Adam Wilkinson
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I have heard that the death of Elvis was linked to that of JFK. I have no evidence for this, but was curious to know if anybody else had heard this theory? Apparently Elvis attempted to lead an investigation into the death of JFK. As I have said, I am not sure how true this is, and would like some feedback.
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something might have been thrown from the plane at JFK, weird.
I think the idea of something being thrown from the plane and killing Kennedy is a bit farfetched, although I would not rule out anything. As others have said, I have also heard a report that there was a light aircraft in the vicinity. It makes me question why an air exclusion zone was not established.
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John and others, if you have not already, I suggest you read a book called The Texas Connection: the assassination of John F. Kennedy by Craig I. Zirbel, an excellent read with some intriguing information.
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I am only just a new member, but I enjoy coming here to read others opinions, and for some mental stimulation.
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Just thought I would start a new topic.
Where were you on the day JFK was assassinated?
How did you hear about the news?
Neither of these questions apply to me as it happened 24 years before I was born.
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The events I would like to have witnessed or been in presence at is the tearing down of the Berlin Wall, the assassination of JFK, signing of the emancipation proclamation and to have managed the Beatles before they became famous, might have made a few more dollars than I am currently earning now!
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How about finding out who "deepthroat" really is? The one that helped Woodward and Bernstein crack watergate.
Your wish has come true, we now know who he is!
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Why only witness? What historical event would want to stop from happening, or change in any way?
That's easy Marco - the re-election of George W Bush
Hahaha, funny, good one Andy.
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I agree that Nelson Mandela and Gandhi. Should be near the top. Gandhi because of the methods he used to gain power, Mandela because of the way he behaved once in power. Gandhi is important because he influenced that other giant of 20th century politics, Martin Luther King.
My most admired figures in history are nobody original, Mandela would definately be at the top or near the top of my list, along with Martin Luther King and Gandhi.
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We are all learners. We are all amateurs [in both the literal and colloquial sense of the word]. We are all researchers for what is life itself but one long research? Let us have no bogus and spurious hierarchy of 'biographies' in this forum. As for your disdain for graffiti I feel it is unfounded. There is a lot to be said for graffiti which 'scratches' the surface to reveal deeper truths.
The problems created by people insisting on remaining anonymous can be found here:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2433
It seems Gibson was not telling the truth. Your decision not to post your details can only create suspicion about your motives for refusing to abide by forum rules. Maybe you just like playing the role of being a naughty boy. In truth, I could not care less what you do. The rest of the forum do not seem to be influenced by your behaviour and are posting their biographies and photos.
I do agree with John here, a photograph and biography add credibility, we can do without a photo, but if you do not have a bio, then there is no reason to believe anything that you post.
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Hi James:
Yes this is from Hughes...But not within two minutes.....
He ran from the TSBD area, and down through the plaza, and then up into the parking lot area, where the people were gathering....he was taking film...as he went...
He then came back down into the park area, where he took this photo, as well as others....So perhaps within 10 minutes, or so... It could be something holding the window up..?? (Bernice Moore)
Hi Bernice,
Thanks for your thoughts.
I scanned the Hughes film and it appears that the object is there one frame and then seems to disappear.
Cheers,
James
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My first thought was maybe it was something holding open the window, I did hear a report that there was a broken window on the western side at the time of the assassination. Is this image of the western side of the building? James said that the object disappears, I am going to look into this, but to me at the moment, I come to the conclusion that it is a rifle, I will continue to think about and look into other possibilities. Let me know what you think.
Just looking at the image again, is it possible that it is not a protrusion? It may possibly be some type of shadow or reflection? Although I am not sure,
Adam
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Hi James:
Yes this is from Hughes...But not within two minutes.....
He ran from the TSBD area, and down through the plaza, and then up into the parking lot area, where the people were gathering....he was taking film...as he went...
He then came back down into the park area, where he took this photo, as well as others....So perhaps within 10 minutes, or so... It could be something holding the window up..?? (Bernice Moore)
Hi Bernice,
Thanks for your thoughts.
I scanned the Hughes film and it appears that the object is there one frame and then seems to disappear.
Cheers,
James
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My first thought was maybe it was something holding open the window, I did hear a report that there was a broken window on the western side at the time of the assassination. Is this image of the western side of the building? James said that the object disappears, I am going to look into this, but to me at the moment, I come to the conclusion that it is a rifle, I will continue to think about and look into other possibilities. Let me know what you think.
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Greetings All:
I wish to thank all of you that phoned, sent me cards, books, letters and emails during my convalescence. I'm getting better every day and can now negotiate the stairs to my workstation without assistance, although slowly. The show of support and the graciousness I recieved from the Assassination Research Community is a humbling experience to say the least. And more than ever, I concider it an honor and a privledge to be associated with this community. I will be posting this to all of the forums I'm associated with as well as emailing it to those researchers who seldom visit the discussion forums so if you happen to read the following article online and then recieve an email later...sorry about the redundancy. :wink:
That said, I think it important to elucidate a bit on the many discrepancies and issues of the physical evidence just to put things in perspective as it were. The following are those discrepancies and issues that I personally would have no problem placing before a grand jury for a legal finding of fact:
First and formost would have to be the Warren Commission official photo of the bullet designated
WC CE-399 which clearly, and without ambiguity shows a projectile which had been fired from a weapon rifled with 6 lands and grooves and possessed with a 1 in 7.5" twist which no M91/38 Mannlicher Carcano possesses. Conversely, the House Select Committee on Assassinations official photo of the bullet designated, HSCA-399 just as clearly and without ambiguity shows a projectile which had been fired from a weapon rifled with 4 lands and grooves and possessed with a 1 in 8.5" twist while comparison analysis of the two bullets produces not a single point of matching comparison proving that they are in fact the same bullet fired from the same rifle. [ The entire Single Bullet Theory falls apart in the face of this simple fact.]
In fact, to date and to my knowledge, no comparison bullets showing a forensic connection to either version of 399 or a forensic connection to the alledged murder weapon have ever been produced and made public.
The SBT itself is a farce in so far as it alledges ballistic behavior which under any concievable set of conditions and circumstances with respect to a projectile of this type, is an abject impossibility...Jet Effect and Neuro-Muscle Spasms not withstanding.
Dr. Guinn's Neutron Activation Analysis of the alledged bullet fragments and minus the necessary corraborative Mass Spectromony and Gaseous Chromotography tests to establish a forensic connection to the alledged murder weapon is hopelessly flawed and his conclusions dubious to say the least, if not outright false and misleading.
Then, there is the presence of spent cartridges which when precisely measured show them to be 6.5x54mm Mannlicher Schoenauer cartridges which cannot be chambered in a Carcano rifle along with an unfired cartridge which is a 6.5x52mm Carcano cartridge but possesses the nickle/copper alloy jacket, counter-bored
neck steps and odd sized Berdan Primer indicative of Italian G.I. ammunition and which would not have been produced in any American arsenal, added to the failure of the controling agency/s to produce and make public the Tool-Mark Analysis establishing a forensic connection of these cartridges to the alledged murder weapon tends to establish a case of outright falsification of material evidence coupled with the seperate crime of evidence tampering since the controling agency/s duly entered these cartridges into evidence as
Winchester/Western 6.5x52mm Mannlicher Carcano cartridges.
There are at least four different Carcano rifles which at one time or another has been entered into evidence as "The Murder Weapon" with the 1984 Mike O'Neal photo clearly showing a very rare cermonial rifle of Mussolini's Guard known as the Moschettieri del Duce Carcano stamped with the serial number C2766 which is completely different from the weapon currently in the National Archives that represents a rather poor forgery of the rifle depicted in the O'Neal Photo. [The other rifles all have features different from one another.] It should also be noted that whichever rifle was submitted to Edgewood Arsenal for ballistic tests was in so poor condition that it was deemed unfit to fire without extensive reworking by a gunsmith who also had to shim the scope before it could be sighted in.
The spent cartridges found at the Tippet murder scene were positivily identified by the Dallas Sheriff's Dept. firearms expert as .38 Super-Auto cartridges which are rimless cartridges requiring two half-moon rimmed spacer clips in order to chamber in a revolver which normally chambers rimmed cartridges. [This issue becomes especially important when one goes into the ballistic data because the .38 Super-Auto is a hotter loaded cartridge performing on par with the .357 Magnum cartridge rather than the lighter loaded .38 Standard or .38 Special cartridge, and excessive breech pressure becomes a safety factor especially when coupled to an old WWII Victory Model .38 Revolver.]
To my knowledge, no wax-cast was ever lifted off of Lee Oswald's face which would have not only shown he had recently fired a rifle but comparison analysis of the unburned and partially burned powder residue would have established a forensic connection between the man and the rifle. [such an event goes far beyond simple oversight or even negligence since it is inconcievable to me that any investigative agency would not have performed this simple and basic examination.]
Finally, last but not least, the chain of custody with respect to the physical evidence is so hopelessly flawed and compromised that about any good attorney should have been able to have it quashed in a court of law thus the physical evidence against LHO would have been excluded and he could have gone free. Thus, I think it incombant upon the Assassination Research Community to somehow get the judicial notice necessary to force a reopening of the JFK case as a murder investigation and sit a grand jury to examine the above enumerated issues.
Respectfully:
Some very good information here, hope you have a speedy recovery.
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That is a possibility. What I don't understand is unless you know someone and have seen them - how would you know the photo is really of them?
Bill Miller
Agreed, but at the same time, the research community is not so large, and many of us have met many others. Also, some that research together can vouch for the other people. Some people, like Denis, I feel as though I know very well, as we've been emailing and posting for years, even though we have yet to meet.
The issue being addressed is to discourage fake people with fake names from coming in to flame another poster or witness. That just is not fair, and can be very time-consuming to deal with.
Pamela
Those rules work well for me
The picture rule is fair, and i will add one right now. Do any members live in the Sydney area of Australia? Let me know -
David. Thank you for this very interesting post. (John Simkin)
Let's clear up some myths about Dorothy Kilgallen. First, her cameo appearance in a "beach party movie" in 1964 had nothing to do with her digging into the Oswald mystery. The name "Mike Shore" is NOT in the credits of that film. The screenwriter, Louis "Deke" Heyward, told me he gave Kilgallen the part because several years earlier they had had a friendly telephone conversation about a skit he wrote for one of Ernie Kovacs' TV shows broadcast live from New York. The skit made fun of Dorothy and her husband Dick. Dorothy enjoyed it. (David Yarnell)
I did not include this information in the seminar. However, it is good you have cleared this point up. It was suggested that Mike Shore might have been the person who sent the message to Jack Ruby via Dorothy. Do you know if that is the case? (John Simkin)
Mike Shore wasn't the one. The person whose message Kilgallen relayed to Jack Ruby was a female opera singer based in San Francisco in 1963. Joe Tonahill says this in the videotaped interview that anyone in the vicinity of Lamar University in Beaumont, Texas can watch. Tonahill says he never knew the woman's name. Most likely she's dead now. (David Yarnell)
Next, Mr. Simkin has attributed statements to Kilgallen's hairdresser Marc Sinclaire without contacting him. If he got the statements from Lee Israel's book, then he is remiss. Look carefully and you'll see that Mr. Sinclaire refused to cooperate with Ms. Israel. Look online and you'll find Mr. Sinclaire's address listed in Tampa, Florida. (David Yarnell)
I did get this information from Lee Israel’s book. This was pointed out by the use of footnote 32: Lee Israel, Kilgallen (1979) page 404-05. This was one of the reasons that I have asked contributors to use footnotes.
You say that Sinclaire refused to cooperate with Israel. Is that relevant? Does it now deny he made that statement? (John Simkin)
Not only does he not deny it, but he has lots of other memories that people could learn if they just would look beyond Lee Israel's book. If you're confined to the U.K., then I understand. But this group covers the United States. (David Yarnell)
Mr. Sinclaire will tell you of the visit that his boss Dorothy made to New Orleans approximately three weeks before she died. (David Yarnell)
Lee Israel mentions in her book that Dorothy had found a key witness in New Orleans. Do you know who it was? (John Simkin)
No. We'll never know. Too many people have died. (David Yarnell)
Columbus, Ohio, longtime home of Ron Pataky "the Out of Towner" John Simkin was right when he said Pataky was a newspaper critic trying to become a songwriter. Johnny Mathis did indeed record the Pataky composition "While Stephanie Sleeps," but it never appeared on an album. (David Yarnell)
Thank you for that information. Pataky does not say on his online CV the name of the song. (John Simkin)
The reason he doesn't could be benign. Record company executives and producers who issued Johnny Mathis albums in 1964 evidently thought "While Stephanie Sleeps" was inferior. Pataky still has his reel to reel audiotape of Mathis singing it. Almost certainly Mathis himself has forgotten it. (David Yarnell)
I have emailed him about this but he has not replied. I have told him about my web page on him (it is ranked first with most search-engines). When this happens, the person is usually willing to talk about the contents of the page. Pataky has not done this. I therefore assume that my information on him is correct (I will update my page on the song title). (John Simkin)
Madisonville, Kentucky ? Longtime home of Katherine Stone Stevens. In 1965 Ms. Stevens sold dynamite to coal mines and quarries in Kentucky. She was in New York City the night Kilgallen died to appear as a What's My Line contestant. Kilgallen determined what her line was. After everyone left the studio, Ms. Stevens saw Kilgallen very absorbed in conversation with Pataky at the Regenc Hotel. They were NOT drunk. They were discussing "very serious business" in the words of Ms. Stevens. (David Yarnell)
This seems like a very good witness. Have you interviewed her? (John Simkin)
Yes. The videotape is in the Super VHS format. It lasts two hours. (David Yarnell)
Anyone near Scottsdale, Arizona ? That's home to ex - cop John Doyle since 1980. Prior to that he operated a tavern / restaurant called Doyle's Terrace near LaGrangeville, New York. Lee Israel devotes two pages to him in the "epilogue" of her book. Lee told me by telephone that Doyle probably was dishonest during their 1977 interview. Consider that he claimed Kilgallen "was not long for this world, the liver being the way it was." Consider that four months after Kilgallen died, Doyle retired from the NYPD without a pension and opened an expensive restaurant in an expensive suburb near Vassar College. (David Yarnell)
Are you suggesting that John Doyle was involved in her death? (John Simkin)
In a cover up, yes. I repeat. Anyone here live near Scottsdale, Arizona? (David Yarnell)
John, you asked David a while ago if Mike Shore might have been the person who sent the message to Jack Ruby via Dorothy. David replied that he was not the one, one reliable source has conflicting views on this and suggest he was, i am going to look inot this further. If you want the link to my source, I will try and find it and get back to you. There is some great info here, keep up the good work John.
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Sounds good, I will have a look at that John.