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The building has undergone substantial renovation over the years - but does anyone know what was behind the decorative facade on the street level? Was that a parking garage? Basement? Or was it just decoration in front of a brick wall? Thanks.

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The building has undergone substantial renovation over the years - but does anyone know what was behind the decorative facade on the street level? Was that a parking garage? Basement? Or was it just decoration in front of a brick wall? Thanks.

I'm guessing the Sixth Floor Museum is behind the first floor facade.

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Even the floor is a lie.

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Guest Mark Valenti

I heard from Mr. Mack who said that the windows we see now are the same windows from '63.

But as I look at photos from '63, there's a decorative facade in front of the windows. It doesn't seem possible to tell, from the street, what's going on beyond the facade.

That means a first floor window could have been open and occupied by a shooter without being seen from anyone in the street - ??

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The decorative concrete blocks had been removed when the county remodeled the

building. As I recall, Oliver Stone had them temporarily replaced for filming, and

then had to remove them again.

Jack

Thanks for that. I have heard further that the angle from a first floor window would have been impossible for several reasons - chiefly the human wall of onlookers.

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The decorative concrete blocks had been removed when the county remodeled the

building. As I recall, Oliver Stone had them temporarily replaced for filming, and

then had to remove them again.

Jack

Thanks for that. I have heard further that the angle from a first floor window would have been impossible for several reasons - chiefly the human wall of onlookers.

Hi Mark.

I seem to recall Gary Mack telling me once, that there was a basement in the TSBD. ?

I also recall seeing a photo of inside the first floor, i will try and find it.

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The WC released a few of the floor plans. They were lettered and the lettering indicates there was a floor A which would have been the basement. Whether the elevator went to the basement I don't know.

(image: collage of the floor plans with the 'missing ones' assumed)

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The first floor is raised above street level (remember the front steps!). The ground floor

is a "partial basement". Back in the 70s Robert Cutler and I were "touring" the empty

building, and went down there...but couldn't see much because it was rather dark and

there was no electricity at that time. I seem to remember that the Hertz sign had been

stored down there.

Jack

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In this WC photo of the dock it appears to show a " basement window" or a " goods ramp" just near the boot of the car.

In the place i used to work at in the 70's we had a similar opening on our building, it contained a conveyor belt to take HEAVY rolls of cable and such, down to our basement were it would be stored.

photo showing the approx basement level on houston st.

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Guest Mark Valenti

Still looking for any evidence that police searched the basement. So far I'm finding only references to people running around upstairs.

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