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    NASA - The REAL Conspiracy

    in The Apollo Moon Landings

    Posted

    Of course conversions can be made - and very precise ones too. In fact, most scientists in the USA use and train in the metric system for virtually all their work, but since the society at large is using the 'silly system' it is always possible somewhere someone can enter in a silly system number and the others will assume it is metric and cause confusion to catastrophe! There was a Bill to change America to the metirc system and Reagan stopped it just before it was to take effect - for [he said] reaons of the economy. No one in the USA has seriously brought it up again...sadly.

    Institutional - or societal - inertia. I saw in Arizona that they were introducing speed limit signs / distance signs in metric; I appreciated this.

    Do you think that it would be possible to introduce some type of economic imperative? Could a refusal by extra-national suppliers to provide "imperial" goods force the US to make the change, or would it spur "isolationism production"?

    Me and my shadows

    in The Apollo Moon Landings

    Posted

    Just a reminder to everyone:

    (iv) Members should not make personal attacks on other members. Nor should references be made to their abilities as researchers. Most importantly, the motivations of the poster should not be questioned. At all times members should concentrate on what is being said, rather than who is saying it. It is up to the reader to look at the biography submitted by the poster, to judge whether they are telling the truth or not. The word “xxxx” is banned from use on the forum.

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    NASA - The REAL Conspiracy

    in The Apollo Moon Landings

    Posted

    Evan, I dont don't know. but in when doing engineering and science type stuff (post metric conversion) that involves a measurement precicion standard in fine tool setting work and machining, vernier calipers, rulers etc, in many cases the imperial system provides a finer gradation, and if that is the original standard as it was/is inthe US ( I mean we still say 4'b2's over here dont we? etc) then it seems a good idea to keep at it.

    The translation is obviously an important thing. :)

    (We do some pretty silly things here too. Remember the Microwave Stations east-west?

    INLINE to start with??? so each had to deal with a continuous blurry noise/echo, before someone figured out to stagger them?)

    John,

    Can't conversions be made? I'm not an engineer but why oh why are they still imperial when the rest of the world has moved on?

    IMPORTANT NOTICE - 9/11 THREADS

    in 11 September 2001 attacks

    Posted

    Peter,

    Then I suggest you do it. We have posts / threads dealing with the same subject all over the place. I am more than happy to leave it in your hands, but I think it needs to be done. Perhaps you'd like to suggest a new topic list?

    As always, no posts will be deleted; it's just they be placed in an area where you can find the resources you need.

    IMPORTANT NOTICE - 9/11 THREADS

    in 11 September 2001 attacks

    Posted · Edited by Evan Burton

    There are so many threads on 9-11 that often on the same topic, it is becoming difficult to refer to previous material. Therefore over the upcoming weeks I am going to try to separate the 9-11 threads into a semblance of order. I'll merge threads / posts under appropriate heading.

    The major topics I suggest are as follows:

    9/11 - The Accused (the 19 hijackers & any backers)

    9/11 - The Unaccused (people you think are responsible - Bush, Cheney, etc. Includes reasons & motivation for MIHOP / LIHOP)

    9/11 - Other players (people involved in pre / post 9-11, when what they say does not fit into another topic)

    9/11 - Air defences and official reactions to the hijackings (general stuff about how they got through, suspicions of a stand down, etc)

    9/11 - The Pentagon

    9/11 - World Trade Center - General

    9/11 - WTC 1 & 2

    9/11 - WTC 6

    9/11 - WTC 7

    9/11 - Flight 93

    9/11 - General

    If anyone can suggest other topics, or revisions of the ones suggested here, it would be appreciated.

    Once we have finalised the list, the mods on this sub-board will start to move stuff around as we get the time & inclination. This may take some time, but eventually you'll be able to more easily find material you want.

    Thanks!

    FBI, the mob, and 9/11

    in 11 September 2001 attacks

    Posted

    Tom,

    Sorry about that! You can normally see if someone is posting in a thread (their name, at the bottom of the page, appears in italics) but I didn't actually check when I was merging. My apologies.

    Re: Peter's editing. Peter may not have actually changed anything, but the software records that he went into edit mode on that post, and then hit the save / complete edit button. Since Peter says he didn't do any editing, I suspect he just accidentally hit the edit button on your post (perhaps thinking it was his post) and instead of canceling out, he hit complete edit. When you have these new controls, it's easy to make a mistake like that!

    Peter: if you do make an edit on a post, give a warning, etc, on this sub-forum, could you record your action in the MODERATOR'S ACTIONS thread at the top of the page. You use your MODERATION OPTIONS at the bottom left of the page, select OPEN THIS TOPIC, then select GO. You can then post in the thread. When you have finished, select CLOSE THIS TOPIC from the MODERATION OPTIONS and hit GO to close the thread again.

    I sort of got lazy and didn't fill it out when an action was taken, but a couple of people have asked that it be used again. That way everyone can see if any moderation actions were taken, and why.

    FBI, the mob, and 9/11

    in 11 September 2001 attacks

    Posted · Edited by Evan Burton

    Peter is also a moderator. If it is his belief that a post is in violation of forum rules or requires editing, he has the power to do that. Also, if he feels that editing a post might make the post more legible, etc, then he can also do that. In the later case, he might be asked to explain what changes were made if the poster felt that an explanation was needed.

    A reminder to all Mods: if we take a moderation action, please try to record it in the Moderator Actions thread at the top of the page. This is not compulsory, but done as an action in accountability for all Forum users.

    While yes I can, I have edited no posts, made no other actions - other than two warnings - both of which were heeded. So, don't know what the discussion is about.

    That's not correct Peter. The Forum has recorded your actions:

    peterspostediting.jpg

    I don't know what you did, but you did edit a post. The post in question is:

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=168887

    FBI, the mob, and 9/11

    in 11 September 2001 attacks

    Posted · Edited by Evan Burton

    Peter is also a moderator. If it is his belief that a post is in violation of forum rules or requires editing, he has the power to do that. Also, if he feels that editing a post might make the post more legible, etc, then he can also do that. In the later case, he might be asked to explain what changes were made if the poster felt that an explanation was needed.

    A reminder to all Mods: if we take a moderation action, please try to record it in the Moderator Actions thread at the top of the page. This is not compulsory, but done as an action in accountability for all Forum users.

    Latest Apollo study

    in The Apollo Moon Landings

    Posted

    Jack: I presume that - as per normal - you'll not admit that your anonymous person has made an error? Even when the evidence is beyond dispute?

    Whatever shortcomings the visual evidence display pro- or con- actual landings, it is hard to believe we went to the moon *that many times.*

    An enormous siphon of cash into defense contracting and the black budget instead?

    And was that how JFK wanted it?

    The people of Apollo would disagree; to paraphrase Gene Cernan "We stopped, just when we getting good at it!".

    The budget cuts killed Apollo 18, 19 and 20, and some of that was no doubt for the Vietnam War. Even so, there were many in NASA who were fearful that something bad would happen eventually, that we shouldn't "push our luck". There were calls to stop even after Apollo 12!

    FBI, the mob, and 9/11

    in 11 September 2001 attacks

    Posted

    PETER DALE SCOTT:

    My public position is:

    1) I only know that we don’t know how the towers came down, and that there has been a cover-up.

    2) I have challenged what I consider to be the false dilemma that either 19 Muslims were responsible, or else the Bush-Cheney White House was.

    I have suggested that there could be a third possibility – a covert meta-group, possibly drug-linked, bridging both US intelligence and the jihadist movement we call al Qaeda.

    “Deep states” have murdered innocents before, and EPA plus the hapless Bush himself may prove to be responsible for even more deaths than 9/11, because of their suppression of the health warnings about Ground Zero.

    If that is his public position, then I don't have too much of a disagreement.

    - "we don’t know how the towers came down"

    Technically correct. The exact mechanism is not necessarily known; the general sequence of events is.

    - "there has been a cover-up"

    I support this, but with a caveat to ensure my position is not misunderstood. I think that the failures or incompetency of some people - probably politically connected - were covered up, so they were not held to account. This is something governments, businesses, organisations, groups, etc, have been doing for decades. I do not believe there is any attempt to cover up a 'deliberate' attempt to assist the terrorists, etc, because I don't believe there has been any.

    - "I have challenged what I consider to be the false dilemma that either 19 Muslims were responsible, or else the Bush-Cheney White House was"

    I can agree almost with this. I have always said it is possible that a group (government connected or not) posed as a supporting organisation and financed / directed the attackers.

    I note with interest that none of his positions require the use of a missile instead of an aircraft, laser beams, holographic aircraft, planted charges in buildings, falsified images, morphed voices, lies about telephone conversations, etc.

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