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@Mods: The threat should be renamed: Who trusted Mary Ferrell, and can we trust the Ferrell Foundation. I think the two topics belong together.
I was stunned, when I first saw prove of heavy online-document tampering of the MFF, which is a site where a lot of researchers bank on. I was stunned when JVB, who discovered this tampering, mentioned it to Jefferson Morley, who declined to go into that strange little thing, and said just words to the effect: There is no tampering at MFF, and it's boss, my Friend Rex Bradford is a good guy. Maybe. But in fact there IS a document alteration and it would be nice, when somebody of that Foundation would come forward to explain it.
Me too I thought, Mary Ferrell was an honest Cter.
Then I read INTO THE NIGHTMARE, where Joseph McBride writes a whole Chapter called THE GATEKEEPER, about her, accusing her of a DISHONEST MODUS OPERANDI, in her dealings with fellow researchers, which convinced me, that Mary Ferrell was one of the biggest moles in the CTer community ever. Note: among her friends were Hugh Aynsworth, Gary Mack and Barb Junkarrinnen. During the Garrison case, she served as FBI informant, and she was a member of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers AFIO, founded, yes, by David Atlee Philips. She was a lifelong Republican who disliked Kennedy.
Dallas Tippit researcher Greg Lowrey said to McBride: "She hated Kennedy, it was no secret."
Mary Ferrell was involved in the DPD Audio-tape hoax, (together with Gary Mack) she was involved in the Roscoe White hoax---she was, somehow involved in a campain to smear JVB...
Not only Joseph McBride and Lowery had strange experiences with her. JVB had it. Dawn Meredith had it...
Wouldn't be online document tampering of a site of a Foundation namend after her the natural sequel of Marys DISHONEST MODUS OPERANDI? I think so.
KK
Regarding the Garrison investigation and Mary's alleged FBI informant status one of the things JImmy told me was that she actually sent him to NO as her spy to help sabotage Garrison's investigation. And he told me the reason she tried to get me to come to her house was two fold: to take a photo as she takes photos of everyone and investigates them, but...(and this is going to sound very strange I know) that she was a practicing witch, and needed a photo for this purpose. Jimmy talked about all of these things and more on several occasions. Rachel (Rendish) has talked with him about writing something with her, to the effect of growing up with Mary and her true role in the JFK assassination.
Dawn
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Bumping this.....
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A domestic coup by LBJ w/CIA, MI, TX oil.
MI = Military Industrial complex?
yes, i can see this. It falls in line with Carl Oglesby's Yankee/Cowboy theory, which is one of the books i was weaned on.
and now i'm going slowly through R Bartholomew's UT stuff - and THAT circle of shiny people - Dulles, Paines, et al. (the Cubans and Sturgis, Loran Hall...), I'm thinking that this flows pretty well with LBJ's interests.
it's a blast working through all this.
Wow, Oglesby is quite the place to start one's study. Count yourself very lucky to have found this wonderful book. Carl was my very first conspiracy friend (1973) and we remained very close until his sad death in 2011. My copy of his book is falling apart but I will never part with it. (lots of mushy stuff written on the inside makes it extra special). It really connected a lot of dots and is beautifully written. Carl was the only person I have ever known who actually spoke the same way he wrote: with brilliance and elegance. It's still hard for me to believe I can't just pick up the phone and discuss the state of the case, or our kids, or today's marriage equality decision.
And Richard B was my first Austin conspiracy friend. His manuscript is full of info but needs a road map to keep all of the names straight. I have not read it in a very long time. Sad that the Rambler is lost, just in case it did have a connection. All the stuff in the backseat certainly suggests some connection to 11/22/63, even if not Ruth Paine's car. And who- and why- ripped out all the pages at the Liab? This case has more mystery than any novel could ever contrive. You can literally lose decades of your life studying it.
Dawn
Dawn, I'm so glad you you responded - I remember that I had seen in another thread that someone here knew Carl personally, and I've been dying to remember who it was (without coming out and asking).
I've sent you a PM if you don't mind, as I left topic a bit in my ramblings of Carl Oglesby. ---
Darn: Not sure what the deal is with the PM system here but did not receive one from you. My email address is dmeredith@austin.rr.com. Can you resend. Thanx. Always happy to chat about Carl. Yankee/Cowboy got posted here- the first several chapters- via he and I am John Simkin for scanning it many years ago, 06 I believe.
Dawn
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A domestic coup by LBJ w/CIA, MI, TX oil.
MI = Military Industrial complex?
yes, i can see this. It falls in line with Carl Oglesby's Yankee/Cowboy theory, which is one of the books i was weaned on.
and now i'm going slowly through R Bartholomew's UT stuff - and THAT circle of shiny people - Dulles, Paines, et al. (the Cubans and Sturgis, Loran Hall...), I'm thinking that this flows pretty well with LBJ's interests.
it's a blast working through all this.
Wow, Oglesby is quite the place to start one's study. Count yourself very lucky to have found this wonderful book. Carl was my very first conspiracy friend (1973) and we remained very close until his sad death in 2011. My copy of his book is falling apart but I will never part with it. (lots of mushy stuff written on the inside makes it extra special). It really connected a lot of dots and is beautifully written. Carl was the only person I have ever known who actually spoke the same way he wrote: with brilliance and elegance. It's still hard for me to believe I can't just pick up the phone and discuss the state of the case, or our kids, or today's marriage equality decision.
And Richard B was my first Austin conspiracy friend. His manuscript is full of info but needs a road map to keep all of the names straight. I have not read it in a very long time. Sad that the Rambler is lost, just in case it did have a connection. All the stuff in the backseat certainly suggests some connection to 11/22/63, even if not Ruth Paine's car. And who- and why- ripped out all the pages at the Liab? This case has more mystery than any novel could ever contrive. You can literally lose decades of your life studying it.
Dawn
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Larry During the 80's I enjoyed a lovely relationship with Mary, Nothing frequent, just some correspondence and some calls. She was very charming and I, like everyone in the community, had nothing but total request for her. Then in late June of 1990 I moved to Austin. Didn't know hardly anyone here. When the Roscoe White story broke BIG I had a very strange experience with Mary over the phone. She wanted me to come to Dallas and "cover they story" for her. Told me she could not get time off from work. That seemed very odd. A few days earlier while at a friend's birthday party my car was crashed in a hit and run, so it was in the shop being repaired. I did not have a car to get to Dallas I told her. (Had not yet gotten a rental). I was working at t law firm and was required to use a computer and word perfect, something I had never done before. So in her insistence that I come to Dallas, she asked me to come to her home and she would give me the word perfect program and teach me how to manage it. It all struck me as strange, she was TOO demanding and it made no sense why she could not get across town- or wherever- and gather all the information she needed on this seemingly big break in the case.
I would meet Jimmy Ferrell, who was and is a good friend of Rachel Rendish, seven years later and learned a lot. (For one thing there was a specific "reason" according to Jimmy that she requested me to come to her home.)
End of hijack. I have the upmost respect for Rex and her research is very valuable. I only brought up Mary herself because KK re- posted Joe McBride's own experiences and observations. Which triggered my own memories, and all the stuff her son told me on the many occasions I saw him, usually up at Jay Harrison's/.
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Joseph McBride:
My personal dealings with Mary Ferrell quickly alerted me to her duplicity. My investigative reporter's
instincts for a phony quickly kicked in, and I began investigating her background and MO. I go into this in detail in the book and can only summarize it here. I concluded that she was what fellow Tippit researcher Greg Lowrey called "The Gatekeeper," the person delegated by the U.S. government to keep tabs on what genuine researchers and others were doing. She doled out documents and other information to maintain the facade of being a researcher, but she had intelligence connections and spread disinformation. She also actively disliked John F. Kennedy.
Penn Jones warned me to stay away from her. He was a great journalist who was a maverick and was on the case from the first weekend. He turned up many important leads for the rest of us to follow. He made some mistakes and was sometimes sloppy. But he was intrepid, fearless, shrewd, and hard-digging. He was an inspiration to me and many others and was a mentor to me and a friend.
Edited by Joseph McBride, 18 July 2013 - 09:27 AM.
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Quote Joseph McBride
Originally Posted by Joseph McBride on DP Forum
Mary Ferrell once tried to recommend to me John K. Lattimer'sLINCOLN AND KENNEDY: MEDICAL AND BALLISTIC COMPARISONS
OF THEIR ASSASSINATIONS as the best study of the medical
evidence in the JFK assassination. I had read it, so this was one
of the moments when I was alerted to her true nature as a
disinformation specialist.
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Judyth Baker discovered that somebody at the Ferrell Foundation is altering evidence:
quote JVB (about her work at Reillys/NOLA with Oswald...)
...I have 11. Hired the same day, May 9, 1963, by Wm. B. Reilly as was Lee Oswald. Started at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary to Reilly, the same day. Moved, one week later, on the same day, May 16, to Reilly from Standard with Lee. My initial ‘J’ is on most of Lee’s time cards, though two “J’s’ were recently erased at the Mary Ferrell Foundation site (the originals as in National Archives remain unchanged).
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KK
Joseph was commenting on Mary herself, not the current foundation. And I was told by her son Jimmy in 1997 not to trust her. And he gave me plenty of reasons.
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I hated receiving all those memes on Facebook about both Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing (and now, unfortunately, a few about Charleston) with photos of people who vaguely (VERY VAGUELY) look like the victims, wherein the person sending them claims they are still living. Disgusting. Hello, people- sometimes a duck is a duck--mass murders, lone nuts, and non-conspiracies do happen. Not everything is a false flag fake conspiracy.
The book that totally debunks the 9/11 truther crap- it will make you cry if you believe that junk:
http://www.amazon.com/Eleventh-Day-Full-Story-11/dp/0812978099/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
Oh, please, Vince - Why do you see 1963 but deny 2001? And on the strength of this book?
As I said the last time I criticized this work and one of its authors growled litigiously - Readers, judge for yourself. But do it at the library.
Vince then tell me how building 7 fell? And how did a tv station in England (not positive of the place) know this would occur and so report before it happened? The evidence for conspiracy on 9-11 is overwhelming.
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I don't understand the "staged event" angle used in these claims of false flag operations. Cold-blooded or psychopathic government operatives are perfectly capable of shooting 20 children and teachers in a schoolhouse or 9 people in a churchhouse using a "lone nut" or patsy (just like they're perfectly capable of killing a planeload of innocent people to rub out one particular person). Why in the world would they go to the unbelievably complicated trouble of faking the deaths?
They wouldn't, which is why the stuff Jones and Fetzer are putting out is so crazy. I do believe a lot of terrible things about the powers that be but I don't think the Sandy Hook shooter was a "Patsy" nor was the church shooter. In my opinion.
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Nanny's never-before-seen private photos of JFK, Jackie, and their children
Daily Mail
June 24, 2015
Brings tears to my eyes. Thanks for posting Doug.
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I was just about to post about this at DPF and here but first I wanted to listen to Fetzer's video on facebook. So doing was slowing down my husband's computer as he prepares for the second half of a trial this afternoon and needs to be able to quickly access his email. So without seeing any of Fetzer's evidence, aside from a FB story yesterday that the church needed repairs, I wanted to make a few comments. I find this beyond outrageous. I consider Alex Jones and James Fetzer agents now. They did the same thing with Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon shooting. While good investigative researchers like Russ Baker and others were quick to point out many problems with the Marathon story only people like Fetzer said the victims were all actors and had no injuries, or - at Sandy Hook- not killed. While driving to court this morning the news reported that some of the Marathon victims spoke at the sentencing, and mentioned one in particular who had a prosthetic leg, and another who had lost one leg and has serious damage to the other. I also heard on the news that people were viewing the dead body of the Pastor. So does Fetzer think this Pastor is just playing dead? Or that it is a dummy in the casket? Has he flipped his lid totally or is he doing this in order to make all conspiracy researchers look silly? It is certainly unsettling to see all those who are agreeing with him on facebook.
An angry young man killed black people in prayer. It happened. No one here was a "crisis actor".
Dawn
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Greg: JA is no guru. Unlike you he is a very nice person. I'm done here. We saw your agenda at DPF and got rid of you. So you and your followers make fun of DPF. Go for it dude. Some of us actually care about the assassination of JFK and what was done to frame LHO. I posted as I was walking out the door TO WORK/ Ya the job you seem to find so amusing. "Layer". I have the highest degree you can obtain, a JD. What do YOU do for a living when not stalking Albert Doyle. (Rhetorical question as I don't give a xxxx). Let's leave it at this: I don't think you care a damn about the truth. You can, of course, have the last word as I will not ever reply to you again.
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This guy here?
No good acting all innocent now, Bob. That "bump" was a provocation. You know it. Dawn knows it. And everyone reading this thread knows it.
I simply wanted to comment on Dr Crenshaw. It was not a "provocation". The stuff I added after that was in reference to a different thread, Bernie's comments. I am not the one posting "bump". But I was glad it was bumped as Dr Crenshaw is someone worth listening to.
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Steve,
I understand Landesberg said Perry was from Texas. What I don't see is an FBI document that says Earl Eugene Perry is from Texas. It looks to me like the FBI conducted a good investigation until they aborted because Landesberg recanted. They looked at about 4 different Earl Perrys by my count. I will look at all of this more closely when preparing my rebuttal article. Thanks for your help.
In April, 1962 LEE Harvey Oswald visited the Texas Employment Commission in Ft. Worth and filled out form E-40a, Aptitude Profile Test (APT) B-1002 and the Occupational Aptitude Pattern test (OAP). This document was printed on page 491 in volume 19 (WarrenVolumes). But when this document was filled out by LEE Harvey Oswald in Ft. Worth, HARVEY Oswald and his wife and daughter were living in Russia
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CANT WAIT TO READ IT, gaal
Steve, I find your posts very hard to follow due to the big then small font, different colors. The one above is great. I hope you will continue to submit evidence that CANNOT be refuted in this fashion.
I will speak with John today while driving down to court about his lack of references in this document since that seems to be a point of contention here. I know he some updated information to add to this based on a call I received from him yesterday. I am not at liberty to address it til he gets the actual physical evidence, if said person will part with it. Of course none of it will stop the anti JA posts. He could have an FBI agent on video saying "Yes we knew there were two and it was a problem we had to cope with" and the troops would still yell fowl.
Dawn
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My Count, let me know if anyone disputes anything:
Pro-H&L
Hargrove
Josephs
Gaal
Blank
Mitcham
Jeffries
Tidd
Against-H&L
Parker
Parnell
Sorensen
Graves
Brancato
Kamp
Loney
Kinaski
Carroll
Laverick
Speer
Dolva
Charles-Dunn
Cohen
Murr
Healy
Currently 16-7, I had Tidd wrong.
As silly as I think this is, please add my name to the pro side, also Mike Hogan, who no longer posts here. I received a lovely email from him yesterday to this effect, as well as several others he for whom he bought the book and are pro H and L. So this really is just a poll of who posts here. Most of the serious researchers I know do not post on forums, and are pro H and L. So this poll is really meaningless in the long run.
Dawn
"As silly as I think this is" It's only "silly" because you're losing by 16-8 - a ratio of two to one. That you are actually concerned about it is shown by trying to include non-posters in the count.
"Most of the serious researchers I know do not post on forums, and are pro H and L" What a slight you have just delivered to your brethren at the DeepFoo! But I'm curious, Dawn, to know who these researchers are that stay in the background. So... who are they and what happens with all the great research they do? Does it just collect dust in their garages? Is it shared privately, never to see the public light of day? Is it done on behalf of authors and/or journals - and if so, where can I read some examples? This is all very exciting! It's like learning about a lost tribe in darkest Africa! Please Dawn, tell me more!
"So this poll is really meaningless in the long run." which you are desperate to win, or to disparage if you don't. We get it already!
Just off the to of my head: Walt Brown, Steven Jones, Mili Cranor, Jerry Policoff, Richard Bartholomew, Lisa Pease. I did not say they "stay in the background" I said they don't post on forums. And I do consider the people at DPF serious researchers too, but I know many many more who refuse to come to forums for this very reason. Being attacked, wasting time arguing with people who will only twist their words.
Or just dealing with nasty like yourself. I find it interesting that you and your forum buds make fun of me due to my profession. I am sure you have searched long and hard to try to find some "dirt" on me in that regard, but there is none. So the worst you can do is refer to the fact that I am "busy". I have no clue what your or Bart or Farley etc. do for a living. You could be a garbage man for all I know or a hit man but I would not waste time making fun of it. How childish.
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He's totally credible in my opinion. Let's not forget the JAMA lawsuit which was also settled in his favor. A brave good man who finally told his true story. I read his book a long time ago and thought it was explosive.
Dawn
FWIW: I don't engage with those who try to bait me. In the last 24 hours Greg Parker and now this guy here. I READ Harvey and Lee. It was years ago that I made that comment. And AM not interested in reading the links Greg provided or reading his forum. And I don't give a rat's ass if somebody does not believe that Mike Hogan wrote me. I am not a xxxx. So throw your knives, I will not respond in kind. Or at all. Sorry.
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My Count, let me know if anyone disputes anything:
Pro-H&L
Hargrove
Josephs
Gaal
Blank
Mitcham
Jeffries
Tidd
Against-H&L
Parker
Parnell
Sorensen
Graves
Brancato
Kamp
Loney
Kinaski
Carroll
Laverick
Speer
Dolva
Charles-Dunn
Cohen
Murr
Healy
Currently 16-7, I had Tidd wrong.
As silly as I think this is, please add my name to the pro side, also Mike Hogan, who no longer posts here. I received a lovely email from him yesterday to this effect, as well as several others he for whom he bought the book and are pro H and L. So this really is just a poll of who posts here. Most of the serious researchers I know do not post on forums, and are pro H and L. So this poll is really meaningless in the long run.
Dawn
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Your obsession with Harvey and Lee is beyond all reason. It's as if you have a vested interest in discrediting John Armstrong. You've "proven" nothing here to any person who is knowledgeable with the subject matter, despite all your claims of victory, the blind support of your rooting section, and the poll you started. Instead, you're starting to make this place a laughingstock. I'm sure that Tracy Parnell is not the only lone nutter to approve of your work here.
John Armstrong produced a huge volume that unearthed a great deal of important information. Serious researchers understand this, even if they don't agree with the overall theory. You, however, are absolutely obsessed with trying to destroy his work. You may have a few loyal followers to continue to yell "Attaboy." but you are simply discrediting yourself as a researcher. However you look at it, everything you write seems to be an attempt to dilute the case for conspiracy.
Of course he has a vested interest: his own book. Same vested interest David Lifton has, if his LHO book actually ever comes out.
I ventured over there yesterday and the low level of discourse was ....ah, I have no word to describe it. Nasty comes the closest. And as far as possible from "deeply political". PDS would not be impressed, I'd wager.
Dawn
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I guess some long-timers like me, including some well-known names on a list-bot, feel a need to be be highly skeptical of any late-arriving claimant to have been a witness. After such a long time, the onus is on them to prove their bonfides. By the same token, I think we feel a need to wave a caution flag when the bonafides don't inspire confidence. You're free to believe whomever you want, but there is some value in consulting the perspective and wisdom of those have been at this for a long time. I can't think of any respected researcher who endorses him.
I don't wish to get involved in a time-consuming, multi-post, multi-page debate over many weeks. I first saw Lewis on a program hosted by James Earl Jones. I bought Flashback, looking for anything to corroborate it. Nothing. Nada. Nobody had ever heard of him. Worse still (and this is subjective), I just got the feeling, like Henry Lee said, of "something wrong."
I agree, very little sounded credible to me as well. In particular the above, or any notion that he shot at Walker, or tried to get him to hijack a plane to Cuba. Just for starters. And don't even get me started about Files. Does anyone but Wim , who paid LOTS of money for this bogus story, believe a word of that bs?
Dawn
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Manson was a nice guy who pleaded he himself killed no one, nor ordered any of his followers to - so I have no qualms about accepting what you say.
Why am I not surprised at ANOTHER meaningless response from the man DOWN UNDER!
And a Bugliosi groupie, to boot!
You seeing this Vanessa? And you want John to "debate" someone who compares him to Manson? A poll? Why does Greg have such an obsession with John? It's very very odd. o he does a poll here where there are a bunch of lone nutters to begin with and declares victory. "Education" indeed.
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Ok, we (the CT'rs) believe that many of the LN'rs are shills for somebody. Who? For what purpose? Is their purpose nefarious?
The ones who haunt the forums are possible paid to infiltrate and spread lies. So yes their purpose is nefarious. Last week I was friended on fb by another atty - someone I do not know- and when I made my status about the assassination, he began posting stupid crap. So we got into an IM discussion for a few days, but his reasoning was circular. Warren was a good man, therefore there was no conspiracy. And argued that the media would never cover it up. So there are lots of lone nuts who remain ignorant on purpose. In my thirty years as an attorney I have seen much of this with people who have higher education. They are just so invested in the system and will not read anything that will rock their boat. Frustrating. I could not get this atty to even read an Amazon review of JFKU. It had to be a New York times review. So I gave up communicating with him. Waste of time.
Dawn
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I have been told by someone whom I consider a reliable source that the publisher has cancelled this book. Can anyone else confirm this? (I am no longer in touch with Joan due to some of the outrageous things she said about two dear friends, now deceased in said book)
Thanks,
Dawn
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I would ask why would Dawn post here, when she has had so many bad things to say about the place.
I have been a member here since 2004. Just because I have no use for the lone nut position does not mean I can't post here. Many post on more than one forum.
Dawn
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Are you asking why I come to this group? To share research and discussion, and I often learn stuff or get insights from hearing all different points of view. That's one of the things I like about this forum. And I share stuff about my area of interest, New Orleans, from time to time.
Third try: Do you agree with DVP's LN views? THAT is what I asked both times above. The question you have ignored.
Dawn
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I think it's strange because he's the only one ever asked that question. Nobody asks Jon, you or me that question.
That only answers the strange part, but not if you support DVP's view. Why do you not answer that question.
My views are well known, so there is no reason to ask me this question.
Dawn
Can we trust the Ferrell Foundation?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Have not trusted Judyth in a very long time. I did in 04 and tried to help her with a matter, but then began having doubts that continued. She has a need to insert herself into every aspect of this case and I now doubt she even worked with "Harvey". (Based on the work of David Josephs and phony IRS documents she has produced).