Joseph McBride

Hi Joseph, I have merely followed the evidence to where it leads in the JFK & Tippit cases -- and that evidence leads to only one man....a man you have (incredibly) "exonerated" in your book, Lee H. Oswald. Which means you think ALL the physical evidence in the case is phony. And such a belief is just not a reasonable one, IMO. Re: Black Dog Man --- http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/black-dog-man.html

Hi Joseph, I have merely followed the evidence to where it leads in the JFK & Tippit cases -- and that evidence leads to only one man....a man you have (incredibly) "exonerated" in your book, Lee H. Oswald. Which means you think ALL the physical evidence in the case is phony. And such a belief is just not a reasonable one, IMO. Re: Black Dog Man --- http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/black-dog-man.html

I don't want to get into a long debate with you, David, because from what i've read here, you are wedded to your lone-nut theory and don't seem to want to consider others. But if you would read my book, you'll see that part of my very detailed discussion of this photo and the blowup is the fact that the HSCA Photographic Panel concluded in studying the various photos and films of the figure behind the retaining wall that the figure as it appears in Willis No. 5 was indeed a human being. That figure is the same as Badge Man, in my view, though I think the HSCA contradicts itself by claiming the Moorman photo was too underexposed in that region to enable it to find evidence of a person. The panel said a person is visible behind the retaining wall in the Zapruder film. And there is other evidence of Badge Man.

Chris, The officer firing in the Badge Man photo is wearing the regulation DPD patch on his left arm, but it does not appear there is a cross in it, although that can't be ruled out. I know there has been discussion of the meaning of crosses on other officers' uniforms, ranging from rightwing identification marks to first-aid certification marks. Other than possibly the pictures of Badge Man, who was photographed several times, there are no known pictures of Tippit in uniform on 11/22/63.

Yes, there will be a Kindle edition soon available on Amazon.com as well as the paperback.

Vince Palamara, whose groundbreaking work on the Secret Service and medical aspects of the assassination has been so important to our understanding of the events of November 22, 1963, posted this review on Amazon.com of my book INTO THE NIGHTMARE: MY SEARCH FOR THE KILLERS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY AND OFFICER J. D. TIPPIT: A Master Work! July 23, 2013 By Vince Palamara Every once in a while, a book comes along that is not merely a book, a good book, or even, for that matter, a great book, but what I am fond of calling a master work. "Into The Nightmare" by Joseph McBride is just such a rare commodity: a master work on the assassination that is very well written (even poetic at times), thought provoking, and well researched. Clearly, the author is passionate about both President Kennedy (having met the man several times in younger days) and his tragic assassination. This passion comes through, loud and clear, on every page, but without the shrill tone common in many books on this subject. In short, this volume was written with loving care, encompassing every facet of the case, including the murder of police officer J.D. Tippit, an area that usually receives short shrift in the literature of the assassination. Along with other such master works as Jim Douglass "JFK & The Unspeakable" and Doug Horne's 5-volume"Inside The ARRB", McBride's book is an essential purchase and essential reading. This one is a keeper; a book you will refer back to again and again. They don't make them like this very often. Get this very fine volume asap- you'll be glad you did.

Chris, That possibility is indeed explored at length in INTO THE NIGHTMARE, including in Chapter 15, "'Badge Man.'"

And a column today with a somewhat differing perspective on the book and assassination research by Doug Moe of my old paper, The Wisconsin State Journal, Madison: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/columnists/doug-moe/doug-moe-joe-mcbride-goes-public-with-private-obsession-about/article_a4dd7368-301b-5f20-88ba-dd32f93d59bf.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/an-interview-with-joseph-mcbride-on-his-new-jfk-book-into-the-nightmare-part-1 Part one of my interview with assassination expert and ace reporter Joe Green.

Pat, It's not a pain to be asked good questions. Other researchers and journalists have speculated from December 1963 that Tippit may have been tracking down Oswald. I studied the frantic actions of Tippit as reported by Earl Golz, Greg Lowrey, and other researchers. Tippit clearly gave signs of hunting for a man. I had a revealing interview with Edgar Lee Tippit, the father of the late officer. The elder Tippit was a lively ninety when I interviewed him. He revealed to me that after his son's death, another Dallas police officer went to J. D.'s widow, Marie, and told her he and J. D. had been sent by the police to hunt down Oswald. Whether this was to capture him or kill him is not certain, but the evidence indicates that the latter is a strong possibility. This was at a time when Oswald's identity was not officially known to the DPD, although there is evidence indicating they knew about him and had fingered him as the patsy. The other officer told Marie that he had not made it to the scene of the shooting because he became involved in an auto accident. This story had never been reported before, and Edgar Lee Tippit had never been interviewed. I found evidence that there was an auto accident near the time and place of the Tippit shooting. I studied the police dispatch tapes, FBI reports, HSCA interviews, and other documents to ascertain the movements of other officers around Oak Cliff. I had the first interview by a researcher with Tippit witness T. F. Bowley. Other policemen were behaving suspiciously in Oak Cliff besides Tippit. I believe another policeman or perhaps two policeman and probably a civilian as well were involved in the shooting of Tippit. I go into great detail on all this in the book and offer a wealth of evidence. I identify possible suspects in both shootings and exonerate others, including Oswald. Edgar Lee Tippit also provided me with other important information about his son, who in other books has been a mostly shadowy figure. I also had candid interviews with, among other people, Tippit's mistress Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon, his rightwing employer Austin Cook, and Detective James Leavelle, who headed the "investigation" of the Tippit killing. There is much new material in the book, partly because I worked on it for more than thirty years. Hi, Joe, Congradulations on your new book, and I'm interested in your book on baseball lingo, because I wrote a simlar book on golf history and terminology, "Birth of the Birdie." I'm also interested in your research on the Tippit murder, and wonder if you got to talk to Mike Robinson or Frank Martin's son, both of whom seem to have stumbled onto some Tippit murder witnesses at Dallas Police HQ. Did you talk to these guys? JFKCountercoup2: The Hardy Boys in Dallas Also curious about Wes Wise and the Carl Mather story, and if you checked into any of that? Thanks, Bill Kelly Hi, Bill, I've appreciated your posts on this site. Thanks for asking too about my first book, HIGH AND INSIDE: AN A-TO-Z GUIDE TO THE LANGUAGE OF BASEBALL, which I started writing in May 1963. It's a sentimental favorite of mine because I was a kid when I started writing it. That's fascinating that you wrote a similar one on golf. I will check it out. I used to be a golf caddie so have some interest in that sport, even though I was a terrible golfer. I didn't include that story about the men's room in INTO THE NIGHTMARE because it seems dubious to me for a number of reasons, including the hypnosis element. I do have a section in INTO THE NIGHTMARE on the important Carl Mather story.

Thomas, The other police car at the scene was reported by witnesses Doris Holan and Sam Guinyard. Witness Virginia Davis seemed to suggest that other policemen were present immediately after the shooting. I study and analyze in detail in the book the very complex pattern of witness reports. Butch Burroughs probably was correct about Oswald being in the theater earlier than the official story has it. The exact time he arrived is not entirely certain. Burroughs said he entered at about 1 p.m. or minutes after. But Earlene Roberts said Oswald was at the rooming house until about 1:04. So Burroughs may have been off by some minutes. The official record shows that a suspect was reported in the theater at 1:46. It's always been a question where Oswald was between 1:04 and 1:46. Burroughs seems a credible witness.

A new interview about my book INTO THE NIGHTMARE by Ray Kelly of Masslive.com and the Springfield (MA) Republican: http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/07/into_the_nightmare_probes_john.html#incart_river

In retrospect (many years later), couldn't the words "hunt down Oswald" easily be interpreted as "keep a watchful eye out for the slender white male who just shot President Kennedy"?Knowing the evidence and the witness testimony in the Tippit murder case as I do, I feel that the latter interpretation of any "hunt down Oswald" remark that anyone might have made after 11/22/63 is almost certainly the correct explanation. Therefore, Joseph, you must then believe that the TWELVE or so witnesses who positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald were either all lying or they innocently identified a perfect-looking Oswald double as the one and only gunman who killed J.D. Tippit or as the one and only man who was fleeing the scene of the shooting on foot with a gun in his hand. Correct?Why do you disregard the two bullet shells found by the Davis girls at 10th & Patton (which they turned over to DPD Detectives Doughty and Dhority on Nov. 22)? Those shells have a clean and firm chain of custody. So even if a person wants to toss aside the "Poe shells", the Davis shells cannot be dismissed in the same manner. Those shells were marked by each DPD officer. And they were fired in Oswald's revolver "to the exclusion". And that revolver was in Oswald's hands when he was arrested while trying to kill more policemen with that same gun. Based on the evidence, there's no possible way Oswald can be innocent. And here's why: JFK-Archives/The Murder Of J.D. Tippit Excerpt from above article: "What makes Oswald's guilt in the Tippit murder EXTRA convincing (vs. "unconvincing") is the fact that there are multiple types of evidence to convict him -- including direct (eyewitness) testimony which corroborates and buttresses the physical evidence left behind by Oswald at the scene of the crime (i.e., the eyewitnesses fingered OSWALD -- and the bullet shells found at the crime scene were fired in OSWALD'S revolver -- and OSWALD himself had the murder weapon in his own hands just 35 minutes after Tippit was killed, with OSWALD himself acting like a very guilty man in the theater). The melding together of that much eyewitness testimony, circumstantial evidence, and physical evidence (the bullet shells on Tenth Street) doesn't occur in a great number of murder cases. But in the Tippit case, it did occur. And Oswald was nice enough to KEEP THE MURDER WEAPON IN HIS POSSESSION right after the crime too, which is a huge asset when it comes to solving the murder of Officer Tippit. The only possible way for Oswald to be innocent of Tippit's murder is if LHO's identical twin had actually shot Tippit with LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S gun, and then the identical twin (or exact look-alike) was somehow able to get Oswald himself to take possession of Revolver V510210 prior to his arrest in the Texas Theater. And even that ridiculous scenario wouldn't really explain why Oswald, just thirty-five minutes after J.D. Tippit had been shot with LHO's Smith & Wesson revolver, was behaving like a very guilty person when the police approached him inside the Texas Theater on November 22, 1963. Conspiracy theorists are experts at making up excuses to EXPLAIN AWAY all the evidence that exists against Lee Harvey Oswald in both the JFK and Tippit murder cases. But unless the CTers really want to believe that all of the eyewitnesses who identified Oswald were totally wrong AND that all of the physical evidence in the Tippit case was manufactured by the authorities to frame a man named Lee Oswald, then the conspiracy theorists really have nowhere to go with their persistent arguments that Oswald was innocent of killing J.D. Tippit." -- David Von Pein; January 10, 2012 Hi, David, Thanks for your questions. I think you will find a great detail of supporting evidence and detail in INTO THE NIGHTMARE: MY SEARCH FOR THE KILLERS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY AND OFFICER J. D. TIPPIT that will clarify all these points for you. But briefly, here are answers to the questions you raise. The Warren Report relied mostly on ballistics evidence to claim that Oswald killed Tippit, but that evidence was a mess. An FBI expert testified that the bullets could not be linked to the shells allegedly found at the scene and entered into evidence. The chain of evidence on three of the four bullets was seriously flawed. The shells were not in fact marked at the scene by the police, as Detective James Leavelle admitted to me. Three of the bullets suspiciously turned up in the dead files of the Dallas Police Department long after the fact. Evidence suggests the bullets entered into evidence were planted. Other shells found at the scene were not entered into evidence. Officers reported an automatic was used; Oswald was said to have a revolver. As for the witnesses, some (actually nine) indeed identified Oswald as the shooter or a man fleeing from the scene. But Helen Markham, the star witness, was hysterical and hopelessly confused. She may not have even seen the shooting. The closest witness, Domingo Benavides, wouldn't identify Oswald as the shooter and was not brought to view a lineup. Benavides only identified Oswald years later on TV after his brother was shot and killed. An extraordinary amount of violence and intimidation surrounded Tippit witnesses, a sign of the extreme sensitivity of that part of the case, which David Belin called its "Rosetta stone." The llneups from which some witnesses identified Oswald were tainted because it was obvious Oswald was the designated suspect at those showings. Ten witnesses who saw parts of the events would not identify Oswald as the shooter or the man fleeing. Other witnesses said other men were involved in the shooting. Suspicious vehicles, including another police car, were seen at the scene. It is likely Oswald was not even there. I identify likely suspects in the shooting, including one or two Dallas police officers. I exonerate other suspects, including Oswald. I demolish the weak case brought by the DPD against Oswald in the Tippit shooting and do so with the help of the lead detective, Leavelle, whom I grilled closely. He admitted many of the flaws in the case. Former DA Henry Wade, whom I interviewed, similarly admitted to me the flaws in the case against Oswald for allegedly shooting Kennedy. These key law enforcement men were not able to marshal convincing evidence against Oswald when I questioned them in close detail. Wade told the Warren Commission that as early as November 23, he "felt like nearly it was a hopeless case" against Oswald for shooting Kennedy. He told the commission, "I wasn't sure I was going to take a complaint." And Wade admitted to me, "I probably made a lot of mistakes." Oswald did not try to shoot a policeman at the theater. An FBI expert testified there was no dent on the cartridge in the gun that supposedly had misfired. So you are placing credence on what Oswald correctly called "so-called evidence" that is easy to discredit. Also, as I am sure you know, Oswald could not have walked from his rooming house in Oak Cliff in time to shoot Tippit. The Tippit shooting took place at 1:09, or a minute earlier, and Oswald was seen at his rooming house nine-tenths of a mile away at about 1:04. The Warren Report distorts the time of the shooting to prove its dubious case. I conducted the first interview by a researcher with T. F. Bowley, who said he came upon the dead officer at 1:10. Oswald could only have been at the Tippit shooting scene if he had been driven there, and that seems unlikely. As for the police dispatch describing the suspect, that was vague and could have applied to thousands of men in Dallas. Tippit was given more explicit instructions, not by the regular police radio, to find Oswald. This is backed up by a variety of sources and evidence. You also know that the police radio did contain odd instructions singling out Tippit to be at large in Oak Cliff for a possible emergency. I propose alternate theories of the Tippit shooting and back them up with eyewitness and other evidence. I also bring forward some new evidence in the Kennedy shooting. I hope you read the book with an open mind.

Pat, It's not a pain to be asked good questions. Other researchers and journalists have speculated from December 1963 that Tippit may have been tracking down Oswald. I studied the frantic actions of Tippit as reported by Earl Golz, Greg Lowrey, and other researchers. Tippit clearly gave signs of hunting for a man. I had a revealing interview with Edgar Lee Tippit, the father of the late officer. The elder Tippit was a lively ninety when I interviewed him. He revealed to me that after his son's death, another Dallas police officer went to J. D.'s widow, Marie, and told her he and J. D. had been sent by the police to hunt down Oswald. Whether this was to capture him or kill him is not certain, but the evidence indicates that the latter is a strong possibility. This was at a time when Oswald's identity was not officially known to the DPD, although there is evidence indicating they knew about him and had fingered him as the patsy. The other officer told Marie that he had not made it to the scene of the shooting because he became involved in an auto accident. This story had never been reported before, and Edgar Lee Tippit had never been interviewed. I found evidence that there was an auto accident near the time and place of the Tippit shooting. I studied the police dispatch tapes, FBI reports, HSCA interviews, and other documents to ascertain the movements of other officers around Oak Cliff. I had the first interview by a researcher with Tippit witness T. F. Bowley. Other policemen were behaving suspiciously in Oak Cliff besides Tippit. I believe another policeman or perhaps two policeman and probably a civilian as well were involved in the shooting of Tippit. I go into great detail on all this in the book and offer a wealth of evidence. I identify possible suspects in both shootings and exonerate others, including Oswald. Edgar Lee Tippit also provided me with other important information about his son, who in other books has been a mostly shadowy figure. I also had candid interviews with, among other people, Tippit's mistress Johnnie Maxie Witherspoon, his rightwing employer Austin Cook, and Detective James Leavelle, who headed the "investigation" of the Tippit killing. There is much new material in the book, partly because I worked on it for more than thirty years.

I knew Mary Ferrell, though not very well, and I know of absolutely no reason why she should be considered a disinformation agent. And what is so great about Penn Jones? As for the accusation that JD Tippit was a wannabe murderer, I say innocent until proven guilty. http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/A-Personal-Journey-into-th-by-Joseph-Green-130716-953.html I knew Mary Ferrell, though not very well, and I know of absolutely no reason why she should be considered a disinformation agent. And what is so great about Penn Jones? As for the accusation that JD Tippit was a wannabe murderer, I say innocent until proven guilty. http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/A-Personal-Journey-into-th-by-Joseph-Green-130716-953.html Raymond, My personal dealings with Mary Ferrell quickly alerted me to her duplicity. My investigative reporter's instincts for a phony quickly kicked in, and I began investigating her background and MO. I go into this in detail in the book and can only summarize it here. I concluded that she was what fellow Tippit researcher Greg Lowrey called "The Gatekeeper," the person delegated by the U.S. government to keep tabs on what genuine researchers and others were doing. She doled out documents and other information to maintain the facade of being a researcher, but she had intelligence connections and spread disinformation. She also actively disliked John F. Kennedy. Penn Jones warned me to stay away from her. He was a great journalist who was a maverick and was on the case from the first weekend. He turned up many important leads for the rest of us to follow. He made some mistakes and was sometimes sloppy. But he was intrepid, fearless, shrewd, and hard-digging. He was an inspiration to me and many others and was a mentor to me and a friend.

The answer to your first question would be that in my extensive research, which included rare interviews with key people in Texas and archival discoveries, I was able to demonstrate that Officer J. D. Tippit was hunting for Oswald for the last twenty-four minutes of Tippit's life. This proves that Tippit was involved in the conspiracy, because Oswald's identity was not officially known to the Dallas Police Department at the time. Other researchers have theorized that Tippit may have been doing this, but I uncover proof that Tippit was pursuing Oswald to capture or perhaps kill him. Tippit was racing around Oak Cliff increasingly frantically, and another officer was also involved in the pursuit. While exonerating Oswald and other suspects in the shooting, I point to possible suspects and believe that two, three, or even four men were involved. In summer 2010, I and a friend went to the exact spot of the Tippit slaying. We sat parked in the car in Tippit's exact spot as an old Hispanic man walked by. We called him over to to passenger window of my friend. I asked him, a man in his mid 70's, what do you know about the Tippit shooting? The first words out of his mouth were there were 2 people involved in the shooting of Tippit. This man said he had been living in this exact neighborhood in November, 1963. He did not say he had actually witnessed the shooting. But the first thing he said was that there were 2 people involved in the shooting of Officer Tippit; apparently this was common knowledge in this neighborhood at the time. After that, I decided to time exactly how long it would take to walk from Oswald's room house on North Beckley to 10th and Patten. It took me 11 minutes and 5 seconds and I was power walking at a very fast rate, as fast as I could walk and not be jogging or running, plus I was cutting corners, walking in the middle of the street, not waiting for red lights, etc. Then I walked back to North Beckley and it took me 10 minutes and 25 seconds, again power walking as fast as I could in a straight line back to Oswald's house. At the time I was a 46 year old man in reasonably good physical condition. Hello, Robert, I wish I knew the name of that witness. I didn't mention him in the book because the story hasn't been verified. But I have also walked that route frequently, and it is obvious Oswald couldn't have walked from his rooming house to the scene of the Tippit shooting in time to fire the shots. The shooting probably occurred at 1:09, earlier than the Warren Commission has it. I have found evidence that two, three, or even four men were involved. The ballistics alone exonerate Oswald, and the Warren Report relied almost entirely on the ballistics, since Helen Markham was so unreliable. The only way Oswald could have been at the scene would have been if he was driven there, but I find that unlikely. There were suspicious vehicles at the scene, including another police car.

Hi, Sean, Oswald was in the second-floor lunchroom at the time of the shooting. After he left the building, he seems to have been driven to Oak Cliff in the station wagon seen by Roger Craig and photographed at 12:40.

Thanks for having me, John. I have learned a lot from this fine site and its erudite posters over the years. It's been a boon to my long research on INTO THE NIGHTMARE. I am glad the Forum is back in business! I am happy to be asked to answer questions and exchange thoughts with the other members.

The answer to your first question would be that in my extensive research, which included rare interviews with key people in Texas and archival discoveries, I was able to demonstrate that Officer J. D. Tippit was hunting for Oswald for the last twenty-four minutes of Tippit's life. This proves that Tippit was involved in the conspiracy, because Oswald's identity was not officially known to the Dallas Police Department at the time. Other researchers have theorized that Tippit may have been doing this, but I uncover proof that Tippit was pursuing Oswald to capture or perhaps kill him. Tippit was racing around Oak Cliff increasingly frantically, and another officer was also involved in the pursuit. While exonerating Oswald and other suspects in the shooting, I point to possible suspects and believe that two, three, or even four men were involved.

I was born in Milwaukee in 1947 and attended Marquette University High School and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. I was a reporter for The Wisconsin State Journal before moving to California in 1973 and was a film critic, reporter, and columnist for Daily Variety in Hollywood for many years. My screenwriting credits include co-writing Rock 'n' Roll High School (1979). I am the author of fifteen books, including Frank Capra: The Catastrophe of Success (1992), Steven Spielberg: A Biography (1997), Searching for John Ford (2001) and What Ever Happened to Orson Welles?: A Portrait of an Independent Career (2006). I have written for Life, The New York Review of Books, The New York Times Book Review, The Los Angeles Times Magazine and The Nation. I live in Berkeley and I am a professor at San Francisco State University. My latest book is Into the Nightmare: My Search for the Killers of President John F. Kennedy and Officer J. D. Tippit. http://www.josephmcbridefilm.com/#!biography