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  1. thank you Blair no offense meant none taken and heavens not all agree nor I amongst all , to each there own makes this all continue...forever ?? hopefully not..perhaps one day then we can all go home and get back to other pursuits and interests and sell all the books and retain back much more room within our abodes for ourselves...b..
  2. thanks blair i am EXTREMLY Aware.i have bad hands arms and shoulders and neck from osteo and it is much easier for me when i get into one of these threads for repeat postings to do so with the caps locks on....it goes along with the ....aw those ole grey bones on one old grey mare hopefully not you as time goes by but??perhaps you will see ..take good care B
  3. I WAS IN ERROR AGAIN MORE GREY CELLS UNACCOUNTED FOR,,, :huh:IT'S BEEN MANY MANY YEARS THE CORRECT SHAKESPEARE IS. SO THEY SAY...but the actual quote is, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." It's spoken by Hamlet's mother Gertrude as she watches a play (devised by Hamlet to make her squirm a little...) about a man who kills his brother and marries the widow -- essentially what's just happened in her own life, she being the widow. In the play, the woman is defending herself against accepting responsibility for her unsavory actions (marrying her dead husband's brother). Gertrude is basically saying that she would be a lot more believable if she weren't so vocal about her innocence. Or, the more you try to talk your way out of it, the less people will believe you.B...
  4. PETER ...UPDATE FURTHER UPLOADS.. WHETHER ONE CHOOSES TO OR NOT TO BELIEVE IN THE FILM AND OR PHOTO STUDIES THERE IS MUCH OF VALUE AND INFORMATION WITHIN THE STUDIES OR ONE CAN STAY IN THE DARK THEIR CHOICE.....IMO THERE IS MUCH SMOKE THERE AND THE REASON SUCH HAS ALWAYS BEEN ATTACKED AND PUT DOWN...I THINK THEY DOEST PROTEST TOO MUCH...SUCH AS FROM SHAKESPEARE SCENARIO WHERE PARTY A WAS MAKING TOO BIG A FUSS IN AND FRAMING PARTY B.....A WHO SPOKE UP TOO LONG AND TOO LOUDLY IN TRYING TO FRAME THE INNOCENT MAN B KNOWING ALL THE WHILE HE A WAS THE GUILTY PARTY..AND CONNECTED TO THE OTHERS AS WELL.......BTW RICH AND SHELBY'S SON HAS NOW FULLY RECOVERED , GOOD NEWS ...TAKE CARE All.....b.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 16 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 17 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 18 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 19 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 20 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 21 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 22 Dr John's are now finished. David Healy's are next up. Rich ZAPRUDER FAKERY: John Costella interview ZAPRUDER FAKERY: Jack White interview Part 1 ZAPRUDER FAKERY: Jack White interview Part 2 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 1 - James Fetzer Part 1 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 1 - James Fetzer Part 2 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 1 - James Fetzer Part 3 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 1 - James Fetzer Part 4 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 1 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 2 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 3 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 4 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 5 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 6 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 7 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 8 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 9 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 10 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 11 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 12 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 13 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 14 ZAPRUDER FAKERY 2 - John Costella Part 15 Rich p.s if anyone has any problem in finding the videos in order in search on you tube LIKE CRAIG SIMPLY type in Zapruder fakery MANY OTHERS ALSO POP UP...GEE... B...
  5. YOUR WELCOME JIM..IS THIS THE RUSH FILM THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF OR ?? ASTHERE WERE TWO TAKEN BY TOURISTS AND 3 BY WDSU TV..IS IT ON THE YOU TUBE AND OR AVAILABLE..HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE FRAMES BUT I DO NOT SEE HIM I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY AS YOU DESCRIBE HIM STEPPING UP ON THE CURB AND LHO HANDING HIM A LEAFLET..I WILL EMAIL A CONTACT ONE NEVER KNOWS......BUT........BEST B..
  6. We are posting the Duluth conference on the Zapruder film on YouTube. >> Check out Rich's good work, if you have the chance. Some links are: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSghy2TkIY >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtZqautUPPw >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0vayhmQNU >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tsoLRI4tE >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JjP-Kz0Ic >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4BXBSGcT9w >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A5XctPrtfI >> >> There will be around 66 by the time we are done. B...
  7. YOUR WELCOME JIM..IS THIS THE RUSH FILM THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF OR ?? ASTHERE WERE TWO TAKEN BY TOURISTS AND 3 BY WDSU TV..IS IT ON THE YOU TUBE AND OR AVAILABLE..HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE FRAMES BUT I DO NOT SEE HIM I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE NOT FOUND ANY AS YOU DESCRIBE HIM STEPPING UP ON THE CURB AND LHO HANDING HIM A LEAFLET..I WILL EMAIL A CONTACT ONE NEVER KNOWS......BUT........BEST B..
  8. peter i thought i had posted this for you but upon checking the thread i could not find such the study from sprague......complete with his comparisons to the zapruder frames included..to the actions seen i believe .....John if I have posted then if you do find please delete..though I shall check again........b ??
  9. JIM I Took A look but could not find a man stepping up on the curb,, but then my eyes are certainly lacking sometime more than often..but here are two compilations re n.o frames perhaps if seen you could point him out.one is james' work...i know .the other ?? now sorry...and some photos from the past of possibles whose names have been mentioned not many but fwtaw..you may want to compare.......best b..if not I do have other frames from lho in n.os re the leaflet episodes..
  10. here perhaps are also others opinions to contemplate........B S. I said Bernardo de Torres (as possible DCM) in an earlier post. I meant to say Felipe Vidal Santiago. (Thomas Graves) Hi Thomas, It seems that researchers are split between DCM being Orlando Bosch or Felipe Vidal Santiago. I for one have swayed strongly toward Vidal for quite some time and his sidekick being Roy Hargraves. I am going to be hard pressed to change my mind but over the last few months, another combination has been thrown into the mix, Evelio Duque and Jerry Buchanan. I present it here as just another possibility and as a combination of characters which are curious to say the least. These two guys worked together on a regular basis and the Agency had a keen interest in Duque. Bottom line is that DCM was positioned right amongst the action and his behavior (pre and post shooting) was supicious to say the least. FWIW. James The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...=8095&st=15
  11. HI BRIAN.... THERE IS MUCH ON THE WEB AND HERE ON THE THROAT SHOT COMING FROM THE FRONT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE AREA OF THE OVERPASS..IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO MARY FARRELL'S SITE THERE IS DOUG WELDON'S DEEP RESEARCH WITHIN..FYI......ALSO PUBLISHED WITHIN DR.FETZER'S BOOK ....WHICH CAN BE BOUGHT VERY REASONABLY USED....I DO HAVE THE MF LINK TO DOUG'S WILL FIND IT AND POST FOR YOU IF YOU CANNOT ACCESS......THE W/C S POSITION WAS ONLY 3 SHOTS ALL FROM THE TSBD AS YOU KNOW....AFTER IT PAST THE TSBD..ONE MISSING...ONE ENTERING THE BACK OF JFKS NECK AND EXITING HIS THROAT EVEN THOUGH THE TRAJECTORY WAS IMPOSSIBLE.....IT THEN ENTERED CONNALLY'S BACK SNAPPED OFF A RIB BROKE HIS RIGHT WRIST AND LODGING IN HIS LEFT THIGH...EVEN THOUGH CONNALLY DISAGREED WITHIN HIS TESTIMONY AND HE WAS THERE AND RECEIVED SUCH AND WAS A HUNTER.....THE 3RD SHOT THEN ENTERINGTHE BACK OF JFK'S HEAD CAUSING A FATAL INJURY.....AND NO SHOTS COMING FROM THE FRONT AS PER THE W/C.,SIMPLE NO..!! NO..IMO...THE EVIDENCE AS GIVEN WITHIN THE W/C THE TESTIMONY OF WITNESSES AND ALSO THOSE WHO ARE NOT WITHIN..POINTS TO AN AMBUSH OF MANY SHOTS FROM PERHAPS SEVERAL POINTS.......FORREST SORRELL'S THE SS AGENT IN CHARGE WHO DROVE THE ROUTE A FEW days before stated '' someone wanting to get the president of the united states could do it with a high powered rifle (which the m/c was not...)...could do it from some building or some hillside ; MARTIN A HERO FOR OUR TIME PAGE 387...SORRELLS WAS IN THE LEAD CAR...AND WITHIN HIS TESTIMONY TO THE W/C WHEN HE HEARD THE FIRST REPORT HE TURNED AROUND TO LOOK UO ON THE TERRACE BECAUSE THE SOUND , SOUNDED LIKE IT CAME FROM BACK UP THERE..''BUT THE REORT SEEMED SO LOUD THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME IN OTHER WORDS THAT MY FIRST THOUGHT ' SOMEBODY UP ON THE TERRACE'' AND THAT IS THE REASON I LOOKED UP THERE...CHIEF CURRY ALSO IN THE LEAD CAR STATED A SHOT CAME FROM THE FRONT..SORRELLS ALSO SAID AT THE TIME HE NEVER LOOKED BACK UP AT THE BUILDING..VOL 7 P 338...ROY KELLERMAN SSSA IN CHARGE OF THE W/H SECURITY FOR THE TRIP WHO RODE IN THE SAME CAR AS JFK...STATED HE HEARD A FIRECRACKER TYPE NOISE,,AND THAT HE HEARD A VOICE FROM THE BACK THOUGH THE DOCS THOUGHT IT IMPOSSIBLE,,,,SAY '' MY GOD I'M HIT '' AS HE TURNED AROUND TO LOOK HE SAW THE PRESIDENT'S HANDS GO UP TO HIS THROAT...IN A CHOKING GESTURE...HE THEN STATED ''A FLURRY OF SHELLS COMING INTO THE CAR,,''HE ALSO DESCRIBED THE SECOND AND THIRD SHOTS AS SOUNDING LIKE AS A DOUBLE BANG...LIKE THAT OF A PLANE BREAKING THE SOUND BARRIER.....HEARINGS PAGE 78 VOL 11 THEN ALSO THERE IS RR INSPECTOR SAM HOLLAND AND THE RR MEN ON THE OVERPASS...SEE MARK LANE'S VIDEO.....FRANK REILLY OVERPASS AND SEVEN OTHERS I THINK....BOTH THE NEWMANS..ABE ZAPRUDER HIMSELF WHO PUTS A SHOT FROM BEHIND HIM FROM HIS RIGHT STANDING ON THE PEDESTAL...THESE WITNESSES CO-ORDINATE WITH SO MANY OTHERS I DO NOT THINK WE CAN POSSIBLY IGNORE THEM ALL.....INCLUDING DPD OFFICER MARSHALL AS WELL AS ANOTHER SS LANDIS.......PERSONALLY DO I NOW THINK A DART HIT HIM IN THE THROAT NO.....BUT I HAVE BEEN PRESENTING OTHER'S RESEARCH WHICH .IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE'S PERUSAL...WAS SUCH A WEAPON AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CIA YES...DO I THINK HE WAS HIT BY A SS FROM WITHIN THE CAR NO.,BUT I DO WONDER IF THE UMBRELLA MAN AND DCM WERE SIGNALING FOR WHOMEVER WAS UP ON THE KNOLL OR WHEREVER TO FIRE....HE WAS THERE WITHIN RANGE AND A PRIME TARGET....FIRE AND THEY DID...ALSO SEE THE YELLOW PAINT MARKINGS ON THE CURB SIDES MARKING WITHIN THE AREA WHERE HE WAS HIT....FROM MORE THAN ONE SITE..IMO....THERE WERE ALSO OTHER EXAMPLES WITHIN DEALEY OF HITS THAT WERE IGNORED AND THEN COVERED UP ALSO....COUNTING MANY MORE THAN THE W/C'S FARCE OF JUST 3...PERHAPS YOU WOULD BE INTERESTRED IN PAUL RIGBY'S WORK....HE ALSO HAS A THEORY SIMILAR TO YOURS..THAT THE SS SHOT JFK.FROM WITHIN THE LIMO...WHICH IMO IS TOO EACH THEIR OWN AND I DO RESPECT WITHOUT THROWING CRUMMY OR NASTY REMARKS IN ANY WAY...PERHAPS SHOWING THEIR L.R BELIEFS..BECAUSE I DIFFER MEANS I SIMPLY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION AND I CERTAINLY COULD BE IN ERROR AGAIN..BUT I REALIZE YOUR WORK AND RESEARCH THAT YOU AND OTHERS HAVE PUT INTO SUCH AND I DO AND THAT SHOULD BE RESPECTED AS I ALSO DO WITH THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THE DART THEORY......SO FOR NOW THANKS FOR THE COME BACK..THIS HAS IMO BEEN A VERY INTERESTING THREAD.....BEST B.. RON...SOME WILL DO AND HAVE ANYTHING FOR MONEY EVEN STAND AT A CURBSIDE AND WATCH A PARADE,,,THANKS JAMES FOR THE INPUT......PETER NO BOOK.....PERHAPS SOME DAY A CD OR SUCH I COULD NEVER AUTHOR A BOOK THE LANGUAGE IN PARTS WOULD BE SHALL WE SAY TOO COLOURFUL TO EVER PASS..
  12. A good article -- based on “Unspeakable.”LHO AND THE CIA http://mwcnews.net/content/view/33737/26/ B...
  13. I stand by the fact stated in post #7, paragraph 2. Having grown up in the 1960s, I could elaborate - Lenny Bruce would have elaborated had he seen the tableau of these odd companions. I'm surprised that the image, if innocent, wasn't exploited in period magazines. Unless photos were altered, and I don't believe these were, the radio and antenna on the "Latin" or "Cuban" look very compelling. Might there be facts proving this guy was a Kennedy protector, not a JFK-killer? Scenario: The "Cuban" is there to give a "simple raising of the arm," telling Cuban hit team members or radio coordinators that a fatal wound is not delivered by that logistical point ahead of the front team. Umbrella man is there as a partner, to allow the non-Cuban hitters to discern the "Cuban" from any stray Mexican male in the Texas street - "He's the guy in white, next to the guy holding the black umbrella!" The umbrella is a signature directed toward Kennedy and his crew, and supporters of the assassination: This coup is authored by the military and its partners in intel, who will not countenance appeasement in Cuba or SE Asia. SE Asia is especially connected to the umbrella by WW II. These guys see SE Asia as a policy hangover from the Japanese surrender and the subsequent lamented loss of China. One fact is that we are responding to incongruities that we don't fully understand: A dark man in a light coat. A light man in a dark coat. Together. So this is a theory of congruity based on a situational fact of xenophobia (post #7, paragraph 2) that, in its negative form, explains presence and propinquity in the curbside photos. hi david again...... thanks for your input and opinion..it is what makes forums successful....i have been trying to present somewhat of a model simply attempting to account for the data.and research that has been done over time...I am simply trying to present what data has been processed on dcm and tum from in the past....all will make up their own minds.....to me the possibility of four men seen with radios before during and after the assassination raises questions..why at a presidential motorcade when they certainly were not fbi nor ss that day.......one of whom was with umbrella man..... see within photos that i have posted.thanks ..B ..robin...thanks for the photo..showing dcm in the street..
  14. MANY THANKS CHRIS...I HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOURS THAT I TRIED TO UPLOAD WOULD NOT BUT THEN THAT IS ABOUT ALL I CAN DO WITH THEM BUT I DO ENJOY COLLECTING SUCH....I WOULD VENTURE TO THINK IT THE UMBRELLA APPEARS TO BE ON IT'S WAY AND STRAIGHTENING BACK UP......FROM A QUICK LOOK.......THANKS AGAIN YOU DO MAKE THEM THE BEST ALWAYS...IMO...TAKE CARE B...
  15. Bernice, You've jumped the gun a bit here. I do not have images or video of this on my blog as yet. I merely wrote about Wallace Milam's discovery, but I was still looking for photographic material to demonstrate it. I'll show what you've got and posted here. BTW, if you know if this clip is online, youtube,com or elsewere let me know and I'll put that on my blog to. Joe Backes HI JOE..sorry if i jumped the gun somewhat but this was such good news, well to me anyway..so many witnesses are and continue to be attacked and as we now are seeing hopefully once more with new info coming to light.....she has been unfairly....HERE IS THE WEE GIF I HAVE SAVED THAT I HAVE OF LAMB CHOP THIS HAS BEEN OUT FOR MANY YEARS SINCE...93 AS REPORTED BY CONNIE....KRITZBERG AND EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE PAST ON SEVERAL FORUMS THEY WHOMEVER, MAKE EXCUSES AND STILL CANNOT CHANGE THEIR PRE CONCEIVED IDEAS.....WHERE IT HAS APPEARED...THEY STILL ACCUSE HER OF MANY THINGS.......I DOUBT NOW, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO FIND AND POST AND MANY THANKS FOR SUCH...THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ADMIT THEY WERE IN ERROR.IMO..EAT CROW YOU PEOPLES WHOMEVER AGAIN.......MANY THANKS FOR YOUR WORK.TAKE CARE B http://jfkhistory.com/whitedog.gif I have watched it many times, now one thing I notice is that no woman handles a small bouquet of flowers, by clutching it in the middle of such, it is held by the stems, and the last time we see whatever, it appears to be a small bulky item, of perhaps the same thickness and is squarish, ?? and if you notice as her left thumb, grasps it in the middle...whatever gives as if it was stuffed with something soft ? could be..?..well I imagine flowers would also do that, but..?? Could it be she was not only given a small bouquet of white flowers but also, a Lamb Chop, Dog or such......?? I realize it is an aside, but Jean has been given such a hard time over the years for her recollections, and one of the few that stood firm.....but they say because she lied about this, she lied about all...b/s...imo..So whenever I come across anything that may prove such, Ihave snaggled it.BELOW IS ALSO the information From "Secrets from the Sixth Floor Window".. 1994.BY .Connie Kritzberg.. page.178.. Jean Hill "A statement made to me by Jean Hill plagued her for years, and bothered me as well. She said there was a "fluffy white dog" between the President and Jackie. She was ridiculed by a number of people, she related , in her story written by Bill Sloan entitled "The Last Dissenting Witness". I found the statement somewhat embarassing, and I wished I had considered omitting it,( Nov.22/63 for her newspaper story, I believe she is referring to...bm..) but there was no time for reflection. Copy boys were relentless in seizing the paragraphs almost before the paragraph was typed.. Only in 1993 was television news coverage shown which portrayed Jackie Kennedy accepting a small white "Lambchops" stuffed animal which she showed to Jack and carried to the limousine with her. Jean Hill was vindicated, and I was vastly relieved both of us when the footage was shown to participants at the 1993 ASK symposium held in Dallas. Hill had been ill, her father had recently died, and she did not see the comforting clip. On what small and relatively insignificant points of fact reputations rest...."end... I guess the problem is, was that those in attendance at the 93 Ask, in Dallas did not get the information out.......?? Too bad, as Jean is still ridiculed on this subject, they still use it...on the web... I believe I recall Jack White saying that he met Jean quite often over the years, and spoke with her many times, and she never changed her story...I Think it was Jean that was called the "cookie lady"...during Oliver Stone's filming the "JFK movie, or was that Mary Moorman.....?? and looked forward to her arriving....with the treats... The Lamb Chops and Jackie photos I posted are from Jack White's research ...work..TO WHOM THE SOME IMO THEY OWE AN APOLOGY TO ALSO.... B.M ...........P.S SEEN BELOW IS A PHOTO OF JFK AND CAROLINE WITH HER PUPPET LAMB CHOP THAT HAD BEEN SEEN PUBLICIZED PREVIOUSLY IN MAGAZINES.. HI JOE..YOUR WELCOME.AND NO SECRET WHO FROM ..I AM A PACK RAT AND SAVE TO MY COLLECTIONS..I CANNOT TELL YOU WHERE OR WHAT SPECIFIC MAGAZINE THAT PHOTO CAME FROM.......MANY OF THESE PHOTOS ETC AS I HAVE MENTIONED ARE FROM JACK WHITE'S RESEARCH WORK THAT HE HAS POSTED DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS THAT I SNAGGLED AND SAVED SO IT MAY BE FROM HIM AND IF SO HE MAY COME ALONG HERE AND BE ABLE TO LET YOU KNOW..I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP HOPEFULLY SOME INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN POSTED DOWN THROUGH TIME...SAFE, AND AVAILABLE FOR THE RESEARCHERS ON THE WEB... AS SO VERY MUCH NOW HAS DISAPPEARED FROM THE WEB... B..ONR MORE BELOW FROM JACK'S WORK...
  16. thanks ron.......IF UM WAS NOT A PART OF SOMETHIMG THAT DAY..THOUGH I BELIEVE WITT STATED DCM WAS A STRANGER..WHOMEVER HE SITS BESIDE SOMEONE WHO HAD A RADIO ON HIM, WALKIE OR WHATEVER TYPE, AND DID SPEAK INTO SUCH SHOWN IN A PHOTO AFTER..THE ASSASSINATION AND THEN DCM WALKS AWAY WITH THE AERIAL IS SHOWING STICKING UP ON THE BACK OF HIS JACKET...SO I AM THINKING HE IN SOME WAY MUST HAVE KNOWN DCM OR OF HIM..AS A CONTACTAND WAS THERE AS A PART......B...
  17. thanks ron.......IF UM WAS NOT A PART OF SOMETHING THAT DAY..THOUGH I BELIEVE WITT STATED DCM WAS A STRANGER..WHOMEVER ......HE SITS BESIDE SOMEONE WHO HAD A RADIO ON HIM, WALKIE OR WHATEVER TYPE, AND DID SPEAK INTO SUCH SHOWN IN A PHOTO AFTER..THE ASSASSINATION AND THEN DCM WALKS AWAY WITH THE AERIAL SHOWING STICKING UP ON THE BACK OF HIS JACKET...SO I AM THINKING HE IN SOME WAY MUST HAVE KNOWN DCM OR OF HIM..AS A CONTACTAND WAS THERE AS A PART......B...
  18. ''And, like so many others, cast away, forgotten, refused.'' well imo you got that right except for them also perhaps being hounded, insulted, and so on...b
  19. [quote name='Brian O Connor' date='Oct 13 2009, 05:30 PM' post='173202' Dealy Plaza is such a big place, and all things considered, I wonder why the UM would choose that particlar place to stand rather than say, accross the road , well out of harms way, and in clear view of the Book depository, the grassy knoll, the Daltex building, somone down in the drains, the Stemmons freeway bridge etc. Cause` the place he choose looks to me to be a pretty awful choice, if he were trying to signal someone say on on the knoll, or someone hunkered in the drains for example, obscured as he was, by a great big TRAFFIC SIGN! And, why do they erect traffic signs and where do they get placed? They give directions, and they are set up where they in clear view of the road and easily seen by the drivers passing by. So, pumping his umbrella in the air in front of a great big road sign, who would be most likely to see it first? [/quote/b] hi brian ...''who would be most likely to see it first?'' I imagine only those perhaps who were watching for the signal.if as some say lho could see from the tsbd 6th floor window past signs people and all i imagine those who were ready and waiting could also...you bring up another thought why was the sign taken down after, some did say a shot hit it..and it showed a bullet hole...B [/quote/b]
  20. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...=126&t=9620 B..
  21. THANKS BRIAN FOR THE FURTHER AND VERY INTERESTING INFORMATION........SEE BELOW FROM CUTLER AND SPRAGUE ://jfkresearch.com/forum3/index.php/topic,3276.40.html 1.08 INCH PUSH ROD FLECHETTE 1.08 INCH STING RAY FLECHETTE 1.1 INCH COATED BEE HIVE FLECHETTE 1.2 INCH COATED FLEX FLECHETTE WEAPONS LAW LINK...Bill Number: SB 578 http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/01-02/bill/sen/...9_enrolled.html http://www.bombsecurity.com/CABO/caboweap3.html
  22. Bernice, You've jumped the gun a bit here. I do not have images or video of this on my blog as yet. I merely wrote about Wallace Milam's discovery, but I was still looking for photographic material to demonstrate it. I'll show what you've got and posted here. BTW, if you know if this clip is online, youtube,com or elsewere let me know and I'll put that on my blog to. Joe Backes HI JOE..sorry if i jumped the gun somewhat but this was such good news, well to me anyway..so many witnesses are and continue to be attacked and as we now are seeing hopefully once more with new info coming to light.....she has been unfairly....HERE IS THE WEE GIF I HAVE SAVED THAT I HAVE OF LAMB CHOP THIS HAS BEEN OUT FOR MANY YEARS SINCE...93 AS REPORTED BY CONNIE....KRITZBERG AND EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE PAST ON SEVERAL FORUMS THEY WHOMEVER, MAKE EXCUSES AND STILL CANNOT CHANGE THEIR PRE CONCEIVED IDEAS.....WHERE IT HAS APPEARED...THEY STILL ACCUSE HER OF MANY THINGS.......I DOUBT NOW, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO FIND AND POST AND MANY THANKS FOR SUCH...THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ADMIT THEY WERE IN ERROR.IMO..EAT CROW YOU PEOPLES WHOMEVER AGAIN.......MANY THANKS FOR YOUR WORK.TAKE CARE B http://jfkhistory.com/whitedog.gif I have watched it many times, now one thing I notice is that no woman handles a small bouquet of flowers, by clutching it in the middle of such, it is held by the stems, and the last time we see whatever, it appears to be a small bulky item, of perhaps the same thickness and is squarish, ?? and if you notice as her left thumb, grasps it in the middle...whatever gives as if it was stuffed with something soft ? could be..?..well I imagine flowers would also do that, but..?? Could it be she was not only given a small bouquet of white flowers but also, a Lamb Chop, Dog or such......?? I realize it is an aside, but Jean has been given such a hard time over the years for her recollections, and one of the few that stood firm.....but they say because she lied about this, she lied about all...b/s...imo..So whenever I come across anything that may prove such, Ihave snaggled it.BELOW IS ALSO the information From "Secrets from the Sixth Floor Window".. 1994.BY .Connie Kritzberg.. page.178.. Jean Hill "A statement made to me by Jean Hill plagued her for years, and bothered me as well. She said there was a "fluffy white dog" between the President and Jackie. She was ridiculed by a number of people, she related , in her story written by Bill Sloan entitled "The Last Dissenting Witness". I found the statement somewhat embarassing, and I wished I had considered omitting it,( Nov.22/63 for her newspaper story, I believe she is referring to...bm..) but there was no time for reflection. Copy boys were relentless in seizing the paragraphs almost before the paragraph was typed.. Only in 1993 was television news coverage shown which portrayed Jackie Kennedy accepting a small white "Lambchops" stuffed animal which she showed to Jack and carried to the limousine with her. Jean Hill was vindicated, and I was vastly relieved both of us when the footage was shown to participants at the 1993 ASK symposium held in Dallas. Hill had been ill, her father had recently died, and she did not see the comforting clip. On what small and relatively insignificant points of fact reputations rest...."end... I guess the problem is, was that those in attendance at the 93 Ask, in Dallas did not get the information out.......?? Too bad, as Jean is still ridiculed on this subject, they still use it...on the web... I believe I recall Jack White saying that he met Jean quite often over the years, and spoke with her many times, and she never changed her story...I Think it was Jean that was called the "cookie lady"...during Oliver Stone's filming the "JFK movie, or was that Mary Moorman.....?? and looked forward to her arriving....with the treats... The Lamb Chops and Jackie photos I posted are from Jack White's research ...work..TO WHOM THE SOME IMO THEY OWE AN APOLOGY TO ALSO.... B.M ...........P.S SEEN BELOW IS A PHOTO OF JFK AND CAROLINE WITH HER PUPPET LAMB CHOP THAT HAD BEEN SEEN PUBLICIZED PREVIOUSLY IN MAGAZINES..
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