Josh Cron

Summers was the producer for this program Jim, according to the credits at the end.

Thanks for posting Douglas. Had not been able to watch that until now. Some very interesting interviews are included in the program.

Press conference from Boston Police now says the fire at the library was started by an explosion, and they are investigating as if it is indeed related.

MSNBC just reported that the fire at the library is not believed to be suspicious, and is likely not related to the bombings.

No articles or details yet. Saw it on MSNBC that there is a fire at the JFK Library in Boston. No word on if it is related to the bombings.

Sorry. I forogt to add this bit that appears at the end of McCully's 3/19/64 statement to the FBI:

Miss McCully advised that when she was previously interviewed by FBI Agents on November 24, 1963, she recalls telling them she was standing on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository watching the Presidential motorcade pass by the building; however, she stated she wished to clarify this point by stating she was actually standing on the steps of the main entrance to building and immediately following the shooting returned to the fourth floor.

There is no mention of McCully in Avery Davis' original 11/23/63 FBI Report. She does not mention standing with McCully until her second known description of the day's events which she gave to the Dallas Sheriff's Department on 2/18/64.

FBI Report, 11/24/63 (CD5 pg.432)

On November 22, 1963, McCully was watching the Presidential Procession from the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building and just after the Presidential Car had passed the building, she heard a noise, which she thought to be a shooting. She did not know from which direction the shot was fired. At that time, she did not observe any suspicious activity on the part of anyone in the Texas School Book Depository Building, or among the persons in front of this building.

Dallas Police Department Report, 2/18/64 (box3folder19file13)

Miss McCully stated that on November 22, 1963, she and Mrs. Avery Davis were standing on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository at 12:30 PM, and were watching the Presidential parade. She saw the President's car go by, and as the car proceeded down toward the triple underpass, she heard three shots. The shots sounded like they came from the right side of the building in the arcade.

Statement to FBI, 3/19/64 (22H663)

On November 22, 1963 at approximately 12:35 P.M. I was standing on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building with Mrs. Charles Davis, also an employee of Scott-Foresman, to watch the motorcade bearing President John F. Kennedy pass by the building. As the motorcade passed, I heard some shots fired, but did not know the direction from which they came.

What are we to make of this??

Interesting interview with Mac Kilduff from the 28th anniversery on a program called "The Hensley Report". Apparently he subscribed to the notion Oswald was trying to kill Connally and not President Kennedy.

Nevermind. This information appears to have origniated from Vince Palamara.

Does anyone know the name of Kellerman's daughter?

Can anyone tell me where this information (from Kellerman's Spartacus Educational entry) originated?

Kellerman's daughter told Harold Weisberg in the 1970's that "I hope the day will come when these men (Kellerman and Greer) will be able to say what they've told their families". After Roy Kellerman's death, his widow reported that her husband was convinced that there had been a conspiracy to kill Kennedy.

According to the Youtube uploader, the footage comes from WBAP.

Thanks a bunch Robert. Just downloaded my copies of Galanor's Cover-Up and Forgive My Grief V.1. Looking forward to volumes three and four.

Does anyone have any information on what possible Dealey Plaza eyewitness Gary Campbell told Jones?

I know Penn Jones interviewed him at one point, but am unaware of where, if at all, this information appeared in print.

Thanks

That is the only relevant passage on the subject in the book. I can only speculate, but I imagine this occured before the assassination. One wonders though, why point the man out to the police before the assassination? Obviously this would be before the sixth floor, or even the depository, had been singled out as the gunman's location. So what stood out about this man that it warranted police attention?

From page 5 of "Tina Towner: My Story as the Youngest Photographer at the Kennedy Assassination":

In our oral history recorded by the Museum in March 1996, Daddy stated that most of the windows in the TSBD had the shades pulled down. He also stated, as he had stated several times over the years to family and friends, that he told a uniformed police officer standing next to him that he saw a man in a white coat standing in a sixth floor window. Several times over the decades, Daddy repeated that the police officer saw this person, too.

Does anyone else find Frazier's HSCA interview to be as bizarre as I do? Frazier doesn't even make sense half the time.

http://www.reopenken...collection.html

I'm not through reading the transcript yet, but of particualr interest so far (from pages 6, 7, and 8 of tape 3):

Moriarty: Now, at this time when they had you in, uh, briefly in Irving - did they tell you that they had Oswald?

Frazier: No, they didn't tell me that.

Moriarty: When was the first time that you found out that Oswald was, uh, was a patsy?

Frazier: Uh, I found that out, uh - I found that out, uh - let's see, either right before I went over to Dallas. Or when I worked over in Dallas. In other words, they didn't tell me right at first.

Moriarty: Hm-hmm.

Frazier: But they knew that I had worked at the Texas School Book Depository.

Moriarty: Hm-hmm.

Frazier: And I told 'em that, uh, that while I was there, uh - well, I - since they let me go home and didn't even phone me, you know, and they, uh, figured I was foolish, you know, and, uh, that's what I was.

Moriarty: Now, they knew Oswald at that time?

Frazier: No, they were interested in the stem.

Moriary: The stem. They knew the (sports) before - while you were going to school.

Frazier: Hm-hmm.

Moriarty: You had it then. Did you see anybody to get that?

Frazier: No, I couldn't see where, uh -

Moriarty: Couldn't see.

Frazier: Couldn't see from the stem to the crown.

Moriarty: Right.

Frazier: And, uh, it seemed was a - I heard the shots.

Moriarty: Right.

Frazier: And I didn't think that, uh, from the shots - the people (parading) or they, uh - where they - people there in Texas.

Moriarty: Alright. Now, you're still there at the window?

Frazier: Yes.

Moriarty: Did you go back in the building? Or did you continue to watch what was happening on the street?

Frazier: No, I stood outside. I stood where I could see there.

Moriarty: Alright. After the shots.

Frazier: I stood there. As I say, we'd go there for a good while.

Moriarty: And when you were shown that effect - did the people who are - are our leads - were they with you at that time?

Frazier: It was made from being a down from being a little peep.

Moriarty: But they didn't mean to down that.

Frazier: No, they didn't mean to down it. But, uh, I didn't really knew that, uh, I didn't find out things that - this entirely. Uh, I didn't have any idea.

Moriarty: Hm-hmm.

Frazier: And seen that expression with, uh, I went from a, uh, former pal to being a nerd from Seattle. And I found out things where they lied - where they - they, uh-

Moriarty: Hm-hmm.

Frazier: They, uh - they, uh - they come from an active bid. So they went down afterwards and - to urinate and they come down for, you know, the police station. They, you know, they couldn't really - couldn't verify. So I found out their names.

Moriarty: Right. So you found out they were from Houston - their names. Was anybody that - anybody who would know when they followed - when they followed you down off the boarding of the train, would they - have you ever been victimized? Or the boarding of the train was like -

Frazier: Uh, I'm not sure of the time when, uh, the people would be coming around, people in the military - and things were in the military -

Moriarty: Hm-hmm. Where I was interested is the time you said that the police officers ran out of the Book Depository and were going somewhere else?

Frazier: You know, uh, actually that's the earliest. I could, you know - the shots was fired. Then the policemen run over.

Moriarty: Hm-hmm.

Frazier: You know, uh, the policemen go in the building, you know and, uh, they was all out there on that little side street right in front of the building and, you know that they was there 'cause they was - they seemed like they was everywhere. And you could actually say they - they knew the policemen that followed.

Moriarty: Hm-hmm.

Frazier: And then they all pointed out that he did it.

Moriarty: And that was after you had, uh - that you went to Irving.

Frazier: Hm-hmm.

Moriarty: This is after - you knew at that time - you knew that Oswald was being -

Frazier: Framed.

Moriarty: Did you suspect that they had that in mind?

Frazier: Uh, no. I didn't, uh - when I came home and all - we're all in - in the same room as I am sitting like this, you know? You know?

Moriarty: You asked what happened?

Frazier: I was, uh - I did knew that, uh, when it happened, you know, I was just sitting there. I was thinking that I would get fired for it. And, you know - they had the Bay of Pigs, you know? Where I think that if the Warren Commission - I think that if, uh... (either the tape or transcript cuts out at this point)

See what I mean? Bizarre. And half of it doesn't make sense. The parts about Frazier acknowledging Oswald's patsy-status and stating Oswald was being framed are clear enough though.

It's almost as if the transcript was messed up somehow. Or perhaps the tape in the archives is of poor quality and this transcript only provides the parts that are distinguishable. I can't seem to wrap my mind around this one.

Thanks for posting Bernice.

The fingerprints removed from "a curtain rod" are interesting. No indication of where the curtain rod was found. Are they from something removed from the Paine's or Oswald's homes? Or are these fingerprints from the mysterious lost curtain rods?

Why would a larger casket be required for a man who was still alive? He takes up the same amount of space dead or alive.

Phillips' source for this account of Pate's actions is almost certinaly from Pate's interview with HSCA investiagors Joseph Basteri and Albert Maxwell conducted in 1978.

Mary Woodward and her friends spring to mind. Hugh Aynesworth was at the southeast corner of Elm and Houston, and Pierce Allman at the southwest corner. Then there is the case of Norman Similas, though I have my doubts about his story.

Jay Watson, Jerry Haynes, Jim Featherstone, and Dan Rather were near the plaza, though technically not in it. Although, who really knows where Rather was when the shots were fired.

Also, in the original Unsolved Texas Mysteries story, Coley says when he was interviewed by the FBI that they were the ones who first brought up the blood story to him. And he was confused about how they had known about it, as he says he, nor Mulkey or Hood, had mentioned the blood to anyone.

But in the Black Op Radio interview, Coley says he brings up the blood on the steps to the FBI.

From Unsolved Texas Mysteries (1992), in which Coley's story orginally appeared:

As Coley and Mulkey emerged from behind the top of the knoll and started down the hill, they noticed a large pool - more than a pint - of a dark red substance on the steps that led down to Elm Street.

“What do ya’ suppose that is?” Coley asked.

“Maybe somebody spilled a cold drink,” Charlie answered as he bent over and dipped a finger into the liquid. “My God, Jerry,” he exclaimed, “that’s blood.”

Now, from an interview with Coley on Black Op Radio in 2011:

Down, when I got nearly to the fence, a policeman in brown - we called them county mounties in Dallas - at that time, stopped me, and he had a shotgun. And Charlie was behind me. And he said, “Where do you guys think you’re going?” We said we were going back to where all these people were running, which was back towards the fence and this parking lot, that area on top of the grassy knoll. He told us to get the hell out of there, so Charlie, I guess, left me at that point. I don’t know where he went. (end quote)

In this interview, it is now Coley who discovers the pool of blood all by his lonesome, and Jim Hood who dips his finger in the blood to taste it.

Perhaps it is due to Coley's aging and losing bits of memory from that day, or perhaps the authors of Unsolved Texas Mysteries got it wrong in the first place, but none-the-less the inconsistencies are there.

I don't believe it is included in any of the Commission or FBI materials. Is that correct?

Ahh, yes. That makes sense. Thanks Greg.

Now, can anyone tell me where to find Volume 1 of the Texas Attorney General's report?

I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread where members can ask questions that are easy to answer and don't really require their own thread.

I'll start:

In the document linked to below, on page 3, can anyone tell me what the citation is after the entries for Judith McCulley and Lupe Whitaker? It looks like TAG1. Maybe I'm just having a brain fart, but for the life of me I cannot think of what this is referring to.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/L%20Disk/Liddell%20Andrew/Item%2010.pdf

Thanks for your help.