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Good Day All.... The 5:30 PM CST on 23NOV63 "Harper fragment"

discovered location --according to a DP map marked years later by

WILLIAM HARPER, himself-- was in the grass south of the Elm Street

south curbstone, 117' forward of President KENNEDY's Zf-313

location, to the left of the limousine facing direction at Zf-313, but

to the right of his head facing direction at Zf-313. (see professionally

surveyed DP map below)

Lee, possibly when you mentioned the 20' figure you were, instead, thinking of

the BREHM fragment --which landed about 26' behind President KENNEDY's

Zf-313 location, and to the left of his head facing direction. (see

professionally surveyed DP map below) I will say one thing, Lee, there was a

witness (cannot recall his name, but he was a DPD or Sheriif) who stated that

he disctinctly heard a woman shouting (paraphrasing) "They're shooting the

president from the bushes!!"

....The following is a genesis of BREHM's statements over the years, starting

with his first publicly recorded statement within minutes of the attack while

he was still standing within DP, to his statements in a 1988 interview as

quoted by SNEED.

IMHO, BREHM/BREHM's family/BREHM's earned military veteran benefits may have

been threatened (as several other witnesses have stated), yet, in reading his

statements over the years, almost every single one of them contains, at

least, one observation by the D-Day, World War II battles experienced U.S.

Army Ranger veteran that contradicts the warrenatti/posnerian theories

...Even with probably being threatened, BREHM continued to detail the

timestampings of what he saw and heard...

"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE

the President." (my EMPHASIS..."FRONT" or "BESIDE" = self-evident)

----CHARLES F. BREHM quoted just minutes after the attack and while still

standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

After 11-22-63, and throughout the rest of his public life, BREHM, then,

publicly claimed that the shots that he remembered hearing

seemed to come from the Houston/Elm "i-n-t-e-r-s-e-c-t-i-o-n."

("intersection" buildings = Dal-Tex, County Records, and the TSBD)

(BREHM's 11-22-63 D.P.D. affidavit has, so far, "disappeared" from the

evidence... hmmmm)

"He was coming down the street and my five-year-old boy and myself were by

ourselves on the grass there on Commerce Street, and I asked Joe to wave to

him and Joe waved, and I waved--and the ma--the man----As he--as he was waving

back he was--he was----the shot rang out and he slumped down in his seat and

his wife reached up toward him and he was slumping down and the second shot

went off and it just--just knocked him down in the seat. ... Two shots....

... No sir, I did not see the man who did it. I--I----All I--all I did was

look in the mans' face when he was shot there and saw that expression on his

face and he grabbed himself and slide, and the second one whenever it went----

I'm positive it hit him--I hope it didn't--but I'm positive it hit him and he

went all the way down in the car, then they speeded up and I didn't know what

was going on so I just grabbed the boy and fell on him and hoped that there

wasn't a maniac around."

----CHARLES F. BREHM, recorded within an hour after the attack for tv and

radio (as documented in the Z-film the president did not start to wave until

Zf-174 (after the warrenatti-posnerian "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree" hid the

president from *anyone's* "lone nut" "snipers lair" view from Zf-160 to 208),

then BREHM remembered hearing "his" first shot --not necessarily others

first shot-- which also was the shot that first impacted the president--

while the president was waving after Zf-174)

In his above very emotional interview, I have wondered if when BREHM stammered

out the words "Two shots..." but did not add any details, if what BREHM was

telling us was "Two shots nearly simultaneously" as so many of the attack

witnesses, also, stated and supported.

"When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the

President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward

when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle

shot sounded. According to BREHM, the President seemed to stiffen and come to

a pause when another shot sounded and the President appeared to be badly hit

in the head. Brehm said when the President was hit by the second shot, he

could notice the President's hair fly up, and then roll over to his side, as

Mrs. KENNEDY was apparently pulling him in that direction.

BREHM said that a third shot followed and that all three shots were relatively

close together. BREHM stated that he was in military service and he has had

experience with bolt-action rifles, and he expressed his opinion that the

three shots were fired just about as quickly as an individual can maneuver a

bolt-action rifle, take aim, and fire three shots.

BREHM stated he definitely knew that the President had been shot and he

recalled having seen blood on the President's face. He also stated that it

seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings

back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets."

----CHARLES F. BREHM statement to the FBI, 24NOV63 (3rd audible muzzle blast

or 3rd mechanically-suppress-fired bullet bow shockwave distinctly AFTER

the Zf-313 head explosion = self-evident)

"I saw a piece fly over in the area of the curb where I was standing. .... It

seemed to have come left, and back. .... Sir, whatever it was that I saw did

fall, both, in that direction, and, over into the curb there."

----CHARLES F. BREHM to MARK LANE during the 1966 assassination documentary

film, "Rush to Judgment" (a piece of anything is not going to "fly over"

unless it was caused to be trajected by a collision--in this case a bullet

fired from the front a micro-second after the already impacted Zf-312-to-313

bullet--impacting a micro-second after the headshot explosion....note also

that JEAN HILL warrenatti-testified that she was told by an "agent" that

during the attack another "agent" stationed in Dealey Plaza (even

though no known "agent" was ever, officially, stationed in Dealey Plaza) said

he saw a bullet kick up debris near HILL's feet...recall also that HARGIS was

quoted 11-22-63 by the "New York Daily News" stating, "...then, I saw the

president's head explode. Then, I felt something hit me, which could have been

concrete. I thought at first I might have been hit.") THAT simple 11-22-63

statement by HARGIS shatters the utter silliness by the

warrenatti apologists that HARGIS drove through the initial head explosion

blood cloud, and his driving through a blood cloud of very-small-sized,

airborn, blood droplets is what felt like concrete.

"After the car passed the building coming toward us, I heard a . . .

surprising noise, and [the President] reached with both hands up to the side

of his throat and kind of stiffened out . . . And when he got down in the area

just past me, the second shot hit which damaged, considerably damaged, the top

of his head. . . . That car took off in an evasive motion . . . and was just

beyond me when a third shot went off. The third shot really frightened me! It

had a completely different sound to it because it had really passed me as

anybody knows who has been in down under targets in the Army or been shot at

like I had been many times. You know when a bullet passes over you, the

cracking sound it makes, and that bullet had an absolute crack to it. I do

believe that that shot was wild. It didn't hit anybody. I don't think it could

have hit anybody. But it was a frightening thing to me because here was one

shot that hit him, obviously; here was another shot that destroyed his head,

and what was the reason for that third shot? That third shot frightened me

more than the other two, and I grabbed the boy and threw him on the ground

because I didn't know if we were going to have a 'shoot-'em-up' in this area."

----CHARLES F. BREHM to Larry Sneed, "No More Silence," 1988 (3rd audible

muzzle blast or 3rd mechanically-suppress-fired bullet bow shockwave

distinctly AFTER President KENNEDY's head already exploded at Zf-313 = self-evident....

Recall that several witnesses stated there was a noticeably distinct,

additional shot after President KENNEDY's head first exploded, the closest of

which, riding about 12'/13' behind the president, was documented by limousine

escort DPD cyclist CHANEY on 11-22-63 in a recorded tv interview when he

stated that the president was hit in the face with the 2nd blast or shockwave

--of 3 total blasts/shockwaves that CHANEY remembered hearing. Concurrent with

CHANEY's 1st remembered blast/shockwave CHANEY stated he looked at the

president and saw the president look over his left shoulder--which is an

excellent description --keeping in mind CHANEY was behind the president-- of

Zf-190 to 207 when President KENNEDY's waving hand fingers suddenly straighten

out in a slightly curving salute, his waving arm starts to fall down and

leftward, and concurrently with that the president also very rapidly snaps his

head from facing almost 90 degrees right at the crowd (Zf-195), to facing

forward (Zf-207))

....A few of many additional detailed considerations....

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....Welcome back, Al....you may have seen the following posted

previously, so, for the benefit of those who have not, the following details

that a south TOP sourced trajectory is possible, but only if the trajectory

passed above the chromed windshield frame, and, only if it passed between the

pushed-up limo sunvisors (or through the windshield as DPD cyclist ELLIS

stated he saw at Parkland), and barely missed CONNALLY (according to the 11-22-63

White House garage limo photos that were...shown...to us; that were

presented to us...of the sunvisors, chrome windshield frame, and glass

windshield put into evidence)....

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"The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat

of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over

the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with

blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other

wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion

of the head."

"Yes, sir; I saw an opening in the back, about 6 inches below the neckline to

the right-hand side of the spinal column."

----CLINT HILL, Secret Service Agent, during his warrenatti testimony, 1964

Good Day All.... Can someone, Please, provide the Secret Service "Cadillac"

followup car dimensions and/or its scaled diagram?

The following professionally surveyed map is why I am asking for the SS car

details (on the map the SS car is colored gray.... this is not a finalized

professional survey, yet)....

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In this preliminary work, 3 of 5 theorized rear trajectories pass directly

over the SS car.

Interestingly (revealing to the point of debunking?) the warrenatti

theorized "lone nut" "snipers lair" trajectory passes directly over,

possibly directly into, where, very well, could have been two SS

agents (each headtop approximately 7' above the Elm Street pavement) on

its theorized trajectory to the approximately 3.5' to 4.5' President KENNEDY

theorized rear head impact.... hmmmmmmmm.... think about that....

From his cartoons that I have seen (but not purchased), I am starting

to understand Myers (deliberate?) choice to not include the SS

car/standing SS agents....

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"I turned around to find out what happened when two additional shots rang out

and the President slumped into Mrs. Kennedy's lap and Governor Connally fell

to Mrs. Connally's lap."

(KELLERMAN did not start his FIRST turn rearward until Zf-253/254)

----ROY KELLERMAN, Secret Service agent in Presidential limousine, Original Treasury dept. report 11/29/63, & WCR 18H724

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Local 10 At Secret Meeting With Anti-Castro Militant

Man Who Is Focus Of Fidel Castro's Fury Meets With Reporters

POSTED: 1:13 pm EDT May 17, 2005

UPDATED: 3:20 pm EDT May 17, 2005

MIAMI -- UPDATE: Luis Posada Carilles had a news conference scheduled today at 4:30 p.m. Sources said he went to a supporter's home to get some clothing, and while there, he was picked up by federal authorities. He is believed to be in the custody of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. Watch Local 10 News starting at 5 p.m for more on this developing story and refresh this page for updates.

While thousands of protesters fill the streets of Havana, Cuba, a handful of reporters in Miami, including Local 10's Rad Berky, got a secret, face-to-face meeting with the man who is the focus of the protests.

Cuba dictator Fidel Castro is leading demonstrations to condemn the United States for harboring Luis Posada Carriles.

Cuba and Venezuela are demanding the extradition of Posada, who is wanted in Venezuela on charges that he took part in the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people.

Tuesday, Berky got a rare look at 77-year-old Posada, who has been a mystery man since his clandestine arrival in Miami around the end of March.

Only a few reporters were allowed to attend the secret meeting. Berky was told to report to a strip mall in Hialeah early Tuesday morning. From there, the reporters were taken in individual cars to a dusty, hot, old warehouse. Sound equipment and cameras were taken from news crews and loaded into a pickup truck and driven separately to the location of the meeting. All the reporters had to agree to keep the location of the warehouse secret before they were allowed to see Posada.

After a brief wait, Posada was escorted into the Hialeah warehouse by a group of supporters. The anti-Castro militant spoke mostly in Spanish. He refused to answer questions about the hotel bombings he is accused of, but he did address the bombing of the plane.

"The act is an act of a terrorist, the act of downing a plane," Posada said. "I condemn that act. I had nothing to do with it."

This may be the last glimpse of Posada in the United States. He said he is reconsidering his request for asylum. He said because dissidents in Cuba are planning a protest next week, he may withdraw his application for asylum. Posada said he doesn't want to take attention away from that important demonstration. He also said he does not want to cause problems for the United States.

Posada claims he was once a CIA operative. The former Venezuelan security official has been bent on toppling Castro for 40 years.

Posada escaped from a Venezuelan prison in 1985 while facing a retrial in the Cubana Airlines bombing. Recently, Castro has been waging a nightly television campaign demanding Posada's arrest.

Posada entered the United States in spite of being on an immigration watch list. Local 10 has learned that he entered the country from Mexico through Brownsville, Texas. He said he took a bus to South Florida.

Posada said he fooled a couple of immigration officials along the way who could have arrested him.

To find out more about how Posada got into the United States, watch Local 10 News tonight at 6 p.m., and check back with Local10.com.

Previous Stories: (internet linked)

May 17, 2005: Cuban Militant Denies Role In Airliner Attack

May 10, 2005: Dead Man's Stories May Decide Militant's Asylum Request

May 6, 2005: Venezuela Backs Extradition Of Cuban Militant From Miami

April 21, 2005: Organizations Demand Cuban Militant's Arrest

April 13, 2005: Cuban Militant Requests Political Asylum

April 11, 2005: Anti-Castro Militant In Miami Says He Worked For CIA, Wants Asylum

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"There's other things involved that are that are detrimental to other things."

- REGIS BLAHUT, ex-C.I.A. Office of Security officer and liaison to the H.S.C.A., after he was fired from the C.I.A. in 1978, after he was caught having removed the autopsy photos of President KENNEDY from an HSCA safe even though he was never given authorization to access the autopsy photos.

Good Day All.... I have re-titled the ROSEMARY WILLIS headsnap discovery article to "Rosemary Willis Second Headsnap, West Towards the 'Grassy Knoll' "

Here is the link for everyone to a very clear animated crop of just ROSEMARY during the critical Z-frames she displays her headsnap towards the "grassy knoll"....

ROSEMARY WILLIS ULTRAFAST HEADSNAP WEST TOWARDS THE "grassy knoll" at Zf-214

and

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"To be courageous requires no exceptional qualifications. It is an opportunity that sooner or later is presented to us all."

----Senator JOHN F. KENNEDY, "Profiles in Courage" (1955)

Good Day.... Does anyone have the transcipt (or scan) of the November 1973 "Esquire" magazine article authored by RICHARD STOLLEY wherein STOLLEY, supposedly, wrote that ZAPRUDER told STOLLEY, (obviously sometime before ZAPRUDER‘s death in 1970.... perhaps even the same weekend as the assassination)

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My first impression was that the shots were coming from behind me.

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Which is almost the exact same gunfire source that United States Protective Research Section agent MAXWELL PHILLIPS documented at 9:55 pm Dallas time on 11-22-63 of where Mr. ZAPRUDER said in his gunfire source earliest statement (Warren Commission Document 87)....

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To: Chief Rowley 9:55 PM

From: Max D. Phillips

Subject: 8mm movie showing President

Kennedy being shot

Enclosed is an 8mm movie film

taken by Mr. A. Zapruder 501 Elm St., Dallas

Texas (R.I 8-6071)

Mr Zapruder was photographing

the President at the instant he was shot.

According to Mr Zapruder the position

of the assassin was behind Mr Zapruder.

Note: Disregard personal scenes

shown on Mr. Zapruder's film. Mr. Zapruder

is in custody of the "master" film. TWO print

were given to SAIC Sorrels, this date.

The third is forwarded.

<signed>

M. D. Phillips

Special Agent-PRS

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"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack and while still standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

Good Day.... The character assassination of President KENNEDY by most of the the media to, feebily, try and make us not care about his murder continues....

From a 5-10-05 “New York Times” article....

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Two Authors Ask About Kennedy's 'Ask Not' Speech

Late President's Famous Inaugural Address Scrutinized

By EDWARD WYATT, The New York Times

In an age when even a walk across the White House lawn can feel scripted, it is hard to imagine making a fuss over whether a speechwriter helped a president-elect compose his inaugural address. But when the president in question is John F. Kennedy, such questions never cease.

Recently two scholars examined the evidence around the authorship of Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address - poring over documents, interviewing still-living advisers - and came to opposite conclusions.

In "Ask Not: The Inauguration of John F. Kennedy and the Speech That Changed America," Thurston Clarke wrote last year that "important and heretofore overlooked documentary evidence" proves that Kennedy was "the author of the most immortal and poetic passages of his inaugural address," including the famous line that gives the book its title, "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."

But in "Sounding the Trumpet: The Making of John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address" (Ivan R. Dee), to be published in July, Richard J. Tofel, a lawyer and a former assistant publisher of The Wall Street Journal, concludes that "if we must identify" one man as the author of the speech, "that man must surely be not John Kennedy but Theodore Sorensen."

The question of whose hand held sway over the Kennedy inaugural address was an issue even before it was delivered, at least for Kennedy. Stung by accusations that a ghost writer was the real author of "Profiles in Courage," which won Kennedy the Pulitzer Prize in 1957, the president-elect went to great lengths to showcase his own involvement in the speech that has since become his most remembered.

The speech, which can be listened to at www.jfklibrary.org, is thought by many scholars to be among the finest inaugural addresses in the nation's history. With its declaration that "the torch has passed to a new generation of Americans," the speech also holds particular relevance for baby boomers, whose adulthoods were forged in the crucible of the 1960's.

For years, Mr. Sorensen, one of the men closest to Kennedy - he was a policy adviser, legal counsel and chief speechwriter - has steadfastly maintained that Kennedy was the driving force behind the speech.

"I'm of the very old school," Mr. Sorensen said in a telephone interview. "I've just simply refused to take credit when I didn't deserve the credit. That is not a philosophy that speechwriters of the last generation have necessarily followed."

Mr. Clarke, whose book was published by Henry Holt & Company, bases much of his conclusion around a key event in the preparation of the speech. On Jan. 10, 1961, during a flight from Washington to Palm Beach, Fla., Kennedy dictated portions of the speech to his secretary, Evelyn Lincoln. Both Mr. Clarke and Mr. Tofel note that in doing so, Kennedy consulted a draft of the address previously prepared by Mr. Sorensen.

Mr. Clarke states that "the Sorensen material that Kennedy incorporated into his speech turns out to be largely a compilation of ideas and themes that Kennedy had been voicing throughout his adult life." In Mr. Clarke's account, that makes Kennedy not only the architect of the speech, but "its stonecutter and mason, too."

Mr. Tofel's research - which, like Mr. Clarke's, painstakingly details the evolution of nearly every word in the address - causes him to conclude differently. "It is simply not correct to say, as a recent book did, that with the Kennedy dictation, the speech became 'in every important respect' Kennedy's own handiwork," he writes. While Kennedy certainly had ample input into the speech, he said, others, particularly Mr. Sorensen, had more.

"Of the 51 sentences in the inaugural address, John Kennedy might be said to have been the principal original author of no more than 14," Mr. Tofel writes. "And this number credits Kennedy with every sentence the origin of which is unclear.

"On direct evidence," he adds, including impromptu changes made during the delivery of the speech and a transcription of dictation taken by Kennedy's secretary on Jan. 10, "only nine sentences were principally originally Kennedy's. This compares with eight sentences from Adlai Stevenson."

The two authors do not disagree on everything, however. Both take note of the contributions of Mr. Stevenson (who they say had angled to be appointed secretary of state but who wound up as Kennedy's ambassador to the United Nations), as well as those of the economist John Kenneth Galbraith.

And neither disputes evidence unearthed by other Kennedy scholars long ago: that the provenance of the speech's most famous words, the "ask not" portion, has a less inspiring history.

The words hark back at least to Kennedy's years at Choate, the Connecticut prep school, where the headmaster regularly reminded his charges that what mattered most was "not what Choate does for you, but what you can do for Choate."

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"We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans--born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage--and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge--and more."

---- President JOHN F. KENNEDY, 20JAN61 Presidential inaugural address

Good Day.... What "Lady Bird" JOHNSON remembered hearing during the attack....

"It sounded like a shot. The sound seemed to me to come from a building

on the right above my shoulder.

A moment passed, and then two more shots rang out in rapid succession."

("A White House Diary" by "Lady Bird" JOHNSON, 1970)

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"How did it happen they ("they"?!!) hit Connally?"

- LBJ, despite the multitude of "lone nut" statements the previous 7 days, during a 29NOV63 phone conversation with his longtime friend, longtime neighbor, & soon-to-be-appointed-by-LBJ-"for-life" F.B.I. Director, JOHN EDGAR "Edna" HOOVER

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LIPSTICK DETECTIVES: The Texas Mafia Connection

#1 Bestseller gains attention of actors, agents, publishers,

independent film producers and movie studios in Hollywood.

by Heather White, The Hollywood Buzz

Texas author, Sydney Newman Dotson, has the attention of actors,

agents, publishers, independent film producers and movie studios in

Hollywood. Her first book, "No Greater Deception: A True Texas Story,"

of the Newman Family Trilogy is currently the #1 true crime

autobiography on the market. Paramount Pictures recently requested a

copy of Dotson's screenplay, LIPSTICK DETECTIVES: THE TEXAS MAFIA

CONNECTION, that's based on Dotson's family trilogy.

LIPSTICK DETECTIVES: THE TEXAS MAFIA CONNECTION takes place primarily

in Dallas, Galveston, Houston, and Longview and neighboring counties.

Dotson, a former IBM executive and corporate spy, and her sister, a CFO

at a space museum in Houston, are the main characters, and spy sisters

in this blockbuster bestseller.

Sydney Dotson Productions was formed to co-produce a film and follow-up

TV series based on Dotson's trilogy. Potential partners that have

indicated an interest in the project include Paramount Pictures, the

Maloof brothers (Insomnia Entertainment) and Dallas Mavericks owner

Mark Cuban, who also owns 2929 Entertainment, Magnolia Films, HDNet

Films, and a piece of Lion's Gate Films.

Tilman Fertitta of Landry's Restaurants, and Lorenzo Fertitta of

Station Casinos, have been invited to come onboard as co-producers as

well. Sylvester Stallone (Rocky) and Dixie Carter (Designing Women) are

considering playing New York mafia kingpin Joe Bonanno and Betty

Newman, the evil stepmother.

Actors and actresses who would like to play roles in this film project

heard about Dotson's book and endeavor to produce a film from Hollywood

insiders. The author's book, film treatment and screenplay film script

are being reviewed by a number of people in the film industry.

Dotson and her sister, the LIPSTICK DETECTIVES, have been hawking their

one-minute pitch and trilogy at several film festivals, including

Sundance, Tribeca and South by Southwest Film Conference (SXSW). They

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"It sounded like a shot. The sound seemed to me to come from a building

on the right above my shoulder.

A moment passed, and then two more shots rang out in rapid succession."

- "Lady Bird" Johnson, "A White House Diary" (1970)

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Good Day All.... Saw this auction on eBay and thought you may want to save the above photo.

Seller claims the LF photo has never been published and he/she still has the negative.

If you click on the photo after the eBay auction description, it opens into a separate link where the photo is even larger (same photo linked above).....

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"We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans--born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage--and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge--and more."

---- President JOHN F. KENNEDY, 20JAN61 inaugural address

Good Day James.... Thank You for providing that additional Dal-Tex photo looking southwestward down Elm.

Quick triangulation shows that photo was captured from the Dal-Tex south face, 4th vertical column of windows eastward from the DT southwest corner (I estimate 4th or 5th floor).

Your D.P.D. source sounds very interesting. Is there a chance of an interview and/or asking him to join us online?

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"We red marked ... red penciled that statement from beginning to end because there was a lot of errors in it."

---- SAM HOLLAND, attack witness standing on the TOP who heard 4 audible muzzle blasts and/or mechanically-suppress-fired bullet bow shockwaves and saw the "grassy knoll"-lingering gunsmoke, describing how he and his attorney corrected his warrenatti-testimony transcript because the transcript did not match what HOLLAND had actually said. (sound familiar?) The corrected transcript was not printed in the warrenatti canard, and is, so far, "unaccounted for" or "lost" (sound familiar?)

Good Day James.... Thank You for providing those photos. A quick triangulation of the camera with elements seen in the fuzzy DP backround indicates to me it was probably captured from the highest Dal-Tex floor, probably the southernmost west face window. Were did you find them? If they were captured by the D.P.D. then it seems to me that these photos *should be* in the D.P.D. archives.

*Somewhere* I have a photo taken from the Dal-Tex roofline, west face. I have been looking for it for quite a while and it is starting to look like it was on a computer I had that munched itself several years ago. *When* I find that view again I will definately provide it.

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"In contrast to the testimony of the witnesses who heard and observed shots fired from the Depository, the Commission’s investigation has disclosed no credible evidence that any shots were fired from anywhere else."

- warrenatti canard

Good Day Robin.... http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8651/dtroofcopiestsbd.gif

Over three decades ago, it was while reading the warrenatti-testimony of D.P.D. motorcyclist & presidential escort MARION LEWIS BAKER that first started me thinking about the considerations of a Dal-Tex roof line or high floor located assassin.

When BAKER was initially asked where he heard (or could hear) "his" remembered first audible muzzle blast (or "his" remembered first mechanically-suppress-fired bullet bow shock wave) shot origin, his very first answer was....

Right after stating that, the warrenatti-commisars and attorneys present for BAKER's testimony very quickly called "time out," and immediately huddled together for the first of five or six off-the-record "discussions" that took place during BAKER's warrenatti-testimony.

Of the 180 degrees of direct and peripheral vision and hearing in front of BAKER's eyes and helmet-covered ears at the point about 80' north of Main on Houston where BAKER stated he remembered hearing "his" first of 3 blasts and/or shock waves, the horizontal directional difference between a Dal-Tex roofline/high floor sourced "shot" and the warrenatti, supposed, "lone nut" high floor "snipers lair" was less than a 20 degrees. (if you extend your raised-to-horizontal arm in front of you with your fingers splayed apart to their widest, 20 degrees would be the approximate distance between your thumb and smallest finger)

As shown on my DP map that you referenced, the horizontal difference between a Dal-Tex roofline/high floor assassin stationed sourced "shot" trajectory and the warrenatti, supposed, "lone nut" high floor "snipers lair" sourced "shot" trajectory could have been less than 5 degrees to President KENNEDY from Zf-223 to 313.

An autopsy afterwards was inevitable.

The conspirators knew an autopsy was inevitable, so they actually tried to use that to their advantage.

Matching the angles as near as possible to the warrenatti, supposed, "lone nut" high floor "snipers lair" sourced "shot" trajectory with a Dal-Tex assassin would have been uppermost in the conspirators military minds. (even if HOOVER's micro-managed F.B.I. regime would be, predictably, forecast to ultimately become the main investigative agency)

I am still amazed that in the 1998 DP laser recreations that --as far as we were shown in the video documentary final, edited cut-- GRODEN did not have the limousine dummies rotated the very insignificant amount needed to also determine if there was a feasible laser trajectory to the Dal-Tex roofline. (GRODEN did have the dummies rotated 3 degrees ((if I recall the number correctly)) that showed a Dal-Tex second floor alignment for an SBT, but, the laser team did not (((nor did DALE MYERS))) decide/want to include any standing 6.5' to 7' above Elm Street Secret Service Agent replica dummies to replicate the Agents following close behind JFK)

BAKER had been on vacation and had gone hunting just a week prior to the attack, so, the warrenatti-commisars knew, full-well, the implications of BAKER's very first statement.

There are several additional considerations for the Dal-Tex, also.

Best Regards in Research

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Good Day Stephen.... Thank You.

I have received the following information....

"LIFE and TIME both published Zapruder frames on Tuesday, November 26, and released a frame sequence through the Associated Press."

....and....

"The 11-29-63 issue of LIFE magazine was on the newsstands by Tuesday, 11-26, and in subscriber's mailboxes the next day. Among the 28 frames in that issue, LIFE released six to the news media that week and they started appearing no later than 11-30." (covered in Trask's book "Pictures of the Pain," who also has a book coming out this year about the ZAPRUDER film)

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"According to Mr Zapruder the position of the assassin was behind Mr Zapruder."

- earliest public statement by ABRAHAM ZAPRUDER of from where he sensed that, at least, one shot was fired from, as documented in Warren Commission Document CD87, a 22NOV63, 9:55 pm note from PRS agent MAXWELL PHILLIPS that accompanied 3 copies of the ZAPRUDER film ("behind" ZAPRUDER's facing direction up to Zf-321 was the north picket fenceline easternmost corner on the north "grassy knoll")

Good Day John.... IMHO, the primary motives were money, and, to prevent LBJ's imminent scandals/mafia-ties investigations/prosecutions/imprisionment (in the rhelm of "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction," LBJ simultaneously thirsted to retain and increase his self-centered/self-consuming power).... money and power, not necessarily in that order, and, not necessarily seperate from each other.

Revenge aganst President KENNEDY for his Bay of Pigs inactions (as perceived & portrayed by the far-rightist and anti-Castrolites), and his Cuban missile crisis main decision to not invade Cuba (a very wise decision as documentions show that Russian missile site commanders in Cuba had been given individual authority to decide if and when to explode their nuclear weapons against any combatants), and KENNEDY mafia prosecutions increasing 11-fold since only 1961 (despite the mafia-perceived POTUS election help for KENNEDY in 1960) were two of several other sub-motives. The mega-wealthy oil barons also did not not bewail for a single second the fact that their 27.5% per year oil-depletion tax credit allowance was not ended as President KENNEDY had spoke of wanting to do. (it was ended very shortly after LBJ left office).

The defense industry buildup -of which the C.I.A. was/is a part- --and the #1 dollar$-wise export industry in the United States for decades-- (again, mostly money-related, but also political-will power-motivated as a mostly rightists (and including centrists and leftists) beliefs to stand up to Communism anywhere and everywhere) for confrontation/war against the Communists aggressions in southeast Asia had been on-going since the French left in the mid-50's (defense industry dollars had declined/leveled-off after WWII) ---there is strong evidence that in mid-to-late 1963 President KENNEDY had changed his thinking about southeast Asia (and Cuba/CASTRO confrontations/assassination attempts) and wanted to lessen/end military/C.I.A. involvement by the end of his second term.

Lest we not forget, scumbaggius-maximus J. "Edna" HOOVER was facing a mandatory retirement very early in President KENNEDY's second term.... only a few days after HOOVER first testified to the warrenatti commisars, none other than HOOVER's 22NOV63-neighbor, longtime friend/ally/crony LBJ made HOOVER (gave as payback, more like, imho) the "Director of F.B.I. for Life."

etc.

Motives galore.... you betcha'

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"From a moral standpoint, Johnson had no use for religion except for the political benefits that it bestowed upon him. He had no use for the sanctity of marriage except for the voting benefits it offered to him as a 'married man.' And, his desire for alcohol, just like with sex, was excessive. In short, moral rules relating to his personal conduct had no effect on stopping him from getting what he wanted."

----CRAIG ZIRBEL, summarizing LBJ's amoral characteristics that may have contributed, along with 4 on-going criminal investigations implicating LBJ, to LBJ's motivations for wanting President KENNEDY assassinated, "The Texas Connection" (pg.108)

Welcome aboard, Mel.

What is your chosen profession(s), and your qualifications/achievements?

Have you been to Dealey Plaza? (most recent time?)

How many of the DP witnesses have you ever interviewed? (which specific witnesses, if any?)....I recently found out, from .John McAdams himself, no less, that he has interviewed, exactly, only 2 assassination witnesses (JACK & JOAN FRANZEN in one, simultaneous, interview, of which I have a video copy of the interview, and its...line of questioning)

What is your scientific reasoning with regards to the 6.5mm, nearly round, object never testified to by HUMES (nor anyone else) in 1964 (even though this 6.5 mm object was exceedingly larger than the head frags HUMES et al did testify to in 1964), yet, that same conveniently-sized 6.5 mm object was first blatantly reported about as being seen by similarly-or-better-qualified professionals on the xrays, but many years later? If you think this 6.5 mm object on the outer table of the skull is a bullet frag, what are the physics chain-of-events that you believe sheared-off, then, embedded a 1800-2000 f.p.s., copper, military-specifications-jacketed, non-frangible bullet fragment onto the outside table of the skull, and, above the skull wound? (do you subscribe to the warrenatti rear head entrance point, or, the HSCA rear impact location?)

Have to say.... IMHO, I admire a person for being "stand up" to come here with contrarian views and "face the music," so to speak (even if his views presented, so far, are very broad, generalizations, rationalizations, and mixed with several personal o-pines).... A few words for the wise,

--for everyone, that is-- imho, emotions-particularly anger- is (for the most part) a life-forward-imobilizing emotion, and, especially, with respect to this case, should be left out of discussions by The Knowledgeable for the progress of The Truth to The People to be, truly, achieved. If I may take a moment, Mel, for a straightforward thought of advice.... Please, leave any mo-rahn-ic, over-arrogant, blatant-dodging/lies not supported by the evidence, etc. attitudes outside the forum log-in door. (you are aware that the entire NAA validity of chemical comparative analysis of bullet fragments is currently, seriously, being called into question --and has been thrown-out or disallowed for evidence entering by the judicial courts, right?)

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"A red-brown to black area of skin surrounds the wound, forming what is called an abrasion collar. It was caused by the bullet's scraping the margins of the skin on penetration and is characteristic of a gunshot wound of entrance. The abrasion collar is larger at the lower margin of the wound, evidence that the bullet's trajectory at the instant of penetration was slightly upward in relation to the body."

---- 7HSCA175 describing President KENNEDY's, theorized, not-completely-probed, neck and back wounds

Good Day.... I am looking at a 29NOV63 "Chicago Daily News" newspaper that shows a circa Zf-350 cropped frame from the ZAPRUDER film at the very top of the front page. (the accompanying article is entitled, "Jackie's Agony")

Is 29NOV63 the first day that Z-film frame(s) appeared in any newspapers, or, did that occur earlier than 29NOV63? Thank You.

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"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack and while still standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

Good Day All.... I have updated the original article with an additional photo and additional internet links.

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"We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans--born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage--and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge--and more."

---- President JOHN F. KENNEDY, 20JAN61 inaugural address

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Stillwater native writing book about secret world of Kennedy-era CIA

By KRIS JANISCH

STILLWATER — When Stillwater native Brad Ayers was in the Army during the early 1960s, he got a call beckoning him to the White House for a volunteer assignment he knew nothing about.

He would soon learn, however, that he would be training CIA agents and exiled Cubans for covert missions to disrupt the stability of the post-Bay of Pigs Cuban government.

Working in a secret facility outside Miami, under the codename Zenith Technical Enterprises, Ayers was a key figure in what he called the CIA’s “clandestine war” against communist Cuba.

Making connections that ranged from Robert Kennedy to Mafia hitmen, Ayers gained a knowledge of the U.S. government’s underbelly that has given him insight into the “darker” realms of American policy toward Cuba in the ’60s.

He was chosen to lead this team of covert operatives because he “had the skills that would be useful” in training individuals for dangerous commando missions into the island 90 miles off the Florida coast.

After a book he wrote in 1976 about his experiences was heavily edited and scrubbed by the government of its more provocative stories, Ayers is once again writing — but this effort will include all the “spicy” details omitted almost 30 years ago.

Ayers, 70, recently signed a deal to write two books — the first will recount his life working with the CIA and his ideas about the assassinations of both John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy.

“The Zenith Secret” will tell of Ayers’ thoughts on the CIA’s involvement in plots to assassinate the Kennedys, civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr., and Fidel Castro.

His experience in writing started in Stillwater, when in 1951 he was asked to cover sports for the Gazette while still in high school.

Still feeling “very much part of the community,” Ayers has run in the Lumberjack Days race 28 times and has children living in neighboring communities.

“I grew up in Stillwater — it’s still my home town,” he said.

Ayers, a former Army Ranger and paramilitary expert, has spent much of the past 10 years researching people and places, trying to put together a complete picture of the events surrounding the Kennedy assassinations.

However, many of those involved with the events have since died, several under “questionable causes,” Ayers said.

As a known gadfly in the ointment of government agencies, Ayers has had problems dealing with the federal government, having his cabin home in Frederick, Wis., searched and his manuscripts inspected by government officials.

“I brought a lot of heat upon myself, I can tell you that,” he said. “Subtle harassment ... questioning my patriotism.”

By cooperating with media outlets and going public with his story, Ayers said he “bought myself some life insurance.”

As a licensed private investigator in Florida and Arizona, Ayers has been putting together a “compilation of facts submitted in journalistic form” for “The Zenith Secret.”

The hardest part of writing the book has been “bridging” his own experiences with the CIA — where his group’s actions were under the supervision of Robert Kennedy — with his subsequent research.

Ayers’ second book — which like “The Zenith Secret” will be printed by VOX Publishing — will focus on America’s War on Drugs in the 1980s and is dubbed “Out of Pocket — Rotten Deals.”

“The Zenith Secret” is scheduled to be released in the fall and “Out of Pocket — Rotten Deals” will be distributed next year.

Seemingly far removed from the “seaborne commando” missions into Cuba during the 1960s, Ayers keeps busy at his typewriter, producing page after page of the “black operations” he was involved in and the CIA’s involvement in high-profile assassinations.

A section of the prologue to his book reads as follows:

“I was one of the men selected to perform this top-secret mission. What follows is an account of my experiences with the CIA and the aftermath, including my diligent pursuit of truth as a contribution to the complete and accurate history of our time.”

• • • •

Kris Janisch covers Washington County and the cities of Stillwater and Bayport for the Gazette. He can be reached by phone at 651-796-1111.

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"The people will recognize that the CIA was behaving during those years like a rogue elephant rampaging out of control . . ."

---- Senator FRANK CHURCH, Chairman of Select Committee on Intelligence, July 1975

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Anti-Castro icon hires Miami attorney

Miami, FL, Apr. 1 (UPI) -- A Miami attorney hired to seek political asylum for a man considered by many as an icon of the anti-Castro movement says he expects a tough battle.

Luis Posada Carriles, 77, is believed hiding in south Florida while his attorney, Eduardo Soto, negotiates with the Department of Homeland Security, The Miami Herald reported Friday.

Posada is wanted in Venezuela and Cuba as a terrorism suspect.

He is charged in Venezuela with the bombing of a Cubana Airlines plane that took 73 lives in 1976. He was jailed awaiting trial but later escaped.

Cuba wants him for a number of incidents including a series of bombings of tourism facilities in 1997, but most specifically for an assassination attempt on Cuban President Fidel Castro in 2000.

Posada was arrested in Panama for the assassination attempt during a Castro visit to Panama City, but later was pardoned by the outgoing Panamanian president.

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"The people will recognize that the CIA was behaving during those years like a rogue elephant rampaging out of control . . ."

---- Senator FRANK CHURCH, Chairman of Select Committee on Intelligence, July 1975

Tim,

Just an observation - did Hemming specifically mention which window?  I just watched an old Castle Films production on Kennedy - 8mm.  There are only 2 windows that are only partly open - the east window, and the third from the right at the West. 

- lee

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Good Day Lee.... Counting the windows westward, starting from the farthest east, warrenatti-apologists, supposed, "lone nut" "snipers lair" #1 window was 22.1% open, and in the photographic evidences captured right after the attack, the TSBD south face, five farthest west, sixth floor windows were each open approximately....

#10 = 50%

#11 = 15%

#12 = 20%

#13 = 50% (ROWLAND saw armed man standing a few feet back

from at 12:15 pm, and, DILLARD photo 25-30 seconds after attack

shows a man in, looking outward and seemingly downward)

#14 = 50% open (lower window sash)

Due to each window unit actually consisting of two separate framed window sashes (an upper and the lower sash), the maximum any one, entire, window unit could be considered "open" is 50%.

On the TSBD fifth floor, the south face windows (again, numbering the windows from east to west), the open windows were #1, #2, (the "5th floor gang" of NORMAN, JARMAN, WILLIAMS were in window #'s 1 & 2) #4, #5, #10, and #14.

Additionally, on the fifth floor west face (which also afforded a theoretical snipers firing trajectory into the killing zone at President KENNEDY from about his Zf-185 street location onward, but, we would have to also factor in the heigth of the two oak trees west of the "magic-limbed-ricochet tree" and immediately south of the TSBD south face) the two farthest south windows were also open. The same views/theoretical trajectories would apply to the west face, sixth floor, farthest south window that was open.

TSBD fourth floor, south face open windows were #6 (DORMAN filmed from) and #11. (again, the heigth of oak trees immediately south of the TSBD south face might have been views/trajectories obstructing factors)

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"I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say 'no, I think it was further down the street.' "

-TSBD employee/attack witness JERALDEAN "Carolyn" REID, who stood directly in front of the warrenatti, supposed, "snipers lair," in her earliest 11-23-63 DPD affidavit (CE2003, 24H223)

Good Day Robin.... In addition to the "88a.jpg" linked drawing, that HSCA section also shows the exact page 175, paragraph 465 that I secured the quote from....

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk..._Vol7_0093a.gif

....and the additional bullet/skin impact drawing examples....

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Dr. DONALD THOMAS during his NID-2001 presentation, "Hear No Evil":

The x-ray of the President's head taken at the autopsy revealed a metal fragment on the outside of the cranium located 10 cm dorsad of the occipital protuberance. The scalp wound in apposition to this piece of metal was described in the autopsy facing sheet (07HSCA253) as "ragged, slanting" with an arrow indicating an upward trajectory. Dr. RUSSELL FISHER, the chairman of the forensic pathology panel appointed by Attorney General RAMSEY CLARK to review the autopsy materials concluded that the piece of metal was, "...most likely a ricochet fragment" (interview in Menninger pp. 64-66).

I am not a forensic pathologist, but Dr. FISHER's expert diagnosis meshes well with the filmed evidence of the President's reaction, the accounts of the eyewitnesses, and explains the ragged nature of the scalp wound. Or, we may choose to rely on the HSCA Forensic Pathology panel's expertise on how this piece of metal came to be lodged on the outside of the President's skull. The Warren Commission's doctors elected not to report this piece of metal in their autopsy protocol. The forensic pathology panel met with the Chief Prosector, JAMES HUMES, and asked him about the fragment and scalp lesion. Transcripts of the panel's discussion elicited the following opinion from Dr. GEORGE LOQUVAM:

COE: The reason we are so interested in this, Dr. Humes, is because other pathologists have interpreted the...

LOQUVAM (whispering in the background): I don't think this belongs in the damn record.

COE: Ahhh, it probably doesn't.

LOQUVAM: You guys are nuts. You guys are nuts writing this stuff. It doesn't belong in the damn record. (07HSCA255)

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Surgeon who tried to save JFK dies at 75

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

DALLAS -- Dr. Charles R. Baxter, one of the surgeons who tried to save President John F. Kennedy after he was shot, has died, a colleague said. He was 75.

The surgeon died Thursday of pneumonia at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, where he had been professor emeritus of surgery since 1993, said Dr. Robert Rege, chairman of surgery.

Baxter was the emergency room director at Parkland Memorial Hospital, where Kennedy was taken after being shot by Lee Harvey Oswald on Nov. 22, 1963.

"As soon as we realized we had nothing medical to do, we all backed off from the man with a reverence that one has for one's president," Baxter said in 1988. "And we did not continue to be doctors from that point on. We became citizens again, and there were probably more tears shed in that room than in the surrounding hundred miles."

Baxter then operated on Texas Gov. John Connally, who was seriously wounded by Oswald.

Baxter also developed a formula for burn patients. He discovered that patients with large, severe burns need tremendous amounts of the fluid the first day of treatment, especially during the first eight hours of their ordeal. He also also founded a tissue bank at Parkland hospital to provide skin grafts for burn patients.

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"A red-brown to black area of skin surrounds the wound, forming what is called an abrasion collar. It was caused by the bullet's scraping the margins of the skin on penetration and is characteristic of a gunshot wound of entrance. The abrasion collar is larger at the lower margin of the wound, evidence that the bullet's trajectory at the instant of penetration was slightly upward in relation to the body."

- 07HSCA175 describing President KENNEDY's, theorized, not-completely-probed, neck and back wounds

Good Day.... The full court opinion is available at....

http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/opinions/a2062-03.pdf

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Bullet IDs Slammed As Bad Science

WASHINGTON, March 8, 2005

An FBI crime lab technique used for decades to match bullets to crimes - and relied on by prosecutors in hundreds of criminal trials - is based on "erroneous scientific foundations," a New Jersey appeals court has ruled.

In a decision Monday overturning a 1997 murder conviction, the court said Michael S. Behn deserves a new trial because expert testimony based on the FBI technique was central to his conviction.

"The integrity of the criminal justice system is ill-served by allowing a conviction based on evidence of this quality, whether described as false, unproven or unreliable, to stand," the judges said.

The ruling is believed to be the first to overturn a conviction based on a challenge to the FBI analysis of the lead content of bullets since the National Academy of Sciences last year raised new questions about the technique.

FBI Lab Director Dwight Adams asked for the academy study in 2003 after a retired bureau metallurgist began questioning the validity of the science that matches bullets by comparing the chemical composition of their lead content. The academy, chartered by Congress and privately run, is widely respected.

The FBI request came as the Associated Press reported the retired metallurgist's findings based on his own research into the science behind the lead bullet analysis. The AP also disclosed that an FBI scientist had admitted giving false testimony about lead bullet analysis in a Kentucky case.

Adams has estimated that the technique has been used in about 2,500 cases since 1980 and has been mentioned in court testimony about 500 times since then.

Barry Scheck, president of the National Association of Defense Lawyers, said the ruling will probably be followed by similar challenges in other courts.

"There's no question since the National Academy of Science report that testimony pursuant to CBLA (chemical bullet lead analysis) is unreliable," said Scheck, who is a founder of The Innocence Project, a legal team at Benjamin Cardozo Law School at Yeshiva University in New York which uses DNA evidence to clear wrongly convicted individuals.

The bullet analysis technique in question, says Sheck, can't be used "for any probative evidentiary purpose. In many of these cases, people been wrongly convicted."

One of the nation's most prominent defense lawyers, Scheck's past clients include O.J. Simpson and Abner Louima.

In the New Jersey case that sparked Monday's court ruling, William Tobin, the retired FBI metallurgist who first questioned the technique, submitted a sworn statement that resulted in a new trial for Behn, who was sentenced to life in prison after his 1997 conviction in the shooting death of a coin dealer.

The FBI is the only law enforcement agency that analyzes the metal content of bullets. It is done when bullet fragments are too small or damaged to compare the marks left on the slug by the barrel of the firearm. The goal is to determine if the bullet from the crime matches other bullets found in the suspect's possession or weapon.

In a technique known as chaining, researchers compare the amounts of trace elements in a series of bullets. If they find that bullet A is like bullet B and B is like C and C is like D and so on, they then conclude that A is the same as E because they are part of the same chain.

In the New Jersey case, the appellate court said the FBI analysis that used chaining to link bullets found at Behn's residence with those used in the killing was the only expert testimony in the circumstantial case that was not countered by the Behn's lawyers during his trial.

"We conclude that the expert testimony was based on erroneous scientific foundations," the court said.

Behn's lawyer had asked the appeals court to order a new hearing on the evidence challenging the FBI analysis. But the court went a step further, reversing his conviction and ordering a new trial.

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"A red-brown to black area of skin surrounds the wound, forming what is called an abrasion collar. It was caused by the bullet's scraping the margins of the skin on penetration and is characteristic of a gunshot wound of entrance. The abrasion collar is larger at the lower margin of the wound, evidence that the bullet's trajectory at the instant of penetration was slightly upward in relation to the body."

- 07HSCA175 describing President KENNEDY's, theorized, not-completely-probed, neck and back wounds

Good Day Robin.... for the reference.

Within my public JFK assassination file here....

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....is freely available for all the exact same-scaled Dealey Plaza map, but without the three followup diagrams & chart that the DP.jpg link contains; which is also less than half the bytes size, & therefore will load faster for you....

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....and a blank, basically informationless, Dealey Plaza map (still detailing President KENNEDY's street position) that you can also save to your computer, and edit your own considerations onto....

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....All comments and critiques are always welcomed. All referenced information will be considered for inclusion on the DP.jpg and DPonly.gif maps. Feel free to bookmark them in your favorites file and check back periodically as I usually update them, at least, monthly with new information.

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"A red-brown to black area of skin surrounds the wound, forming what is called an abrasion collar. It was caused by the bullet's scraping the margins of the skin on penetration and is characteristic of a gunshot wound of entrance. The abrasion collar is larger at the lower margin of the wound, evidence that the bullet's trajectory at the instant of penetration was slightly upward in relation to the body."

- 07HSCA175 describing President KENNEDY's, theorized, not-completely-probed, neck and back wounds

Good Day.... With respect to the 23JAN63 group photo that appears on the book cover of "Barry and the Boyz," it reads like, FWIW, that the recent "Granma" article here (about 3/4th's into the article)....

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2005/marzo/mar8/11mexico.html

takes a stab at identifying the men seen in that same photo....

A photo of the Cuban American mafia from Miami, taken at a cabaret in Mexico in 1963. All are connected to terrorist attacks on Cuba. On the left, at the bottom towards the back and leaning on the table, Juan Restoy, a former political leader from Batista’s regime, turned drug trafficker and caught by the FBI in the 70’s. Félix Rodríguez Mendigutía, a CIA agent of Cuban origin implicated in the Coca-Contra scandal, who ordered the death of Ernesto Che Guevara in Bolivia, in October, 1967; drug trafficker Barry Seal; Guillermo and Ignacio Novo Sampol, leaders of the CORU terrorist group, responsible for CANF’s paramilitary activities. On the right, at the bottom towards the back, William Seymour, linked to Kennedy’s assassination; Frank Sturgis, CIA agent and Watergate "burglar"; drug trafficker Felipe de Diego; Mafioso Richard Cain and according to several experts, Porter Goss…the current head of the CIA! Sturgis also participated in the failed invasion of Playa Girón, in Cuba and afterwards was recruited by a CIA agent named George H.W. Bush. Right before his death, he confessed to having participated in J.F. Kennedy’s assassination. The Novo brothers participated in the assassination of former Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier and his colleague Ronni Moffit in Washington.

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"There's other things involved that are detrimental to other things."

- REGIS BLAHUT, ex-C.I.A. Office of Security officer and liaison to the H.S.C.A., after he was fired from the C.I.A. in 1978, after he was caught having removed the autopsy photos of President KENNEDY from an HSCA safe even though he was never given authorization to access the autopsy photos.