Scott Tame

Daniel, I agree that an individuals earliest recollections are more reliable since it tends to eliminate the problem of memory conformity. While I agree with Pat that most of the Parkland witnesses describe a wound in the upper back of the head, I was trying to point out to David that this is also where the earliest accounts of the Bethesda witnesses place it. As I was trying to point out above, the description of the scalp tears in the autopsy report also place the area of missing scalp in right rear of the head.

The lateral xray shows the entire right FRONT gone... The anterior... even more of the right side to the front is gone... which matches none of the Fox images... Based on who's interpretation? That certainly wasn't the interpretation of the HSCA based on the photos and X-rays. Ryberg is certainly not the only evidence from the autopsy that suggests an exit point... although "point" is a misnomer... "exit area blown out" is more accurate I clearly stated above that I wasn't referring to the area of missing scalp (i.e. the area of blow out) but to the beveling on the skull which would indicate the exact point the bullet impacted. Yet you dont address the 6:40-8pm Bethesda time other than to dismiss the casket changes and work done by HUMES on the body... What do you think was happening while xrays are being developed yet JFK had just arrived out front What is your source for the 6:40 time? "anterior to the right ear" is the end of that injury's description... isn't anterior TO THE FRONT.. ? So the tear in the skull/scalp from IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT EAR extends to a point ABOVE THE Little bump on the EAR. In the image I posted, the letter a) is just above the tragus with a line extending from the TP-margin,which is even further forward, BACK to the point above the tragus... It's describing the start point and end point of the scalp tear. It starts at the right inferior (lower) temporo-parietal edge of the area of missing scalp and goes forward to the right ear and ends just above the tragus In F7 this appears as the cracked bone flap in front of the ear.. in F3 it is completely covered up and the scalp is shown as intact... Unfortunately the photos and x-rays disagree with the eye witness accounts at both Bethesda and Parkland.

"There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures approximately 13cm. in greatest diameter. From the irregular margins of the above scalp defect tears extend in stellate fashion into the more or less intact scalp as follows: a. From the right inferior temporo-parietal margin anterior to the right ear to a point slightly above the tragus." Translation: There is an area of missing scalp with irregular edges from which tears radiate. The lower right margin of this defect is in the temporo-parietal region. Tear A begins at this lower right margin and goes forward to the right ear to a point just above the tragus. The only way this tear can go forward to the right ear is if the scalp defect is behind it.

Scott... which autopsy results and physical evidence offered are you talking about that does not support a single shot from above and behind UNTIL one takes the time to plot it on a skull... and even though the damage is far more extensive than a single bullet could cause... any and all easily understandable evidence that could be related to a frontal shot has been removed... The autopsy report states that the Bullet entered low on the back of the head. The Clark Panel had to raise this wound to get the trajectory to work for a shot from above and behind. Pat pointed out that the exit (beveling on the skull not missing scalp) wasn't moved to the forehead until the HSCA came along. The only thing we have to base the exit point on from the autopsy is the Rydberg Drawing. That's one hell of an upward angle even with the bogus head angle.

Am I reading you correctly? ...you believe the evidence offered from the autopsy supports a single shot from above and behind? http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21028#entry284612 - my post #6 above... I was pointing out that if they were going to create wounds to support shots from above and behind, their autopsy results do not support that. And what were you saying earlier about a soapbox?

If you're going to create evidence at Bethesda, you don't need a casket shell game to accomplish it. But you should probably create a head wound that supports a shot from above and behind. And if you're going create evidence at Bethesda, why throw a bullet on some random stretcher in Parkland when you can magically pull one out of the shallow back wound instead.

On Feb. 1, 1965, apparently in response to Gen. Blumbergs request for a copy of his notes, Finck states that only the entrance wound showed "a portion of a crater" and "No exit wound is identifiable at this time in the skull, . . ." The only evidence of the exit wound is on the late arriving bone fragments.

Pat, If I remember right, the doctors originally listed this photo as the entrance in the back of the head. I thought the Clark Panel also changed the numbers on these photos in addition to changing it to the front of the head.

I was born in Pennsylvania and raised in Maine. Although only two when President Kennedy was assassinated, I became interested in the assassination over twenty years ago and have studied it ever since. I have been a member of the Lancer forum for several years.