Martin Blank

what i have always wanted from a revisionist is a credible explanation of where all those people they claim weren't murdered went off to.

also what did weberman, the world's first garbologist according to him, discover in bob dylan's trash.? this was back when a.j. was the founder and leader of the dylan liberation front, which he founded.

a very strange man.

jim --

your reason and restraint in this matter is appreciated as always

thanks. that was interesting.

a lot of frank olsen there, I think:

"Investigators came to the conclusion that Killam likely threw himself through the storefront window, cut his neck on the glass and crawled onto the sidewalk.

TN: Just to clarify, if he is voted in; those who voted for him, and those who did NOT vote at all will get what THEY deserve. The rest of us will be punished through no fault of our own.

For those who think it can't happen, remember, "W" was elected. Twice.

Not really true. W was never elected.

He stole two elections, one with his brother's help in Florida, and one with help from a dirty official in Ohio. And the media helped cover it all up.

Al Gore won the 2000 election, that was ultimately reversed by the Supreme Court.

isn't it one of the functions of the press in america now to cover up; when did they last investigate anyone or anything. it seems the former watchdog of liberty has been put to sleep

and the innocent sirhan continues to languish in a cell. maybe we can get bob dylan to write a song

never happen

In any event, your reply ignores all of my substantive questions.

as he always does because that would require facts and analysis

"Both Right-wing and Left-wing dictators are vicious criminals and must be stopped at all costs."

why then does the united states support so many right wing dictators?

​does this mean the state department, the cia, the jcs and even the president are guilty of treason for helping these criminals take and hold on to power?

please ask ask batista, trujillo, ky, chiang, allende, the shah, the contras, kermit roosevelt, and on and on.

please make answer as non-convoluted as possible

I made this distinction, Kenneth, that any Patriotic American who becomes converted to the doctrine that the President of the United States is a TRAITOR, can no longer qualify as a Patriotic American, but has now chosen to become a member of the Radical Right.

what if the president is a traitor?

To be Radical in any direction -- Left or Right -- exceeds the boundaries of Patriotism. That's my position. I hope that's clear.

Ok, I can accept that, but with the distinction that even if he were 'radical' right, that still wouldn't put him into the fascist category as that is reserved for the radical left which believes in dictatorship, etc. Exactly the opposite of the thinking of Walker. I'm not sure that criticism of the President is not an American Constitutional right. I certainly spend some part of my time criticizing Obama and accusing him of being a Muslim and doing all he can do to destroy America (Something no one would ever accuse Walker of) and I certainly can't believe anyone could or would ever think of my politics as anything other than 'The American Way".

your position is as clear as the ignorance that formed it. fascism is radical right. there was private ownership in germany under old uncle adolf. hitler was not a leftist. ye gods man why do you think he hated russia so much. it was the bolsheviks and jews who stabbed germany in the back causing it to lose ww i he believed. criticizing the president is free speech protected by the first amendment. you can't libel or threaten him though. your statement that he is a moslem is patently untrue (even mccain had the decency to correct that nutty old woman during the election) as is your remark that he is doing everything he can to destroy america. i accuse walker and all other similar nut jobs to seeking the destruction of america and our rights. dictatorships are not exclusive to the right anymore than they are to the left. your politics are the ramblings of someone who is unlearned. what the hell is the american way anyway. what is patriotism? do you support bringing back huac and mccarthy,.

like all good nazi's he was only following orders. he said it was against his conscience.

"Walker, a supporter of the John Birch Society, was totally opposed to school desegragation. However, as commander of the Arkansas Military District he was forced to implement the orders of Dwight Eisenhower." Had he been insubordinate and refused a direct order from the C in C he would have been court martialed.

don't flatter yourself as a historian. your views account for a fictional creation that lives only in your own mind. oh and please disagree with your own one-sided version of American history.

if you look at it a certain way stalin and old adolf were me of principle, too. just the wrong principles.

To paraphrase shakespeare a hate-mongering racist nut job following orders is still a hate mongering racist nut job orders or not; it was in his DNA.

gonna hold your feet to the fire on this one because nowhere do i link his racist politics with his coordinating the plot against jfk. why would i do that when i don't believe he did any such thing. please do not put words in my mouth or twist my words in any way that makes it seem as if i am agreeing with you or supporting your cockamamie ideas in any way. let me make it plain to you: i agree with you on nothing.

Well, I was feelin' sad and feelin' blue
I didn't know what in the world I was gonna do
Them Communists they was comin' around
They was in the air
They was on the ground
They wouldn't gimme no peace

So I run down most hurriedly
And joined up with the John Birch Society
I got me a secret membership card
And started off a-walkin' down the road
Yee-hoo, I'm a real John Bircher now
Look out you Commies

Now we all agree with Hitlers' views
Although he killed six million Jews
It don't matter too much that he was a Fascist
At least you can't say he was a Communist
That's to say like if you got a cold you take a shot of malaria

Well, I was lookin' everywhere for them gol-darned Reds
I got up in the mornin' 'n' looked under my bed
Looked in the sink, behind the door
Looked in the glove compartment of my car
Couldn't find 'em

I was lookin' high an' low for them Reds everywhere
I was lookin' in the sink an' underneath the chair
I looked way up my chimney hole
I even looked deep inside my toilet bowl
They got away

Well, I was sittin' home alone an' started to sweat
Figured they was in my T.V. set
Peeked behind the picture frame
Got a shock from my feet, hittin' right up in the brain
Them Reds caused it
I know they did, them hard-core ones

Well, I quit my job so I could work alone
Then I changed my name to Sherlock Holmes
Followed some clues from my detective bag
And discovered they was red stripes on the American flag
That ol' Betty Ross

Well, I investigated all the books in the library
Ninety percent of 'em gotta be burned away
I investigated all the people that I knowed
Ninety-eight percent of them gotta go
The other two percent are fellow Birchers, just like me

Now Eisenhower, he's a Russian spy
Lincoln, Jefferson and that Roosevelt guy
To my knowledge there's just one man
That's really a true American, George Lincoln Rockwell
I know for a fact he hates Commies 'cause he picketed the movie Exodus

Well, I fin'ly started thinkin' straight
When I run outta things to investigate
Couldn't imagine doin' anything else
So now I'm sittin' home investigatin' myself
Hope I don't find out anything, hm, great God

Dylan was barred from singing this on the Ed Sullivan Show; how could that be if the media are liberally biased

"I admitted that while General Walker was a US General, that he was a Patriotic American."

a virulent racist who led riots against the admission of an african american student at the uni of mississippi is not by any stretch of the imagination a patriot or good american. he's just another wacko nut burger who is a little too crispy around the edges for his own good. please do not insult truly great americans by trying to associate walker with them. thank you.

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walker depends on the warren commission to validate his story of oswald attempting to shoot him!!!!!! i swear to god things can't get any stranger, weirder, kookier, nuttier, zanier, laughable, horrifying, goofier, irrational, foolish, outrageous, bizarre, outlandish, ridiculous, idiotic , dafter, or odd. please make it stop.

please do not pass go. do not collect $200. but do take a course in historiography -- and soon.

Historiography, the writing of history, especially the writing of history based on the critical examination of sources, the selection of particular details from the authentic materials in those sources, and the synthesis of those details into a narrative that stands the test of critical examination. The term historiography also refers to the theory and history of historical writing.

you'll be glad you did and to paraphrase bob, you'll be doing society a favor

"James, you're cherry-picking texts out of Jeff Caufield's new 900-page book that you can nit-pick, because Caufield said, explicitly, that at a certain point, after covering the evidence about Joseph Milteer, Willie Somerset, Guy Banister and Lee Harvey Oswald, that the researcher is obliged to speculate."

the researcher is obliged to draw educated conclusions based on the evidence. if there is no evidence, you can't make it up. that's called academic fraud unless you are writing a work of fiction. but when you get someone with "acquired academic methodology" that's what you get.

i will say this: ruth paine was a helluva an actress but her job as an intelligence agent demanded it.

just remember they can make you be anyone they want you to be while you're thinking you're someone else entirely

don adams, huh. that's a wowzer. if memory serves me well (thanks for that one bob) this means you are bringing the famed maxwell smart (aka agent 86) and his shoe phone onto the investigative team (bravo for you!). as if that weren't enough we get inspector gadget and underdog along with him. i'm certain control can now beat kaos. we can't lose

just one thing before i enter the cone of silence: do you know if agent 99 is seeing anyone? she is hot.

yr. friend

tennessee tuxedo

smile everyone. jim valvano says we should do that everyday

I hope we can get back to the theme of this thread, which is Jeff Caufield's book: General Walker and the Murder of President Kennedy: The Extensive New Evidence of a Radical Right Conspiracy (2015).

I maintain that Caufield's book provides the most accurate solution to the JFK murder conspiracy of any book in the past half-century. Caufield completely wipes out the nonsense of the CIA-did-it CTers.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

you can say anything you want in a work of fiction

the more i learn, the more i am amazed by how twisted and sick a good part of the leadership of this country was in the 50's-60s

and allen ginsberg, the nyt and arthur sulzberger lead us back to gary underlie:

"This country is too dangerous for me. I've got to get on a boat. Oswald is a patsy. They set him up. It's too much. The bastards have done something outrageous. They've killed the president! I've been listening and hearing things. I couldn't believe they'd get away with it, but they did. They've gone mad! They're a bunch of drug runners and gun runners. . ."

I wonder how many of those involved in the assassination whether they be cia, dpd, etc., wound up in vietnam/se asia.

this is my favorite nyt story regarding se asia:

Through his own drug use, and the drug use of his friends and associates, Allen Ginsberg became increasingly preoccupied with the American government's relationship to drug use within and outside the nation. He worked closely with Alfred W. McCoy who was writing The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia which tracked the history of the American government's involvement in illegal opium dealing. In addition to working with McCoy, Ginsberg personally confronted Richard Helms, the director of the CIA in the 1970s, but he was simply brushed off as being "full of beans". Allen wrote many essays and articles, researching and compiling evidence of CIA's involvement, but it would take ten years, and the publication of McCoy's book in 1972, before anyone took him seriously. In 1978 Ginsberg received a note from the chief editor of the New York Times, apologizing for not taking his allegations seriously so many years previous.

haven't gotten to the last chapter yet but every other one has fanned my outrage at our country's institutions

After reading it, I understood why the MSM did not review it.

http://www.ctka.net/2016/book-review-citizen-lane/mark-lane-part-ii-citizen-lane.html

What a splendid life the guy had. I mean neither mine nor any other eulogy came close to approximating what he did.

The guy was almost everywhere, you name it: Vietnam, Wounded Knee, Memphis, Arcadia Florida with Janet Reno.

He was a credit to his profession.

a credit to his country and a true patriot

The JFK story has no particular urgency in millennial America. Im talking about a single homicide that happened before most of you were born.

This is because there has been a virtual blackout of the discoveries on the JFK case and the new discoveries about who he was ever since 1993 and the arrival of Posner's Case Closed on the 30th anniversary of his murder.

If, for instance, there was a program about Kennedy's revolutionary foreign policy, e.g. in the Middle East, you would see such interest and urgency.

But there has not been. And IMO, this is not an accident.

john newsman's groundbreaking jfk & vietnam came out in 1992 and progress among media, academics, etc., has been slow to say the least as they try to obfuscate and ignore what had been ordered at the time of his death and was beginning to take place. 24 years. yeesh

in the photos for tmwktm is a photocopy of a lee harvey oswald ss card sent to arthur green stein by nagell with 4 Oswald signatures under it. there's a one-page appendix on page 731 that talks about the various oswald cards nagell had

old edition

here you go:

When his car trunk was examined (at his suggestion), authorities found a number of most interesting items. Unfortunately, the majority of these were never formally entered into the record and most were not returned to Nagell after his conviction for bank robbery was eventually overturned.

The items that are available are amazingly similar to items also in the possession of Lee Oswald. They include:

(1) One miniature Minolta camera and developing kit.

(2) Fair Play for Cuba leaflets.

(3) The P.O. Box for the Fair Play for Cuba committee in New Orleans, Louisiana. The committee which had only one member. Lee Oswald.

(4) Cuban and Communist literature including the Case against Cuba by Corless Lament, one of the documents also being used in New Orleans by Lee Oswald.

(5) A notebook containing the unlisted telephone number of the Cuban embassy, the same number as found in Oswald's notebook.

(6) The notebook also contained names of individuals who would much later be identified as CIA personnel from its Los Angles office. (The names were submitted by the FBI to the CIA in October '63 and eventually verified by the CIA as being names of actual employees)

In addition, the trial files for Richard Nagell also contain an identification card, the card being a military ID with Nagell's photo and the name and signature of Lee H. Oswald.

more:

John Simkin: Is there official documentation of what was found in Nagell’s car? If so, it seems to be an important factor in understanding what was going on in 1963.

Larry Hancock: There is only partial documentation on the contents of Nagell's car, the items which I discuss in my book were listed on the second page of an FBI report and the first page seems to have vanished. Dick Russell could not find the detailed property reports in the court records nor was there a personal property report e.g. wallet, contents of wallet etc. What is documented is very suggestive but its worth noting that Nagell made continued efforts to get all the personal and car property back to aid in his defense and that was repeatedly denied. In fact only part of it was ever returned and that was many years later as part of his personal law suit.

John Simkin: Has there been confirmation of the warning about the assassination of JFK that Nagell sent to the FBI? This fits in with other evidence that suggests someone was trying to tell the FBI about a possible assassination attempt on JFK. Judyth Baker also claims that Oswald was working with someone else in the team to undermine the assassination. Could that have been Nagell?

Larry Hancock: There is no direct confirmation of a warning letter to Hoover, the only circumstantial points tending to confirm it are covered in the book including the special questions for the very early interview of Marina Oswald - questions sent from FBI HQ that could indicate that Hoover did indeed have an advance warning from Nagell specifically about Oswald.