Martin Hinrichs

Thanks Martin / Duncan.

We all need to be peer reviewed, to keep us honest.

As you would know martin, i have never had a problem admitting i have made a mistake in my analysis.

I just need to be presented with "clear evidence" so that i can make an informed judgement

My error was in trying to see the "Full picture" while only concentrating on one frame !

Robin.

I thank you Robin for your honesty...as always.

And yes, it's right to be peer reviewed to keep on track.

Many just don't have the ability and the balls to admit anything.

And yes, when you encounter their biased minds too often it's a strenght to

put them on an "Ignore List".

best to you my friend

Martin

No offence taken,Martin, I agree with you.

In fact, I posted the simple analysis below a couple of months ago in response to Harris, who said that JFK'S head was showing a massive blown out in the frame which he posted, That is what I objected to. It is clear to me at least, that the skull is indented inwards and not outwards as Harris insists.

Thank you for honesty and integrity Duncan.

Values of this are rare here.

I hope this won't be persecuted by Bob Harris next.

What you did is a strenght and not a weakness.

I've never seen Bob admitted anything of his flaws.

Edit for correction, i don't believe it's a flaw from your side.

You just havent seen this stable GIF before.

I will do also that kind of GIF with the bullet impact at around Z313.

That will show that JFK was also shot from behind.

I just let the chips fall as they are no matter how it turn out.

Thats always my motto.

best to you

Martin

I understand it's very difficult to find the damaged shape of JFK's head in one frame no matter how

good the quality is with the available material but once you've watched a stable animated GIF from

this horribly sequence it becomes easier i think.

So, please don't feel offended here Robin and Duncan but Robert Harris second point is valid.

The Top of JFK's Skull was seriously damaged after he was shot in the head.

(Hell, til today i've trouble to work on that appaling Zapruder frames even i should be insensitive now somehow)

At first here a composition i made once ago.

And finally the stable sequence of Zapruder frames 327-337.

Parts of the top of the skull was gone when you following the sequence.

It's easier to distinguish between background and JFK's head.

Jackies black collar is of help here.

To Robert:

Is it possible to behave yourself?

You've been put under moderation for a week currently after a short time you are here.

Now your postings must be edited from wise moderators while you insulted Robin Unger who is propably the

most peaceful and well known researcher in the JFK Assassination research.

You saw down the branch you are sitting on with that kind of comments.

Martin

John Hunt posted once photographs taken for the NARA in the presence of Doug Horne taken by Boswell.

His recollection shows the damage JFK's Skull suffered at.

Here the GIF which shows in orange the damaged areas.

It supports the following autopsy photos showing JFK's head viewed from the Top.

Sisco scan showing jackies left collar in sunlight and her right collar in shadow.

also showing kennedy's suit, the left side is in sunlight and his right side is in shadow.

Click on thumbnail to view full size.

Hi my friend

Here is Zapruder frame 323 showing Jackies black collar lit with sun (grey) and also in shadow (black).

This frames are fom "JFK the Movie". The best source for particular closeups of the Zapruder film i've ever encountered.

Thank you for this hint Robin.

Very nice Bell GIF Martin

I see two things, the man in the white shirt appears to be waving to the motorcade below.

and just to the right of this man is a man in dark clothing who shifts his position right to left so as to get a better look at the cars below.

Thank you Robin.

Yes, the man with the dark clothing i meant too. Not sure about the man with white clothes..maybe the blur. Not sure.

Here a version stabled with the focus on the Queen Mary.

Looking at Hickey, it appears to me he is looking up to the Triple underpass, pointed with something up (maybe his arm)

and very quickly looked back.

best

Martin

Jim, Where can we see the Lancer presentations? Are you going to post your Lancer presentaion on line?

What else was said at Lancer of signifiacne?

Was Zavada there? If so, what did he say?

BK

Lately i listen from time to time Black Op Radio hosted by Len Osanic.

Here is Jim talking about it, Bill:

http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2010.html

Click on:

Play Part Two Interview - Jim DiEugenio

•Oliver Stone

•Lancer 2010 Conference summery

•Listener questions answered

Jim, it was a good idea to go to Lee Bowers Tower. What a view, isn't it?

best

Martin

Awesome GIF Martin.

That is as clear as it gets.

I know that must have taken you a couple of hours to put together.

Much appreciated.

Robin.

Thank you Robin

Here is a crop from the area atop of the Triple underpass.

I recognize motion only from one person there. The others were pretty motionless.

I hoped to catch Officer White on the west side of the TU without success. Nor do i see him in the McIntyre photo.

He is a stranger to me. Nor did he heard a shot but was the only one who had seen a train moving while the motorcade

approached, which had blocked his view ?¿

Todd, that possible.

All the best

Martin

Martin.

I saved about 80-frames but many of them have such "motion blur" that they are unusable

I have just "Uploaded" about 13-of the sharpest and clearest frames to my gallery.

you may find them usefull for a study.

Bell Frame showing what appears to be "Clint Hill" standing on the back of the Limo ?

Thanks Robin.

Want to come back to initial idea of the Topic.

Here some 50 frames stable.

The monstrous challenge of this stable process was to get rid of the forth and back rotation in each frame of

this Bell film sequence.

Give it a while to load cause it is over 8 MB.

I'll do some nice blowup crops next cause the original is double sized

Also a "Queen Mary stable version" will be done.

best

Martin

FWIW, this is one of the pictures that destroys Thomas' argument McClain was at the corner at frame 175. Although McClain supposedly raced to the corner, here he is 150 feet or so down the road, riding by Courson, who was far behind him BEFORE he supposedly started racing. This leads Thomas to conclude McClain raced to the corner before the shots were fired and then slowed to a crawl afterward. Bunkum.

Hi Pat, i'am not arguing the acoustic evidence from Myers and have not read Thomas book

but while you are at it, yes your point makes sense and this alleged race and slow game from McLain makes little.

Do not forget the Dorman frame showing a motorcyclist close the CC3 and congress car1+2. It shows A ) McLain or B ) Haygood.

If Haygood was the one, he would have made the same alleged race that allegedly McLain did according to Thomas.

Little sense + Little sense= No sense.

I just want to know how Thomas come to the conclusion why he believed Haygood is the one in Dorman.

I'am puzzled.

best

Martin

Haygood in Skaggs Slide # 8 ( Credit: 6th Floor Museum )

Cheers Robin.

Haygood on top of the Triple Underpass.

Clearly showing his black gloves.

I would like to show a close up of McLain (show him with black gloves and sunglasses) in Myers new Acustic Report

but Myers strictly forbids anyone to publish anything of his report without special permission.

Martin

Hi Robin

Good work.

Not sure if this of interest:

Skaggs6 showing the second press bus has in the foreground either Officer Smart or Dale.

Trask says most likely R. Smart. It's taken at almost the same time as Bond7.

This photo of Main Street is showing in the foreground three motorcycles.

Left: J.B. Garrick, Middle: S.G. Bellah, Right: Glen McBride (who is also seen on Moorman3)

Credit Six Floor Museum.

I recalled Trask mentioned their names from my Moorman3 study and found their names on pg233 in POTP.

best to you

Martin

Who are these two Motorcycle Cops seen in Cancellare. ?

Do they stop and dismount there bikes, or do they continue through the underpass. ?

Hi Robin

That would be Haygood (on the right and he stopped running up the incline to be observered by Bowers wrongly to be on his cycle)

[you know Bowers said he rode up the embankment].

and Courson how drove away.

Martin

Nope, neither is Haygood.

McLain on the left, Courson on the right.

that's not Hayggod

Todd, i corrected my mistake already in Post#47 just in case you mised it.

So, you are right, it's not Haygood at all.

But here is Haygood Robin, filmed by Wiegman. We can see him from the front wearing dark sunglasses and black gloves (you would see his naked hands if he had not, like Officer Martin). Officer McLain wore also dark sunglasses and black gloves.

Haygood was riding close to the first Press bus in the motorcade while McLain was 4-5 cars ahead of him.

Thats maybe where the dispute of Myers and Thomas is coming from.

Credit to you Robin.

Also visible is camera car 1 and camera car 2 in the background.

By the way Todd, can you see Rosemary Willis in this Wiegman frames?

Me not.

She apparently left her position and went back to her dad or was indeed the young lady we can see in Couch which you

had denied so vehemently. Remember?

best

Martin

Who are these two Motorcycle Cops seen in Cancellare. ?

Do they stop and dismount there bikes, or do they continue through the underpass. ?

Hi Robin

Edit for correction: That would be McLain and Courson how both drove away.

Martin

Is this Jackson seen to the rear of the follow up car in Betzner 3 just under the R.L.Thornton sign

Robin, when i look closely at Zapruder frame 186 it appears that Chaney is hidden behind (standing SS Agents) Landis and Ready

from Betzners POV.

So, yes it must be Jackson.

Martin

Martin.

I assume your red line ( red light ) is to show the Jackson motorcycle.

Yes Robin, my mistake.

Thanks for the correction

Exellent Martin.

Nice Job

That's exactly what i had in mind.

Using the 4th floor view as a template for your overlays is a very good idea, same angle,height,and view as Elsie's

Cheers.

Robin.

Thank you Robin.

It was exhaustive.

I feel you pain Martin.

It can be brain drainig doing overlays and stabilized GIFS

I have "Uploaded" both images to my galleries Credited : to you

Thanks a lot mate. At some point i will declare in detail why the positions of the vehicles are where i have placed them.

I've seen you uploaded it. That makes the efforts worthwhile.

About Chaney in Zapruder. He is too far too north and almost never visible, but i catched parts of his motorcycle:

best to you

Martin

Exellent Martin.

Nice Job

That's exactly what i had in mind.

Using the 4th floor view as a template for your overlays is a very good idea, same angle,height,and view as Elsie's

Cheers.

Robin.

Thank you Robin.

It was exhaustive.

Robin ; here are a few more, some oddities, Haygood checking out the sewer drain on elm was from research that greg burnham,has posted on his site, the one with a h.initials was done by alan healy, thanks fellas,they may be of some help...the.haygood is by walt rollins...i was going to post the schematics, thanks robin..for doing so...best..b

Thanks a lot Bernice fo all theses nice images.

It can't be all correct. Let us call it work in progress.

My dear sincerely Lady

Martin

You might take a look at here. That was really hard:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16757&st=135

best to you my friend

Martin

Mate,

Hargis was up the knoll Robin. He ran up there, examined it some seconds. Call him Knoll Hargis now.

Haygood was the the incline guy. He ran up the incline or call it the embankment.

McLain is the Officer with the alleged radio.

Baker in the TSBD.

To give them names helps. Courson is just a drive through for instance.

Wishing well

Martin

Who are these two Motorcycle Cops seen in Cancellare. ?

Do they stop and dismount there bikes, or do they continue through the underpass. ?

Hi Robin

That would be Haygood (on the right and he stopped running up the incline to be observered by Bowers wrongly to be on his cycle)

[you know Bowers said he rode up the embankment].

and Courson how drove away.

Martin

Thanks Martin.

So this Atkins frame showing Weigman running would be just after Cancellare1 and the Wiegman frame showing the limo entering the underpass.

I assume this is Haygood on the right of the image, and Courson has continued through the underpass.

Yes Haygood slowed down seriously. His speed is not comparable to the others. Your questions are not easy to digest in that short

time. I will review all.

Which Cop is this seen in Bothun. ?

Thats Officer Hargis who examined the grassy knoll for a moment( who was splattered with blood) and stopped briefly my friend.

That moment shows how he sped up again after his stop.

Cheers.

Thanks Martin.

Considering his description of the blood that hit him, his front fender ,visor,face, and helmet, all seem to be remarkably clean.

Click on thumbnail to view full size:

Thats true Robin. I can't see anything too. Did he made up a story or don't we see it in this old photogaphs?

Who are the 3-Motorcycle Cops seen in Bond 4 ?

Martin.

A number of collages made up, "using photos showing each individual motorcycle Cop" in the various images they appear in, would be extremely helpfull when trying to sort these guys out from one another.

I could then "Upload" the collages to my image galleries and visitors to the gallery could use them as a reference tool.

I understand Robin.

The Police Officer standing is for certain Hargis.

The othter is most likely Haygood who stopped soon. Baker was inside the TSBD. It's just logical.

The one who was hardly seen must be McLain.

Nothing more to add. Todd will beat me if i'am mistaken.

best to you

Martin

Who are these two Motorcycle Cops seen in Cancellare. ?

Do they stop and dismount there bikes, or do they continue through the underpass. ?

Hi Robin

That would be Haygood (on the right and he stopped running up the incline to be observered by Bowers wrongly to be on his cycle)

[you know Bowers said he rode up the embankment].

and Courson how drove away.

Martin