six-figure sums in government and EU grants.

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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog
7/7 Inquests: Examining and documenting the proceedings of the Coroner’s Inquest into the London Bombings of 7 July 2005, including analysis of the hearing transcripts and the evidence presented.

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http://77inquests.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/mcdaid-who.html

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