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HARVEY R. "Bum" BRIGHT, 84, died 12-11-04....

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/m...politan/2944424

Of course, unmentioned in the obituary is that BRIGHT was also a member of the "American Fact Finding Committee," who, with H. L. HUNT, EDGAR CRISSEY, JOSEPH P. GRINNAN (also a Dallas local coordinator for "John Birch Society"), and ROBERT P. GRINNAN, contributed money for the infamous "Welcome to Dallas" full page critique of President KENNEDY that ran in the 22NOV63 "Dallas Morning News" newspaper.

Billionaire and "Hunt Oil" founder, HAROLDSON LAFAYETTE "H. L." HUNT's extreme right-wing exploits are numerous. ....among them.... http://www.jfkconspiracy.com/tour109.htm

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_...ue/madness.html

http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/cove...onfmanbush.html

HUNT was, supposedly, at the CLINT MURCHISON Sr. party on 21NOV63 that HOOVER, NIXON, LBJ, McCLOY, G.BROWN, R.THORNTON, H.L.HUNT, IMM, H.L. HUNT, TOLSON, McCLOY, MADELEINE BROWN, and others supposedly also attended. The "Torbitt Document" claimed that HUNT was a co-conspirator part of the "Permindex" KENNEDY assassination cabal. HUNT also authored the somewhat rare far right-wing book, "ALPACA" (1960) that contains an onion-skin insert page entitled, "Amendments which have been suggested for the Constitution of Alpaca." The book is a far right-wing screed, related closely to the kind of atmosphere which greeted JFK three years later in Dallas. Hunt's constitution for his fictitious country, for example, would give 7 votes to "each citizen if one of top 10% of direct National taxpayers"; then he grades it on down to we peons, fortunate to receive a single vote by the grace of that top 10% in which the Hunt family dwelt. It has a "protagonist," one "Juan Achala," citizen of Alpaca who's ditching its environs for greener--read, "More Right Wing"--pastures. In 1995 researcher DICK RUSSELL offered the ARRB private papers that RUSSELL stated showed that the HUNT family was investigating starting in 1967 what JIM GARRSION was investigating and learning.

JOSEPH P. GRINNAN's name was found among ASHLAND BURCHWELL possessions in the car BURCHWELL was driving when BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 and a large cache of arms and ammunition was found inside car (accordding to a memorandum for the FBI dated 14NOV62 by the Headquarters Department of the Army Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Summary information Region 2, 112th Intelligence NTC Group, Station "C," Commerce Street, Dallas, TX) J. GRINNAN was also a local coordinator for the "John Birch Society." When "Bircher" BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 besides a large cache of arms and ammunition found inside car was also names, addresses, and phone number's of certain people (some of the persons info was coded), and BURCHWELL said he was "enroute to Mississippi to aid Governor Barnett's cause by lending support to former Major General Edwin A. Walker." The same 14NOV62, 112th Intelligence NTC Group memo also mentioned JACK RUBY stripper, "Joy Dale," a.k.a. JOYCE WITHERSPOON McDONALD. This 112th Intelligence NTC Group included Dealey Plaza earwitness and shortly after attack photographer/Defense Protective Service special agent of 112th Military Intelligence Group U.S. Army Captain & Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX, region 2, JAMES POWELL, who stated that very shortly after the attack from the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository he called SAMUEL H. PATE, also a DPS special agent of 112th MIG, U.S. Army Lt. Colonel & Regional Commanding Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX. ROBERT E. JONES, the DPS special agent of 112th MIG and U.S. Army Lt. Colonel & Operations Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX told the HSCA that there were 8 to 12 DPS agents on duty in plainclothes within Dealey Plaza and that PATE would have debriefed the 8 to 12 DPS agents afterwards. Also in his HSCA testimony JONES stated that POWELL was on duty 22NOV63. JONES provided the Army intelligence file information about OSWALD and "A. J. Hidell" to the FBI offices in San Antonio and Dallas. JONES told HSCA interviewer HAROLD WHEAT that he was aware of OSWALD's Mexico City trip BEFORE the assassination and that he did not believe OSWALD acted alone during the assassination. JONES also told WHEAT that he was surprised that neither the FBI, SS, CIA, WC ever interviewed him during the initial investigations.

JAMES POWELL took his TSBD south face slide photo seconds after attack using a 35mm "Minolta" camera because at least a couple persons pointed out the source of the shots as the TSBD. POWELL went to TSBD rear to help deputies where POWELL spoke with a beer company employee man who POWELL told someone to arrest. (before the assassination POWELL's 112 MIG main job responsibility was to run security investigations for security clearances on both military and civilian personnel) After the assassination POWELL was soon sealed within TSBD when he went in it to use phone on 2nd floor to call his commander PATE & where he heard PIERECE ALLMAN say that JFK was shot at and hit possibly from TSBD & the only reason we ever found out about POWELL is that he had to show his military i.d. to get out of the TSBD at 1:45pm. POWELL overheard BRENNAN's observations which he reported to PATE in a second phone call to PATE. POWELL claimed in his HSCA testimony he went near the grassy knoll/railroad tracks area and had to show his i.d. to D.P.D. officers/deputies who wondered why POWELL was helping them and that POWELL would have identified himself as a "military intelligence agent" or "special agent of the military intelligence." POWELL further told the HSCA that he could not have possibly been mistaken for the "grassy knoll agent(s)" that several witnesses (JOE SMITH, MALCOLM SUMMERS, etc.) described because POWELL testified that he always had his camera out in plain view and none of the "grassy knoll agent(s)" witnesses ever said they saw a camera. During the attack POWELL was close to DP, one block east of Houston Street walking west on Elm, and he remembered hearing 2 or 3 shots. POWELL had his film developed commercially and after gave it to EARL E. BOYD a Lt. Colonel also of the 112th Intel NTC. A little known fact is that before the assassination POWELL was also at Love Field, where he told the ARRB that he took 3 or 4 photos. (have those photos ever been made public? Can anyone identify POWELL in any Love Field photos and/or filmed frames?)

EARL E. BOYD (WCD 205, WCD 206) in a report stated that persons in his division had heard that on 20NOV63 two men had been observed sighting in a rifle on Continental Street.

According to then-U.S. Air Force Colonel and the Department of Defense Joint Chiefs of Staff Chief of Special Operations, LEROY FLETCHER PROUTY, the U.S. Army's Commander of 112th Military Intelligence Group at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston in Austin, TX, Colonel MAXIMILLIAN REICH, before the assassination was supposedly ordered by someone to *stand down* his supplemental Presidential protective team personnel (according to PROUTY, REICH's second-in-command, last-named CABAZA, also protested the *stand down*)

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Don,

The same 14NOV62, 112th Intelligence NTC Group memo also mentioned JACK RUBY stripper, "Joy Dale," a.k.a. JOYCE WITHERSPOON McDONALD.

What does this memo say about Joyce McDonald?

Steve Thomas

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HUNT was, supposedly, at the CLINT MURCHISON Sr. party on 21NOV63 that HOOVER, NIXON, LBJ, McCLOY, G.BROWN, R.THORNTON, H.L.HUNT, IMM, H.L. HUNT, TOLSON, McCLOY, MADELEINE BROWN, and others supposedly also attended.

Unless something new has turned up, there is no evidence that such a party took place.

The same 14NOV62, 112th Intelligence NTC Group memo also mentioned JACK RUBY stripper, "Joy Dale," a.k.a. JOYCE WITHERSPOON McDONALD.

Like Steve, I'm curious as to what the memo says about this lady. She was involved in the story about Ruby's dog Sheba.

ROBERT E. JONES, the DPS special agent of 112th MIG and U.S. Army Lt. Colonel & Operations Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX told the HSCA that there were 8 to 12 DPS agents on duty in plainclothes within Dealey Plaza and that PATE would have debriefed the 8 to 12 DPS agents afterwards. Also in his HSCA testimony JONES stated that POWELL was on duty

Jones was not the operations officer (he lied or else didn't know what he was talking about), and Powell told the ARRB that neither he nor any other agents were on duty in Dealey Plaza that day. There are also no Secret Service or DPD references at all to military personnel helping with security that day. This is all covered in Larry Hancock's "The Mysteries of the 112th Intelligence Corps Group," on his CD "Keys to the Conspiracy."

According to then-U.S. Air Force Colonel and the Department of Defense Joint Chiefs of Staff Chief of Special Operations, LEROY FLETCHER PROUTY, the U.S. Army's Commander of 112th Military Intelligence Group at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston in Austin, TX, Colonel MAXIMILLIAN REICH, before the assassination was supposedly ordered by someone to *stand down* his supplemental Presidential protective team personnel (according to PROUTY, REICH's second-in-command, last-named CABAZA, also protested the *stand down*)

Reich was interviewed by the ARRB (this is also available on Larry's CD). Reich denied there was any such stand down, as his unit never had any order or responsibility to provide presidential protection. Reich told the ARRB that Prouty was "smoking something," and when he read Prouty's stand down story Reich wrote to the Army about whether or not to take legal action.

Ron

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X. Robardeau

Thanks for sharing the MI stand down documentation that I was looking for.

Looks like that old boy might have been up on the sixth floor, around lunch-time.

I have been looking for that file, I read all that years ago.

I was evidently one of the lucky few to view The Men Who Killed.... on the History Channel or (A@E?) in 2003...the documentary that got pulled....the witnesses to the party continue to talk about the party and what Mr. Johnson said and how everybody was happy that Kennedy died, the Murchison's and the VIP's and all. Johnson's alibi ended about midnight.

Whether Nixon, Hoover and Tolson were there, you seem to know that is possible....

Prouty also knew a lot and he named the names when pressed, evidently.

ALSO thanks for establishing the difference in camera height between Ms. Moorman and Mr. Nix. Nix was a full eight feet above her in POV.

Jack White just posted some good NIX frames, please comment on that thread.

I swear, Robardeau, I see a figure at the break in the wall and a cartop close in behind him in front of the Pergola on the path, with that line of sight down to HUDSON #2 and #3 .... What do you think of NIX cartop classic stance man?

I think the car is in front of the tree's shadow what ever that means for its unlikely proximity to the path...there was an ambush out of that corner, a little double parking has to be considered I think....

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Thank you for posting news that Harvey Bright had died. As far as I can see, only Madeleine Brown has suggested that Bright was involved in the assassination. As Ron has pointed out, there is no evidence that the party actually took place. See the research carried out by Gary Mack on this.

There is another reason why Bright is unlikely to have been involved in the conspiracy. Bright, along with Edgar R. Crissey and Nelson Lamar Hunt, helped to pay for the full-page, black-bordered anti-Kennedy advertisement that ran in the Dallas Morning News on the day that Kennedy was assassinated. The advert, placed by Bernard Weissman, attacked Kennedy's foreign policy as being anti-American and communistic. Some people interpreted the black borders as a threat against JFK.

Bright would have to be a madman to have paid for such an advert if he knew that JFK was to be assassinated that day. It is probably significant that his friends, Clint Murchison and George Brown, did not get involved in paying for this advert.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbrightH.htm

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Thank you for posting news that Harvey Bright had died. As far as I can see, only Madeleine Brown has suggested that Bright was involved in the assassination. As Ron has pointed out, there is no evidence that the party actually took place. See the research carried out by Gary Mack on this.

There is another reason why Bright is unlikely to have been involved in the conspiracy. Bright, along with Edgar R. Crissey and Nelson Lamar Hunt, helped to pay for the full-page, black-bordered anti-Kennedy advertisement that ran in the Dallas Morning News on the day that Kennedy was assassinated. The advert, placed by Bernard Weissman, attacked Kennedy's foreign policy as being anti-American and communistic. Some people interpreted the black borders as a threat against JFK.

Bright would have to be a madman to have paid for such an advert if he knew that JFK was to be assassinated that day. It is probably significant that his friends, Clint Murchison and George Brown, did not get involved in paying for this advert.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbrightH.htm

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Good Day.... I received an email that contained the "Dallas Morning News" obituary for BUM BRIGHT.

In Dallas, the fact that BRIGHT helped produce the 22NOV63 negative advertisement would have probably been more known by locals, and, therefore mentioned in his obit.

My point when I wrote my original post was that the national media either did not pick up on BRIGHT's sponsorship of the negative ad, or, the media did pick up on it but decided not to include it in BRIGHT's obit.

In any event, here is the "DMN" obit....

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'Bum' Bright, former Cowboys owner, dies

Longtime member of A&M board had a soft spot for children, dogs

01:35 AM CST on Monday, December 13, 2004

By MIKE HEIKA / The Dallas Morning News

A tough and sometimes controversial businessman, H.R. "Bum" Bright also had a soft side that included an extraordinary devotion to dogs, children and the Texas A&M Aggies.

Mr. Bright, 84, died Saturday night at his Highland Park home after a long illness.

"We were glad that he was at home and that everybody was there," said son Clay Bright, 50. "I think his life pretty much speaks for itself."

Courtesy photo Bum Bright sold the Cowboys to Jerry Jones in 1989.

Best known for his ownership of the Cowboys from 1984 to 1989, Mr. Bright was one of Dallas' top businessmen for years and also a longtime member of the Texas A&M Board of Regents. He was chairman of the board from 1981 to 1985. In addition, he was one of the strongest supporters of Children's Medical Center Dallas, making a $5 million donation that led to the 1999 opening of the Bright Building, a facility specializing in treating ear, nose and throat ailments.

"He really had a real interest in anybody, especially young people, who were really pushing to get ahead," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "He was partial if he saw a hustler or he saw somebody who was really ambitious. I really admired him."

Mr. Bright's wife, Peggy, said in a 1986 interview with The Dallas Morning News that her husband wasn't obsessed with possessions but that money was "the measure of what he does. It's the score at the bottom of his card."

That attitude made Mr. Bright a tough negotiator.

Retired Dallas banker Harvey Mitchell, who was a partner in Bright & Co. for 18 years, remembered Mr. Bright as having unwavering tenacity when it came to his business dealings.

"Once he got on a project, it almost took an act of Congress to call him off," Mr. Mitchell said.

Trained as a petroleum engineer, Mr. Bright made his fortune in Texas oil and gas before building a coast-to-coast trucking business. He later invested in banks, real estate and savings and loans.

Public failures

If his successes were Texas-size, so were his public failures.

He lost $29 million on the stock of RepublicBank Corp., where he was a board member, and $200 million in the 1989 failure of Bright Banc Savings Association.

Federal regulators seized control of his thrift during the costly cleanup that followed the collapse of the Texas savings and loan industry. Mr. Bright tried repeatedly to interest other investors in coming on board, but regulators wouldn't approve a deal that left Mr. Bright in charge, according to news accounts at the time.

He was in good company; many Texas executives of his era were caught up in the failure of the banks and S&Ls that once defined Dallas business.

But it was a painful interlude that included federal lawsuits over

RepublicBank and Bright Banc.

Away from the business world, Mr. Bright had a big hand in the decision that helped get Texas A&M football coach Tom Wilson fired before Jackie Sherrill was hired in 1981. Mr. Sherrill earned the highest salary of any college football coach at the time and was given the rare title of athletic director and coach. He was forced out when NCAA violations resulted in probation for the program.

Mr. Bright didn't fire Cowboys coach Tom Landry before selling the team to Jerry Jones in 1989, bringing scorn from fans who said he didn't deal honestly with Mr. Landry. Mr. Bright later told The News that he had asked Tex Schramm to fire Mr. Landry in 1987, but that Mr. Schramm wouldn't do it.

How he became 'Bum'

Born Harvey Roberts Bright on Oct. 6, 1920, in Muskogee, Okla., he spent most of his life in Texas. His father looked down at him when he was a baby and exclaimed that he looked like a railroad bum, Mr. Bright explained in an interview with The News.

"That's really the only name I ever had," Mr. Bright said.

His family moved to Highland Park when he was 8, and he graduated from

Highland Park High School in 1938. He started working in the oil fields but quickly discovered that the engineers had much better lives than the roustabouts. Mr. Bright enrolled at Texas A&M and graduated in 1943.

After that, he was called to active service in the Army Corps of Engineers and went to Europe to fight in World War II.

His upward career trajectory in the postwar years included involvement with one of Dallas' darkest political chapters: Mr. Bright co-sponsored a full-page newspaper ad written by local members of the John Birch Society that sharply criticized President John F. Kennedy on the morning of his fateful visit to Dallas, Nov. 22, 1963.

Typically, despite the assassination, Mr. Bright said later that he had no regrets about the ad, which simply reflected his conservative views.

Friends remembered a more lighthearted side of Mr. Bright.

One of the great Bum Bright stories is how he discovered a dog with a broken leg in a burned-out house. He bribed one of the medics to set the leg and then brought the dog home with him.

That started a long history of dogs living like kings in the Bright

residence.

Old-fashioned deal

His dealings with businessmen were also playful at times. In engineering the sale with Mr. Jones, Mr. Bright maneuvered in a tough but old-fashioned way.

"We shook hands when I bought the Cowboys, and we barely had a paper napkin full of details," Mr. Jones said. "And from that, we had to come up with 30 different decisions, and he was very honorable at that time.

"We came down to one of the last ones, and we flipped a coin and he won," Mr. Jones added. "Then, later when we closed the actual deal, he had enclosed that coin in a plastic container that you couldn't get into with a sledgehammer. And he wrote a note on it that said, 'You'll never know if that was a two-headed coin or not.' He had a great sense of humor."

Mr. Bright made a $25 million donation to Texas A&M in 1997. When asked about the amount, he said, "It's a nice, round number."

In a statement released Sunday, Texas A&M president Robert Gates said: "Bum Bright was the personification of what it means to be an Aggie. His love and commitment to Texas A&M University were unsurpassed. ... Aggies everywhere mourn his passing."

At 78, he did an interview at his office, where he was still going to work at 7 a.m. six days a week. "I just keep struggling, trying to make a living," he said.

That was part of his charm. He had a history of drinking beverages in seven sips because seven was one of his lucky numbers. When he arrived home from work, he would honk his car horn 11 times - another lucky number.

Luck aside, he worked hard and had a lot to show for it. James B. "Boots" Reeder, a former son-in-law and an employee for more than 20 years, called Mr. Bright a "brilliant businessman."

'A self-made man'

"He was a self-made man," Mr. Reeder said Sunday.

He was a "very good owner," said Gil Brandt, former Cowboys director of player personnel. "He was crusty, and he was tough."

But he was also honest and a true friend. "He was a great supporter of not only the Cowboys, but of mine," Mr. Jones said.

"He stood up during some real hard times for me early on, and I'll never forget that."

Along with his wife and his son, Mr. Bright is survived by his sister,

Rebecca Elizabeth Bright Madole of Dallas; two daughters, Martha Carol

Bright Hunter and Margaret Louise Bright Vonder Hoya; son Christopher

Roberts Bright; 14 grandchildren; and a great-grandchild.

A private burial will be at 2 p.m. Thursday. A memorial service will be at 4 p.m. Thursday at The Chapel of the Cross, 4333 Cole St. in Dallas.

Staff writers Suzanne Marta and Rachel Cohen and DallasNews.com staff writer Matt Mosley contributed to this report.

E-mail mheika@dallasnews.com

BUM BRIGHT TIMELINE

1948: Mr. Bright forms Bright Schiff Oil Producers with college roommate Herbert G. Schiff. In the course of three decades, the partnership builds the nation's largest private trucking company, East Texas Motor Freight, as well as Southern Trust and Mortgage and Park Cities Bank.

1963: Joins businessmen Nelson Bunker Hunt and Edgar Crissey in buying a full-page ad that ran Nov. 22 in The Dallas Morning News attacking the visiting President Kennedy for going "soft on Communists." In the wake of the assassination, the ad contributes to a belief nationwide that the city had been out to get the president. Mr. Bright defended the ad, saying he had and always would support right-wing causes.

1973: Buys Trinity Savings and Loan.

1974: Joins the board of RepublicBank Corp., becoming one of its largest shareholders by the mid-1980s.

1984: Trinity buys Texas Federal Savings for $88 million. Combined, the thrifts hold $2.3 billion in assets and are renamed Bright Banc Savings Association. ... Heads an 11-member limited partnership that purchases the Dallas Cowboys from the Murchison family.

1985: Bright Banc buys Dallas Federal Savings & Loan Association, which holds $2.2 billion in assets, for $107 million. ... Cowboys' new

headquarters at Valley Ranch opens Aug. 27.

1986: Forms Vulture I, an investment fund that buys repossessed real estate from Bright Banc and other institutions. ... Sees Cowboys coach Tom Landry's streak of 20 winning seasons end with a 7-9 record.

1987: Engineers merger of RepublicBank and InterFirst Bank Dallas, forming First RepublicBank Corp.

1988: At the height of the Texas banking crisis, First RepublicBank

collapses, and Mr. Bright loses $29 million in stock.

1989: Federal regulators seize Bright Banc because of mounting real estate losses. ... Sells Cowboys to Jerry Jones.

August 1991: Federal regulators sue former officers and directors of First RepublicBank Dallas for gross negligence.

January 1993: Along with other former officers of First RepublicBank, agrees to pay federal regulators $22 million to settle charges of gross mismanagement and end an 18-month legal battle.

-From staff reports

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Namebase entry for Harvey Bright:

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Mayer,M. The Greatest-Ever Bank Robbery. 1990 (257-8)

Moldea,D. Interference. 1989 (400)

Sheehy,S. Texas Big Rich. 1992 (144-53)

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JOSEPH P. GRINNAN's name was found among ASHLAND BURCHWELL possessions in the car BURCHWELL was driving when BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 and a large cache of arms and ammunition was found inside car (accordding to a memorandum for the FBI dated 14NOV62 by the Headquarters Department of the Army Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Summary information Region 2, 112th Intelligence NTC Group, Station "C," Commerce Street, Dallas, TX) J. GRINNAN was also a local coordinator for the "John Birch Society." When "Bircher" BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 besides a large cache of arms and ammunition found inside car was also names, addresses, and phone number's of certain people (some of the persons info was coded), and BURCHWELL said he was "enroute to Mississippi to aid Governor Barnett's cause by lending support to former Major General Edwin A. Walker." (Don Roberdeau)

For those interested in the Birchers.

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JOSEPH P. GRINNAN's name was found among ASHLAND BURCHWELL possessions in the car BURCHWELL was driving when BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 and a large cache of arms and ammunition was found inside car (accordding to a memorandum for the FBI dated 14NOV62 by the Headquarters Department of the Army Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Summary information Region 2, 112th Intelligence NTC Group, Station "C," Commerce Street, Dallas, TX) J. GRINNAN was also a local coordinator for the "John Birch Society." When "Bircher" BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 besides a large cache of arms and ammunition found inside car was also names, addresses, and phone number's of certain people (some of the persons info was coded), and BURCHWELL said he was "enroute to Mississippi to aid Governor Barnett's cause by lending support to former Major General Edwin A. Walker." (Don Roberdeau)

According to Bernard Weissman it was Joe Grinnan who recruited him and Larrie Schmidt to do some work in Dallas in November 1963. Weissman later told the Warren Commission that Schmidt argued: "If we are going to take advantage of the situation, or if you are," meaning me, "you better hurry down here and take advantage of the publicity, and at least become known among these various right-wingers, because this is the chance we have been looking for to infiltrate some of these organizations and become known," in other words, go along with the philosophy we had developed in Munich."

Weissman arrived in Dallas on 4th November, 1963. Soon afterwards Schmidt got Weissman to join an organization called the Young Americans for Freedom (Tim Gratz's group). Schmidt also introduced Weissman to Joe Grinnan of the John Birch Society. Grinnan was involved in organizing protests against the visit of JFK. Grinnan seemed to know about the visit before it was officially announced to the public. Grinnan suggested that they should place a black-bordered advert in the Dallas Morning News on 22nd November, 1963. The advert cost $1,465. Grinnan supplied the money. He claimed that some of this came from Nelson Bunker Hunt, the son of Haroldson L. Hunt. Weissman was given the task of signing the advert and taking it to the newspaper office.

On 22nd November, 1963, Schmidt and Weissman met in a bar. Weissman was shocked by the assassination of JFK and told Schmidt he feared he would be accused of being involved in the killing. Weissman suspected that JFK had been killed by supporters of General Edwin Walker and that as a result he would be implicated in the plot. However, he told the Warren Commission that Schmidt was relieved when he discovered that Oswald had been arrested for the murder. The Warren Commission did not ask how they knew Oswald was not a right-winger. Despite this news, Schmidt, Weissman and Grinnan decided to leave Dallas.

Weissman was found by the FBI and was forced to testify before the Warren Commission. However, Larry Schmidt and Joe Grinnon escaped capture and were never interviewed by the authorities.

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Good stuff, John.

During September of 1963, Schmidt wrote a very unflattering piece about Kennedy to the editor of the local paper.

James

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I have just had an email from a member of the Bright family to say that Wikipedia stole my information for their entry. He complained and Wikipedia have now replaced it with a link to my page.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbrightH.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bum_Bright

The following pertains more to Joy Dale than the Bright family, Dale's name is listed in the contents.

A possible area of interest is in the ostensible Warren Report reference to number 1179, I would strongly suggest CR 1179

is synonymous with CD 1179.

http://www.nara.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/29336/jfksnew.txt

AGENCY INFORMATION

AGENCY : HSCA

RECORD NUMBER : 180-10083-10346

RECORDS SERIES : NUMBERED FILES

AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 005645

DOCUMENT INFORMATION

ORIGINATOR : WC

FROM : FBI

TO : [No To]

TITLE : [No Title]

DATE : 01/13/1964

PAGES : 3

DOCUMENT TYPE : REPORT

SUBJECTS : CARLIN, KAREN LYNN; RUBY, JACK, BACKGROUND, ASSOCIATES

AND RELATIVES; BUNKER, JERRY HARRIS; DALE, JOY;

KIRKWOOD, PAT

CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED

RESTRICTIONS : REFERRED

CURRENT STATUS : POSTPONED IN FULL

DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 07/07/1993

COMMENTS : WC CR 1179. Box 115.

Robert:

URL below is to home page for WCD 1179

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=11575

Edited by Robert Howard

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