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Emory Roberts' son ended up at MSU as Director of the Institute for Public Policy and Social Research.
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2013/11/remembrance_msu_leaders_dad_wa.html
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David!
Welcome back
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Much appreciated Robin. That does indeed appear to be MacNeil.
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From Robert MacNeil's Oral History for the Sixth Floor, 4/16/2004:
On what became known as the grassy knoll, a couple is sitting there and bending over a child, as though they’re protecting it with their bodies. And then I saw some people start running up the grassy knoll, including policemen. So I thought, “Oh, well they’re chasing the gunman.” So I ran with them up the grassy knoll. I’ve seen film of me running up there, which has since disappeared. But anyway, I got to the top of the grassy knoll at the fence, and by this time there are several people along the fence, and policemen, and everybody’s looking around and finally one of the policemen goes over the fence.
I am far from an expert on the photographic evidence. Is MacNeil seen running in any known film?
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Altgens and his wife died in 1995.
New York Times obit:
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/A Disk/Altgens James/Item 07.pdf
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Trask Interview with Mrs. Jan Bothun, 11/26/84 (Pictures of the Pain pg.155):
Mrs. Bothun recalled that her husband was very shocked at the sight of the President being hit in the head and that he had been close enough to hear Mrs. Kennedy “holler.”
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Frank Ellsworth perhaps?
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Link doesn't work, Jim.
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Thanks Bart. Much appreciated. Especially the Molina and Allman stuff.
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I feel obligated to update this.
Chief of Police just released a statement saying the shooting was the work of 2 snipers. 11 officers shot. 3 have passed on.
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Talk floating around that this was potentially the work of a sniper.
One man said, "I thought it was fireworks."
As we look at the TSBD in the background.
Unreal.
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Is anyone else watching CNN?
Main Street is flooded with police. Active shooter. Scene looks to be about a block from the TSBD.
Two officers confirmed shot. Unconfirmed reports of up to six injured officers. Witnesses reported at least 20 shots.
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Now even Trump is chiming in on this.
From the article:
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.”
“I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.”Edit: Brian beet me to it by one minute! lol
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And an article from The Miami Herald:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html
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Apparently the National Enquirer has decided to run with this.
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Thanks Tommy!
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More from the 7/13/2013 interview:
(When asked why he has been reluctant to share his story over the years) "Well, when this all happened, I was terrified. And, some people believe in a conspiracy, and some don't. Well, you can believe whatever you like. This is America. But I knew that if there was people behind this, you'd best keep silent. Not go around talking. Because I didn't want anything to happen to my family."
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Tommy,
That is very interesting! Do you recall anything else about what Johnson's daughter said? When she posted here, was her last name Johnson?
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Frazier repeats his claim of seeing Oswald after 12:30 in this interview recorded by the Sixth Floor on 7/13/2013.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?313792-1/lee-harvey-oswald-kennedy-assassination
Comments begin at the 34:30 mark.
(When asked if he saw Oswald after the shooting) "I did. This was, oh, I don't know exactly how many minutes later, but the lady I was standing next to - some of the people - Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady - they went down toward the Triple Underpass. Because before they went down there, a lady come by - a woman came by - and she was crying and she said that somebody has shot the President. And so, we looked bewildered, and I turned to Sarah and she said 'She said somebody has shot the President.' And I said 'I thought that's what she said.' She said 'She did say that.' So we stood there for a few minutes and I walked down to the first step where Billy was standing down there at the bottom of the steps. I looked around and it was just total chaos there. And then from there I started to go down to see if I could find Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady. And there was so much chaos down there I said, 'Well I better go back to where - back to the steps. And I did. I walked back to the bottom of the steps and then I walked out to the corner of the building right there where Houston comes up the side of the building. And I was talking to someone - it was a lady - and I looked to my left and come walking along the side of the Texas Schoolbook building was Lee Oswald."
Moderator Stephen Fagin: "Walking along this side of the building? Houston Street?"
Frazier: "Yes. Yes. Houston Street. So he'd come around from off the dock there. So he walks up, and I'm talking to this lady. He didn't say anything. And he crosses Houston. I watch him cross Houston as I was talking to the lady. And he gets over to the other side of Houston and then he crosses Elm. And somebody said something to me and I turned - and he was about halfway across the street - and when I turned back he was gone in the crowd. I don't know what happened to him."
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Ron, Dave Powers stayed on for a year as well.
And I agree with Mark. I don't see it.
This one is right up there with Jackie pulling the trigger for me.
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Mob hitman who says he was the man on the grassy knoll and killed JFK to be released - and he still insists he did it
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http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do?mode=searchResult&id=3184
DEAN, PATRICK TREVORE (SGT.)
Dallas Police Sgt. Friend of Jack Ruby. Dean gave contradictory accounts. Died 8/13/88 in Tyler, Texas. Survived by wife Shirley Dean of Tyler, daughter Tivilla Hoff of Dallas, sons Darrell and Tony of Tyler. Wife supposed to have been daughter of O. P. Wright of Parkland Hospital. O. P. Wright's second wife was Elizabeth Good, nurse who came to Parkland from Florida shortly before Assassination.
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I just got off the phone with Ms. McKinnon and she refused to discuss the assassination with me.
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The name and more details will come in the future Paul. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything at this point, but I did feel obligated to share.
Was There Anyone Inside The TSBD Who Said They Didn't Hear Any Shots?
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
Edna Case
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Statement to FBI, 11/23/63 (CD5, pg.431)At the time the President’s motorcade passed, she advised she was on the third floor of the building at her desk. She stated that she was looking out the west side of the building and not the front. She said she had not heard the shots.