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Good Day John.... Thank You. I had not been aware of any of what you posted.

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"In contrast to the testimony of the witnesses who heard and observed shots fired from the Depository, the Commission’s investigation has disclosed no credible evidence that any shots were fired from anywhere else."

- warrenatti canard

Good Day.... Can someone with a Dallas 1963 or 1964 directory, please, confirm the names of any restuarants and/or diners located anywhere on Westmoreland?

I really appreciate some help on this one. Thank You.

Don

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"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack and while still standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

Good Day All.... FWIW, the following internet article details that SMOLLEN was kidnapped in 1964....

http://insidecostarica.com/specialreports/...ng_industry.htm

....According to a 2003 copywrited list of Dallas criminal defense attorney's here....

http://www.dallas-attorneys-directory.com/...s-criminal.html

....there is a "John J. Solon," whose address and phone number are listed as....

4153 Beechwood Ln

DALLAS, TX 75220

(214) 350-0908

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"The Committee suspected that Veciana was lying when he denied that the retired CIA officer was Bishop. The Committee recognized that Veciana had an interest in renewing his anti-Castro operations that might have led him to protect the officer from exposure as Bishop so they could work together again. For his part, the retired officer aroused the Committee's suspicion when he told the Committee he did not recognize Veciana as the founder of Alpha 66, especially since the officer had once been deeply involved in Agency anti-Castro operations."

-House Select Committee on Assassinations' final report

Good Day Lee.... I meant to also add to my last reply.... Lee, with regard to your comment about not seeing ROSEMARY WILLIS's white coat head hood.... you may/must have been looking at, or thinking of, someone else when you wrote that, because, other than a very brief micro-second when she is still trotting at about 5 m.p.h. and ROSEMARY's head hood is obscurred starting at Zf-149 by the standing-ready-to-take-his-160-photo ROBERT CROFT (iow, when she trots behind CROFT starting at 149), her white coat head hood is clearly visible the entire time she is visible from Zf-133 until ZAPRUDER panned her image out of the sprocket area at 222/223.

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"I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say 'no, I think it was further down the street.' "

-TSBD employee JERALDEAN "Carolyn" REID in her earliest 11-23-63 DPD affidavit (CE2003, 24H223) REID and CAMPBELL were standing together, almost directly due south of the warrenatti's, supposed, "snipers lair"

Good Day.... The following article mentions a law firm, Houston-based "Vinson & Elkins," that CONNALLY was a client of....

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/10454039.htm?1c

....Does anyone know if LBJ was, also, a client?

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"How did it happen they ("they"?!!) hit Connally?"

- LBJ, despite the multitude of "lone nut" statements the previous 7 days, during a 29NOV63 phone conversation with his longtime friend, longtime neighbor, & soon-to-be-appointed-by-LBJ-"for-life" F.B.I. Director, J. EDGAR HOOVER

Good Day....

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A forensic footnote to Dallas' dark day

Museum boasts JFK memorabilia that no one knew was missing

09:42 PM CST on Thursday, December 16, 2004

By JASON TRAHAN / The Dallas Morning News

Dallas police found more than the drugs they expected during a raid on an East

Mockingbird Lane apartment. They uncovered evidence from one of the most famous

murder cases in U.S. history.

Inside Michael Roppolo's apartment was a trove of Kennedy assassination

memorabilia, including an authentic Dallas police fingerprint card bearing the

infamous name Jack Ruby.

One of the fingerprint boxes is blank, reflecting Mr. Ruby's missing left index

finger, which he lost when a guitarist bit it off in a fight. "Amp. 1st Joint,"

it says.

It's unclear whether the prints, marked "master," were taken after he shot Lee

Harvey Oswald in the old police headquarters basement, or whether the

fingerprint card was made after an earlier arrest of the colorful Dallas club

owner.

What's not in dispute is that the card, apparently pilfered from police

archives several decades ago, is invaluable, said Senior Cpl. Jess Lucio, who

is coordinating the collection of materials for the police museum to be housed

in the department's new headquarters.

He took custody of the items over the summer after Mr. Roppolo's drug case was

wrapped up. Mr. Roppolo got five years' probation, county officials said.

Police are unsure how the JFK evidence ended up in Mr. Roppolo's apartment. He

told authorities that a relative who used to work for the department gave it to

him.

In addition to the fingerprint card, officers during their raid last year found

Bonnie and Clyde memorabilia, including autopsy photos.

Police say the JFK items appear to be authentic: items marked as trial evidence

including pictures of Mr. Ruby shooting Oswald and what appears to be a drawing

of a map containing important assassination-related locations, such as Dealey

Plaza and the street in Oak Cliff where Officer J.D. Tippit was shot.

Police also found a photo inventory of Mr. Oswald's belongings, which were

seized from his Beckley Avenue rooming house on the day of the assassination.

That picture features an eerie collage of seemingly banal personal effects,

interesting only because of who once owned them: shoes, a bar of Lux soap,

Russian flash cards, black sunglasses, gloves and an assortment of clothing.

Another photo documents items – mostly socialist propaganda – found at Ruth

Paine's Irving house, where Marina Oswald had stayed.

"Of the items recovered, two are clearly of museum quality: the Ruby

fingerprint card and the drawing," Cpl. Lucio said. "The other pieces recovered

were interesting, unusual and rarely seen photographs."

E-mail jtrahan@dallasnews.com

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Dr. DONALD THOMAS during his NID-2001 presentation, "Hear No Evil":

The x-ray of the President's head taken at the autopsy revealed a metal

fragment on the outside of the cranium located 10 cm dorsad of the occipital

protuberance. The scalp wound in apposition to this piece of metal was

described in the autopsy facing sheet (7 HSCA 253) as "ragged, slanting" with

an arrow indicating an upward trajectory. Dr. RUSSELL FISHER, the chairman of

the forensic pathology panel appointed by Attorney General RAMSEY CLARK to

review the autopsy materials concluded that the piece of metal was, "...most

likely a richochet fragment" (interview in Menninger pp. 64-66).

I am not a forensic pathologist, but Dr. FISHER's expert diagnosis meshes well

with the filmed evidence of the President's reaction, the accounts of the

eyewitnesses, and explains the ragged nature of the scalp wound. Or, we may

choose to rely on the HSCA Forensic Pathology panel's expertise on how this

piece of metal came to be lodged on the outside of the President's skull. The

Warren Commission's doctors elected not to report this piece of metal in their

autopsy protocol. The forensic pathology panel met with the Chief Prosector,

JAMES HUMES, and asked him about the fragment and scalp lesion. Transcripts of

the panel's discussion elicited the following opinion from Dr. GEORGE LOQUVAM:

COE: "The reason we are so interested in this, Dr. Humes, is because other

pathologists have interpreted the..."

LOQUVAM: "I don't think this belongs in the damn record."

HUMES: "Well, it probably doesn't."

LOQUVAM: "You guys are nuts. You guys are nuts writing this stuff. It doesn't

belong in the damn record." (7HSCA255)

Good Day.... Does anyone have handy a list of the known occupants of motorcade press bus #1?

Thank You.

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"The Committee suspected that Veciana was lying when he denied that the retired CIA officer was Bishop. The Committee recognized that Veciana had an interest in renewing his anti-Castro operations that might have led him to protect the officer from exposure as Bishop so they could work together again. For his part, the retired officer aroused the Committee's suspicion when he told the Committee he did not recognize Veciana as the founder of Alpha 66, especially since the officer had once been deeply involved in Agency anti-Castro operations."

-House Select Committee on Assassinations' final report

Good Day.... I was doing some internet-searching and started reading the following internet page....

http://www.jfk-info.com/discus/messages/72...html?1003075293

....About 45% the way down that internet page we find it reads....

"21 H 217 Shirley Randall, E.R. Aide re: washing limo***"

....and on the next line....

"21 H 226 Joe L. Richards, Orderly re: bucket of water***"

....so I looked-up RANDALL and RICHARDS in the warrenatti canard #21....

....Here is a quote from 21H217, Parkland Hospital aide, SHIRLEY RANDALL's statement about her 22NOV63 activities, who, with an empty gurney carriage she had secured, ran by the Parkland hospital emergency entrance in-coming CONNALLY and then saw President KENNEDY being run into the hospital on a gurney carriage with MRS. KENNEDY's roses on the president's chest....

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I asked some man -- I don't know who he was -- if there was any more hurt before a policeman and I took the carriage in that I had; he said that he didn't think so. He asked me if I would get someone to come and wash the blood out of the car. I said that I would, but I was so excited and nervouse that I forgot about the car.

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....RICHARDS, after helping run CONNALLY into TR-2, wrote (21H226)....

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Then someone asked me to get a bucket of water; I did.

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....So, from RANDALL's statement, it appears that within only 2 minutes of the limousine's arrival at Parkland Hospital (more likely, it was thought of BEFORE the limo arrival at PH--the queston is how long before?), *someone* was already wanting (i.e. had a priority) that the limousine's rear seats compartment be washed-out and cleaned-up, and asked RANDALL to do it.

....When RANDALL forgot about it --i.e. when the limo rear seats were not washed out QUICKLY enough for *someone's* tastes-- "someone" soon asked RICHARDS to get a bucket of water.... What is the old saying?...."If you want to make sure something is done right, do it yourself." ....

....Has it ever been determined with certainty exactly WHO actually washed out the blood splatter pattern out of the limousine rear seats?

....So, President KENNEDY, probably dead, but no one knows for sure, and who has a quarter of his head blown off--which should have been the priority for everyone there-- and, yet, here is "someone" who has already thought about cleaning up the blood.... can anyone say, "priorities"?

Yes-sir-ee.... that blood splatter pattern certainly was one of the co-conspirator's un-plannable problems --but probably had been planned to react to about-- and had to be quickly covered-up....

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"I saw a part of his skull with hair on it lying in the seat I observed a wound about six inches down from the neckline on the back just to the right of the spinal column. I observed another wound on the right rear portion of the skull."

----CLINT HILL, 30NOV63 report: 18H740-745

....Good Day Don and all.... I have a copy of BUCHANON's 1964 black and white film, "The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald" (very rare these days to find; I've never seen it run on tv). If anyone is interested in the film, please just privately email me.

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"One night, probably in 1880, John Swinton, then the preeminent New York journalist, was the guest of honour at a banquet given him by the leaders of his craft. Someone who knew neither the press nor Swinton offered a toast to the independent press. Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying:

'There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.

There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread.

You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.'"

----source: "Labor's Untold Story", by Richard O. Boyer and Herbert M. Morais,

published by United Electrical, Radio & Machine Workers of America, NY, 1955/1979

....Good Day Steve....

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"I wasn't keeping track of the number of pops that took place, but I could vouch for number one, and I can vouch for the last shot, but I cannot tell you how many shotS were in between."

----JAMES ALTGENS, close attack witness, during his 22JUL64 warrenatti-testimony (07H517-518)

Good Day.... Within the following article....

http://context.themoscowtimes.com/story/134709/

....is written this paragraph:

"Johnson was backed by the Carlos Marcello gang of New Orleans, who paid the all-powerful Texas senator $100,000 per year to keep the legislative heat off their gambling and racing interests. Of course, this mob dime was small beer to Lyndon, whose career had been bankrolled by massive cash infusions (some of them legal) from the construction and military-servicing firm Brown & Root -- now more famous as the chief cash cow in the Halliburton empire. (Like the Outfit, Halliburton always plays both sides.)"

....I have no doubt that LBJ was capable of accepting such a payola, but, can anyone provide addional specific reference(s) for this $100K annual payola from MARCELLO to LBJ?

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"From a moral standpoint, Johnson had no use for religion except for the political benefits that it bestowed upon him. He had no use for the sanctity of marriage except for the voting benefits it offered to him as a 'married man.' And, his desire for alcohol, just like with sex, was excessive. In short, moral rules relating to his personal conduct had no effect on stopping him from getting what he wanted."

----CRAIG ZIRBEL, summarizing LBJ's amoral characteristics that may have contributed, along with 4 on-going criminal investigations implicating LBJ, to LBJ's motivations for wanting President KENNEDY assassinated, "The Texas Connection" (pg.108)

Good Day.... I received an email that contained the "Dallas Morning News" obituary for BUM BRIGHT.

In Dallas, the fact that BRIGHT helped produce the 22NOV63 negative advertisement would have probably been more known by locals, and, therefore mentioned in his obit.

My point when I wrote my original post was that the national media either did not pick up on BRIGHT's sponsorship of the negative ad, or, the media did pick up on it but decided not to include it in BRIGHT's obit.

In any event, here is the "DMN" obit....

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'Bum' Bright, former Cowboys owner, dies

Longtime member of A&M board had a soft spot for children, dogs

01:35 AM CST on Monday, December 13, 2004

By MIKE HEIKA / The Dallas Morning News

A tough and sometimes controversial businessman, H.R. "Bum" Bright also had a soft side that included an extraordinary devotion to dogs, children and the Texas A&M Aggies.

Mr. Bright, 84, died Saturday night at his Highland Park home after a long illness.

"We were glad that he was at home and that everybody was there," said son Clay Bright, 50. "I think his life pretty much speaks for itself."

Courtesy photo Bum Bright sold the Cowboys to Jerry Jones in 1989.

Best known for his ownership of the Cowboys from 1984 to 1989, Mr. Bright was one of Dallas' top businessmen for years and also a longtime member of the Texas A&M Board of Regents. He was chairman of the board from 1981 to 1985. In addition, he was one of the strongest supporters of Children's Medical Center Dallas, making a $5 million donation that led to the 1999 opening of the Bright Building, a facility specializing in treating ear, nose and throat ailments.

"He really had a real interest in anybody, especially young people, who were really pushing to get ahead," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "He was partial if he saw a hustler or he saw somebody who was really ambitious. I really admired him."

Mr. Bright's wife, Peggy, said in a 1986 interview with The Dallas Morning News that her husband wasn't obsessed with possessions but that money was "the measure of what he does. It's the score at the bottom of his card."

That attitude made Mr. Bright a tough negotiator.

Retired Dallas banker Harvey Mitchell, who was a partner in Bright & Co. for 18 years, remembered Mr. Bright as having unwavering tenacity when it came to his business dealings.

"Once he got on a project, it almost took an act of Congress to call him off," Mr. Mitchell said.

Trained as a petroleum engineer, Mr. Bright made his fortune in Texas oil and gas before building a coast-to-coast trucking business. He later invested in banks, real estate and savings and loans.

Public failures

If his successes were Texas-size, so were his public failures.

He lost $29 million on the stock of RepublicBank Corp., where he was a board member, and $200 million in the 1989 failure of Bright Banc Savings Association.

Federal regulators seized control of his thrift during the costly cleanup that followed the collapse of the Texas savings and loan industry. Mr. Bright tried repeatedly to interest other investors in coming on board, but regulators wouldn't approve a deal that left Mr. Bright in charge, according to news accounts at the time.

He was in good company; many Texas executives of his era were caught up in the failure of the banks and S&Ls that once defined Dallas business.

But it was a painful interlude that included federal lawsuits over

RepublicBank and Bright Banc.

Away from the business world, Mr. Bright had a big hand in the decision that helped get Texas A&M football coach Tom Wilson fired before Jackie Sherrill was hired in 1981. Mr. Sherrill earned the highest salary of any college football coach at the time and was given the rare title of athletic director and coach. He was forced out when NCAA violations resulted in probation for the program.

Mr. Bright didn't fire Cowboys coach Tom Landry before selling the team to Jerry Jones in 1989, bringing scorn from fans who said he didn't deal honestly with Mr. Landry. Mr. Bright later told The News that he had asked Tex Schramm to fire Mr. Landry in 1987, but that Mr. Schramm wouldn't do it.

How he became 'Bum'

Born Harvey Roberts Bright on Oct. 6, 1920, in Muskogee, Okla., he spent most of his life in Texas. His father looked down at him when he was a baby and exclaimed that he looked like a railroad bum, Mr. Bright explained in an interview with The News.

"That's really the only name I ever had," Mr. Bright said.

His family moved to Highland Park when he was 8, and he graduated from

Highland Park High School in 1938. He started working in the oil fields but quickly discovered that the engineers had much better lives than the roustabouts. Mr. Bright enrolled at Texas A&M and graduated in 1943.

After that, he was called to active service in the Army Corps of Engineers and went to Europe to fight in World War II.

His upward career trajectory in the postwar years included involvement with one of Dallas' darkest political chapters: Mr. Bright co-sponsored a full-page newspaper ad written by local members of the John Birch Society that sharply criticized President John F. Kennedy on the morning of his fateful visit to Dallas, Nov. 22, 1963.

Typically, despite the assassination, Mr. Bright said later that he had no regrets about the ad, which simply reflected his conservative views.

Friends remembered a more lighthearted side of Mr. Bright.

One of the great Bum Bright stories is how he discovered a dog with a broken leg in a burned-out house. He bribed one of the medics to set the leg and then brought the dog home with him.

That started a long history of dogs living like kings in the Bright

residence.

Old-fashioned deal

His dealings with businessmen were also playful at times. In engineering the sale with Mr. Jones, Mr. Bright maneuvered in a tough but old-fashioned way.

"We shook hands when I bought the Cowboys, and we barely had a paper napkin full of details," Mr. Jones said. "And from that, we had to come up with 30 different decisions, and he was very honorable at that time.

"We came down to one of the last ones, and we flipped a coin and he won," Mr. Jones added. "Then, later when we closed the actual deal, he had enclosed that coin in a plastic container that you couldn't get into with a sledgehammer. And he wrote a note on it that said, 'You'll never know if that was a two-headed coin or not.' He had a great sense of humor."

Mr. Bright made a $25 million donation to Texas A&M in 1997. When asked about the amount, he said, "It's a nice, round number."

In a statement released Sunday, Texas A&M president Robert Gates said: "Bum Bright was the personification of what it means to be an Aggie. His love and commitment to Texas A&M University were unsurpassed. ... Aggies everywhere mourn his passing."

At 78, he did an interview at his office, where he was still going to work at 7 a.m. six days a week. "I just keep struggling, trying to make a living," he said.

That was part of his charm. He had a history of drinking beverages in seven sips because seven was one of his lucky numbers. When he arrived home from work, he would honk his car horn 11 times - another lucky number.

Luck aside, he worked hard and had a lot to show for it. James B. "Boots" Reeder, a former son-in-law and an employee for more than 20 years, called Mr. Bright a "brilliant businessman."

'A self-made man'

"He was a self-made man," Mr. Reeder said Sunday.

He was a "very good owner," said Gil Brandt, former Cowboys director of player personnel. "He was crusty, and he was tough."

But he was also honest and a true friend. "He was a great supporter of not only the Cowboys, but of mine," Mr. Jones said.

"He stood up during some real hard times for me early on, and I'll never forget that."

Along with his wife and his son, Mr. Bright is survived by his sister,

Rebecca Elizabeth Bright Madole of Dallas; two daughters, Martha Carol

Bright Hunter and Margaret Louise Bright Vonder Hoya; son Christopher

Roberts Bright; 14 grandchildren; and a great-grandchild.

A private burial will be at 2 p.m. Thursday. A memorial service will be at 4 p.m. Thursday at The Chapel of the Cross, 4333 Cole St. in Dallas.

Staff writers Suzanne Marta and Rachel Cohen and DallasNews.com staff writer Matt Mosley contributed to this report.

E-mail mheika@dallasnews.com

BUM BRIGHT TIMELINE

1948: Mr. Bright forms Bright Schiff Oil Producers with college roommate Herbert G. Schiff. In the course of three decades, the partnership builds the nation's largest private trucking company, East Texas Motor Freight, as well as Southern Trust and Mortgage and Park Cities Bank.

1963: Joins businessmen Nelson Bunker Hunt and Edgar Crissey in buying a full-page ad that ran Nov. 22 in The Dallas Morning News attacking the visiting President Kennedy for going "soft on Communists." In the wake of the assassination, the ad contributes to a belief nationwide that the city had been out to get the president. Mr. Bright defended the ad, saying he had and always would support right-wing causes.

1973: Buys Trinity Savings and Loan.

1974: Joins the board of RepublicBank Corp., becoming one of its largest shareholders by the mid-1980s.

1984: Trinity buys Texas Federal Savings for $88 million. Combined, the thrifts hold $2.3 billion in assets and are renamed Bright Banc Savings Association. ... Heads an 11-member limited partnership that purchases the Dallas Cowboys from the Murchison family.

1985: Bright Banc buys Dallas Federal Savings & Loan Association, which holds $2.2 billion in assets, for $107 million. ... Cowboys' new

headquarters at Valley Ranch opens Aug. 27.

1986: Forms Vulture I, an investment fund that buys repossessed real estate from Bright Banc and other institutions. ... Sees Cowboys coach Tom Landry's streak of 20 winning seasons end with a 7-9 record.

1987: Engineers merger of RepublicBank and InterFirst Bank Dallas, forming First RepublicBank Corp.

1988: At the height of the Texas banking crisis, First RepublicBank

collapses, and Mr. Bright loses $29 million in stock.

1989: Federal regulators seize Bright Banc because of mounting real estate losses. ... Sells Cowboys to Jerry Jones.

August 1991: Federal regulators sue former officers and directors of First RepublicBank Dallas for gross negligence.

January 1993: Along with other former officers of First RepublicBank, agrees to pay federal regulators $22 million to settle charges of gross mismanagement and end an 18-month legal battle.

-From staff reports

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"How did it happen they ("they"?!!) hit Connally?"

- LBJ, despite the multitude of "lone nut" statements the previous 7 days, during a 29NOV63 phone conversation with his longtime friend, longtime neighbor, & soon-to-be-appointed-by-LBJ-"for-life" F.B.I. Director, J. EDGAR HOOVER

Good Day Lee.... There is a slight chance that some of my conspiracy friends are going to jeer me a bit (oh well) after my next statements (and some, less sharp, warrenatti-apologists will applaud, very temporarily that is, until those same warrenatti-apologists realize....hopefully-epiphany-like....that ROSEMARY's second head movement....her ultrafast Z-214 to 217 headsnap towards the grassy knoll, in fact, positively indicates that, at least, 4 shots were fired)....

....I honestly believe that, given, President KENNEDY's Z-film displayed, rightward, fast, 65-degree head snap (which, imho, he did reactively, and impulsively, possibly/probably derived instinctively from his WWII experience/training without his first thinking about it) from Zf-155 to 158 (which is a fast 414-degrees-per-second head rotational speed compared to ROSEMARY's ultrafast 610-d.p.s. from Zf-214 to 217) was in reaction to a loud, audible event which was probably a gun shot related event.... ((please see my statements-accompanying chart below))....

....combined with....

....CONNALLY's Z-164 to 170 fast headsnap rightward of 95 degrees (a 289-d.p.s. speed), starting only 0.5 second after the president's rightward head snap indicates CONNALLY sensed a loud audible event. Connally always said and testified that he first turned rightward after hearing the first audible muzzle blast (or mechanically-suppress-fired bullet bow shockwave) that he remembered hearing.... (there is *no way* based on several filmed examples I have seen of CONNALLY demonstrating his first rightward head snap and torso turn rightward that he could have performed the head snap/torso turn he demonstrated in the only 1 second he was hidden from ZAPRUDER by the "Stemmons" freeway sign from 204 to 221)

....combined with....

....the first blur/jiggle episode imparted to ZAPRUDER's camera and detected and documented to be at from Zf-157 to 161 in 2 of 2 blur/jiggle episodes studies that include the pre-170 frames....

....combined with....

....a gun shot impulse present circa 155 on the D.P.D. radio recorded dictabelt tape....

....combined with....

....some known, close, key witnesses along Elm Street and his/her keen, detailed observed timestamped actions and reactions of the limousine occupants and other motorcade members....

....IMHO, probably all indicate --in fact, I think I will even say-- most likely all support that there was a loud audible event, probably gun shot related, that occured no later than Zf-151 (allowing four Z-frames for President KENNEDY's neurological-stimulus-then-physical response to begin to display itself in his rightward head snap starting at 155).

Of course, the warrenatti canard itself "determined" in 1963-64 that the warrenatti-posnerian "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree" foliage/branches did not even start to obscur President KENNEDY from the warrenatti "smokers nook" until Zf-160-162.

....I also think that Mrs. KENNEDY's much more leisurely (relative to her husband and CONNALLY, but still rapid) 175-degree headturn rightward, starting at Zf-169 and ending, mostly, by Zf-195 (a 124-d.p.s. average rate) was also in reaction to that same circa-151 gunshot related loud event.

....I also think that non-gunshots-experienced ROSEMARY WILLIS reacted impulsively childlike to either the circa-151 gunshot related event, or, she impulsively reacted to an additional shot in between 151 and 210 (afterall, she does not even start to, noticeably, slow down her trotting until 185), and her reaction to that circa-151 shot is displayed in her more leisurely slight head turn rightward as she was trotting 133 to 190, and was also the reason she started to slow down her trotting around 185-195 to a feet-stopped location by Zf-210 about even with where the president had been located at Zf-151.... Of course, IMHO, her head facing direction at Z-214--facing the west half of the TSBD south face--in profile to ZAPRUDER----NOT facing the far east corner----makes the whole point of her pre-214 actions entirely moot.... the TSBD west half that ROSEMARY was facing at Zf-214 contained the same open west window on the sixth floor through which ARNOLD ROWLAND testified that he observed the second armed assassin ROWLAND testified to (within a minute after seeing the west sixth floor assassin ROWLAND also saw the man in the far east sixth floor window), and, from which nearly a straight trajectory line from the "Harper skull fragment" found location leads back through the President at 313, back to the same west window.

....I also keep thinking about a woman inside the TSBD walking on the fifth floor during the seconds of the shooting (cannot recall her name at the immediate moment), and despite her being only one floor down, AND, much, much closer to the, supposed, warrenatti "snipers lair," she stated that of the shots that she remembered hearing, while she was facing east in the hallway, those shots originated from behind her--in other words, "her" remembered shot(s) originated from the west side of the TSBD.

....but then again.... maybe the circa 151 first audible event WAS a firecracker, or an overheated "Harley Davidson" D.P.D. motorcycle backfire, exactly as a vast amount of witnesses have stated

Here is my graph displaying the head turns timestamped points and the individual facing directions (relative to 0-degrees being limo forward) as seen in the Z-film of President KENNEDY, CONNALLY, Mrs. KENNEDY, and NELLIE all inlaid together, relative to each other....

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"I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say 'no, I think it was further down the street.' "

-TSBD employee JERALDEAN "Carolyn" REID in her earliest 11-23-63 DPD affidavit (CE2003, 24H223) REID and CAMPBELL were standing together, almost directly due south of the warrenatti's, supposed, "snipers lair"

....Good Day Shanet.... In relation to the limousine's forward direction (0-degrees) at Zf-313, President KENNEDY was facing only 27-degrees left of limousine-forward at Zf-313; towards the extreme left vertical chromed front windshield frame. (You'll have to explain, clearer, what you are talking about in relation to saying something about the president facing 150-degrees)

....Precisely because President KENNEDY was facing nearly 90-degrees away from the photo-theorized "badge man," was facing nearly 90-degrees away from the photo-theorized "#5 man," and was facing nearly 90-degrees away from the HSCA-scientifically-determined+photo-theorized GK assassin locations at Zf-313, and, the medical evidence, as it exists, does not support that a high velocity projectile exited the left half of President KENNEDY's head, IMHO, my present conclusion about what is seen in Zf-312 to 313 is that none of the above 3 assassins (whether one or all 3 existed in reality) struck the president in the head between 312 and 313 with a high velocity projectile. (interestingly, the HSCA did conclud that the HSCA-scientifically-determined assassin's shot did miss at Zf-299)

An assassin located even more forward of President KENNEDY is, IMHO, more likely--again, given the medical evidence as it exists (see below). For 29+ years I have never completely discounted that an assassin firing from the overpass north side vertical sewer impacted the head with a mechanically-suppress-fired bullet (a.k.a. a "silenced" bullet)--President KENNEDY's head then torso violent snaps back-up-and-left motion seems, IMHO, to directionally point to a more-forward-of-JFK direction than the fence corner/retaining wall area his head was nearly perpendicular to at 313....additionally, recent shooting recreations utilizing lasers have demonstrated clearly to me that a shot fired from that overpass north side sewer (as well as the overpass' south side, clearing the upper windshield chrome frame by 2" to 4" but only between the pushed-upwards sun visors) would have been clear and not tree trunks unobstructed from 315 to 315, and then, the sewer itself would have aforded a very rapid way to hide, then escape completely undetected.... the one consideration that creates slight doubts in my mind is the 2 men ((labeled on my DP map as "B-1" and "B-2")) who were seen in the BELL film just seconds after the attack standing right where the overpass angles more eastward, only about 25' from where such a overpass north side vertical sewer assassin could have fired unobstructed from.... it seems that if B-1 and B-2 were not co-conspirators (HOLLAND may have spoke of them as the railroad car inspectors he did not know the names of) that they would have heard a shot fired from only 25' away and reacted to capture the assassin or, at the very least, B-1 and/or B-2 would have told the authorities what they heard/saw.... or maybe, B-1 and B-2 saw that assassin or heard a shot from closeby but just decided not to get involved.... then again, B-1 and B-2 have never been identified, so, who is to say?; maybe B-1 and B-2 were, indeed, co-conspirator spotters stationed deliberately at that overpass corner to prevent the overpass and D.P.D. witnesses from coming around that corner during the attack?)

That is not to say --if one or all of those 3 theorized assassins existed in reality-- that he/they fired a shot that completely missed hitting anyone and the limo.

That being said, possibly one of those 3 assassins -if he actually existed- possibly could have fired a micro-second-trailing shot just after the 312/313 explosion, but fired it before 315 (because the president, after a 314 pause in movement, first starts moving rearward at 315) that penetrated the already-existing 312/313-created wound, with the 313-to-315 second impacting bullet causing the violent back/left head/torso snap.... From speaking with Dr. ROBERTSON and other medical professionals (which I am certainly not) there does seem to be some probative supporting evidence for nearly simultaneous double head impacts. Some warrenatti-apologists say of the double head impact theory that 2 different-located assassins could not have possibly deliberately timed 2 separate shots so close together.... to which I say, "Who is claiming that 2 different head impacting assassins deliberately timed their shots that way.... in the real and the meta-physical world, the reality is that 2 separate events can, very well, occur nearly, or, exactly, simultaneously."

....Some seeming support for 2 nearly simultaneous head impacts....

....Exploring the forensic head blood splatter and head spray evidence, at 313 and after 313 there are, undeniably by anyone, several large head pieces moving forward in 313.... ALTGENS stated to TRASK that headmatter trajected almost 40' forward to land near ALTGENS feet.... WILLIAM HARPER diagramed he found the "Harper skull fragment" some 117' forward of the president.... the windshield frame dent and glass crack found forward.... 3 bullet frags found forward, and basically centered under NELLIE"s limo seat (one was found ((or was it placed?)) within the floor seat-track-channel controlling the forward/rear movement of her seat).... 2 large bullet frags found forward circa the limo's front bench seat.... blood and matter found on the inside and outside front left windshield glass and found only on the inside front right windshield glass.... and there were a percentage of witnesses who detected an above-their-head gunfire source from the Elm/Houston intersection....

....yet....

we also have CHARLES BREHM the World War II/Korean war, battles-experienced veteran vividly detailing for us that he was attracted to observe a distinct piece of something (i.e. a piece big enough to distinctly separate and see) traject rearward and leftward towards BREHM (BREHM's earliest, very first 12:45 pm statement about a shots source was "the shots came from in front of or beside the president").... the WIEGMAN film seeming to show smoke lingering under the picket fence corner oak tree foliage windbreak--exactly where the HSCA-determined assassin was located and possibly barely seen in the MOORMAN #5 polaroid photo.... many (7 or 8) overpass witnesses seeing that picket fence corner gunsmoke.... ED HOFFMAN, JEAN HILL, and LEE BOWERS statements claiming to have seen a suspicious grassy knoll person (HOFFMAN claims to have seen gunsmoke then the rifle; HILL the gunsmoke-but she claimed it only years later; BOWERS alluded to something that attracted his eye but he waited 3 years to publicly claim that).... the MOORMAN #5 polaroid photo, WILLIS photo, NIX film, MUCHMORE film, and the DPD dictabelt all seeming to show the presence of someone(s) on the GK.... ALTGENS telling LANE in 1965 that just before the president came through several persons suddenly appeared in the GK/fence/wall area--one of which he seemed to remember as being D.P.D.-uniformed.... ROSEMARY WILLIS's ultrafast headsnap westward towards the grassy knoll (which I discovered; please read from the link below, which is after my signature, and also contains what I think is the distinct possibility of from where a Z-313 shot really came from).... overpass earwitnesses and a percentage of ear witnesses who detected a gunfire source from the area west of the TSBD.... several witnesses described that the last shot (as with the first "firecracker"/"backfire"-sounding shot) that they remembered hearing sounded noticeably different than the other shots.... many "LN-inconvenient" witnesses who have stated they heard a muzzle blast or mechanically-suppressed bullet bow shockwave distinctly AFTER they had already seen the head explode (especially closest-to-President KENNEDY witnesses; one of which I am completing my interviews with and will be soon detailing her important observations--two observations of hers being VERY important, and who has only spoken with 2 other researchers in the last 41+ years).... D.P.D. SMITH encountering an "agent" and smelling gunsmoke.... MALCOLM SUMMERS (and people who SUMMERS said were near him when they also ran behind the GK) and GORDON ARNOLD claiming to encounter someone who was armed.... street level and motorcade street level witnesses, 60'-84' below the supposed "snipers lair," smelling gunsmoke when the wind was blowing northeastward TOWARDS the TSBD.... D.P.D. HARKNESS encountering several armed men in suits behind the TSBD within minutes.... WORRELL seeing a man dash out the TSBD rear running northeast within 2-3 minutes.... the NIX film seems to show headmatter moving rearward across the limo trunk.... HARGIS was hit with something hard enough for him to first think he had been shot and he and MARTIN were both splattered with blood and matter.... KINNEY in he SS-followup car has his left arm and left windshield splattered.... JEAN HILL warrenatti-testifies that an "agent" told her that a DP-watching "agent" saw something kick up debris (or the "agent" saw headmatter debris) close to her feet.... CLINT HILL's suit has a small amount of headmatter splattered onto it.... Mrs. KENNEDY's face --even though her face was on the left side of --and about even with, height-wise-- the president at 313-- is splattered (her testimony is very interesting, once you understand it timestamped with what we see in the ZAPRUDER film--among other considerations, she testified that she saw (i.e. she was ATTRACTED by movement to view) a flesh colored piece of skull be detached--yet, as is clearly seen in the Z-film, her face is tilted downward and her headtop (and eyes) are roughly even with President KENNEDY's headtop (and eyes) until the early Zf-320's--meaning only one of two possibilities--either she saw the result of a second projectile penetrating an already-existing gaping wound and forced the piece of skull to detach that she observed, or, when the president's head snapped violently backwards the violent headsnapping backwards flung out the piece of skull that she observed.

....As I mentioned, I am not a medical professional (and because of that I have always strived to speak with medical professionals as much as possible and understand the assassination medical evidence interpretations as much as I can). The "LN-conveniently"-sized 6.5 mm, "LN-conveniently"-nearly-round piece of bullet fragment that was never testified to/spoken/written about by any of the Bethesda "medical professionals" nor witnesses has bothered me for over 29 years. It peaks my curiousity when this "LN-convenient" bullet fragment ---I call it the "magic 6.5 mm bullet fragment"--- "magically," suddenly, is seen on the x-rays when the x-rays started to be first examined in the late-60's. It peaks my curiousity when we are told to accept that a high-velocity projectile, "LN-conveniently"-supposedly fired from the rear, suddenly appears and is noticed on the x-rays at a precise location some 4" above the warrenatti-theorized entrance point, embedded (meaning the "magic 6.5 mm bullet fragment" not only stopped suddenly after trajecting at a warrenatti 1800-2000 feet-per-second velocity, but also meaning that --in the world of warrenatti apologists-- the military-specification fully-metal-jacketed "magic 6.5 mm bullet fragment" fragmented while it first entered the skull at 1800 to 2000 feet-per-second) and also simultaneously embedded onto the OUTSIDE of the skull.

....I have additional considerations that all are interelated to what happened that day (and the years that have followed), and will return to this thread when I have more time.

....and Shanet.... my last name is, correctly, listed everywhere, and, correctly, spelled Roberdeau....
My family, friends, and aquaintances all find it much easier to write and call me Don

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"From a moral standpoint, Johnson had no use for religion except for the political benefits that it bestowed upon him. He had no use for the sanctity of marriage except for the voting benefits it offered to him as a 'married man.' And, his desire for alcohol, just like with sex, was excessive. In short, moral rules relating to his personal conduct had no effect on stopping him from getting what he wanted."

----CRAIG ZIRBEL, summarizing LBJ's amoral characteristics that may have contributed, along with 4 on-going criminal investigations implicating LBJ, to LBJ's motivations for wanting President KENNEDY assassinated, "The Texas Connection" (pg.108)

"How did it happen they ("they"?!!) hit Connally?"

- LBJ, despite the multitude of "lone nut" statements the previous 7 days, during a phone conversation with his longtime friend, nearly-nextdoor-neighbor, longtime political cronie, & soon-to-be-appointed-"for-life" F.B.I. Director, J. EDGAR HOOVER, 29NOV63

Thank you for posting news that Harvey Bright had died. As far as I can see, only Madeleine Brown has suggested that Bright was involved in the assassination. As Ron has pointed out, there is no evidence that the party actually took place. See the research carried out by Gary Mack on this.

There is another reason why Bright is unlikely to have been involved in the conspiracy. Bright, along with Edgar R. Crissey and Nelson Lamar Hunt, helped to pay for the full-page, black-bordered anti-Kennedy advertisement that ran in the Dallas Morning News on the day that Kennedy was assassinated. The advert, placed by Bernard Weissman, attacked Kennedy's foreign policy as being anti-American and communistic. Some people interpreted the black borders as a threat against JFK.

Bright would have to be a madman to have paid for such an advert if he knew that JFK was to be assassinated that day. It is probably significant that his friends, Clint Murchison and George Brown, did not get involved in paying for this advert.

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----St. Matthew 5:6

Good Day.... Located within this 12-13-04 internet article....

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....is the un-referenced statement....

" *A declassified CIA memo from the 1950s describes a scenario in which a government-programmed assassin/defector kills an American official and is then "disposed of" after being taken into custody."

....Does anyone have a specific reference for this, supposed, CIA memo from the 1950's? Thank You.

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"Mr. GOLDSMITH - Does this [H.S.C.A.] memorandum make reference to 37 documents being missing from Oswald's 201 file?

Mr. HELMS - Yes, it does. It says that in 1964, February 20, a comparison of the documents available in 201 file and those recorded as being those in the 201 file has shown 37 documents which should be in the 201 file are not available in it. And there is a breakdown of what seems to be missing."

-exchange during the 25SEP78 H.S.C.A. testimony of RICHARD HELMS, the C.I.A.'s 1963 Deputy Director for Plans

HARVEY R. "Bum" BRIGHT, 84, died 12-11-04....

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Of course, unmentioned in the obituary is that BRIGHT was also a member of the "American Fact Finding Committee," who, with H. L. HUNT, EDGAR CRISSEY, JOSEPH P. GRINNAN (also a Dallas local coordinator for "John Birch Society"), and ROBERT P. GRINNAN, contributed money for the infamous "Welcome to Dallas" full page critique of President KENNEDY that ran in the 22NOV63 "Dallas Morning News" newspaper.

Billionaire and "Hunt Oil" founder, HAROLDSON LAFAYETTE "H. L." HUNT's extreme right-wing exploits are numerous. ....among them.... http://www.jfkconspiracy.com/tour109.htm

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HUNT was, supposedly, at the CLINT MURCHISON Sr. party on 21NOV63 that HOOVER, NIXON, LBJ, McCLOY, G.BROWN, R.THORNTON, H.L.HUNT, IMM, H.L. HUNT, TOLSON, McCLOY, MADELEINE BROWN, and others supposedly also attended. The "Torbitt Document" claimed that HUNT was a co-conspirator part of the "Permindex" KENNEDY assassination cabal. HUNT also authored the somewhat rare far right-wing book, "ALPACA" (1960) that contains an onion-skin insert page entitled, "Amendments which have been suggested for the Constitution of Alpaca." The book is a far right-wing screed, related closely to the kind of atmosphere which greeted JFK three years later in Dallas. Hunt's constitution for his fictitious country, for example, would give 7 votes to "each citizen if one of top 10% of direct National taxpayers"; then he grades it on down to we peons, fortunate to receive a single vote by the grace of that top 10% in which the Hunt family dwelt. It has a "protagonist," one "Juan Achala," citizen of Alpaca who's ditching its environs for greener--read, "More Right Wing"--pastures. In 1995 researcher DICK RUSSELL offered the ARRB private papers that RUSSELL stated showed that the HUNT family was investigating starting in 1967 what JIM GARRSION was investigating and learning.

JOSEPH P. GRINNAN's name was found among ASHLAND BURCHWELL possessions in the car BURCHWELL was driving when BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 and a large cache of arms and ammunition was found inside car (accordding to a memorandum for the FBI dated 14NOV62 by the Headquarters Department of the Army Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Summary information Region 2, 112th Intelligence NTC Group, Station "C," Commerce Street, Dallas, TX) J. GRINNAN was also a local coordinator for the "John Birch Society." When "Bircher" BURCHWELL was arrested 14NOV62 besides a large cache of arms and ammunition found inside car was also names, addresses, and phone number's of certain people (some of the persons info was coded), and BURCHWELL said he was "enroute to Mississippi to aid Governor Barnett's cause by lending support to former Major General Edwin A. Walker." The same 14NOV62, 112th Intelligence NTC Group memo also mentioned JACK RUBY stripper, "Joy Dale," a.k.a. JOYCE WITHERSPOON McDONALD. This 112th Intelligence NTC Group included Dealey Plaza earwitness and shortly after attack photographer/Defense Protective Service special agent of 112th Military Intelligence Group U.S. Army Captain & Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX, region 2, JAMES POWELL, who stated that very shortly after the attack from the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository he called SAMUEL H. PATE, also a DPS special agent of 112th MIG, U.S. Army Lt. Colonel & Regional Commanding Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX. ROBERT E. JONES, the DPS special agent of 112th MIG and U.S. Army Lt. Colonel & Operations Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston, TX told the HSCA that there were 8 to 12 DPS agents on duty in plainclothes within Dealey Plaza and that PATE would have debriefed the 8 to 12 DPS agents afterwards. Also in his HSCA testimony JONES stated that POWELL was on duty 22NOV63. JONES provided the Army intelligence file information about OSWALD and "A. J. Hidell" to the FBI offices in San Antonio and Dallas. JONES told HSCA interviewer HAROLD WHEAT that he was aware of OSWALD's Mexico City trip BEFORE the assassination and that he did not believe OSWALD acted alone during the assassination. JONES also told WHEAT that he was surprised that neither the FBI, SS, CIA, WC ever interviewed him during the initial investigations.

JAMES POWELL took his TSBD south face slide photo seconds after attack using a 35mm "Minolta" camera because at least a couple persons pointed out the source of the shots as the TSBD. POWELL went to TSBD rear to help deputies where POWELL spoke with a beer company employee man who POWELL told someone to arrest. (before the assassination POWELL's 112 MIG main job responsibility was to run security investigations for security clearances on both military and civilian personnel) After the assassination POWELL was soon sealed within TSBD when he went in it to use phone on 2nd floor to call his commander PATE & where he heard PIERECE ALLMAN say that JFK was shot at and hit possibly from TSBD & the only reason we ever found out about POWELL is that he had to show his military i.d. to get out of the TSBD at 1:45pm. POWELL overheard BRENNAN's observations which he reported to PATE in a second phone call to PATE. POWELL claimed in his HSCA testimony he went near the grassy knoll/railroad tracks area and had to show his i.d. to D.P.D. officers/deputies who wondered why POWELL was helping them and that POWELL would have identified himself as a "military intelligence agent" or "special agent of the military intelligence." POWELL further told the HSCA that he could not have possibly been mistaken for the "grassy knoll agent(s)" that several witnesses (JOE SMITH, MALCOLM SUMMERS, etc.) described because POWELL testified that he always had his camera out in plain view and none of the "grassy knoll agent(s)" witnesses ever said they saw a camera. During the attack POWELL was close to DP, one block east of Houston Street walking west on Elm, and he remembered hearing 2 or 3 shots. POWELL had his film developed commercially and after gave it to EARL E. BOYD a Lt. Colonel also of the 112th Intel NTC. A little known fact is that before the assassination POWELL was also at Love Field, where he told the ARRB that he took 3 or 4 photos. (have those photos ever been made public? Can anyone identify POWELL in any Love Field photos and/or filmed frames?)

EARL E. BOYD (WCD 205, WCD 206) in a report stated that persons in his division had heard that on 20NOV63 two men had been observed sighting in a rifle on Continental Street.

According to then-U.S. Air Force Colonel and the Department of Defense Joint Chiefs of Staff Chief of Special Operations, LEROY FLETCHER PROUTY, the U.S. Army's Commander of 112th Military Intelligence Group at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston in Austin, TX, Colonel MAXIMILLIAN REICH, before the assassination was supposedly ordered by someone to *stand down* his supplemental Presidential protective team personnel (according to PROUTY, REICH's second-in-command, last-named CABAZA, also protested the *stand down*)

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----an oil-tycoon-millionaire in "Giant" (1956)

Thanks, Don, for your take on Ms. Willis' movements. I noticed the movement myself but wrote it off as her looking back to the President after momentarily being distracted. The speed of her movement, however, argues otherwise. Good work.

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....Good Day Pat.... Thanks Pat.... Indeed, the child-impulsive speed of her ZAPRUDER film documented headsnap westward towards the grassy knoll is very strong support because it is the fastest reactive, probably attracted, headsnap displayed by any non-limo witness seen in any attack film.

Visually imagine looking at someone and how fast would appear seeing their head rotate nearly two full complete times around their neck within only one second.

Also supportive is the timing of her headsnap --starting less than one second after a gunshot impulse present on the D.P.D. dictabelt (utilizing Dr. THOMAS's gunshots sequencing), and ROSEMARY herself telling the HSCA that when she was facing the GK she was attracted to watch a person drop quickly downwards behind a wall (or did she mean, or actually tell the HSCA "fence"?) out of her sight.

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"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack while still standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

Who were the other two people besides Emmett Hudson on the stairs on the knoll?

Are they not on your map? I can't see any names there.


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....Wim.... Besides HUDSON, the other two men have never been identified, nor come forward voluntarily.

I still have some slight doubts about which of the 3 was HUDSON, so, I have not labeled which of the 3 men HUDSON was onto my DP map. (he, most-likely, was the man on the upper left)

I have, so far, not remembered to ask BOB GRODEN, but a few years ago someone claimed that a black man by the name of MIKE BROWNLOW who helps GRODEN sell his books/videos in DP has claimed that he knows the identities of the black man and woman who SITZMAN observed shortly before and shortly after the attack sitting on/running away from the retaining wall sitting bench.

IF the black man from that couple who sat on the bench is the same man seen/photographed/filmed during the attack amongst the trio of men standing halfway up the pergola steps (the man on the upper right, who, almost immediately after the headshot ran away northwestward up towards the pergola), then it would be important for a Dallas-local researcher to take it for ACTION to speak with MIKE BROWNLOW to get some introduction to the retaining wall sitting bench black man and woman and learn/publicize their observations.

"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack and while still standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

Don

Some other questions about your impressive research chart.
One, how firm are the names of the people on the overpass?
Were they really all RR employees? They look like police/detectives.

Two, how elevated was Nix relative to Moorman?
They had similar point of views, but the classic gunman and carhood show up clearly in the Nix motion picture but not in Moorman's polaroid...also,
where do you think the car (the carhood near classic gunman figure) was?
Could the car have been up close to the retaining wall? It looks like it in Nix.
Has anyone identified the car behind the wall?

Do you agree that the limousine had slowed to eight miles an hour?
Were the brake lights on?

Thank you for all your efforts.............

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....Good Day Shanet.... Except for D.P.D. JOE FOSTER (who warrenatti-testified he saw a bullet ((or something, possibly a piece of head)) skip off the Elm Street south curb sewer cement apron's southwest corner & within minutes reported what he saw & was ordered to guard that specific sewer area) and D.P.D. WHITE (both of whom are annotated on my professionally-surveyed DP map in purple to represent the police), the rest of the TOP witnesses (annotated in blue) were railroad employees. (the possible four exceptions being KLEIN, BECK, "B-1," "B-2"; I think one of the TOP witnesses, possibly HOLLAND, warrenatti-testified that B-1 and B-2 --seen in the BELL film just seconds after the attack-- were railroad car inspectors)

....NIX's camera was about 8' higher than MOORMAN's camera during the attack, and, importantly, the ground NIX was standing on during the attack was almost exactly the same heigth-above-sea-level as the ground on the northwest side of the retaining wall, which also means that NIX's camera was almost at the exact same heigth-above-sea-level as the top of the GK's picket fence.

....the unidentified yellow or light-colored car seen in NIX was not close to the retaining wall--instead it was in the parking lot, parked some 20' northwest of the north pergola's cupola shelter #3, parked near/up against the ground railroad wood tie used as a stop/curb for cars. The yellow/light-colored car may actually have been identified. From my notes about collective statements/warrenatti-testimonies made by D.P.D. patrolmen WILLIAMS, LOMAX and 2 or 3 other D.P.D. patrolman (one of whom possibly also being "agent"-encountering/gunsmoke-smelling D.P.D. JOE SMITH) were ordered (ordered by whom is never asked nor stated) and all involved in searching the parking lot cars and recording the license plate numbers. That list was given to a DPD Sgt. HOWARD, but that list of license plate numbers --as far as I know-- has never been made public. (THAT list would be an excellent, important discovery for any researcher to make!)

With that being said about the yellow/light-color car, I have always found JIM HICKS testimony to the New Orleans grand jury about seeing an assassin kneeling from a car trunk interesting:

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Hicks_0001a.htm

....Yes, as described by several witnesses and filmed, the limousine brake lights were illuminated just before/during/after the instant that President KENNEDY's head first exploded when the limousine had slowed to 8 to 9 mph. (look on my DP map within Main Street between the north and south peristyles, labeled in blue "LIMO. SPEED" and the calculated speeds of the limousine from Zf-260 to 362 are detailed in a column)

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....One important consideration to always bear in mind whether you are considering the location of the "classic gunman" figure (who LIFTON labeled the "#5 man" in 1967), the "badge man," or the HSCA-determined GK assassin.... President KENNEDY was facing nearly 90-degrees away from any of those three at Zf-313, and there is ZERO evidence in the medical evidence AND medical witness statements that there was a wound anywhere on the left half of the President's head. (actually, there was one medical witness --i canot recall whom at the moment--possibly US Navy Captain DAVID OSBOURNE at Bethesda-- who stated there was a wound near the left temple)

"I wasn't keeping track of the number of pops that took place, but I could vouch for number one, and I can vouch for the last shot, but I cannot tell you how many shotS were in between."

----JAMES ALTGENS, close attack witness, during his 22JUL64 warrenatti-testimony (07H517-518)

Good Day.... Having been a while since I read it, I was browsing through LIFTON's book, "Best Evidence."

The following is from a 01NOV65 telephone conversation between LIFTON and "Associated Press photographer/news photo editor/wire photo operator, JAMES "Ike" WILLIAM ALTGENS,

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He was friendly on the phone and mentioned quite casually that just before the motorcade came by, a number of people suddenly appeared behind the wall on the knoll. (84) He added that he thought it was an odd place to watch the parade from since the car would speed up right there as it entered the Stemmons Freeway. This was new, exciting information, but I was worried that Altgens might be confusing this recollection with his description of people on the overpass, which was mentioned in his Warren Commission testimony. But he assured me he was talking about the wall on the grassy knoll--to the right of the stairs when one faced the knoll.

When I asked Altgens if there were any police among the "people" he saw, he replied, "I seem to remember that there were. (85)

(84) Author's memo, 11/1/65 conversation with Altgens

(85) Ibid

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"I wasn't keeping track of the number of pops that took place, but I could vouch for number one, and I can vouch for the last shot, but I cannot tell you how many shotS were in between."

----JAMES ALTGENS, close attack witness, during his 22JUL64 warrenatti-testimony (07H517-518)

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Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS
ZAPRUDER Film Documented 2nd Head Snap:
West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards
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After assisting ground forces in Fallujah with an air strike, the men and women aboard Mayport-based carrier U.S.S. John F. Kennedy are making the slow journey back to the states -- in time to spend the Christmas holiday with their families.

In phone interviews with Channel 4's Frank Powers on Wednesday, several personnel aboard the JFK spoke about their deployment and the return trip home.

The carrier's skipper, Capt. Dennis FitzPatrick, said he was very pleased with

"The crew has just done some magnificent work," he said. "They did exceptionally well. I am very blessed with some very talented, young professionals. … They just didn't miss a beat. They really understood why they were here."

Crew members found out they would be assisting two weeks prior to the campaign.

"The big change that we saw were our hours were longer," said FitzPatrick about the mission.

Despite the extended deployment, he said spirits aboard the ship were high.

"My lasting impression of this deployment and this crew is just the super morale," he said.

A wing commander aboard the JFK agreed.

"From the lowest sailors all the way up to the guys flying the airplanes over the beach, they performed really well and what was most impressive was it didn't matter how long we flew … or how hot it was outside -- they got the job done," he said.

He also spoke about the chance to try out new weaponry with precision aiming that allowed them to take out targets and leave civilian buildings untouched.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Wesley Vinson said one of the best feelings for him during the missions was knowing he helped fellow troops.

"Seeing our guys in their Humvees looking up at us and waving at us as we're flying over them really just gave me a sense of pride, knowing that we were protecting them as they were protecting people on the ground," he said.

Vinson said he planned on spending time with his wife and 14-month-old daughter when he returned home.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Richard Osborn had a similar idea. He and his wife were married only one month before he was deployed, and he said he's looking forward to making up for lost time.

But more than 900 sailors on three Mayport ships won't be home for Christmas. They will deploy Monday to join in the war effort. The guided missile frigate Taylor, guided missile destroyer Carney and destroyer O'Bannon will participate in regional exercises with allies and make diplomatic port calls.

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"So let us not be petty when our cause is so great. Let us not quarrel amongst ourselves when our national future is at stake. Let us stand together with renewed confidence in our cause - united in our heritage and our hopes for the future - and determine that this land we love shall lead all mankind into new frontiers of peace and abundance."

----President KENNEDY, from the speech he was scheduled to give at the Texas State Democratic Committee, 22NOV63

A Good Day, Indeed.... Apparently, Dan "his head, can be seen to move violently forward" Rather is retiring.

FINALLY !!!! FINALLY !!!! FINALLY !!!! FINALLY !!!!

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".... The Govenor's coat was open. He, he reached back in this fashion.... back.... as if to, offer aid, or, ask the President something. At that moment a shot clearly hit the Govenor in the front and he fell back in his seat. Mrs. Connally immediately threw herself over him in a protective position. In the next instant, with, apparently, Mrs. Kennedy looking on, a second shot, the third shot total, hit the President's head. He, his head, can be seen to move violently forward. ...."

-Dan Rather during the first-ever radio description of the ZAPRUDER film "reported" to the American people, 25NOV63

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Dr. DONALD THOMAS during his NID-2001 presentation, "Hear No Evil":

The x-ray of the President's head taken at the autopsy revealed a metal fragment on the outside of the cranium located 10 cm dorsad of the occipital protuberance. The scalp wound in apposition to this piece of metal was described in the autopsy facing sheet (7 HSCA 253) as "ragged, slanting" with an arrow indicating an upward trajectory. Dr. RUSSELL FISHER, the chairman of the forensic pathology panel appointed by Attorney General RAMSEY CLARK to review the autopsy materials concluded that the piece of metal was, "...most likely a richochet fragment" (interview in Menninger pp. 64-66).

I am not a forensic pathologist, but Dr. FISHER's expert diagnosis meshes well with the filmed evidence of the President's reaction, the accounts of the eyewitnesses, and explains the ragged nature of the scalp wound. Or, we may choose to rely on the HSCA Forensic Pathology panel's expertise on how this piece of metal came to be lodged on the outside of the President's skull. The Warren Commission's doctors elected not to report this piece of metal in their autopsy protocol. The forensic pathology panel met with the Chief Prosector, JAMES HUMES, and asked him about the fragment and scalp lesion. Transcripts of the panel's discussion elicited the following opinion from Dr. GEORGE LOQUVAM:

COE: "The reason we are so interested in this, Dr. Humes, is because other pathologists have interpreted the..."

LOQUVAM: "I don't think this belongs in the damn record."

HUMES: "Well, it probably doesn't."

LOQUVAM: "You guys are nuts. You guys are nuts writing this stuff. It doesn't belong in the damn record." (7HSCA255)