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No, No list, no info on background or what became of cops.

Peter Dale Scott's book that you mention also has references not checked, like the law enforcement information network out of California, that still keeps files they share with police intell units.

But Captain Gannaway and Revell were the two who were in charge of intelligence unit and their men were most likely all trained Army Reservists.

They may have filed affidativits or reports that I haven't checked and may be here:

Find index of entire database here:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/data.htm

Then do edit-search to find a name. Also in searchable pdf format:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/image_index1.pdf

Then view documents here:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/

Yes , the City of Dallas online achives do contain documents regarding the duty assignments of the DPD and the intersections they were assigned to on the parade router.

go here ----> http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/32/3296-006.gif

and then it is easiest to change the 6 in the url to see the other documents, or search each individual archive box.

9. Report to Chief J. E. Curry, by Charles Batchelor. Lists assignments of DPD personnel for the visit of the President, (Photocopy), date unknown. 00003296 15 pages 14 04 009 3296-001.gif 3296-002.gif 3296-003.gif 3296-004.gif 3296-005.gif 3296-006.gif 3296-007.gif 3296-008.gif 3296-009.gif 3296-010.gif 3296-011.gif 3296-012.gif 3296-013.gif 3296-014.gif 3296-015.gif

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No, No list, no info on background or what became of cops.

Peter Dale Scott's book that you mention also has references not checked, like the law enforcement information network out of California, that still keeps files they share with police intell units.

But Captain Gannaway and Revell were the two who were in charge of intelligence unit and their men were most likely all trained Army Reservists.

They may have filed affidativits or reports that I haven't checked and may be here:

Find index of entire database here:

Then do edit-search to find a name. Also in searchable pdf format:

Then view documents here:

Yes , the City of Dallas online achives do contain documents regarding the duty assignments of the DPD and the intersections they were assigned to on the parade router.

go here ----> http://jfk.ci.dallas...32/3296-006.gif

and then it is easiest to change the 6 in the url to see the other documents, or search each individual archive box.

9. Report to Chief J. E. Curry, by Charles Batchelor. Lists assignments of DPD personnel for the visit of the President, (Photocopy), date unknown. 00003296 15 pages 14 04 009 3296-001.gif 3296-002.gif 3296-003.gif 3296-004.gif 3296-005.gif 3296-006.gif 3296-007.gif 3296-008.gif 3296-009.gif 3296-010.gif 3296-011.gif 3296-012.gif 3296-013.gif 3296-014.gif 3296-015.gif

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No, No list, no info on background or what became of cops.

Peter Dale Scott's book that you mention also has references not checked, like the law enforcement information network out of California, that still keeps files they share with police intell units.

But Captain Gannaway and Revell were the two who were in charge of intelligence unit and their men were most likely all trained Army Reservists.

They may have filed affidativits or reports that I haven't checked and may be here:

Find index of entire database here:

Then do edit-search to find a name. Also in searchable pdf format:

Then view documents here:

Yes , the City of Dallas online achives do contain documents regarding the duty assignments of the DPD and the intersections they were assigned to on the parade router.

go here ----> http://jfk.ci.dallas...32/3296-006.gif

and then it is easiest to change the 6 in the url to see the other documents, or search each individual archive box.

9. Report to Chief J. E. Curry, by Charles Batchelor. Lists assignments of DPD personnel for the visit of the President, (Photocopy), date unknown. 00003296 15 pages 14 04 009 3296-001.gif 3296-002.gif 3296-003.gif 3296-004.gif 3296-005.gif 3296-006.gif 3296-007.gif 3296-008.gif 3296-009.gif 3296-010.gif 3296-011.gif 3296-012.gif 3296-013.gif 3296-014.gif 3296-015.gif

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In reading the HSCA testimony of Col. Jones, it is interesting that he claims that there were eight to a dozen Army Intelligence officers in plain clothes working in Dallas on the day of the assassination, including Powell, who said that he was not working officially but took off that day and was there on his own.

Another Army Intel officer who was working, Coyne, was at the breakfast with ATF agent and Hosty discussing the Masen gun case.

Also significant, I think, is Jones failure to even know the identity of Whitemyer, the US Army Reserve Officer who Limpkin invited to sit in the Pilot Car at the last minute.

Whitemeyer was with the 488th, an Army Reserve Unit with many Dallas police officers, that was apparently primarily a training outfit for the Dallas area.

Jones on the other hand, was the commander of the US Army 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston from June 1963 to 1965, which encompases

and area that includes Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma and other states in the Southwest.

Although both the regular US Army and the US Army Reserves are under the Department of Defense, they are essentially two different armies, one an active command,

the other a Reserve Unit that is only called up for active duty when needed, the Weekend Warriors as they are called.

It's still hard to believe that Jones, the commander of the 112th, wouldn't know the commander of the 488th, which is in his district.

http://www.jfklancer...RobertJones.htm

lhttp://www.history-m...jones_0001a.htm

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See post How did the police first learn of 1026 N. Beckley? By Steve Thomas

[/url] http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2331

and from PDS's Deep Politics & the Death of JFK:

p. 276 The Plot and the Coverup – Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by PDS

...two minutes earlier by Jack Alston Crichton, a right-wing Republican, oil operator, member of Army Intelligence Reserve (9 WH 106), and head of "a local Army Intelligence Unit" (WCD 386, SS 1058). Crichton knew Mamantov personally as a fellow petroleum geologist. He also knew him because Mamantov was a precinct chairman o the Republican party, for which Crichton became the 1964 candidate for governor of Texas.

It is not known how many Dallas policemen were also (as is apparently a widespread practice) members of the U.S. Army Reserve. One such reservist was Detective Adamik (7 WH 203), a member of the party which retrieved the rifle-blanket from the Paine garage and later reported what he overheard at Mamantov's interview of Marina about the rifle ("She said that it looked like her husband's rifle. She said that it was dark"; 24 WH291). Another member of Army Intelligence Reserve was Captain W. P. Gannaway, Revill's supervisor as head of the Dallas Police Special Service Bureau (WCD 1426.26; 19 WH 120); Gannaway's secretary was reported by an out-of-town police chief to be "closely connected" to Jack Ruby (WCD 86.151). This story was plausible, given the close connection between Ruby and the SSB, including men who participated in the search of the TSBD and the arrest of Oswald. Since the protection of visiting dignitaries was one of the SSB's responsibilities (5 WH48), Gannaway was involved in the meetings arranged by Secret Service advance man Winston Lawson for the Kennedy visit (5 WH39; 7 WH 580).

According to a news story in FBI files, in 1963 both Captain Gannaway and his subordinate Lieutenant Revill were assigned a special responsibility for "espionage and subversive activities" in Dallas. This was in conjunction with

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, military intelligence teams from the army, navy, and air force, and other federal agencies with investigators operating from headquarters here…The job of [Revill's] intelligence section in Capt. Gannaway's bureau…requires the closest cooperation with these other governmental agencies gathering intelligence on subversive groups suspected of espionage…With membership in a national police intelligence organization known as LEIU (Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) the local officers are able to get information almost immediately on suspected subversives when they move into Dallas. This information is exchanged by police units as these persons move from city to city…Employes in [industrial] plants are carefully screened by security conscious personnel officers, and in key jobs are given strict government security clearances. Industry is taking great strides to upgrade security practices. One such group in this area is the American Society for Industrial Security. 10

The possibility that Oswald was an informant for this centralized security team would explain his visit to the Dallas American Civil Liberties Union, a liberal group being investigated by Revill's intelligence section, in the company of an extreme right-winger (Michael Paine). 11.

One can see how easily a false legend for Oswald could have been generated in the shared files of this coordinated security campaign, involving the Dallas SSB, FBI, military intelligence, and the American Society for Industrial Security. Such a centralized file system could be the source for the recurring (and unexplained) inversion of Oswald's name, as Harvey Lee Oswald, in the files of the Dallas police (e.g., 19 WH 438, 24 WH 259), FBI (e.g., 23 WH 207, 23 WH 373), Secret Service (16 WH 721, 748), army intelligence, and navy intelligence. 12.

The most intriguing "Harvey Lee Oswald" document is Jack Revill's list of employees at the Texas School Book Depository, compiled right after the assassination, before Oswald had been apprehended for the Tippit murder. For some unexplained reason, Oswald's inverted name ("Harvey Lee Oswald") was at the very head of that list, accompanied by an address, "605 Elsbeth," that slightly misrepresented the address (602 Elsbeth) where he had resided a year earlier (24 WH 259). 13 The Elsbeth address does suggest that Oswald's data had been parked for some time before the assassination in an intelligence file, not hitherto identified. One possibility would be the files of the LEIU, the Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit, the intercity police-intelligence organization of which Revill as the lead local representative. LEIU's files, unlike ordinary police files, cannot be given to any civilian authorities and are treated as exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. As we shall see, it was also a frequent practice for the LEIU member intelligence units to collaborate with army intelligence. 14.

Another army reserve officer in Dealey plaza may have been Winston Lawson, the White House Secret Service agent responsible for the choice of the Kennedy motorcade route (4 WH 318). Lawson's first three reports of what happened on and before November 22 raise considerable questions about his performance…… [emphasis added by T. Graves]

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Tom, I stumbled upon this, last night.:

Joseph N. Welch was with Hale & Dorr from 1923. After posting about Paul F. Hellmuth last night, and influenced by much of my other research, which all began with my reading the name Lester Crown, linked to Obama, is whether it is possible that Lester's brother-in-law, G. David Schine, was sheep dipped before LHO was?

https://www.google.com/search?q=judith+welch+circuit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#q=judith+wife+joseph+welch+1917&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=0IJ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1960,cd_max:1960&tbm=nws&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=53QHT7iLFc6Ctgee17zQBg&sqi=2&ved=0CBUQpwUoCQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=55cbca7ddf115177&biw=1173&bih=734

Joseph Welch Dies At

Meriden Record - Oct 7, 1960

His wife was at this bedside when death came un expectedly in Cape Cod ... first He married Judith Lyndon in 1917 The couple had two sons Joseph and Lyndon, ...

Wilkes County, Georgia - Marriages 1792-1925 (Updegraff - Wilhite)

http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/vitals/marriages/marr21.shtml

Welch, Joseph N. Lyndon, Judith Hampton, 20-Sep-1917. Welch, Rebecca, Raines, Henry, 25-Mar-1807. Wellborn, Abner, Render, Patsy, 22-Jul-1810 ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=elsie+mae+gordon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#q=elsie+mae+gordon&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=vjy&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&tbm=nws&prmd=imvnso&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=bnYHT7CgJoODtgf6xtjQBg&ved=0CBMQpwUoCg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=55cbca7ddf115177&biw=1173&bih=736

Lyndon-gordon Company Coming .

Portsmouth Daily Times - Apr 10, 1917

LYNDON-GORDON COMPANY COMING . Thursday .veiling April 12 eighth number of the high ... comnaiiv composed of Judith Hampton Lyndon and Elsie Mae Gordon.

ELSIE MAE GORDON, RADIO, TV ACTRESS; Veteran of 1000 Roles...

New York Times - Jan 20, 1951

Elsie Mae Gordon, actress, who played more than 1000 radio roles, died Thursday night of cancer in Post-Graduate Hospital. She began her radio career with ...

Welch's wife's brochure influences me to think that Welch would have been aware through her, of V.P. of the Confederacy, Alexander "Little Alek" Stephens, and his loyal secretary, William H. Hidell, father of Alexander Stephens Hidell.:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17989&view=findpost&p=231505

http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/traveling-culture/chau1/pdf/lyndon/1/brochure.pdf

6649380457_42c79a75e7_z.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=judith+hampton+lyndon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

The two of us: Judith Hampton Lyndon and Elsie Mae Gordon ...

digital.lib.uiowa.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/tc...

this collection all collections. Digital Library Services | Contact Staff · Iowa Digital Library. Traveling Culture - Circuit Chautauqua in the Twentieth Century .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_Georgia

Washington (originally called Heard's Fort) is a city in Wilkes County, Georgia, United States. The population was 4,295 at the 2000 census. The city is the county seat of Wilkes County[3]. The city is often referred to as Washington-Wilkes by locals, distinguishing it from any other Washington in the United States.

Washington has a number of restored antebellum, Victorian, and colonial homes along the narrow, tree-lined streets. Washington claims to have more antebellum homes per capita than any other city of its size in Georgia[citation needed]. Several sites in Washington are on the National Register of Historic Places including the Wilkes County Courthouse, the Robert Toombs State Historic Site, ...

...On April 3, 1865, with Union troops under Ulysses S. Grant poised to capture Richmond, Jefferson Davis escaped for Danville, Virginia, together with the Confederate cabinet. After leaving Danville, and continuing south, Davis met with his Confederate Cabinet for the last time on May 5, 1865 in Washington, Ga....

...Confederate Gold

One of Washington's most lingering mysteries is that of the lost Confederate gold [3]. As the last recorded location of the remaining confederate gold, Washington, and the surrounding countryside, is thought to be the site where the remaining gold is buried. Worth roughly $100,000 in 1865, when it disappeared, in today's dollars its worth would be around one million dollars. The cable channel A & E produced a documentary of this Washington legend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Toombs

Robert Augustus Toombs (July 2, 1810 – December 15, 1885) was an American political leader, United States Senator from Georgia, 1st Secretary of State of the Confederacy, and a Confederate general in the Civil War.

Early life

Born near Washington, Wilkes County, Georgia, Robert Augustus Toombs was the fifth child of Catherine Huling and Robert Toombs. His father died when he was five, and he entered Franklin College at the University of Georgia in Athens when he was just fourteen. ....

Final years

When the Confederacy finally collapsed in 1865, Toombs barely escaped arrest by Union troops and went into hiding until he fled to Cuba on November 4, and then to London and Paris. He returned to the United States via Canada in 1867. Because he refused to request a pardon from Congress, he never regained his American citizenship. He did restore his lucrative law practice as an "unreconstructed" southerner. In addition, he dominated the Georgia constitutional convention of 1877, where once again he demonstrated the political skill and temperament that earlier had earned him a reputation as one of Georgia's most effective leaders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_H._Stephens

Alexander Hamilton Stephens (February 11, 1812 – March 4, 1883) was an American politician from Georgia. He was Vice President of the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War.

....Stephens and fellow Georgia Representative Robert Toombs campaigned for the election of Zachary Taylor as President in 1848. Both were chagrined and angered when Taylor proved less than pliable on aspects of the Compromise of 1850. Stephens and Toombs both supported the Compromise of 1850 though they opposed the exclusion of slavery from the territories on the theory that such lands belonged to all of the people. The pair returned to Georgia to secure support for the measures at home. Both men were instrumental in the drafting and approval of the Georgia Platform, which rallied Unionists throughout the Deep South.

Not only were Stephens and Toombs political allies, but they were lifelong friends. Stephens was described as "a highly sensitive young man of serious and joyless habits of consuming ambition, of poverty-fed pride, and of morbid preoccupation within self," a contrast to the "robust, wealthy, and convivial Toombs. But this strange camaraderie endured with singular accord throughout their lives."[3]...

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Tom, I stumbled upon this, last night.:

Joseph N. Welch was with Hale & Dorr from 1923. After posting about Paul F. Hellmuth last night, and influenced by much of my other research, which all began with my reading the name Lester Crown, linked to Obama, is whether it is possible that Lester's brother-in-law, G. David Schine, was sheep dipped before LHO was?

https://www.google.com/search?q=judith+welch+circuit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#q=judith+wife+joseph+welch+1917&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=0IJ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1960,cd_max:1960&tbm=nws&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=53QHT7iLFc6Ctgee17zQBg&sqi=2&ved=0CBUQpwUoCQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=55cbca7ddf115177&biw=1173&bih=734

Joseph Welch Dies At

Meriden Record - Oct 7, 1960

His wife was at this bedside when death came un expectedly in Cape Cod ... first He married Judith Lyndon in 1917 The couple had two sons Joseph and Lyndon, ...

Wilkes County, Georgia - Marriages 1792-1925 (Updegraff - Wilhite)

http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/vitals/marriages/marr21.shtml

Welch, Joseph N. Lyndon, Judith Hampton, 20-Sep-1917. Welch, Rebecca, Raines, Henry, 25-Mar-1807. Wellborn, Abner, Render, Patsy, 22-Jul-1810 ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=elsie+mae+gordon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#q=elsie+mae+gordon&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=vjy&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&tbm=nws&prmd=imvnso&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=bnYHT7CgJoODtgf6xtjQBg&ved=0CBMQpwUoCg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=55cbca7ddf115177&biw=1173&bih=736

Lyndon-gordon Company Coming .

Portsmouth Daily Times - Apr 10, 1917

LYNDON-GORDON COMPANY COMING . Thursday .veiling April 12 eighth number of the high ... comnaiiv composed of Judith Hampton Lyndon and Elsie Mae Gordon.

ELSIE MAE GORDON, RADIO, TV ACTRESS; Veteran of 1000 Roles...

New York Times - Jan 20, 1951

Elsie Mae Gordon, actress, who played more than 1000 radio roles, died Thursday night of cancer in Post-Graduate Hospital. She began her radio career with ...

Welch's wife's brochure influences me to think that Welch would have been aware through her, of V.P. of the Confederacy, Alexander "Little Alek" Stephens, and his loyal secretary, William H. Hidell, father of Alexander Stephens Hidell.:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17989&view=findpost&p=231505

http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/traveling-culture/chau1/pdf/lyndon/1/brochure.pdf

6649380457_42c79a75e7_z.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=judith+hampton+lyndon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

The two of us: Judith Hampton Lyndon and Elsie Mae Gordon ...

digital.lib.uiowa.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/tc...

this collection all collections. Digital Library Services | Contact Staff · Iowa Digital Library. Traveling Culture - Circuit Chautauqua in the Twentieth Century .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_Georgia

Washington (originally called Heard's Fort) is a city in Wilkes County, Georgia, United States. The population was 4,295 at the 2000 census. The city is the county seat of Wilkes County[3]. The city is often referred to as Washington-Wilkes by locals, distinguishing it from any other Washington in the United States.

Washington has a number of restored antebellum, Victorian, and colonial homes along the narrow, tree-lined streets. Washington claims to have more antebellum homes per capita than any other city of its size in Georgia[citation needed]. Several sites in Washington are on the National Register of Historic Places including the Wilkes County Courthouse, the Robert Toombs State Historic Site, ...

...On April 3, 1865, with Union troops under Ulysses S. Grant poised to capture Richmond, Jefferson Davis escaped for Danville, Virginia, together with the Confederate cabinet. After leaving Danville, and continuing south, Davis met with his Confederate Cabinet for the last time on May 5, 1865 in Washington, Ga....

...Confederate Gold

One of Washington's most lingering mysteries is that of the lost Confederate gold [3]. As the last recorded location of the remaining confederate gold, Washington, and the surrounding countryside, is thought to be the site where the remaining gold is buried. Worth roughly $100,000 in 1865, when it disappeared, in today's dollars its worth would be around one million dollars. The cable channel A & E produced a documentary of this Washington legend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Toombs

Robert Augustus Toombs (July 2, 1810 – December 15, 1885) was an American political leader, United States Senator from Georgia, 1st Secretary of State of the Confederacy, and a Confederate general in the Civil War.

Early life

Born near Washington, Wilkes County, Georgia, Robert Augustus Toombs was the fifth child of Catherine Huling and Robert Toombs. His father died when he was five, and he entered Franklin College at the University of Georgia in Athens when he was just fourteen. ....

Final years

When the Confederacy finally collapsed in 1865, Toombs barely escaped arrest by Union troops and went into hiding until he fled to Cuba on November 4, and then to London and Paris. He returned to the United States via Canada in 1867. Because he refused to request a pardon from Congress, he never regained his American citizenship. He did restore his lucrative law practice as an "unreconstructed" southerner. In addition, he dominated the Georgia constitutional convention of 1877, where once again he demonstrated the political skill and temperament that earlier had earned him a reputation as one of Georgia's most effective leaders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_H._Stephens

Alexander Hamilton Stephens (February 11, 1812 – March 4, 1883) was an American politician from Georgia. He was Vice President of the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War.

....Stephens and fellow Georgia Representative Robert Toombs campaigned for the election of Zachary Taylor as President in 1848. Both were chagrined and angered when Taylor proved less than pliable on aspects of the Compromise of 1850. Stephens and Toombs both supported the Compromise of 1850 though they opposed the exclusion of slavery from the territories on the theory that such lands belonged to all of the people. The pair returned to Georgia to secure support for the measures at home. Both men were instrumental in the drafting and approval of the Georgia Platform, which rallied Unionists throughout the Deep South.

Not only were Stephens and Toombs political allies, but they were lifelong friends. Stephens was described as "a highly sensitive young man of serious and joyless habits of consuming ambition, of poverty-fed pride, and of morbid preoccupation within self," a contrast to the "robust, wealthy, and convivial Toombs. But this strange camaraderie endured with singular accord throughout their lives."[3]...

Sorry, Tom.

I don't "get" it. I'm too obtuse, I guess. Please explicate so I decide if I really want to read it all.

--Tommy :huh:

P.S. Tom, I hope you don't mind if I start calling you Tom "Dinkin" Scully? :)

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Tom,

I'm in your thread mostly because of the details in three wedding announcements. William HG Fitzgerald, Anapolis and Harvard Law, ammried Annilese Petschek in 1943.

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=+paul+hellmuth+%22malcolm+dooley%22&btnG=#pq=conrad+hilton+dooley+&hl=en&ds=n&cp=15&gs_id=5u&xhr=t&q=byfield+ushers+hammonds&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&tbo=1&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=byfield+ushers+hammonds&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=30aacb60a5189cbc&biw=1173&bih=736

MISS AR PETSGHEK WED IN CATHEDRal; Bride of Lieut. Commdr....

New York Times - Jul 3, 1943

Lieut Ernest L. Byfield Jr., iUSA, of Chicago, was best man for! the bridegroom ... iThe ushers were Capt. OW Hammond of Washington and the bride's brother, .

...I found the following info only because the Washington Post version of the above 1943 wedding announcement listed the first name of usher, Capt. Oliver W Hammonds, U.S,A. :

http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/2006/summer/memoriam.php

Oliver W. Hammonds ’36 of Dallas died Feb. 14, 2006. A solo practitioner, he focused his Dallas practice on taxation and investments. Earlier in his career, he was an attorney at the U.S. Treasury Department and in the Tax Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. He was a director of the Dallas Council on World Affairs and helped raise $1 million for the establishment of the Manley O. Hudson Chair of International Law at HLS. During WWII, he served in the U.S. Army Air Forces as an intelligence officer.

ARABIAN AMERICAN DEVELOPMENT CO - 10-K - 19960401 - AUDITORS_OPINION

google.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?...

10(f) 1987 Non-Employee Director Stock Plan (incorporated by reference to Exhibit ...... John A. Crichton Chairman of the Board Arabian Shield Development Company ... Shield Development Company Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Oliver W. Hammonds ..

ARABIAN SHIELD DEVELOPMENT CO - 10-K Annual Report - 12/31/1995

www.getfilings.com/o0000950134-96-001086.html

Arabian Shield Development Company (the "Company") was organized as a ...... resident in the United States are Mr. John A. Crichton, Chairman of the Board, ..... /s/ O.W. Hammonds Director - ------------------------- Oliver W. Hammonds ..

http://www.google.com/search?q=arabian+development+crichton+oliver+w+hammonds+director&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=LBh&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=oliver%20w%20hammonds%20cfr&psj=1&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=263713l267924l0l269216l4l4l0l2l0l0l388l499l0.1.0.1l2l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=bks&source=og&sa=N&tab=wp&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=e9de948b95aa575a&biw=1280&bih=783

The CFR.

books.google.comPhoebe Courtney - 1968 - 230 pages - Snippet view

Alfred M. Gullion, Edmund A. Hall, John W. Halle, Louis J., Jr. Hamilton, Thomas J. Hammonds, Oliver W. Hansell , Gen. Haywood S., Jr. Harbison, Frederick Hare , Raymond A . Harriman, W. Averell Harris, Irving B. Harris

You'd have to read carefully the Paul Hellmuth thread and mull over the names and connections in my last post in that thread.:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10776&st=0&p=242851entry242851

You'd have to ask yourself why a lawyer partnered with Paul F. Hellmuth at Hale & Dorr, Joseph N. Welch, would be dragging himself and several of his colleagues down to Washington to represent the U.S. Army, pro bono? Was the Army indigent, incapable of paying for legal counsel?

What do you make of the spectacle of Roy Cohen and G. David Schine? Their antics triggered Welch's decision to take on the Army as a charity case. Schine was as at least as vigorously and absurdly portrayed by government/media as an anti-communist extremist as LHO was portrayed as a marxist extremist.

I see a recurring pattern, Tom. It involves less than fifty people, and less than a dozen are at its core.

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In late 1958, lawyer Paul Hellmuth, a Notre Dame alumnus and Hale & Dorr partner (and later revealed as a conduit for CIA funds), became a key sponsor of Dooley's projects.

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The plane was pur- chased for Dooley by hotel man Conrad Hilton. Euster's previous service in the Oril- cnt was as military pilot in.

After that, its basically a game played again and again by the same core players. In the 1980's Bush roommate Robert Macauley played the Tom Dooley part, and the boosters were still the same, CIA WR Grace/Knights of Malta, Hellmuth's Independence Foundation co-trustee, David B. Stone's brother, Robert G. Stone, Jr., and Allen Quasha.

Leading up to Nov., 1963, Robert G. Stone's wife's brother, Godfrey A. Rockefeller, has a recent employment history with Bell Helicopters in Dallas, and goes on to a much longer association with Bell and its acquirer. In the mid 1970's, Stone's daughter married William HG Fitzgerald's son. Thomas J. Devine is Bush's partner, Stone's partner, and had the ssame best man as Nancy Bush, Wm. B. Macomber, Jr.

Rockefeller heads the WWF, with Devine's buddy, Bohlen, under Rockefeller.

Bush is acquainted with De Mohrenschildt through Ed Hooker, and probably through George Kichel. Devine met with De Mohrenschildt in May, 1963 and reported to the CIA about the meeting via a "secure line".

Fitzgerald's best man, Byfield is linked both to Henry Crown and to Jack Ruby. Fitzgerald's usher, Hammonds, becomes Jack Crichton's accountant and co-director.

Crichton just happens to almost instantly produce an interpreter for LHO's wife.

Joseph N. Welch's wife grew up in tiny Washington, GA, and if Welch and his partner, Hellmuth were working for Army intelligence, at some point in the 1950's, after 40 years of marriage, Welch could have imparted to Hellmuth, Army Intel, CIA, or all three, details of "Little Alek" Stephenson and his secretary, William Hidell.

Tom, I hope you would agree it would be odd enough if the only coincidences outlined in this post were that Byfield was at least acquainted with a close friend of Jack Ruby, and his mother leased Glen Ora to JFK, and Bush knew LHO's "best friend," DeMohrenschildt.

But that does not happen to be the case.

Byfield is an Army officer in the same small, top secret project, commanded by the same OSS Lt. Col. as Nancy Bush and Devine best man, Macomber.

But, it turns out that Bush's sister's best man was investigating LHO in late 1960, and Hellmuth's co-trustee, David B. Stone, had a brother in business with Tom Devine, and the best man investigating Oswald was also Devine's best man, and the Stone brother in business with Tom Devine administered a Harvard fund that turned around the business fortunes of Bush's son, George, setting him up to be a multi-millionaire, and that Tom Dooley had identical backing and similar mission as Robert Macauley did, 22 years later.

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p. 276 The Plot and the Coverup – Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by PDS

...two minutes earlier by Jack Alston Crichton, a right-wing Republican, oil operator, member of Army Intelligence Reserve (9 WH 106), and head of "a local Army Intelligence Unit" (WCD 386, SS 1058). Crichton knew Mamantov personally as a fellow petroleum geologist. He also knew him because Mamantov was a precinct chairman o the Republican party, for which Crichton became the 1964 candidate for governor of Texas.

It is not known how many Dallas policemen were also (as is apparently a widespread practice) members of the U.S. Army Reserve. One such reservist was Detective Adamik (7 WH 203), a member of the party which retrieved the rifle-blanket from the Paine garage and later reported what he overheard at Mamantov's interview of Marina about the rifle ("She said that it looked like her husband's rifle. She said that it was dark"; 24 WH291). Another member of Army Intelligence Reserve was Captain W. P. Gannaway, Revill's supervisor as head of the Dallas Police Special Service Bureau (WCD 1426.26; 19 WH 120); Gannaway's secretary was reported by an out-of-town police chief to be "closely connected" to Jack Ruby (WCD 86.151). This story was plausible, given the close connection between Ruby and the SSB, including men who participated in the search of the TSBD and the arrest of Oswald. Since the protection of visiting dignitaries was one of the SSB's responsibilities (5 WH48), Gannaway was involved in the meetings arranged by Secret Service advance man Winston Lawson for the Kennedy visit (5 WH39; 7 WH 580).

According to a news story in FBI files, in 1963 both Captain Gannaway and his subordinate Lieutenant Revill were assigned a special responsibility for "espionage and subversive activities" in Dallas. This was in conjunction with

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, military intelligence teams from the army, navy, and air force, and other federal agencies with investigators operating from headquarters here…The job of [Revill's] intelligence section in Capt. Gannaway's bureau…requires the closest cooperation with these other governmental agencies gathering intelligence on subversive groups suspected of espionage…With membership in a national police intelligence organization known as LEIU (Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) the local officers are able to get information almost immediately on suspected subversives when they move into Dallas. This information is exchanged by police units as these persons move from city to city…Employes in [industrial] plants are carefully screened by security conscious personnel officers, and in key jobs are given strict government security clearances. Industry is taking great strides to upgrade security practices. One such group in this area is the American Society for Industrial Security. 10

The possibility that Oswald was an informant for this centralized security team would explain his visit to the Dallas American Civil Liberties Union, a liberal group being investigated by Revill's intelligence section, in the company of an extreme right-winger (Michael Paine). 11.

One can see how easily a false legend for Oswald could have been generated in the shared files of this coordinated security campaign, involving the Dallas SSB, FBI, military intelligence, and the American Society for Industrial Security. Such a centralized file system could be the source for the recurring (and unexplained) inversion of Oswald's name, as Harvey Lee Oswald, in the files of the Dallas police (e.g., 19 WH 438, 24 WH 259), FBI (e.g., 23 WH 207, 23 WH 373), Secret Service (16 WH 721, 748), army intelligence, and navy intelligence. 12.

The most intriguing "Harvey Lee Oswald" document is Jack Revill's list of employees at the Texas School Book Depository, compiled right after the assassination, before Oswald had been apprehended for the Tippit murder. For some unexplained reason, Oswald's inverted name ("Harvey Lee Oswald") was at the very head of that list, accompanied by an address, "605 Elsbeth," that slightly misrepresented the address (602 Elsbeth) where he had resided a year earlier (24 WH 259). 13 The Elsbeth address does suggest that Oswald's data had been parked for some time before the assassination in an intelligence file, not hitherto identified. One possibility would be the files of the LEIU, the Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit, the intercity police-intelligence organization of which Revill as the lead local representative. LEIU's files, unlike ordinary police files, cannot be given to any civilian authorities and are treated as exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. As we shall see, it was also a frequent practice for the LEIU member intelligence units to collaborate with army intelligence. 14.

Another army reserve officer in Dealey plaza may have been Winston Lawson, the White House Secret Service agent responsible for the choice of the Kennedy motorcade route (4 WH 318). Lawson's first three reports of what happened on and before November 22 raise considerable questions about his performance…… [emphasis added by T. Graves]

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p. 276 The Plot and the Coverup – Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by PDS

...two minutes earlier by Jack Alston Crichton, a right-wing Republican, oil operator, member of Army Intelligence Reserve (9 WH 106), and head of "a local Army Intelligence Unit" (WCD 386, SS 1058). Crichton knew Mamantov personally as a fellow petroleum geologist. He also knew him because Mamantov was a precinct chairman o the Republican party, for which Crichton became the 1964 candidate for governor of Texas.

It is not known how many Dallas policemen were also (as is apparently a widespread practice) members of the U.S. Army Reserve. One such reservist was Detective Adamik (7 WH 203), a member of the party which retrieved the rifle-blanket from the Paine garage and later reported what he overheard at Mamantov's interview of Marina about the rifle ("She said that it looked like her husband's rifle. She said that it was dark"; 24 WH291). Another member of Army Intelligence Reserve was Captain W. P. Gannaway, Revill's supervisor as head of the Dallas Police Special Service Bureau (WCD 1426.26; 19 WH 120); Gannaway's secretary was reported by an out-of-town police chief to be "closely connected" to Jack Ruby (WCD 86.151). This story was plausible, given the close connection between Ruby and the SSB, including men who participated in the search of the TSBD and the arrest of Oswald. Since the protection of visiting dignitaries was one of the SSB's responsibilities (5 WH48), Gannaway was involved in the meetings arranged by Secret Service advance man Winston Lawson for the Kennedy visit (5 WH39; 7 WH 580).

According to a news story in FBI files, in 1963 both Captain Gannaway and his subordinate Lieutenant Revill were assigned a special responsibility for "espionage and subversive activities" in Dallas. This was in conjunction with

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, military intelligence teams from the army, navy, and air force, and other federal agencies with investigators operating from headquarters here…The job of [Revill's] intelligence section in Capt. Gannaway's bureau…requires the closest cooperation with these other governmental agencies gathering intelligence on subversive groups suspected of espionage…With membership in a national police intelligence organization known as LEIU (Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) the local officers are able to get information almost immediately on suspected subversives when they move into Dallas. This information is exchanged by police units as these persons move from city to city…Employes in [industrial] plants are carefully screened by security conscious personnel officers, and in key jobs are given strict government security clearances. Industry is taking great strides to upgrade security practices. One such group in this area is the American Society for Industrial Security. 10

The possibility that Oswald was an informant for this centralized security team would explain his visit to the Dallas American Civil Liberties Union, a liberal group being investigated by Revill's intelligence section, in the company of an extreme right-winger (Michael Paine). 11.

One can see how easily a false legend for Oswald could have been generated in the shared files of this coordinated security campaign, involving the Dallas SSB, FBI, military intelligence, and the American Society for Industrial Security. Such a centralized file system could be the source for the recurring (and unexplained) inversion of Oswald's name, as Harvey Lee Oswald, in the files of the Dallas police (e.g., 19 WH 438, 24 WH 259), FBI (e.g., 23 WH 207, 23 WH 373), Secret Service (16 WH 721, 748), army intelligence, and navy intelligence. 12.

The most intriguing "Harvey Lee Oswald" document is Jack Revill's list of employees at the Texas School Book Depository, compiled right after the assassination, before Oswald had been apprehended for the Tippit murder. For some unexplained reason, Oswald's inverted name ("Harvey Lee Oswald") was at the very head of that list, accompanied by an address, "605 Elsbeth," that slightly misrepresented the address (602 Elsbeth) where he had resided a year earlier (24 WH 259). 13 The Elsbeth address does suggest that Oswald's data had been parked for some time before the assassination in an intelligence file, not hitherto identified. One possibility would be the files of the LEIU, the Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit, the intercity police-intelligence organization of which Revill as the lead local representative. LEIU's files, unlike ordinary police files, cannot be given to any civilian authorities and are treated as exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. As we shall see, it was also a frequent practice for the LEIU member intelligence units to collaborate with army intelligence. 14.

Another army reserve officer in Dealey plaza may have been Winston Lawson, the White House Secret Service agent responsible for the choice of the Kennedy motorcade route (4 WH 318). Lawson's first three reports of what happened on and before November 22 raise considerable questions about his performance…… [emphasis added by T. Graves]

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Tommy

The Need to know applied to thier persons too ,Although they knew each other at times displaying this connection is not appropriate.IOW they all KNOW each other when they NEED to.

Ian

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p. 276 The Plot and the Coverup – Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by PDS

...two minutes earlier by Jack Alston Crichton, a right-wing Republican, oil operator, member of Army Intelligence Reserve (9 WH 106), and head of "a local Army Intelligence Unit" (WCD 386, SS 1058). Crichton knew Mamantov personally as a fellow petroleum geologist. He also knew him because Mamantov was a precinct chairman o the Republican party, for which Crichton became the 1964 candidate for governor of Texas.

It is not known how many Dallas policemen were also (as is apparently a widespread practice) members of the U.S. Army Reserve. One such reservist was Detective Adamik (7 WH 203), a member of the party which retrieved the rifle-blanket from the Paine garage and later reported what he overheard at Mamantov's interview of Marina about the rifle ("She said that it looked like her husband's rifle. She said that it was dark"; 24 WH291). Another member of Army Intelligence Reserve was Captain W. P. Gannaway, Revill's supervisor as head of the Dallas Police Special Service Bureau (WCD 1426.26; 19 WH 120); Gannaway's secretary was reported by an out-of-town police chief to be "closely connected" to Jack Ruby (WCD 86.151). This story was plausible, given the close connection between Ruby and the SSB, including men who participated in the search of the TSBD and the arrest of Oswald. Since the protection of visiting dignitaries was one of the SSB's responsibilities (5 WH48), Gannaway was involved in the meetings arranged by Secret Service advance man Winston Lawson for the Kennedy visit (5 WH39; 7 WH 580).

According to a news story in FBI files, in 1963 both Captain Gannaway and his subordinate Lieutenant Revill were assigned a special responsibility for "espionage and subversive activities" in Dallas. This was in conjunction with

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, military intelligence teams from the army, navy, and air force, and other federal agencies with investigators operating from headquarters here…The job of [Revill's] intelligence section in Capt. Gannaway's bureau…requires the closest cooperation with these other governmental agencies gathering intelligence on subversive groups suspected of espionage…With membership in a national police intelligence organization known as LEIU (Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) the local officers are able to get information almost immediately on suspected subversives when they move into Dallas. This information is exchanged by police units as these persons move from city to city…Employes in [industrial] plants are carefully screened by security conscious personnel officers, and in key jobs are given strict government security clearances. Industry is taking great strides to upgrade security practices. One such group in this area is the American Society for Industrial Security. 10

The possibility that Oswald was an informant for this centralized security team would explain his visit to the Dallas American Civil Liberties Union, a liberal group being investigated by Revill's intelligence section, in the company of an extreme right-winger (Michael Paine). 11.

One can see how easily a false legend for Oswald could have been generated in the shared files of this coordinated security campaign, involving the Dallas SSB, FBI, military intelligence, and the American Society for Industrial Security. Such a centralized file system could be the source for the recurring (and unexplained) inversion of Oswald's name, as Harvey Lee Oswald, in the files of the Dallas police (e.g., 19 WH 438, 24 WH 259), FBI (e.g., 23 WH 207, 23 WH 373), Secret Service (16 WH 721, 748), army intelligence, and navy intelligence. 12.

The most intriguing "Harvey Lee Oswald" document is Jack Revill's list of employees at the Texas School Book Depository, compiled right after the assassination, before Oswald had been apprehended for the Tippit murder. For some unexplained reason, Oswald's inverted name ("Harvey Lee Oswald") was at the very head of that list, accompanied by an address, "605 Elsbeth," that slightly misrepresented the address (602 Elsbeth) where he had resided a year earlier (24 WH 259). 13 The Elsbeth address does suggest that Oswald's data had been parked for some time before the assassination in an intelligence file, not hitherto identified. One possibility would be the files of the LEIU, the Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit, the intercity police-intelligence organization of which Revill as the lead local representative. LEIU's files, unlike ordinary police files, cannot be given to any civilian authorities and are treated as exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. As we shall see, it was also a frequent practice for the LEIU member intelligence units to collaborate with army intelligence. 14.

Another army reserve officer in Dealey plaza may have been Winston Lawson, the White House Secret Service agent responsible for the choice of the Kennedy motorcade route (4 WH 318). Lawson's first three reports of what happened on and before November 22 raise considerable questions about his performance…… [emphasis added by T. Graves]

bumped again

--Tommy :ph34r:

Tommy

The need to know applied to thier persons too , Although they knew each other at times displaying this connection is not appropriate.IOW they all KNOW each other when they NEED to.

Ian

Sorry Ian,

Not sure what you're talking about. Could you please clarify who you mean by "they" and "their" in the context of what you wrote?

Thanks,

--Tommy :)

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and from PDS's Deep Politics & the Death of JFK:

p. 276 The Plot and the Coverup – Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by PDS

...two minutes earlier by Jack Alston Crichton, a right-wing Republican, oil operator, member of Army Intelligence Reserve (9 WH 106), and head of "a local Army Intelligence Unit" (WCD 386, SS 1058). Crichton knew Mamantov personally as a fellow petroleum geologist. He also knew him because Mamantov was a precinct chairman o the Republican party, for which Crichton became the 1964 candidate for governor of Texas.

It is not known how many Dallas policemen were also (as is apparently a widespread practice) members of the U.S. Army Reserve. One such reservist was Detective Adamik (7 WH 203), a member of the party which retrieved the rifle-blanket from the Paine garage and later reported what he overheard at Mamantov's interview of Marina about the rifle ("She said that it looked like her husband's rifle. She said that it was dark"; 24 WH291). Another member of Army Intelligence Reserve was Captain W. P. Gannaway, Revill's supervisor as head of the Dallas Police Special Service Bureau (WCD 1426.26; 19 WH 120); Gannaway's secretary was reported by an out-of-town police chief to be "closely connected" to Jack Ruby (WCD 86.151). This story was plausible, given the close connection between Ruby and the SSB, including men who participated in the search of the TSBD and the arrest of Oswald. Since the protection of visiting dignitaries was one of the SSB's responsibilities (5 WH48), Gannaway was involved in the meetings arranged by Secret Service advance man Winston Lawson for the Kennedy visit (5 WH39; 7 WH 580).

According to a news story in FBI files, in 1963 both Captain Gannaway and his subordinate Lieutenant Revill were assigned a special responsibility for "espionage and subversive activities" in Dallas. This was in conjunction with

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, military intelligence teams from the army, navy, and air force, and other federal agencies with investigators operating from headquarters here…The job of [Revill's] intelligence section in Capt. Gannaway's bureau…requires the closest cooperation with these other governmental agencies gathering intelligence on subversive groups suspected of espionage…With membership in a national police intelligence organization known as LEIU (Law Enforcement Intelligence Units) the local officers are able to get information almost immediately on suspected subversives when they move into Dallas. This information is exchanged by police units as these persons move from city to city…Employes in [industrial] plants are carefully screened by security conscious personnel officers, and in key jobs are given strict government security clearances. Industry is taking great strides to upgrade security practices. One such group in this area is the American Society for Industrial Security. 10

The possibility that Oswald was an informant for this centralized security team would explain his visit to the Dallas American Civil Liberties Union, a liberal group being investigated by Revill's intelligence section, in the company of an extreme right-winger (Michael Paine). 11.

One can see how easily a false legend for Oswald could have been generated in the shared files of this coordinated security campaign, involving the Dallas SSB, FBI, military intelligence, and the American Society for Industrial Security. Such a centralized file system could be the source for the recurring (and unexplained) inversion of Oswald's name, as Harvey Lee Oswald, in the files of the Dallas police (e.g., 19 WH 438, 24 WH 259), FBI (e.g., 23 WH 207, 23 WH 373), Secret Service (16 WH 721, 748), army intelligence, and navy intelligence. 12.

The most intriguing "Harvey Lee Oswald" document is Jack Revill's list of employees at the Texas School Book Depository, compiled right after the assassination, before Oswald had been apprehended for the Tippit murder. For some unexplained reason, Oswald's inverted name ("Harvey Lee Oswald") was at the very head of that list, accompanied by an address, "605 Elsbeth," that slightly misrepresented the address (602 Elsbeth) where he had resided a year earlier (24 WH 259). 13 The Elsbeth address does suggest that Oswald's data had been parked for some time before the assassination in an intelligence file, not hitherto identified. One possibility would be the files of the LEIU, the Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit, the intercity police-intelligence organization of which Revill as the lead local representative. LEIU's files, unlike ordinary police files, cannot be given to any civilian authorities and are treated as exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. As we shall see, it was also a frequent practice for the LEIU member intelligence units to collaborate with army intelligence. 14.

Another army reserve officer in Dealey plaza may have been Winston Lawson, the White House Secret Service agent responsible for the choice of the Kennedy motorcade route (4 WH 318). Lawson's first three reports of what happened on and before November 22 raise considerable questions about his performance…… [emphasis added by T. Graves]

bumped again

--Tommy :ph34r:

Tommy

The need to know applied to thier persons too , Although they knew each other at times displaying this connection is not appropriate.IOW they all KNOW each other when they NEED to.

Ian

Sorry Ian,

Not sure what you're talking about. Could you please clarify who you mean by "they" and "their" in the context of what you wrote?

Thanks,

--Tommy :)

Tommy

"They" as in their collective intelligence positions,And "their "as in personally being aware of each other as seperate

entities.Its a 2 hat operation .it would be beneficial to any operation involving the intel crew the need to know and who does not need to know.The presidents physician Admiral Burkley was invisible most of the 22nd,but at the crucial times he was there but hardly mentioned.He would have advised the Parkland doctors of the Addisons disease and possibly gave them JFK's medication for his problem he was there but very few mention him. Burkley was also present at the autopsy but was hardly questioned odd?.He also had his attorney write to Sprague of the HSCA to inform him he may have information disproving the single assassin theory.(conscience maybe?.)

Ian

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