Miles Scull

Yes, I see that. I've watched many of the available videos and they contain some interesting theories/twists and turns. But I have yet to see anything that, in the real world, would lead to arrest warrants or subpoenas. The machinery of government prosecutors is enormous - to get those wheels to turn requires incontrovertible evidence. Uh,... Mark, this is getting a tad absurd... Yes, my plot is deep! By inveigling the gullible Mark to plunk down his dear shekels for an unknown & perhaps to be feared (oh, oh) video interview with HOLT, I will cleverly ensnare Mark into an unwitting endorsement of same video! I play on Mark's sense of self-importance. He begins to hear suppressed sniggers from some forum members (Agbat)... He, he, Mark keeps dissing on a cool video so he won't have to pay for it. He, he,... Mr. Big must be broke, he, he, he... Mark's actually attacking a video he's never seen! Hey, Frank, he, he, he... he, he... Get the video, then, and if it displeases, tear it apart like a rabid Rottweiler. That sounds like good fun. Or, be very pleasantly surprised & enlarged in knowledge & insight. Your call, of couse. [Do you need a loan?]

Miles, What is the new information that you gained from the video? Exactly how did it shine a bright light on your understanding of the murder of JFK? Surely the list must be breathtaking. I look forward to your comprehensive report. You've stuck your nose into this, so perhaps you'd care to do more than hit-and-run? Unless...ya know...there's no "there" there. Mark, Just get the video, Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite . You will be very pleasantly surprised & rewarded. You'll be doing yourself a favor. I would give this advice to anyone. If you're prejudiced against Dankbaar for personal reasons, then there's another author & researcher who interviewed Holt & thought he was the real deal: James Fetzer. Also, Holt was interviewed & video taped in 1991 by John Craig & Gary Shaw, who found Holt completely credible. These are, were veteran researchers. Jim Marrs is another believer. Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite is new. Most folk have not had a chance as yet to pick up on the new information & insights this Holt interview offers. Just my opinion, of course, but I should say that in time this interview will become accepted as an important addition to the canon. Now you don't have to accept my opinion, naturally. Simply see & critique for yourself. The way I found out about this was by coming across this web page: http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/spooks.htm Check it out. There's even a sample. A bon bon. Good luck!

I'm somewhat confused by this strange thread. In order to see the matter in question for myself, I bought & looked at Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite . It seems to me that Chauncey Holt was simply telling the truth from memory. What he says does not contradict anything I've seen in the canon of JFK literature & analysis. It seems to me that Holt's recollections throw a very bright light into areas of JFK assassination research which have been hidden & obscure for a very long time. This being said, I can't but wonder why Valenti & Weaver, who apparently have not seen Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite , should be at pains to discredit Holt's interview. There seems to be personal animosity toward Dunkbaar for his sale of the Holt interview. Why? I paid a small fortune for a copy of Bloody Treason. By the time you've bought Ultimate Sacrifice & Someone Would Have Talked & a raft of other books, you're bankrupt. Still, there's value to be had for the money, no? IMO, Holt's interview, produced by Dunkbaar or by Mahatma Gandhi, stands independently as a tremendous source of otherwise unavailable information & insight. Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite is a well worth a look see! Miles, first it is Euro not Gulden anymore, as far as I know, and no, I don't need to borrow money from Wim or anyone should I want to buy the DVD. Maybe I have it already, who knows ... . My apology to Mr. Dankbaar for misspelling his name. Dave says: " Maybe I have it already, who knows ... ." Dave, this is pretty silly. Obviously you have not seen Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite. Sorry to say, but until you have viewed this interesting & highly credible video interview, which is verified & corroborated by various other independent references easily available to a studious & serious review, then you are thrusting a dagger into thin air. This also applies to Mr. Valenti's slander: if you don't know your subject, then your personal animosity predisposition becomes pretty obvious & silly. Anybody, everybody, will see the vacuity of your position! You have not seen the evidence.

I believe some people work for the CIA without ever realizing they work for the CIA. This is stranger: they have thought that they were working for the CIA, but were actually under KBG handling.

I'm somewhat confused by this strange thread. In order to see the matter in question for myself, I bought & looked at Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite . It seems to me that Chauncey Holt was simply telling the truth from memory. What he says does not contradict anything I've seen in the canon of JFK literature & analysis. It seems to me that Holt's recollections throw a very bright light into areas of JFK assassination research which have been hidden & obscure for a very long time. This being said, I can't but wonder why Valenti & Weaver, who apparently have not seen Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite , should be at pains to discredit Holt's interview. There seems to be personal animosity toward Dunkbaar for his sale of the Holt interview. Why? I paid a small fortune for a copy of Bloody Treason. By the time you've bought Ultimate Sacrifice & Someone Would Have Talked & a raft of other books, you're bankrupt. Still, there's value to be had for the money, no? IMO, Holt's interview, produced by Dunkbaar or by Mahatma Gandhi, stands independently as a tremendous source of otherwise unavailable information & insight. Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite is a well worth a look see! Hi Miles, I have no personal anymosity towards Wim Dankbaar, never had and most likely never will, at least not in regard of anything said or done in connection with the JFK assassination in the broader sense. He knows that for years, but he likes to make others believe that, when it's fitting him,me thinks. My Life's going to be too short to waste my time creating artifical enemies for non important reasons (if at all). I do indeed question his believe system in regard of what proof is meant to be and considering the lack of proof (in the sense someone with a normal share of brains left would accept it) in his presentation of the James Files story, the Judyth Baker story and now (this is not a new one) the Chauncey Holt story. Lack of proof in regard of the center claims of each story I must add of course. Because some of the claims are true and proven. That is: James Files was a criminal Judyth Baker killed mice while in school and worked at Reily Coffee Company Chauncey Holt was a good artist (both at the trapez and as painter) I have yet to see proof for claims made by those three and repeated by Wim Dankbaar, for example: James Files was in the military James Files was in Dealey Plaza on 22/11/1963 James Files shot and killed JFK that day amongst some other things. Judyth Baker was Oswalds lover Judyth Baker was working on a secret cancer project Judyth Baker knew David Ferrie,Jack Ruby amongst some other things Chauncey Marvin Holt shot and killed Bugsy Siegel (claimed by Wim Dankbaar to me) Chauncey Marvin Holt provided fake ID badges to persons in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/1963 Chauncey Marvin Holt was the old tramp amongst some other things. I am not talking about (circumstancial) evidence in the broadest imaginable way , I am talking about proof, like it is proven that the earth isn't a flat disc, in that sense, if you can follow me. So, unless Wim Dankbaar or anyone else can show me proof that those 3 persons did what they claim in connection with the JFK assassination and or Lee Harvey Oswald or in connection with a secret cancer weapon, I take my freedom of doubting both them and Wim's judgement. I do that, because neither Wim nor anyone else was ever able to show me proof in the past, although promises were made more than once. I do not doubt that Wim believes in his own words, but I have stopped believing in them. I don't care who solves the JFK assassination, but if someone knocks on my door saying he has done it, he better shows me proof for his claim or else I regard him as a weirdo at best, when his evidence is of the Wim Dankbaar quality Anything wrong with that approach ? Hi Dave, I can easily agree with you. I remain neutral myself. However, there are some recently published books & interviews which, taken in aggregate, begin to present a complex & intricate case. The case is extensive in detail & in self verifying elements. Have you examined these? http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Harvey-Oswald-As...TF8&s=books http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Canc...0338342-8361756 http://www.amazon.com/Zenith-Secret-Inside...TF8&s=books If you carefully examine these, for starters, I believe you will be in for a sea change in your views, regardless of your final conclisions. I even hazard that you will borrow some Dutch gulden for, to you, an admittedly distastful business contact with Dunkbaar! Even you will want to closely examine Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite just out of curiousity if for no other reason. Bon voyage!

I'm somewhat confused by this strange thread. In order to see the matter in question for myself, I bought & looked at Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite . It seems to me that Chauncey Holt was simply telling the truth from memory. What he says does not contradict anything I've seen in the canon of JFK literature & analysis. It seems to me that Holt's recollections throw a very bright light into areas of JFK assassination research which have been hidden & obscure for a very long time. This being said, I can't but wonder why Valenti & Weaver, who apparently have not seen Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite , should be at pains to discredit Holt's interview. There seems to be personal animosity toward Dunkbaar for his sale of the Holt interview. Why? I paid a small fortune for a copy of Bloody Treason. By the time you've bought Ultimate Sacrifice & Someone Would Have Talked & a raft of other books, you're bankrupt. Still, there's value to be had for the money, no? IMO, Holt's interview, produced by Dunkbaar or by Mahatma Gandhi, stands independently as a tremendous source of otherwise unavailable information & insight. Spooks, Hoods & The Hidden Elite is well worth a look see!

I am a retired teacher of reading (English) at the elementary school level & have taught on the Navaho Reservation. I currently reside near Phoenix, Arizona. I am interested in the History Issues of the forum & hope to profit from the excellent exchanges found there.