Michael Crane

Kellerman said that there was a flurry of shots that came into the limo.

I believe that Greer panicked & hit the brakes right when the shot hit the windshield.

He might have believed that he was heading straight into hostile gunfire.

Thanks again Keven.

On 5/10/2024 at 4:25 AM, Richard Bertolino said:

I don't think we know even that. Somebody said so, but why would that be edited out of the film? I think she tried to grab some thing on the spare tire hump, a thing that can be seen moving upon close examination of the Nix film. But she failed to grab it. Perhaps a cover story was created or even enacted.

The forgers want the brain matter flying forwards instead of backwards.

Jackie picked up his brain matter and then asked one of the Parkland doctors if it would help JFK's condition.

Let me just include that it could of been part of JFK's skull also,but let's just keep it simple and say part of JFK's head.

Hello Nick,

I myself think that I might have spoken about Clarence Isreal and another black Navy soldier being in the autopsy room that night?

Was it claimed,that since Isreal and another soldier were black,that they wouldn't be taken seriously?

That both men claimed to see the autopsy Dr's working in a hurried fashion? possibly before 8:00PM?

Yep,

The plotters are trying to convince the public that a shot hit in the back of the head,and continued on to exit forward.

4 hours ago, Christian Toussay said:

As stated, my patience with fools is limited. I value all serious questions about results or methodology and will respond to them.

I have no time for nor interest in junior school humor.

 

May be you should try TikTok: from what I heard, children all around the world seem to be having a good time there....

You're killing me Smalls.

You have plenty of time.You don't have to lie to kick it.

Now,work on something else that brings us closer to the identity of the suspect.

11 hours ago, Mike Aitken said:

Great point.probably reas

 

Here are a couple of things that I forgot to add to my original question:

 

1. Do we really think that anyone at the CIA or any of the intelligence agencies fully knows what happened?  I find it hard to believe that even those with firsthand knowledge would have told their successors what they knew.  That would just leave us with hearsay/rumors from those currently employed at the agencies.

2. Is there any reason to believe that there is anyone still living that knows definitively what went down?*
 

*Just to put it out there…I’ve done some reading (here and elsewhere) and watched the documentary about her, but I know that some people may say that Ruth Paine knows more than she’s let on.

Keep in mind that Doug has probably read alot of the classified documents.

He also is privy to all of the edited ARRB interviews while on the ARRB that we the public did not get to read.

Doug Horne.

Hello Keven,

Be sure to check out this video also if you haven't already.

I wanna know why we don't see the metal head brace holding up JFK's head?

It's clearly showing in the autopsy photographs,and should be visable on the x-rays.

It's pretty clear from the witness's that a chalk block head brace was used.

For whatever reason,I for the life of me cannot see what Jackie is picking up off the trunk of the car.

Has anybody looked into the plotters editing this part also?

We know that it was a piece of brain or brain matter.

Yes,there are other occasions where I....right or wrong think that Humes was trying to tell us something terrible is happening.

Once again folks,I certainly appreciate your input on my questions because,I know that they are difficult to answer.

9 minutes ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

He might not have left the morgue, but he was not with the body the whole time. He had to wash various organs at the sink, and I think that he missed certain important things.

Hi Denise,

I'm going to hijack this thread right now ask you your opinion on Sandra Spencer saying that she witnessed a brain beside JFK's body when she developed the autopsy pictures?

What I have in mind is the autopsy doctors signaling "SOS" that something terrible is going on & they are trying to tell us.

15 hours ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

There was also a rumor about a helicopter landing on the roof at Bethesda, adding one more layer to the casket conundrum.

I think that you can add another helicopter landing at Bethesda that night.And if I'm not mistaken...it came from Paul O'Connor.

Oh man,

Now it is oh so crystal clear.The man definately,positively has brown hair & brown eyes.He's stands 6'0 and weighs 170 pounds.

5 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Was JFK's body buried at Arlington in that Dallas Bronze casket?

Thanks everyone for helping me come to grips with this scenario.

No,the bronze casket was buried in the Atlantic Ocean.

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Hello Denise,

James Jenkins has stated that the bronze casket was delivered to the cooler room/anterior room on a cart.Nothing about being delivered near the autopsy room tables.

I believe James was the only person to have never left the morgue that night.Not for x-rays & not to get something to eat.

Man,it is so hard for me to concieve that the body was reintroduced to the bronze casket & nobody seen it happen.

It's no God damn wonder that there was an order of silence given to Naval personnel & others.

You know Ron,

It's back to the damn drawing board for me.Yesterday,I read either Sibert's or O'Neil's ARRB until it got to the autopsy part,and I'll be gosh darn if one of them said that they witnessed a coffin opening out of the bronze casket and the body was wrapped in sheets.

I really want to believe Sibert & O'Neil and at the same time..I wanna believe James Jenkins.

*It seems to me that Sibert & O'Neil were more truthful than others when it comes to the FBI.But they did tell a fib when they said that they were never away from the casket.

1 hour ago, Ron Ege said:

Lastly, I recently listened to an podcast episode from JFK: The Enduring Secret, contending that there existed two (2) morgues at Bethesda, which were instrumental in allowing the efficacy of the charade, surrounding the casket mystery.

Hello Ron,

James Jenkins himself has said that there is another morgue at Bethesda.I think,but I'm not positive that it was for animals?

Out of all the the logical places to expand wounds...right or wrong,I believe that the other morgue was where it happened.

Walter Reed is of course another possibility,but that eats up more time and involves more possible witnesses.

I stepped away for a bit,but I'm back now to see your post Keven.

Once again,I always appreciate a members participation & wanted to say thank you.

In case you,or anybody else was wondering....James Jenkins says that two entries into the actual morgue/table is ridiculous.

I believe that the casket team did not place JFK & the bronze casket in the actual autopsy room itself.That it was placed in the hall or the cooler room & everyone was then asked to leave.

Jenkins and others would have seen a re-introduction of the body in a different coffin & SCREAMED bloody murder.

I think that others were all let in at 8:00 pm to witness the autopsy and not see the body put on the table earlier at 6:35PM.

Did Sibert & O'Neil say that they witnessed the opening of the coffin and placing it on the table?

Did the casket team bring in JFK in a different casket and lay his body onto the autopsy table at 8:00 PM?

I personally don't believe that the body was reintroduced...I believe that it remained on the autopsy table from when O'Connor & company put it there around 6:35PM.

Tell me what you think happened or what you know happened.

Did the plotters put JFK's body back into the Dallas casket & reintroduce it to a different audience?

Thanks for that contribution also Keven.

Good info Pat.

I remember reading Lipsey's testimony and being very perplexed.I didn't dismiss it right away,but was always waiting for someone else to verify.

I just vagely watched a 3 hour Youtube video from Chesser on the head wound & x-rays last night before I went to sleep.I did fall asleep before the end.

I'll try & muster up that one also.

^^^^^

7 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

So there you have it, from the best witness still living...the best evidence available.

It might be possible that Richard Lipsey might still be alive.

I found him kind of hit & miss in the interview that I saw of him,but like other evidence...sometimes you need more than one persons story.

I'll look for his video.