David Von Pein

So, Jim, since I proved in 2016 (via the above Endnotes quotation) that Vincent Bugliosi positively did "tell the reader" about the "36-inch" vs. "40-inch" rifle discrepancy, can we at least agree that you chose your words poorly when you asked the following two questions in 2016 and 2019?.... "Please show us where in VB's 2646-page opus he tells the reader that the rifle the Dallas Police offered into evidence is not the same rifle that Oswald allegedly ordered?" -- Jim D.; August 2016 "What does one make of a lawyer who bases his book on the rifle but DOES NOT TELL THE READER IT'S THE WRONG RIFLE?!" -- Jim D.; August 2019 Well, I have certainly read every page of the "Reclaiming History" endnotes. So your crickets in the night have just been forever silenced. 😉 And I continue to reference various parts of Vince Bugliosi's book on a regular basis (both the physical hardcover volume and the 1,000+ pages of CD-ROM endnotes). The book—including the very important endnotes—is an invaluable source of factual information concerning the events of November 22, 1963 (despite the conspiracy theorists' condemnation of it). The Warren Commission undoubtedly didn't feel the need to bring up the 36-inch/40-inch rifle-length discrepancy because they knew beyond all doubt that Klein's had definitely shipped the Kennedy murder weapon to Lee Oswald in March of '63. Waldman Exhibit No. 7 proves that fact for all time. The key to knowing this fact, of course, is the rifle's serial number—C2766—which is a number that appears on both Waldman #7 and the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle in the National Archives today. Plus, when we examine the Klein's Catalog Numbers on the two pertinent rifle-purchasing documents in this case—Waldman #7 and CE773—we can see that the catalog numbers are identical —— C20-T750. And it's also important to take note of the fact that even after Klein's Sporting Goods changed their magazine ads from the 36-inch rifle to the 40-inch model, the internal Klein's catalog number remained the same for at least a few months after Oswald purchased his gun, with the two Klein's advertisements pictured below proving that fact. Both of these Klein's ads depict a catalog number of C20-T750 for the $19.95 Rifle + Scope package that Oswald ordered in March 1963. The top ad is from the February '63 American Rifleman magazine (which was the source for Oswald's purchase), while the bottom ad (which is advertising a 40-inch Italian carbine) comes from later in 1963....

Reprise..... Jim has apparently conveniently forgotten about this discussion we had on August 22, 2016.... JIM DiEUGENIO SAID: Davey: Please show us where in VB's 2646-page opus [sic; Bugliosi's book is actually 2,824 pages long, including all endnotes and source notes] he tells the reader that the rifle the Dallas Police offered into evidence is not the same rifle that Oswald allegedly ordered? DVP SAID: Okay. Gladly. Here you go.... ---Quote On:--- "The Warren Commission overlooked putting the American Rifleman advertisement in its volumes. But conspiracy theorist Sylvia Meagher points out that the advertisement was for a $12.88 Carcano ($19.95 with scope) that was 36 inches long, weighed 5 1⁄2 pounds, and had a catalog number of C20-T750, though we know the $19.95 Carcano that was sent to Oswald was 40 1⁄5 inches long and weighed 8 pounds, which was closer to the 40-inch Carcano weighing 7 pounds advertised in the November 1963 ad in a different magazine, Field and Stream. But Meagher fails to state the significance of this discrepancy. (Meagher, 'Accessories after the Fact', p.48 footnote; fact that Oswald ordered his Carcano from a February 1963 Klein’s advertisement in the American Rifleman magazine: Waldman Exhibit No. 8, 21 H 704; CE 773, 17 H 635; WR, p.119; 7 H 366, WCT William J. Waldman; advertisement reprinted in “In the Works: Tighter Laws on Gun Sales,” p.4; see also the August 27, 1965, edition of Life magazine [pages 62-65]; Field and Stream ad where yet a different catalog number, C20-750, is used for the Carcano: Holmes Exhibit No. 2, 20 H 174, viii; 7 H 294, WCT Harry D. Holmes; length and weight of Oswald’s Carcano: 3 H 395, WCT Robert A. Frazier) In other words, so what? We know Oswald was shipped his Carcano, serial number C2766 (whether or not it was the same weapon he had ordered, and whether or not he was even aware he received a Carcano a little over 4 inches longer and 3 1⁄2 pounds heavier [sic] than he had ordered), we know it was found in the sniper’s nest [sic], and we know it was the murder weapon." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 392-393 of Endnotes in "Reclaiming History" [Also Pictured Below]

The above comment by DiEugenio concerning the rifle is just one more example (among hundreds) that illustrates DiEugenio's complete inability to properly evaluate the totality of evidence connected to John F. Kennedy's assassination. If there's ever been a person who has gotten more things wrong about the JFK case than Jim DiEugenio has, I'd love to know who that person is. DiEugenio knows full well that there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Lee Harvey Oswald ordered a 36-inch rifle but was shipped a 40-inch model. But Jim won't admit it---ever. And that's because he's totally enamored with the really dumb idea that Lee Harvey Oswald never took possession of Rifle C2766 at all in 1963. Even a picture of Oswald holding that exact rifle doesn't convince Jimmy that LHO ever had that weapon in his hands. HERE'S the reasonable explanation regarding the rifle that DiEugenio will continue to pretend is not reasonable at all. More rifle talk (and other miscellany) below.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=DiEugenio Insists It's The Wrong Rifle

Maybe you missed this part of my last message.... "The question of whether or not Oswald was involved in ANY type of conspiracy can never, of course, be answered with 100% certainty..."

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-101.html "Not a single solitary bit of DiEugenio's Bugliosi-trashing effort above has anything whatsoever to do with Vince Bugliosi's JFK book "Reclaiming History". Jimbo is just looking for an excuse--any excuse--to bash Vincent T. Bugliosi. And Jim is willing to travel far outside the "JFK Assassination" perimeter to try and somehow smear Vince's 20-year effort regarding the JFK case. I guess the idea is: If Vince wasn't a saint all of his life, that must mean he was all wrong about all of the evidence in the JFK murder case. .... But the fact remains that Vince Bugliosi, in his huge tome "Reclaiming History", has proven Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt at least ten times over. The question of whether or not Oswald was involved in ANY type of conspiracy can never, of course, be answered with 100% certainty (and I've said that very thing myself in the past; and if you want my direct quotes, I'll be happy to dig them up). But I agree with Vince when he said ---- "In the [John F.] Kennedy case, I believe the absence of a conspiracy can be proved to a virtual certainty." " -- DVP; July 2015

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You might be sick to death of it, Jim, but it's oh so undeniably true.

Addendum.... And, of course, practically every time an Internet conspiracy theorist opens his mouth, he proves the point that Vince made in this gem.... "The conspiracy community regularly seizes on one slip of the tongue, misunderstanding, or slight discrepancy to defeat twenty pieces of solid evidence; accepts one witness of theirs, even if he or she is a provable nut, as being far more credible than ten normal witnesses on the other side; treats rumors, even questions, as the equivalent of proof; leaps from the most minuscule of discoveries to the grandest of conclusions; and insists that the failure to explain everything perfectly negates all that is explained." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Page xliii of “Reclaiming History: The Assassination Of President John F. Kennedy”

Oh Brother (with a huge Capital B)! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! This ridiculous thread authored by Mr. Niederhut just might take first prize in the "Pot/Kettle" category here in the year 2019. Because the only people who are doing any "bamboozling" and "misrepresenting the facts" regarding the murders of John Kennedy and J.D. Tippit are the conspiracy theorists, not people like the late Vincent T. Bugliosi, that's for sure. (Just think "Mark Lane" and "Jim Garrison" and "Jim Fetzer", for starters. Three of the greatest bamboozlers of all-time.) And I find it humorous to see how the number of Bugliosi-haters has grown in just the last few years, with the VB-bashers now not content to verbally assault Vince for just his opinions on the JFK case....but now we're getting a whole new wave of 21st-century Vince bashers, who now suddenly have a desire to toss Vince under the bus for his work on the Charles Manson case as well----even though all rational people who have even a slight knowledge of the details surrounding that particular murder case know beyond any doubt that the "Helter Skelter" theory was rooted in fact (based on what Bugliosi was told by other members of Manson's "Family"). But those facts will naturally be totally ignored by the outer-fringe conspiracy theorists of the world. Pathetic. If you want to read some of the best "Vince-isms" (as I like to call my favorite VB quotes), go here.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/favorite-quotes-from-reclaiming-history.html Samples.... "It is...remarkable that these conspiracy theorists aren't troubled in the least by their inability to present any evidence that Oswald was set up and framed. For them, the mere belief or speculation that he was is a more-than-adequate substitute for evidence." -- Vincent Bugliosi "The conspiracy alterationists are so incredibly zany that they have now gone beyond their allegation that key frames of the Zapruder film were altered by the conspirators to support their false story of what took place, to claiming that the conspirators altered all manner of people and objects in Dealey Plaza that couldn't possibly have any bearing on the president's murder. .... The alterationists have even claimed that at some point after the assassination, all the curbside lampposts in Dealey Plaza were moved to different locations and/or replaced with poles of different height. .... I know that conspiracy theorists have a sweet tooth for silliness, but is there absolutely nothing that is too silly for their palate?" -- Vincent Bugliosi "There is a simple fact of life that Warren Commission critics and conspiracy theorists either don't realize or fail to take into consideration, something I learned from my experience as a prosecutor; namely, that in the real world—you know, the world in which when I talk you can hear me, there will be a dawn tomorrow, et cetera—you cannot be innocent and yet still have a prodigious amount of highly incriminating evidence against you. That's just not what happens in life. .... But with Lee Harvey Oswald, everything, everything points towards his guilt." -- Vincent Bugliosi "In a city of more than 700,000 people, what is the probability of one of them being the owner and possessor of the weapons that murdered both Kennedy and Tippit, and yet still be innocent of both murders? Aren't we talking about DNA numbers here, like one out of several billion or trillion? Is there a mathematician in the house?" -- Vincent Bugliosi

Aren't you proud?

Excerpt from pages 32 and 33 of Marina Oswald's narrative (CE994), which most Internet conspiracy theorists undoubtedly think are words being stuffed into Marina's mouth against her will by the evil Warren Commission.... __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Also See: http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/marina-oswald.html

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/motorcade-route.html

Pre-assassination film taken at Dallas' Love Field on 11/22/63.... ____________________________________________________________________ More Films....

I'm wondering, though, if it could have been a decision made more by Kennedy's Secret Service detail than by John F. Kennedy himself. (I would bet that that was, indeed, the case.) By not inviting Davis to the Inauguration event, the Secret Service didn't have to worry about the "bomb threats", "picketing", "demonstrations", and other unpleasant baggage that always accompanies such racist points-of-view.

It does no such thing. Officer C.T. Walker obviously meant that he found no weapons on Oswald when Walker searched him at City Hall. Walker, at that point, wasn't concerned about a bus transfer being in LHO's pocket, nor was he concerned about the five loose bullets. Walker was concerned with WEAPONS still being on Oswald's person. It's nearly impossible for me to believe, however, that somebody from the DPD, prior to Walker, hadn't already patted down LHO for additional weapons while they still had Oswald in the theater. And some police officer probably did that very thing in the theater itself. That's almost always the very first thing you see cops doing after they arrest a suspect---they pat him down for weapons. And I doubt that that standard routine was any different with U.S. police departments in circa 1963. More Bullet Talk: http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-70.html#The-Bullets-In-Oswalds-Pocket

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/they-say-it-just-takes-second-to-die.html

That was one of several mistakes made by Ron Reiland when he narrated his news film on WFAA-TV on 11/22/63. The pistol being shown is J.D. Tippit's own service revolver, not the Tippit murder weapon. http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-media-errors.html

And for several hours on Nov. 22nd, the media was still giving the public the erroneous idea that Officer Tippit had been killed in a gun battle right there inside the Texas Theater. So there was quite a bit of bad information being put out (unintentionally) on television and radio in those early hours after the assassination (as I chronicle in the 27-minute video below). Such things always happen in a Mega News Event like this one.

From a 2014 discussion.... MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID: What made several police officers say in their reports that Oswald was arrested on the balcony of the TT? DAVID VON PEIN SAID: A very minor mistake really. Not important. He was arrested IN the theater. Just not "in the balcony". But we know the initial DPD radio call said they thought the suspect was "hiding in the balcony". This early erroneous speculation could have been repeated by some of the officers. Some errors get repeated from one person to the next.

So, you don't think Butch Burroughs had any obligation at all to tell Joe Ball of the Warren Commission about having sold popcorn to Lee Oswald at about 1:15 PM on 11/22/63, right? Even though Burroughs had to know that such information would be extremely important to the Commission's pending investigation, correct? Or, as Vincent Bugliosi put it in 1986 when questioning Paul O'Connor at the Oswald Mock Trial.... "So, in other words, [Mr. Burroughs]...if those investigators for the [Warren Commission] didn't ask you the magic question, by golly you're not about to tell 'em!! Is that correct?"

FWIW #2....

Despicable allegations there against DPD officers Croy and Westbrook. But it's par for the course for many conspiracy theorists. They couldn't care less how many people they accuse of being murderers and l-i-a-r-s on the flimiest of evidence (which amounts, really, to no "evidence" at all ---- a gut feeling is more than enough "evidence" for the John Armstrongs and Jim Hargroves of the world). http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/wallets-part-1.html

FWIW.... Here's an excerpt from Vincent Bugliosi's JFK book concerning some of the things Johnny Brewer did while at the Texas Theater on 11/22/63 (emphasis added by DVP): "Behind the stage Johnny Brewer is standing near the curtains that separate the audience and the exit door on the left side of the screen. When the house lights come up, he steps to the curtain and scans the astonished audience. There he is—the man he saw slip into the theater. He's sitting in the center section, six or seven rows from the back of the theater. No sooner do the lights come up than the man stands up, and scoots to the aisle to his right. Police are pouring into the lobby. The suspect turns around and sits back down, this time in the third row from the back. Suddenly, Brewer hears someone rattling the exit door from the outside. The shoe store manager pushes the door open and is immediately grabbed by two officers as he is exiting. The alley is crawling with cops, some up on the theater's fire escape. Officer Thomas A. Hutson puts a gun into Brewer's stomach. "Put your hands up and don't make a move." Brewer is shaking. "I'm not the one," he stammers. "I just came back to open the door for you. I work up the street. There's a guy inside that I was suspicious of." The officer can see that Brewer's clothing—sport coat and tie—is different from the description of the suspect. "Is he still there?" Hutson asks. "Yes. I just seen him," Brewer tells him, and leads the lawmen into the theater." -- Page 104 of "Reclaiming History" by Vincent T. Bugliosi Bugliosi's source for the words I put in bold text above is 7 H 30, which is Warren Commission testimony from Dallas police officer Thomas A. Hutson. In that WC testimony, Hutson said this about Brewer: OFFICER HUTSON -- "We pulled up to this location [the Texas Theater] and I was the first out of the car to hit the ground. As I walked up to the fire exit doors, Officer Hawkins and Baggett were getting out of the car, and the door to the theatre opened, and this unknown white male was exiting. I drew my pistol and put it on him and told him to put up his hands and not to make a move, and he was real nervous and scared and said: "I am not the one. I just came back to open the door. I work up the street at the shoestore, and Julia sent me back to open the door so you could get in." I walked up and searched him briefly and I could see by the description and his clothes that he wasn't the person we were looking for. Then I entered the theatre from this door."