Harry J.Dean

Do not recall 'Mold' Did not meet 'Gale' I beleive {Lawrence 'Larry' Howard} also Loran 'Skip' Hall met Gale ? Harry

Thanks Christy. Wm. Morgan, as you know was a good friend. There was a time when the CIA wanted young men who had no home life or close to any type of normal background. They were the real "cut-outs". If one really wants to obtain a knowledge into the workings of the covert CIA and MI worlds of the time, then they should read the link you posted. This story, like most all our stories, will always be "Pro and Con", no records... no proven story... time is the key to truth.. Within the Morgan story, and his life, and others, are found the clues to Kennedy's death and the reasons. The foundation and the assassination were formed long before the shots were fired in Dallas. Thanks again, least we forget.. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A POEM About American, William Morgan of Toledo,Ohio, a Major in the Cuban Revolution holding equal military rank with Castro. I was under the Castro spell Until the day Bill Morgan fell Our friend Fidel had him shot down And burried under red Cuban ground. It was at La Cabana where he died The victim of true patriot pride, Trijillo the murderer tried to deal With Morgan, Castro's power to steal. Dominicans landed and died in Cuba's snare Not one Trijillo soldier did Castro spare Major Morgan, soldier and hero true Saved the Revolution, not else he would do. On Bill Morgan that history did hinge Then an angry U.S. State Dept went on a binge Morgan's citizenship they would revoke Knowing he'd soon die by this infamous hoax. The allpowerful will never show mercy To any who injure their conspiracies Many like Morgan will pay this price But will live on immortal the greater life! {c} Harry Dean Morgan as an officer of the Cuban Revolutionary Army, could not, would not agree with CIA {Central Intelligence Agency} to aid the Dominican dictator Trijillo, in the attempt to overthrow Castro's Government. Morgan informed Castro of the plan. The U.S. State Department then withdrew Morgan's citizenship while leaking false information to Castro that Morgan was working with CIA. Castro beleived the false information, then had Morgan arrested and executed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Harry. I had forgot about the poem. I had seen it once before. Do you know anything about Fred Black and Ed P Morgan? I think Ed Morgan used to be an FBI agent and was in Dallas in the forties, but not sure. Some years later he was used as a "cut-out" for the CIA, sort of a money man. Also anything on a Dallas Cuban by the name of (?) Luciano who knew Odio's father in Cuba and Rosellie's trips to Cuba in 1958? Any help would be appreciated. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tosh My areas of involvement were {mostly} Chicago/Cuba, first pro Castro, then anti-Castro, reporting to U.S. Intelligence. None of the names listed above are known to me. H.Dean I did not contact Morgan while in Cuba {July 1960} but was sweated by Cuba's G2 {since named DGI as you know} In looking back I still break a ' fearful sweat ' thinking about those lousy skunks at DGI. But my credentials cheated them, ie; {Francisco ' Frank ' Vega} just as Intelligence bet they would. Morgan was executed only a few months later. My fate would have been sealed and never got out of there if I had called on Morgan. Those bastards at G2 new every move I made, were sure I was CIA and said so. Later Vega sneaked into the U.S. and I gave him to my Intelligence Contacts! It remains always to me as terrific, to have cheated fate, and having put the screws to my former friends and associates of 26th Of July Movement, and their Network in the United States { The Fair Play for Cuba Committee } along with 'others' at Cuban G2=DGI headquarters who wanted to, and urged Vega have me shot just on suspicion. Did not intend here to get off track,and sorry could not be helpful. H. Dean <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Harry for the reply. I too, was Pro-Castro, (CIA) and after 59, anti Castro (CIA/MI) I too, knew of some of the "pit-falls" encountered in those years. We are both "lucky" if that is the word to use... heaven knows it was not because of our witts. The Good Lord takes care of stupid people. Right? On another matter: The M-26-7, Joe Westbrook Roseales, and others, also known as "The Students for a free Cuba" (DF) and the Palace Attack in Havana. Anything about the Humboldt Apartment complex? (1957) Do you know anything about this matter, or the gun-running to the students at the University? I am just tying to tie loose memories together. Its been a long time. Thanks for any help. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> William, Yes the good Lord as you say did take care of 'This' very stupid person. Humboldt apt. complex was not known to me. However the student Palace attack was certainly an inspiration to many in the U.S. and the begining of serious thinking by me to become in some way favorably involved. {1957}. You must know what we all must have later learned, that survivors of the palace deal were either killed during the actions, afterward the captured were either murdered, {they were the lucky ones} or lived, after {UNMENTIONABLE} kinds of torture, that continued by Batista's people throughout the revolution. I have since regreted the chunk of years and ' all ' involvements with ' Everything ' having to do with Cuba, likewise with U.S. Intelligence! Like many who have robbed their wives, and children, in the totally useless Cuban cause I am found guilty with each days passing! Even though I continue grateful to have survived many known and unknown dangers! H. Dean

Thanks Christy. Wm. Morgan, as you know was a good friend. There was a time when the CIA wanted young men who had no home life or close to any type of normal background. They were the real "cut-outs". If one really wants to obtain a knowledge into the workings of the covert CIA and MI worlds of the time, then they should read the link you posted. This story, like most all our stories, will always be "Pro and Con", no records... no proven story... time is the key to truth.. Within the Morgan story, and his life, and others, are found the clues to Kennedy's death and the reasons. The foundation and the assassination were formed long before the shots were fired in Dallas. Thanks again, least we forget.. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A POEM About American, William Morgan of Toledo,Ohio, a Major in the Cuban Revolution holding equal military rank with Castro. I was under the Castro spell Until the day Bill Morgan fell Our friend Fidel had him shot down And burried under red Cuban ground. It was at La Cabana where he died The victim of true patriot pride, Trijillo the murderer tried to deal With Morgan, Castro's power to steal. Dominicans landed and died in Cuba's snare Not one Trijillo soldier did Castro spare Major Morgan, soldier and hero true Saved the Revolution, not else he would do. On Bill Morgan that history did hinge Then an angry U.S. State Dept went on a binge Morgan's citizenship they would revoke Knowing he'd soon die by this infamous hoax. The allpowerful will never show mercy To any who injure their conspiracies Many like Morgan will pay this price But will live on immortal the greater life! {c} Harry Dean Morgan as an officer of the Cuban Revolutionary Army, could not, would not agree with CIA {Central Intelligence Agency} to aid the Dominican dictator Trijillo, in the attempt to overthrow Castro's Government. Morgan informed Castro of the plan. The U.S. State Department then withdrew Morgan's citizenship while leaking false information to Castro that Morgan was working with CIA. Castro beleived the false information, then had Morgan arrested and executed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Harry. I had forgot about the poem. I had seen it once before. Do you know anything about Fred Black and Ed P Morgan? I think Ed Morgan used to be an FBI agent and was in Dallas in the forties, but not sure. Some years later he was used as a "cut-out" for the CIA, sort of a money man. Also anything on a Dallas Cuban by the name of (?) Luciano who knew Odio's father in Cuba and Rosellie's trips to Cuba in 1958? Any help would be appreciated. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tosh My areas of involvement were {mostly} Chicago/Cuba, first pro Castro, then anti-Castro, reporting to U.S. Intelligence. None of the names listed above are known to me. H.Dean I did not contact Morgan while in Cuba {July 1960} but was sweated by Cuba's G2 {since named DGI as you know} In looking back I still break a ' fearful sweat ' thinking about those lousy skunks at DGI. But my credentials cheated them, ie; {Francisco ' Frank ' Vega} just as Intelligence bet they would. Morgan was executed only a few months later. My fate would have been sealed and never got out of there if I had called on Morgan. Those bastards at G2 new every move I made, were sure I was CIA and said so. Later Vega sneaked into the U.S. and I gave him to my Intelligence Contacts! It remains always to me as terrific, to have cheated fate, and having put the screws to my former friends and associates of 26th Of July Movement, and their Network in the United States { The Fair Play for Cuba Committee } along with 'others' at Cuban G2=DGI headquarters who wanted to, and urged Vega have me shot just on suspicion. Did not intend here to get off track,and sorry could not be helpful. H. Dean

Thanks Christy. Wm. Morgan, as you know was a good friend. There was a time when the CIA wanted young men who had no home life or close to any type of normal background. They were the real "cut-outs". If one really wants to obtain a knowledge into the workings of the covert CIA and MI worlds of the time, then they should read the link you posted. This story, like most all our stories, will always be "Pro and Con", no records... no proven story... time is the key to truth.. Within the Morgan story, and his life, and others, are found the clues to Kennedy's death and the reasons. The foundation and the assassination were formed long before the shots were fired in Dallas. Thanks again, least we forget.. Tosh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A POEM About American, William Morgan of Toledo,Ohio, a Major in the Cuban Revolution holding equal military rank with Castro. I was under the Castro spell Until the day Bill Morgan fell Our friend Fidel had him shot down And burried under red Cuban ground. It was at La Cabana where he died The victim of true patriot pride, Trijillo the murderer tried to deal With Morgan, Castro's power to steal. Dominicans landed and died in Cuba's snare Not one Trijillo soldier did Castro spare Major Morgan, soldier and hero true Saved the Revolution, not else he would do. On Bill Morgan that history did hinge Then an angry U.S. State Dept went on a binge Morgan's citizenship they would revoke Knowing he'd soon die by this infamous hoax. The allpowerful will never show mercy To any who injure their conspiracies Many like Morgan will pay this price But will live on immortal the greater life! {c} Harry Dean Morgan as an officer of the Cuban Revolutionary Army, could not, would not agree with CIA {Central Intelligence Agency} to aid the Dominican dictator Trijillo, in the attempt to overthrow Castro's Government. Morgan informed Castro of the plan. The U.S. State Department then withdrew Morgan's citizenship while leaking false information to Castro that Morgan was working with CIA. Castro beleived the false information, then had Morgan arrested and executed.

Bernice: 1. This is a forum and I responded to a post. If yours was meant exclusively for someone else, then a forum posting is not the appropriate methodology. There's this new thing called e-mail. I feel perfectly entitled to "insert" myself into any thread I choose. I believe that it was John Simkin who initiated this thread. I participate here at his invitation. 2. I did comment, and am commenting again now, on the tone of your certainty in saying "As we know...Walker played a role in the assassination of Kennedy." I responded to what seemed a rhetorical, "as we know." I didn't understand that you literally meant just you and Harry when you said, "as we know." Given that this is a forum, and I was behaving with forum etiquette, I thought you meant the collective "we." 3. You're taking exception to my statement, "This is the first that I've heard of Grinnan initiating the black-bordered ad AND supplying the money...." You referred me to a link to Weissman's testimony, as if to inform me of something that differs with what I said. Weissman's testimony about Joe Grinnan supplying the money is, "Now, as far as I know, Joe didn't put any of this money up personally...." 4. I concede that I probably shouldn't have jumped in on this one as I have forgotten much of what I once knew about Walker and the Birchers because of the conclusion I came to long ago that they were blustering small-timers. No wonder they call the John Birch Society a "fringe group." Chill <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bernice, Tim, & Shanet When R. Reagan was heading for Governor, Western Director of the Birch Society John Rousselot called Reagan saying; which way should the Society go, for or against you. We will follow your choice. When Goldwater was conservative candidate for president, he came out against the Birch Society, no doubt with the same offer. Goldwater openly snubbed Walker at a high level public political meeting. During these times, and until recently, I had been a life-long Conservative Republican associated with and working for the candidates mentioned here. If you wish to shine great light upon ' the total picture ' of what was in the works from the Cuba, Kennedy, domestic subversives and Intelligence activities. The CD named, York & The Rape Of Justice Connection to the JFK Assassination {from a M/S book I wrote in1990/91} with documents, can be gotten from the Rich DellaRosa JFK Forum. Harry

Harry, I understand that Grinnan was part of the group, with Weissman and Nelson Bunker Hunt. I was taking exception to the assertion that Grinnan specifically and individually "initiated" and paid for the black-bordered ad. I stand corrected about the 'Ole Miss trouble, which came very shortly after Walker's military career was ended as a result of his behavior in Germany. By the way, can you tell me what Walker specifically did in Mississippi that was so bizarre? Tim <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tim, Walker resigned from the military after being busted for {U.S. domestic ant-communist and anti-Russian Soviet campaigning} from his position in Germany so he could speak-out freely against Kennedy against what the Birch Society also called 'Kennedy Communist domestic and foreign policies'. Bob Kennedy had Walker tossed-in the federal mental ward for 'alleged' incitement to riot in making ant- administration statements,and simply because of his presence at the mississippi affair. Walker later sued a lot of people/organisations and won. H.Dean

Bernice, What difference does any of this make, other than your unqualified assertion that "As we know.....Walker played a role in the assassination of Kennedy"? This is the first that I've heard of Grinnan initiating the black-bordered ad AND supplying the money (since the "son of Haroldson L. Hunt," otherwise particularly known as NELSON BUNKER HUNT, as opposed to his other sons, Lamar and Herbert, was hardly penniless). But what about the assertion that the reason, as you say, that "Weissman was given the task of signing the advertisement" was that he had a Jewish name? When you say that Walker was "accused of indoctrinating his troops with right-wing literature," do you intend to question the legitimacy of that accusation? Have you seen the flyer Walker distributed to American troops under his command in Germany? Are you aware that Walker was committed to a mental institution as a result of his behavior in Germany? Bottom-line, other than your wild, unsupported assertion of Walker's supposed "role in the assassination," what is your point? Tim <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, Tim Grinnan and his group did do the black border ad,among other activities,and he was a Birch Society leader in Texas. Walker was tossed into a federal mental institution after and because of the Mississippi trouble in 1962. H.Dean

Did not know of Jonsson. Re; the subversive war being waged under the inflaming 'extreme influence' of Birch Society et al. literature, so-called apolitical/political efforts, and other more encouraged 'overt action' was aimed at the overthrough of the Status Que represented in Kennedy, Eisenhower and All, as far back as Roosevelt. In this Life or Death struggle to seize power, Kennedy, and the former system passed violently away. Note; Birch Society members were advised to follow instructions as individuals,not as representing the Society. That advise was strictly followed by the Dallas group and others you mentioned above. H.Dean

Probably bumped elbows with him, nothing more.

Yes, when nessasary for personal security reasons.

Thanks Harry, When Mold and Lechner visited Cesar Blanco and Paulino Sierra in Chicago to enlist their help, they allegedly claimed that their backers were "gamblers from the West." And they supposedly named Jake Lansky. Now, have you ever known Lechner to be involved with organized crime? If there were just the 4 of them at this meeting, how did the FBI know about this? Dave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do not know of Lechner being involved with organized crime. One must recall those times and seasons, that made strange bedfellows, out of necessity as the true saying goes. One of the four at that meeting let drop some info. to a confederate with a loose tongue. As an example, Any Cubans I knew, when elated always blabbed even deep secrets. H.Dean

The General said that he and his staff at first had tracked his attempted assassins to Southern California. I long ago saw a photo showing the licence plate number of that car. Someone aimed to hid it for whatever reason? Re; Milteer, it should be understood the Birch Society was a nationwide umbrella organization,and instigator over all anti-Communist/anti-Kennedy thoughts and deeds. The Society became to all who understood and followed, a spiritual/ superpatriotic driving force, that included those of good and/or bad intent. Milteer was one of them. H.Dean

Alhambra,CA {city} on the east border of Los Angeles, my 2nd hometown for several years. L.A. Stamp & Stationary, according to C. Holt a CIA front,' Holt said I operated from there ' I did not. Scimitar, not know to me. Dennise Curtain Studio, not know to me. Santa Barbara Airport, Goleta, not used by me. H.Dean

YES!

How are you, Harry! It's been a long time since you and I have been on the same forum. It's so nice to have you join up over here. Welcome! Warmest regards, Terry <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, Terry Thanks for the welcome note,nice to hear from you. H. Dean

How are you, Harry! It's been a long time since you and I have been on the same forum. It's so nice to have you join up over here. Welcome! Warmest regards, Terry <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, Terry Thanks for the welcome note, nice to hear from you. H. Dean

Wim From 1965 to 1980 my reason for placing flowers on Oswald's grave each year was to carry brief 'poignant' poetics, indicating his framing, also to provoke actions by authorities to open the archives! After 1980 I began a monthly tabloid newspaper to carry on that fight. H. Dean

Hi,again David I have not missed any of your posts. In answer to most of your questions I will say the following; I knew Dr. Lechner in passing, he was known and admired by all in radical conservative circles. I did not know of his Chicago connection{s}. I knew Walter Knott very well,and of his efforts in the movement. I knew Herb Phibrick casually,and exchanged Christmas card yearly. ACFC,American Committee To Free Cuba,was an invention of The John Birch Society. I Knew Gen. Walker well. I knew John Rousselot well. I knew Steve Foot casually. I knew Jose Norman well. I knew Loran Hall,activities,speaches et al. well. There are others in the ultra conservative 'combination'/movement known by me also. Harry

John The writer, W. R. Morris made such statements and attributed them to me {after we appeared on what was called the TOM SNYDER SHOW in New York} I refused to cooperate with him about writing a book. [We fell out]. He continued to write and involve me, using much of his own information and ideas which I 'much later' discovered. The 'exact information' is on the CD ROM titled ' YORK AND THE RAPE OF JUSTICE Connection to The JFK Assassination ' M/S Book I had to write in 1991. You can use the section of that CD pertaining to it's entire, documented facts, on your JFK site for the benifit of your interested members if you wish. The CD will answer all questions much better than I can here. Sincerely, Harry Dean.

My name is Harry J.Dean and was involved in Cuba/JFK affairs.