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  1. Thanks for the contribution Vince. I`m not the one in the comments section on your Youtube video asking the question about being there early in the black Cadillac.
  2. I have since backed off of the possibility that Robinson was one of the men in a white smock.According to Doug Horne,Robinson drove to Bethesda at a high rate of speed with the mahogany casket and Hagan.While Hagan states that he went to Bethesda with Gawler and got there around midnight. Maybe they drove the shipping casket there first & maybe Hagan returned to Gawler`s only to leave again later that night only this time with the actual mahogany casket & Gawler? Read both of their statements & tell me what you think. Tom Robinson`s https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/pdf/md180.pdf Joe Hagan`s https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/pdf/md182.pdf * I know that driving the shipping casket there first is wild speculation & one of these guys are probably not telling the truth.
  3. Lawrence, We will have to agree to disagree.I don`t claim to know where the coffin switch happened,but it had to of had taken place.Remember that X-ray technician Jerrol Custer said that he was in the process of taking some x-rays of JFK to be developed when he seen Jackie & company arrive at the hospital.
  4. Going over the Meeting Report of Tom Robinson & Joe Hagen that`s on History Matters parts of their report don`t match up.It was a summary of the report by someone on the ARRB. Back to the drawing board.
  5. Well,it looks like Robinson & Hagan did drive a casket to Bethesda,but it contained the Marcellus mahogany casket.No specific time was mentioned by Robinson only that "they got there early before the chest incision." That`s if Robinson is telling the truth about everything ^^^ I wonder where the SS got the black Cadillac from? It had to of come from a funeral home in the area. It would be interesting to me if Gawler`s did in fact,own a black hearse.
  6. Why thank you Micah for the contribution.I`m going to read it now & also go over Robinson`s ARRB statement.
  7. I`ve always wondered who was in the black Cadillac that delivered the shipping casket in the rear of the Bethesda morgue?Reports were that there were men in suits that were probably federal agents and the driver & passenger were wearing white smocks.Now a mortician might be one that would arrive ready to go wearing a white smock. We do know that he was there early along with Ed Reed possibly witnessing a pre autopsy autopsy. Maybe the black Cadillac belonged to Gawler`s funeral home that Robinson worked for? So I wonder.... could he have been one of the men wearing a white smock?
  8. I hope that this works on this forum.It worked on a different forum that I belong to.I hope that it`s relevent to this thread.You might want to skip to around the 4 minute mark.It is an important interview with Administrative Assistant Dennis David who was present at JFK`s autopsy. https://www.spreaker.com/user/thelonegunman/ep-30-dennis-david?tab=messages&utm_medium=widget&utm_source=user%3A7336374&utm_term=messages_button
  9. Does anybody know what happened to Doug Horne`s Hollywood 7 and their findings?
  10. Good observation.I didn`t even think to subtract the doctors & technicians.
  11. Oh my.I knew I recognized those pants that Ozzy was wearing because I went to that concert with my cousin and best friend Steve in 1983.It was the US Festival at Glen Helen Park in San Bernadino Ca.There was over 300,000 fans that day.
  12. I wish that I would have read the names on the list before I posted that information because it looks like they spelled John H Stover name wrong also.Here is a more complete list taken from Wiki. Personnel present during autopsy[edit] List of personnel present at various times during the autopsy, with official function, taken from the Sibert-O'Neill report list, the HSCA list[26] and attorney Vincent Bugliosi, author of Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Non-medical personnel from law-enforcement/security John J. O'Leary: Secret Service agent. William Greer: Secret Service agent. Roy Kellerman: Secret Service agent. Francis X. O'Neill: FBI special agent James "Jim" Sibert: FBI special agent, assisting Francis O'Neill[27] Medical personnel and assistants Official autopsy signatories: Commander J. Thornton Boswell, M.D., MC, USN: chief of pathology at Naval Medical Center, Bethesda. Commander James J. Humes, M.D., MC, USN: director of laboratories of the National Medical School, Naval Medical Center, Bethesda. Chief autopsy pathologist for the JFK autopsy. Officially conducted autopsy. Lieutenant Colonel Pierre A. Finck, M.D. MC, USA: Chief of the military environmental pathology division and chief of the wound ballistics pathology branch at Walter Reed Medical Center. Afterwards, Dr. Finck moved to Switzerland declining all interviews but eventually returned to Dallas dying there in 2018. Other medical personnel John Thomas Stringer, Jr: medical photographer Floyd Albert Riebe: medical photographer PO Raymond Oswald, USN: medical photographer on call Paul Kelly O'Connor: laboratory technologist James Curtis Jenkins: laboratory technologist Edward F. Reed: X-ray technician Jerrol F. Custer: X-ray technician Jan Gail Rudnicki: Dr. Boswell's lab tech assistant on the night of the autopsy PO James E. Metzler, USN: Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class John H. Ebersole: Assistant Chief of Radiology Lieutenant Commander Gregory H. Cross, M.D., MC, USN: resident in surgery Lieutenant Commander Donald L. Kelley, M.D., MC, USN: resident in surgery CPO Chester H. Boyers, USN: chief petty officer in charge of the pathology division, visited the autopsy room during the final stages to type receipts given by FBI and Secret Service for items obtained Vice Admiral Edward C. Kenney, M.D.,MC, USN: surgeon general of the U.S. Navy Dr. George Bakeman, USN Rear Admiral George Burkley, M.D., MC, USN: the president's personal physician Captain James M. Young, M.D., MC, USN: the attending physician to the White House Robert Frederick Karnei, M.D.: Bethesda pathologist Captain David P. Osborne, M.D., MC, USN: chief of surgery at Bethesda Captain Robert O. Canada, M.D., USN: commanding officer of Bethesda Naval Hospital Additional military personnel Brigadier General Godfrey McHugh, USAF: US military aide to the President on the Dallas trip Rear Admiral Calvin B. Galloway, USN: commanding officer of the U.S. Naval Medical Center, Bethesda Captain John H. Stover, Jr., USN: commanding officer of the U.S. Naval Medical School, Bethesda Major General Philip C. Wehle, USA: commanding officer of the U.S. Military District of Washington, D.C., entered to make arrangements for the funeral and lying in state. 2nd Lieutenant Richard A. Lipsey, USA: Jr. aide to General Wehle[28] 1st Lieutenant Samuel A. Bird, USA: head of the Old Guard. Sr CPO, Alexander Wadas - Chief on duty. Others: At the termination of the autopsy, the following personnel from Gawler's Funeral Home entered the autopsy room to prepare the President's body for viewing and burial (this required 3 to 4 hours:[28] John VanHoesen Edwin Stroble Thomas E. Robinson Joe Hagen
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