Bill Miller

Below is an example of what Jack said cannot be done. Just swap the building for the train car seen in the Nix film and you have your proof that it looks closer than it really is because of the camera lens and not because a conspirator failed to alter the photo to get past Jack's eagle eye. Bill Miller

Shanet, you have a history of cheering on anything that looks fishy at a glance without so much as having an understanding why you think something is accurate, so let's wait to see if JL is able to understand the point I made by checking the images on a vertical plane rather than on a horizontal plane with one photogragher elevated so much higher in the air than the other. Bill Miller

Here is a fraction of the images I did in my study of the BDM. Go to Lancer at http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.p...ing_type=search

Craig, don't try and educate Jack for he knows it all. When I read Jack's nutty response to Groden today - Robert about blew a gasket. Jack can say what he wishes ... the things I said were things that Robert Groden told me and Robert has forgotten more than Jack will ever know when it comes to photography. Jack has spent so much time with his alteration game that he has forgotten most of what he once knew about the basics concerning camera lenses and what they do. Bill Miller

JL, you are attempting to match up the images on the horizontal, but because one photographer is so much higher in the air than the other - it will not work. Below is the same images done on a vertical level and they do match. As far as your patriot remark ... in the movie, JFK - Garrison asked when is killing a US President considered an act of patriotism? Sloppy research leaning towards conspiracy is not an act of patriotism. Bill Miller

Alfred Hitchcock used the foreshortening effect in many of his movies. In vertigo when Jimmy Stewart was having a vertigo attack - Jimmy stayed the same size while the background was growing larger - that is one example of something that you just said does not exist. The "Foreshortening effect" can be researched on the Internet by doing a simple google search. "Images taken with long telephoto lenses exhibit a characteristic perspective distortion known as compression of space. Objects that are actually far apart appear unusually close together, and observed texture gradients and optic flows impart a distorted sense of orientation and depth." Bill Miller

Chris, you may need to get use to Jack's way of double talking because one day he will say one thing and then the next time he will unknowingly contradict himself. The reason for the train looking so large in one camera compared to another is a type of foreshortening effect even though that is probably not the correct term to use. The camera lens magnifies the more distant objects and this is why in the Nix film for instance ... the train looks to be parked right behind the fence despite it actually being across the RR yard. Bill Miller

Millican said that he went "ON" back to work. He didn't try to account for every step he took before actually getting back to work. http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol19_0252b.htm Bill Miller

The blue box on the right supposedly shows the same section of fence in Willis 5 as in Moorman. But the box actually shows where the fence meets the overpass and that area is NOT visible in Moorman. Willis 5 shows shadow on the side of the fence just like Moorman. The same is true for the shadows on the concrete wall. Both the UPI Moorman photo and Willis 5 show the same shadows. Jack chose to use the AP version of Moorman and the tonal quality of that version is terrible. It is NOT an accurate copy of the original Polaroid.

xxxxx away, David ... you have nothing of value to offer this forum IMO. Bill Miller

See page 350 of "Pictures of the Pain" by Richard Trask. The picture on page 350 was taken the afternoon of the assassination and the RR car is still sitting where it was during the shooting. Bill Miller

Let the forum archive with your responses be all the evidence that I need .... everything said about you is a matter of forum record. "Let justice be done though the Heavens fall" Bill Miller

If only that were true, Peter. The illustration that you speak of has been done and is probably in this forum's archives. Below is one such example ... you will note that the lines pass through the same parts of the colonnade that the borders of the photos show. Bill Miller

Well, Jack ... you're the man! After all, wasn't it you that found the Elm Street midget. Bill Miller

Jack, this has been addressed many times to you. Can't you see the shelter is rotated between photos, thus the fields of view from the two photographers location would be different from one another. Did you never think to check this out during the many times that you have visited the plaza? Remember - you are supposed to be a master at understanding perspective. Bill Miller

Jack, I thought you mastered perspective? Moorman wasn't 15 feet behind the limo and the perspective lines across the car are not parallel. Z202 is seen from an even steeper angle, thus there should be no parallel lines connecting various points on the limo. Your line passing over Jackie's hat is incorrect and has nothing to do with the true perspective of that film frame. Bill Miller

David, I have seen perents have to tell their little kids not to worry about someone else, but to worry about themselves. You hardly have the right to bitch about others doing what you are also doing. You have made promises and not delivered on them, thus Len makes a good point. I realize that circumstances arise that prevents people from making deadlines and maybe this is what has happened with Zavada, but on the other hand I bet his tardiness won't be because he trolls forums and wasted a good portion of his time spanking his monkey. Bill Miller

Jack, there have been many good researchers who have pored over the assassination photos .... have you ever wondered why you are the only one who keeps making all theses alleged finds ??? Bill Miller

Jack, maybe I revel in finding errors just as you seem to revel in making them. Bill Miller

That is nice that you drew the lines out off the photo until they met, Jack, but as long as I used the matching points on the limo - there was no way for them not to meet. If you go back to post #1 - your two lines are running parallel to each other ... had you accounted for perspective (that thing you mastered) when talking about how things looked from Zapruder's view, then you would have drawn the correct line over Jackie and seen that JFK fell below it just as he does on the Willis photo. Bill Miller

Jack doesn't do studies ... he finds that his making up silly off-the-wall observations about things he cannot understand seems to take all of his energy. (The latest one being the 'plaza midget' observation) Bill Miller

Jack, I was referring to the woman in another thread that you claimed was black when in fact she was caucasian. It was the way she looked on film under the right lighting that caused you to make the error. I wanted to remind you of this so you would not make the same type of error.

Jack, to sensibly talk about 'perspective annomalies' ... one must first understand perspective and how it works. You have merely drawn two parallel lines across your image and not given any consideration that those lines are supposed to meet at a 'vanishing point' to be correct. I have offered a brief example of what you need to do to better understand perspective. Bill Miller

Are you sure that Mrs. Chism and her husband were an interracial couple, Jack ... or is this you once again calling any black person seen on film who has the sun shining off their skin ... a white person? Bill Miller