Nancy Carole Tyler

[Robert Morrow]

On 12/23/2004 at 9:50 AM, John Simkin said:

I recently discovered that three senators, Carl T. Curtis, John Williams and Hugh Scott made strenuous attempts to expose the Bobby Baker scandal. The LBJ tapes reveal that he was able to blackmail Williams and Scott into silence (they had both been recorded doing things at the Quorum Club). However, it is clear from the tapes that they were unable to dig up any dirt on Curtis. Therefore, in theory he was free to say what he knew about the case. Searching on the web I discovered that Curtis died on 24th January, 2000. However, I was delighted to discover that he published a book on his attempts to bring an end to corruption in Congress: Forty Years Against the Tide (1986). I ordered the book from Adsrus Books (Des Moines) and it arrived this morning. It contains a lot of interesting information that helps us understand the Grant Stockdale case and the whole issue of Bobby Baker. He also has a lot to say about Billie Sol Estes.

Curtis was a member of the Senate Rules Committee that interviewed Don Reynolds in secret on the day that JFK was assassinated. He remained on the Senate Rules Committee and spent two years trying to get the case investigated. Curtis admits that most of the information against Baker came from John Williams. According to Burkett Van Kirk, the lawyer who worked with Williams on this case, this information came from Robert Kennedy, who had leaked it in 1963 in an attempt to get LBJ dropped as vice president.

Curtis also reveals that much of the information on Baker came from a “bug” placed in Fred Black’s Washington hotel room in 1963 on instructions from RFK.

In his book Curtis reveals what went on behind closed doors on the Senate Rules Committee. The committee was made up of B. Everett Jordan (chairman and a man fully under the control of LBJ), Carl Hayden, Claiborne Pell, Joseph Clark, Howard Cannon and Robert Byrd. The three Republicans were Sherman Cooper (also on the Warren Commission), Hugh Scott and Carl Curtis.

The secret testimony of Don Reynolds on the day that JFK was assassinated led to other people being interviewed. This included Carole Tyler, Baker’s secretary. It became clear that she had handled funds involved in the bribing of politicians. She had also travelled several times to Los Angeles on Serve-U Corporation business. Tyler was called before the committee but she refused to answer questions in case she incriminated herself.

Curtis wanted to interview Margaret Broome, who had also been employed by Baker as a secretary. It seems that she could not be relied on to keep quiet. As a result, the six Democrats voted against allowing her to appear.

After the election Curtis tried again to persuade the Senate Rules Committee to try interviewing Tyler again. They refused. Even though they had evidence that she took part in bribing and corrupting members of the Senate.

Curtis was still fighting to get Tyler interviewed when she was killed in the accident close to Baker's hotel. Curtis is one of those who did not believe it was an accident.

In reference to the Senate Rules Committee - Robert Kennedy was working with the Republicans on the Senate Rules Committee to destroy LBJ because the Democrats were too much in LBJ's pocket. Sen. John Sherman Cooper, a liberal Republican and a close friend of JFK, while he was on the Warren Commission WAS CONVINCED THAT LYNDON JOHNSON WAS BEHIND THE JFK ASSASSINATION as he told his aide Morris Wolff. That extremely important nugget on Sen. Cooper has only come out in the past few years with the publication of Morris Wolff's autobiography.

Seymour Hersh was one of multiple people to interview Burkett van Kirk, the Republican counsel for the Senate Rules Committee, who confirmed IN FACT the Kennedys were out to destroy LBJ in the fall of 1963. At the very moment of the JFK assassination, Burkett van Kirk was taking testimony from DON REYNOLDS, formerly a close Bobby Baker ally, on the topic of Lyndon Johnson taking kickbacks. 

After the JFK assassination, Lyndon Johnson used the powers of the government to harass, intimidate and ultimately terrify DON REYNOLDS into leaving the USA for several years. According to Reynolds family members: HOOVER CALLED DON REYNOLDS AND TOLD HIM YOU NEED TO THE COUNTRY OR LYNDON JOHNSON IS GOING TO HAVE YOU KILLED. This will be coming out in a new book by Robert Reynolds Nelson, a currently age 70-year-old nephew of Don Reynolds.

Robert Reynolds Nelson three years ago put in a FOIA request for the FBI documents on Don Reynolds and found there are 17,000 pages of FBI documents relating to Don Reynolds and THE GOVERNMENT IS REFUSING TO RELEASE EVEN ONE PAGE of these documents!!!

Robert Reynolds Nelson's book on his uncle Don Reynolds will be coming out in fall 2024 and will be published by Trine Day.

Sen. John Sherman Cooper, while he was a member of the Warren Commission: “I think Lyndon Baines Johnson was involved in the planning and execution of Kennedy’s death.” Source: his aide Morris Wolff (born 11-30-1936 and still alive in March, 2024)

Morris Wolff contact info: phone 352-753-0105 and email is moewolff657@gmail.com

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He was still by something that had just occurred, and he sputtered, “They have it all wrong. They refuse to look at the facts. The forensics are right there. One bullet came in from the front, and the President grabbed his neck, and his head shot back in the open limousine. The car had slowed down in front of the Texas School Depository. The next shot came in from the back, from a window on the 7^th floor, the top floor of the Book Depository building on Dealey Plaza. A third shot came from behind the motorcade, jerking his head backward as he slowly passed the area. It was the shot fired by Lee Harvey Oswald, one of two or three killers. At least two were active that day, one from in front and the second from the back. The forensics clearly show there were at least two separate shooters, and they were standing in different places, one from the grassy knoll and one high in the office building. Our new President, Lyndon Baines Johnson, now wants to cover up and move on. I want to delay and get all the facts. They are covering the facts and putting their collective heads in the sand. LBJ pretends to give me the green light to press forward with the investigation. But he is secretly telling the others to bring the hearings to a quick close.”

Senator Cooper was boiling mad, somewhat out of control for the only time that I had ever witnessed. “They want to bury the truth under a pile of stones. I think Lyndon Baines Johnson was involved in the planning and execution of Kennedy’s death.”

As his driver to and from the Warren Commission hearings, I got to hear the latest scoop on the way back. I was not just his legal counsel but also had become “Maxie the Taxi.” Cooper selected me to convey him to and from the Supreme Court building for the hearings headed by Earl Warren, and that was a lesson van.

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[Morris Wolff, Lucky Conversations: Visits With the Most Prominent People of the 20^th Century, p. 112]

John Sherman Cooper tells why he did not believe the Magic Bullet Theory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKtp8xJq65U&t=4s

About Morris Wolff:

[Morris Wolff, Lucky Conversations: Visits With the Most Prominent People of the 20^th Century, p. 112] Lucky Conversations: Visits With the Most Prominent People of the 20th Century: Morris Wolff, Karen Weber: 9781622495986: Amazon.com: Books

Amazon:

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Author Morris Wolff was an agent of change. He established the first international AIESEC Secretariat in Geneva in 1960 with exchanges in 33 member nations. Morris worked closely in 1963 in the Oval Office with President John F. Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy in writing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and getting it passed in the U.S. Senate with John Sherman Cooper of Kentucky.

Morris Wolff remains a man of wisdom and purpose, courage, integrity, and stamina and he gets things done. Morris is a man constantly on the move whose incredible life story of perseverance and a positive mental attitude you will enjoy. He is a forward person who loves to reach out and meet new people and hold meaningful and enjoyable conversations. His ingenuity led to his impromptu meeting in Ghana, with President Kwame Nkrumah and Patrice Lumumba of the Congo in 1960. He met with Nelson Mandela in prison in South Africa in 1993. He later helped negotiate the peaceful transition of power from Prime Minister Willem de Klerk to President Nelson Mandela without a single drop of bloodshed or violence.

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Burkett van Kirk confirms that Robert Kennedy was feeding damaging information on Lyndon Johnson's corruption to the Senate Rules Committee in fall, 1963, in attempt to destroy LBJ. The Kennedys were working with the Republicans on the Senate Rules Committee (Sen. John Sherman Cooper in particular) to take down LBJ because LBJ was too close to the Democrats on the Rules Committee

 

 SEYMOUR HERSH:

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           In a series of interviews for this book, Burkett Van Kirk, who was chief counsel in 1963 for the Republican minority on the Rules Committee, told me of his personal knowledge of Bobby Kennedy's direct intervention. "Bobby was feeding information to 'whispering Willie'" - the nickname for Senator John Williams. "They" - the Kennedy brothers, Van Kirk said - "were dumping Johnson.." Williams, as he did earlier with Donald Reynolds's information about Lyndon Johnson, relayed the Kennedy materials to the senior Republican on the Rules Committe, Carl Curtis. The attorney general thus was secretly dealing with Williams, and Williams was dealing secretly with Curtis and Van Kirk. The scheming was necessary, Van Kirk told me, because he and his fellow Republicans understood that a full-fledged investigation into Bobby Baker could lead to the vice president. They also understood, he said, that the chances of getting such an investigation where slim at best. The Democrats had an overwhelming advantage in the Senate - sixty-seven to thirty-three - and in every committee. The three Republicans on the ten member Rules Committee, Van Kirk said, had little power. "We never won one vote to even call a witness," he told me. The investigation into Bobby Baker and Lyndon Johnson would have to be done in a traditional manner - by newspaper leak.

           Van Kirk, who was named after his grandfather Senator E. J. Burkett of Nebraska, said that Bobby Kennedy eventually designated a Justice Department lawyer that fall to serve as an intermediary to the minority staff; he began supplying the Republicans with documents about Johnson and his financial dealings. The lawyer, Van Kirk told me, "used to come up to the Senate and hang around me like a dark cloud. It took him about a week or ten days to, one, find out what I didn't know, and two, give it to me." Some of the Kennedy-supplied documents were kept in Williams's office safe, Van Kirk said, and never shown to him. There was no doubt of Bobby Kennedy's purpose in dealing with the Republicans, Van Kirk said: "To get rid of Johnson. To dump him. I am as sure of that the sun comes up in the east."

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 [Seymour Hersh, The Dark Side of Camelot, pp. 406-407]

 Burkett Van Kirk on how Don Reynolds had the proof of Lyndon Johnson’s corruption as he testified to a closed session of the Senate Rules Committee in the morning of November 22, 1963.

 Van Kirk was interviewed in the History Channel’s documentary LBJ vs. The Kennedys: Chasing Demons and it aired on June 1, 2003.

 Burkett Van Kirk:

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 Don presented a good case. He could back it up. Everything he had, he had a receipt for. It’s hard to argue with a receipt. Or a cancelled check. Or an invoice. It’s hard to argue with documentation.

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 [Burkett van Kirk in the History Channel’s LBJ vs. The Kennedys: Chasing Demons, 2003] also in [Robert Caro, Passage of Power, p. 664]

 Robert Caro on the Senate Rules Committee investigation into Bobby Baker and Lyndon Johnson

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 Mollenhoff, the Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter for the Des Moines Register was, in Novemer 1963, working closely – and on virtually a daily basis – with Senator Williams and the Rules Committee staff. He was to write that “It was a few minutes before 10 A.M. when Reynolds and Fitzgerald were escorted to Room 312, where two committee staff members (Van Kirk and Drennan) waited.” Mollenhoff was to report that “in the first two hours, the questioning ranged over the whole scope of Baker’s financial operations,” including those concerning the District of Columbia Stadium (Mollenhoff, Despoilers of Democracy, pp. 295-97).

          The journalist Sy Hersh had a series of interviews with Van Kirk, and writes that “at ten o’clock” Reynolds walked with his lawyer into a small hearing room… and began providing … Van Kirk … with eagerly awaited evidence” (Hersh, Dark Side of Camelot, p. 446). Senator Carl Curtis of Nebraska, the ranking Republican member of the Rules Committee, who was told in 1963 about Reynolds’s testimony by Van Kirk, confirmed that Reynolds had provided  documentation. Also Curtis Files, Curtis Papers; Curtis interview. Mollenhoff, Despoilers of Democracy, pp. 295-98; Rowe, The Bobby Baker Story, pp. 84-86; Steinberg, Sam Johnson’s Boy, pp. 602, 611.

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 [Robert Caro, Passage of Power, pp. 664-665]