Jason Vermeer

Hi, Jason Yes, re; page #s, will very much appreciate that info. Thanks. Harry, the page number is 165 I believe the bottom paragraph then ascending to the top side. Harry

I read once that Oswald was in the "hospital" for something like three weeks. Far to long for a simple botched suicide attempt. I got to wondering the other day if during that stay, Oswald was subjected to some of the same kind of treatment as Yuri Nosenko, and whether he could have stood up to it. Steve Thomas Though I've been speculating in this thread for too long, there may be some merit to examining the existing soviet documents again, paying particular attention to the possibility of coded words...then again, these words are translated from Russian to English. Harry, I will get you the page numbers. Steve, I too felt the 3 week plus stay was more than required for psychiatric stabilization. I think the Russian version of "managed care" developed a while before ours. Jason Vermeer

Sure Harry, The source is Thomas B. Allen, from his book, (hold onto your seat lol), "Spy Book: The Encyclopedia of Espionage" Some of the information on the DGI agents came from the Cuba section. I can get you page numbers at your request. Jason Vermeer

Upon his entry into the United States in 1983, Jesus Mendez, a former DGI agent indicated that back in the 1960's, cuban intelligence recognized that it had, at one point, 100 percent ratio of suspected U.S. agents doubled and placed back into the U.S. reporting on anti-castro activeties. In order to "double" an agent, you use whatever means necessary to engage that agent into actively working for your program rather than against it. When pressed on the issue, another former DGI placed a number at 38. The multiple failures and hackneyed schemes of U.S. intelligence during this area are well documented as is the desperation of it's collusion with organized crime. Given the number of failures on Catro's life, the question arises.... Were the failures the result of our own ineptitude, or the successful manipulations of "doubled" agents acting on behalf of the DGI? In 1971, according to corrected HSCA executive testimony, Tanenbaum indicated that Antonio Veciana and Posada Carrilles(sp), engaged in a conspiracy to assassinate Castro in Chile and lay a false paper trail pointing to Russian agents...it failed at the last minute....again. Was Posada doubled? Veciana? It seems in light of Mendez's information, these are good questions to ask. In one step closer to the Kennedy assassination, it has been suspected Oswald was an agent sent by U.S. intelligence to gather information in the Soviet Union. There is a certain amount of evidence to back this assertion up. Skeptics point to Oswalds erratic behavior in the Soviet Union and past information from the KGB indicated they believed Oswald too "unstable" to seriously consider as a threat....or for recruitment. Gerald Posner points to a documented event where Oswald attempted suicide and, being mentally ill, promptly shipped off to a hospital. Recently released KGB crypto's and code words; however, put this particular event in a different light. According to the information "Illness" or "injury" is KGB code for "being arrested or detained" and the word "hospital" is further described as KGB code for "detention" or "jail". There is the possibility that at that point in time, Oswald was outed as an agent. The fact that he lived could mean he was "doubled". Dizzying speculation can occur beyond this point so I'll stop here but I will put forth the questions, how deeply were we infiltrated? How did our intelligence perceive it's own ability to enact countermeasures? If it's efficacy for doing so was low, could this be seen as another motive in the assassination of JFK? Jason Vermeer

Interview or deposed. What difference does it make? I'm not trying to be snide but the point is HSCA HAD contact with him on 5-23-77. He was interviewed. Fonzi wasn't able to do this. Why? WHO interviewed Diosdado? On a side note, in some of the Weberman nodules, he quotes Hemming discussing some type of working relationship with Diosdado. Something to the effect of ".(..if he was working a deal with you he'd never f#k you over...)" I can get the exact quote if you want. Jason

Diosdado was interviewed by HSCA 5-23-77. (Klein). A.J. Weberman was aware of this as well. Diosdado denied working for CIA which we know was a lie because of the CIA's own internal memos AND Diosdado denied knowing Hemming to Weberman. Hemming seems to have a low opinion of Diosdado. Jason

Tim, it does make a difference WHO interviewed him. It is also important to know WHY Fonzi did not get to interview Diosdado but rather Diosdado being deposed.

It's hard to pursue a lead and then have it turn around and bite you in the face.... Over a year ago, in a debate with Wim Dankbaar about James Files credibility, I ran across a name I was familiar with but had not paid attention to in quite some time. That person's name was Cesar Diosdado, he gained some attention after the publication of Gaeton Fonzi's "The Last Investigation". Diosdado was the customs agent alleged by Antonio Veciana to have interviewed Veciana shortly after the JFK assassination. Veciana felt Diosdado was CIA and was mum about his witnessing Oswald and another CIA handler conversing in Dallas prior to Kennedy's assassination.. In reviewing the history of Diosdado, one begins to spin in a myriad of side tales involving allegations Diosdado was gun running to Havana, that he racked up a complaint from an informant regarding his general behavior, that he was monitored with accolades by the CIA according to their internal cables. My interest was piqued when I read an exerpt in a book by Chuck Giancana regarding the Kennedy killing. In that book, the author puts forth that the killing was a combined effort including mobster trafficante who supplied an ex havana vice cop and a "Radical turned corrupt" U.S. customs agent. Diosdado operated in Trafficante's area and his behavior seemed at least partially similar to the above description. I began to dig a little deeper. Gaeton Fonzi mentioned that he had not been able to question Diosdado. I always wondered why an HSCA investigator was not able to do that. Even more puzzling is that there seems to actually BE testimony of Diosdado in the HSCA volumes but where it is baffles me. WHY Fonzi wasn't allowed to be involved is even more troubling. I'm told this testimony before HSCA is one big denial fest. Diosdado denies interviewing Veciana, denies he is CIA so on and so forth. Weberman, however, indicates Diosdado was involved in the JM/Wave station since incept. If true, Diosdado lied. Did he lie about NOT seeing Veciana? In a final parting shot to Weberman during a phone interview, Diosdado said, "you've got nothing on me"! I was extremely interested to find the following HSCA executive testimony regarding Diosdado. 3-9-77...Tanenbaum-"Diosdado is a very important person for us to speak to. In 1971, when the last attempt on Castro's life by Veciana failed, it was brought to light to Bishop that Veciana and DIOSDADO (emphasis mine) were planning to blame the attempted assassination in Chile on the Russians..." The testimony was declassified fairly recently and goes on to discuss the use of phony papers, documents -pocket litter stuff- to plant a false trail. My head was swimming at the thought of someone like Diosdado and Veciana WORKING TOGETHER. If this were true, it would have lent some credence to my working hypothesis that Diosdado was the customs agent mentioned by Giancana. Alas, this was not to be... In recent correspondance with Gaeton Fonzi-forwarded to me by another researcher, he states the following regarding Tanenbaum's executive session testimony... 9-14-2005 "He's mistaken. It wasn't Diosdado (with when) Veciana was planning to blame the Russians for the Castro attempt in Chile, it was Posada. When we questioned Posada in prison in Caracus (sp) he said he hardly knew Veciana...." This resulted in Veciana calling a 3rd party who confirmed the Posada information Veciana gave Fonzi was accurate. Quite a blow to the working hypo. I would still like to know WHY Fonzi wasn't able to question Diosdado and exactly WHAT Diosdado said in his HSCA testimony. Knowing who called him before HSCA would also be very telling. There is the possibility that asking Diosdado questions in a controlled setting would minimize any conflicting information he would have given Fonzi. Jason Vermeer

I am currently working with a corporation hired by state governments to oversee the authorization of care for individuals in the medicaid system. I live in Des Moines, Iowa and have been researching JFK related issues for a number of years now. Presently, my focus is on the web of connections between anti-Castroites, U.S. customs, the CIA and Lee Harvey Oswald. I am of the belief that Lee Harvey Oswald was an active conspirator in the murder of the president and was shooting in the Plaza with at least one other conspirator he may or may not have known.