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If you want to know what's really going on then don't look for it in these meaningless arguments about birth certificates, etc. The fact is there is a transformation taking place in the population akin to a Mass strike revolt.
Terry,
The 'birthers' have been disrupting any and all health care town hall meetings, so they've been discontinued.
There is no revolt. The American people are on vacation, and now so are their representatives and the President.
The Health Insurance conglamorates, whose profits rose 400% in the past six years, are spending $1.5 million a day to defeat health care reform, and they're winning.
Euthenasia has nothing to do with it.
BK
Bill, you're way off base. The population know that Obama have threatened their lives with his Hitler t-4 healthcare reform.
The so called truthers are not behind these heated town hall meetings!
Read about the meeting in Michigan with John Dingle (who had been popular with voters until now).
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090809/OP...ealth+care+bill
If Obama was serious about healthcare reform he would simply cancel the "HMO" laws and go back to a Hill Burton approach.
Trick Dick Nixon passed the HMO laws back in 1972/1973.
And speaking of Richard Nixon, he resigned from office 35 years ago yesterday., Obama should take note as he is headed in the same direction.
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If you want to know what's really going on then don't look for it in these meaningless arguments about birth certificates, etc. The fact is there is a transformation taking place in the population akin to a Mass strike revolt.
- From the Streets of America: -
- The Mass Strike Revolt Is On -
by Jeffrey Steinberg
Aug. 8--Yesterday morning, President Barack Obama abruptly
cancelled a scheduled appearance at Henderson Hall in Arlington,
Va., where he was to hold a town hall meeting on his health-care
``reform'' policy. Instead, he held a three-minute press
conference in the Rose Garden, read prepared remarks from a
teleprompter, and took no questions.
Today, the President's office announced that he had
cancelled a schedule of public appearances around the country, en
route to his vacation on Martha's Vineyard. Now, instead of
touring the country, promoting his health-care swindle, as
previously scheduled, the President is ducking for cover, taking
his family to the Grand Canyon, and then to the safety of Cape
Cod, Massachusetts. Mr. Obama, in short, is hiding out.
The same is true of the vast majority of members of the
House of Representatives and Senate. They have all gone into
hiding, in the face of a mass revolt of the American people,
against what they see as a total betrayal by their Federal
elected officials, starting with the President.
In the minds of the vast majority of Americans:
* The President has fully embraced and extended the Bush
Administration's policy of bailing out Wall Street and the
banks--to the tune of more than $23 trillion, while average
Americans continue to lose their jobs, their homes and their
health care at worse than Depression-era rates. A death-spiral is
already hitting some of the most vulnerable in the population,
and this will only get worse in the immediate days ahead.
* The President has been caught, repeatedly, in his own
words, advocating a policy of euthanasia and other radical cuts
in health-care services, all in the name of so-called ``reform,''
and ``saving the system.'' More and more Americans are coming to
realize that the President's policies are worse than those of
Adolf Hitler. As Lyndon LaRouche noted today, Hitler was smart
enough to wait until the war had begun to implement his genocidal
euthanasia schemes. Obama is going, flight-forward, for the same
policy of identifying whole categories of the population whose
lives are deemed ``no longer worthy of living,'' and he does not
intend to wait for anybody or anything.
The fact is, that the American people have awakened to
reality. And this is one slumbering giant that will have its
way--one way or the other. The United States of America has
entered a period of momentous revolt, the likes of which has not
been seen, since the French Revolution erupted on the streets of
Paris in 1789.
- The People Have Spoken -
Coinciding with LaRouche's Aug. 1 webcast, the American
people have taken to the streets, to voice their fury at what has
been dealt to them by their elected representatives in
Washington. The news of the week has been the mass turnout at
town hall meetings all over the country, called by once-popular
Congressmen, who, now, increasingly, won't dare show their faces
in public. Constituents have turned out in record numbers, to
shout down their elected representatives, and demand a total
change in policy--starting with health care.
In Romulus, Mich., where the official unemployment rate is
17%, but, in reality, is closer to double that figure, 1,000
citizens turned out to confront the formerly popular Rep. John
Dingell (D), who has served in the House since 1955. When
LaRouche PAC organizers held up a large poster, depicting
President Obama with a Hitler moustache, and the words ``I've
Changed,'' the crowd went wild with approval, taking pictures and
videos, and backing down police, who attempted to escort the
organizers outside the room where the event was being held, which
was only large enough to seat 150-200 people.
When a man in a wheelchair disrupted Dingell's talk,
accusing him of backing a policy that would kill his son, who
suffered from cerebral palsy, the police pulled him out of the
room. That incident was videotaped, and has been posted on the
Internet, where millions have seen it. Major news outlets, like
CNN, NBC, and the {Wall Street Journal}, have featured the
Obama-with-Hitler-moustache posted in their headline news
coverage of the revolt.
In a suburb of Tampa, Fla. Aug. 6, some 1,500 people showed
up for a town hall meeting with Rep. Kathy Castor (D). The event,
promoting Obama's health-care ``reform,'' was organized by the
White House-run Organizing for America and the Service Employees
International Union (SEIU). The majority of people in attendance
showed up to express their anger at the murderous policies of the
President and Congress, and, at one point, captured on video,
SEIU goons attacked some of the participants, causing a
near-riot.
In St. Louis, Mo. the same day, 1,000 citizens were locked
out of a widely advertised town hall meeting with Rep. Russ
Carnahan (D-Mo.), while SEIU members were ushered into the room
through a separate door. At that event, SEIU and Obama toughs
also attacked protesters, leading to six arrests.
Everywhere around the country, the exact same thing is
happening. Even Congressional Republicans, who oppose the Obama
euthanasia scheme, are finding that they, too, are not exempt
from the public wrath. Rep. Tom Petri (Wisc.) was confronted on
Aug. 7 by an angry crowd at a public appearance, and Rep. Bob
Inglis (S.C.) had to fend off a crowd of 350 furious constituents
this week. The angry voters were not at all satisfied at with a
pledge to vote against Obama's health-care fiasco. They want far,
far more out of their elected representatives.
The mass, spontaneous eruptions are not confined to
pre-scheduled public events either. While on the campaign trail
for a local candidate in the Denver area, Speaker of the House
Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) made an appearance at a community center,
was recognized, and was soon confronted by a crowd of angry
citizens. Word got out to nearby shops and buildings, and Pelosi
had to flee.
The Sargeant-at-Arms of the United States Senate issued a
warning to all Senators late last week, that they should take
precautions when they return to their home states, because they
could expect to face ``a true political uprising.''
- Making Matters Worse -
The response from the Obama White House to this popular
revolt has only served to make matters worse. For weeks, the
President has been urged by responsible Democratic legislators to
drop his health-care ``reforms,'' and accept the fact that the
American people have resoundingly rejected his claims that he can
``improve'' health care for all, through trillions of dollars in
cuts in services. The President has, so far, rejected all pleas
for sanity.
Instead, he and his top White House aides, have accused the
tens of thousands of protesters who have already taken to the
streets, of being ``right-wing professional agitators,'' ``Brooks
Brothers-suited rioters,'' and ``Brown Shirts.'' While the
President's men are putting out these patent lies, accusing ``Big
Pharma'' of putting up the cash to send professional agitators
from town to town, the reality is that the pharmaceutical
industry is in love with Obama's scheme, because it allows them
to keep up their price gouging. Indeed, the industry lobby, PhRMA
is pledged to spend between $150-200 million in an advertising
campaign this Autumn, {supporting} the President's so-called
health care reforms. And another front group for the industry,
Healthy Economy Now, is spending an additional $12 million in
advertising--to boost the Obama scheme.
In one extreme case of flight-from-reality, White House
officials have gone so far as to blame the mass protests on
Israeli agitators (!), who, they say, were smuggled into the
United States on behalf of the Netanyahu government. The
ostensible reason? To deliver the President a major defeat on his
signature legislative issue, and thereby weaken his opposition to
continued expanded Israeli settlements, and Israel's rejection of
the two-state solution.
The President, safely sealed off from an ever-growing
majority of furious citizens, is clearly sticking to his mad
denial of reality. In his Saturday, Aug. 8 weekly radio address,
the President lied shamelessly, stating, ``As we draw close to
finalizing and passing real health insurance reform, the
defenders of the status quo and political point-scorers in
Washington are growing fiercer in their opposition. In recent
days and weeks, some have been using misleading information to
defeat what they know is the best chance of reform we have ever
had. That is why it is important, especially now, as Senators and
Representatives head home and meet with their constituents, for
you, the American people, to have all the facts.''
The President ranted on, ``So let me explain what reform
will mean for you. And let me start by dispelling the outlandish
rumors that reform will promote euthanasia, cut Medicaid, or
bring about a government takeover of health care. That's simply
not true.''
This is the same Barack Obama who, just a week earlier, had
announced five times, in the course of one press conference, that
the central feature of his health-care ``reform'' program was the
creation of an independent board to police medical services and
cut costs--precisely the Hitler T-4 board, that oversaw the
removal of medical care, the euthanizing of hundreds of thousands
of elderly, chronically ill, and mentally impaired Germans from
1939-41--a prelude and first phase of the Holocaust.
This insane sophistry on the part of the President and his
men has forced some Democrats to repudiate the White House lies,
to save their political skins. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), an
early enthusiastic campaign backer of Obama, posted a statement,
declaring, ``I disagree that the people showing concern over some
health-care proposals are `manufactured....' Real folks, strong
opinions.'' Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), who was confronted by 500
enraged constituents at a recent town hall meeting in Baltimore,
defended his detractors, telling reporters that the ``majority of
Americans'' want to know how the bills before Congress and
peddled by Obama, are going to affect them, and these are
``legitimate questions'' asked by real constituents.
While the revolt now underway across the nation is the
cumulative reaction to the failure of elected officials to
honestly deal with the worst economic and financial collapse
since the 14th-Century New Dark Age in Europe, it can be fairly
said that Lyndon LaRouche's series of widely viewed webcasts,
beginning with his April 11, 2009 address, exposing President
Obama as suffering from a severe ``Nero Complex,'' have informed
the public and helped fuel the process. Indeed, while the White
House tries to scramble to pin the reactions on a bunch of
``right-wing extremists'' and ``racists,'' growing numbers of
Republicans have, indeed, been picking up on LaRouche's expose of
the Obama health-care ``reform'' scheme as a replay of the Nazi
T-4 euthanasia program.
Just-retired Alaska governor and recent GOP Vice
Presidential nominee Sarah Palin displayed a bit of political
acumen on Aug. 7, when she posted a statement on her website,
asking: ``Who will suffer the most when they ration care? The
sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I
know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down
Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's `death panel' so
his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of
their `level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy
of health care. Such a system is downright evil.''
Palin went on to cite Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who
delivered a frontal attack--by name--on Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the
brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and a key
White House health-care ``reform'' advisor, for his repudiation
of the Hypocratic Oath, and his advocacy of euthanasia.
- The Dynamics of the Mass Strike -
Against this backdrop, LaRouche delivered a history lesson
on the dynamics of the mass strike process, in a symposium with
colleagues today.
``This is a mass strike, comparable in many features, to the
French mass developments of June-July 1789, something which we
have not seen, which is even comparable in either Europe and
North America, since the 1930s. Faced with the systemic revolt of
the U.S. citizenry against the combined general breakdown-crisis
of the U.S. economy, and the hatred throughout the population
against the role of both the President and the majority of the
U.S. Congress, the vast majority of the U.S. citizenry are in a
revolt against the elected officials of the government.
``So, both the President and the Congress have gone into
hiding this weekend, hiding from the U.S. population as a whole
body--not against some limited numbers of disgruntled citizens.
This is a condition fairly compared to France, in the months of
June and July 1789, a time when the King and Queen of France had
gone into hiding from a French population which was enraged
against them, by such developments as the King's bringing in
foreign troops from the Queen's brother, the Emperor Joseph II,
in rage against France over the matter of the earlier
orchestrated scandal of the `Queen's Necklace.'
``When the institutions of national government such as the
head of state, his government, and the national legislature have
fled into hiding against the fully justified rage of the general
population as a whole, you have a situation of crisis which is
comparable to that of the French Revolution.
``There are two issues behind this general rejection of the
President and members of Congress by the great majority of the
U.S. population. First, is the Obama health-care policy imported
from the President's masters of the British monarchy; the second
is the $20-plus trillions bail-out swindle initiated by the
complicity of the U.S. Congress and both the Bush and Obama
presidencies. The President and Congress have fled not only
because they have lost the confidence of the people; they have
fled because they have also lost confidence in themselves.
``We are, thus, in a condition, when the President and
Congress have abandoned their posts in government in this way.
Unless both the entire bail-out policy and the Obama health-care
policy are repealed now, the situation is already virtually
ungovernable.
``The existence of the continuity of the constitutional
government of the U.S.A. now lies, at this instant, in the hands
of those within the institutions of the President and Congress
who are ready to cancel the bailout, restore the U.S. economy
under reorganization of finances in bankruptcy, and sweep the
entire Obama health-care plan into the rubbish-bin, for now, and
forever. It is time for the right representatives of
constitutional government to take President Obama out to the
woodshed, as was done with President Nixon. Nothing less will
do.''
In the case of the French Revolution, leading republicans,
like the Marquis de Lafayette, failed to act at critical moments,
and lost control over the entire process, leading to the British
intelligence-led destruction of France, and a new decade of wars
on the European continent.
Today, LaRouche emphasized, there is nothing that will turn
off the public rage, and its demand for a genuine change in
leadership and policy direction. What will give positive
direction to the mass revolt that is already underway and
unstoppable, is a clear plan for a revolutionary change in
policy. This is, LaRouche asserted, what the American people
want.
- London Answers -
It is no coincidence that, while the Obama White House
privately seeths at LaRouche's every word, and makes no bones, in
discussions with perceived Democratic Party allies, that LaRouche
is the greatest obstacle to their Nazi euthanasia agenda, they
avoid, at all costs, an open and public confrontation with
LaRouche. So, the White House spin-doctors have been focusing
their barbs at an amorphous ``right wing'' and ``big business''
apparatus behind the crash, in support for the President's
agenda.
Not so for the City of London. On Aug. 7, the flagship
{Financial Times} ran a smear story on the ``black helicopter''
conspiracy mob, which, they lied, stands behind the crash in
Obama's popular support. They led off the attack with a pointed
reference to LaRouche--by name--citing an earlier attack on
LaRouche in the pages of the {Financial Times} that produced a
flurry of protests, at the time. After a rant against LaRouche as
a so-called ``conspiracy theorist'' who places ``international
bankers,'' ``world government,'' and ``the Queen of England'' at
the center of his conspiracies, author Jurek Martin conceded that
the American media can no longer curb the influence of the likes
of LaRouche, because the Internet now makes it impossible for the
Establishment media ``gatekeepers'' to control the spread of
LaRouche's ideas.
The {Financial Times} diatribe came less than a week after
LaRouche's Aug. 1 webcast, which, not coincidentally, was titled
``The Fall of the House of Windsor.''
Mass Strike Process Overruns More Congressional Town Hall
Meetings
Aug. 8 (LPAC)--The mass strike process that Lyndon LaRouche
described today, has been running over members of Congress from
both parties with increasing intensity in the last days.
* In Kansas City, hundreds of people showed up for a regular
monthly meeting, this morning, with Rep. Emmanuel Cleaver. He
refused to talk to the crowd, instead meeting privately with 75
people, and then left after an hour for "another appointment."
Those left outside the meeting stayed, holding signs, chanting
and arguing with each other.
* On Aug. 7, Rep. Brian Baird of Washington received a
faxed death threat a day after he described angry town hall
protesters as "a lynch mob." He has canceled the rest of the town
hall meetings he had planned for August.
* In Saratoga Springs, N.Y., 20 protesters greeted Rep.
Scott Murphy to let him know they oppose Obama's health reform
plan.
* Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.) is avoiding the crowds by
holding his meetings by telephone conference call which, of
course, can be very tightly controlled. Rep. Elijah Cummings
(D-Md.) says he is concerned that media coverage of outbursts at
town hall meetings will only intensify public skepticism about
the health care plan, but he is still, according to the
{Baltimore Sun}, planning such a meeting for Aug. 24, because "I
want to hear different views."
* In St. Louis, the University City school district canceled
a health care forum that Sen. Claire McCaskill was scheduled to
hold there on Aug. 11 because of the "escalation of violence" at
such meetings across the country. McCaskill's office said they
will extend the time of another forum, also on Aug. 11, at
Jefferson College, to two full hours.
* Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) found himself surrounded by
more than 100 people during a meeting at a coffee shop last
night, When they weren't arguing with him, they were arguing with
each other, and many carried signs for or against health reform.
* In Georgia, Rep. David Scott stuck his foot in his mouth,
when he denounced a doctor who got up to ask him some questions
about health reform. Scott took him for a GOP political operative
intending to disrupt the meeting, which was otherwise held to
discuss a road project. Scott launched into a tirade attacking
those he said were there to "hijack" the meeting. The tirade was
filmed by a local TV station which confirmed afterwards that the
doctor was from Scott's district. The doctor told the TV
reporters that he had called Scott's office repeatedly to try to
talk to him about health care reform. "I went to the meeting to
literally ask a question that I thought was very, very important
for my patients," he said.
* Republicans are also facing angry crowds. About 150 people
in Manitowoc, Wisconsin were not satisfied with Rep. Tom Petri's
stated opposition to the Obama health reform plan. One combat
veteran said of the plan "this craziness is not what we fought
for." In North Carolina, Rep. Bob Inglis faced an angry crowd of
350 people, many complaining about socialism or that the
government has gone far outside the strictures of the
Constitution. [cjo]
Obama Freaks Out At LaRouche Attack on His Nazi Health Care
Policy
Aug. 8 (LPAC)--President Obama's Saturday radio address this
morning reflects the level of freakout inside the White House
against the mass strike, catalyzed by Lyndon LaRouche, that is
building up against his Nazi health care policy. The relevant
quotes are as follows:
"As we draw close to finalizing -- and passing -- real
health insurance reform, the defenders of the status quo and
political point-scorers in Washington are growing fiercer in
their opposition. In recent days and weeks, some have been using
misleading information to defeat what they know is the best
chance of reform we have ever had. That is why it is important,
especially now, as Senators and Representatives head home and
meet with their constituents, for you, the American people, to
have all the facts.
"So, let me explain what reform will mean for you. And let
me start by dispelling the outlandish rumors that reform will
promote euthanasia, cut Medicaid, or bring about a government
takeover of health care. That's simply not true. This isn't about
putting government in charge of your health insurance; it's about
putting you in charge of your health insurance. Under the reforms
we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If
you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care
plan."
As also noted by LaRouche, Obama will spend most of the
month of August hiding from the American people. Aside from a
town hall meeting in Portsmouth, N.H. on health reform, which is
reportedly still on the schedule, Obama will be in Guadalajara,
Mexico for a trilateral meeting with Mexican President Calderon
and Canadian Prime Minister Harper on Aug. 10, will be traveling
on a grand tour of national parks in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado
and Arizona on Aug. 14th-17th, and then will spend the last week
of the month camped out on vacation on Martha's Vineyard. Vice
President Biden is similarly hiding on an island off the coast of
South Carolina.
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Terry - it's unlike you to resort to name calling. You're better than that. Attack the argument, not the poster.
Evan I dont consider it name calling. Besides it is interesting to see how "Johnny on the spot" you are in sanitizing truthful statements regarding your pet.
How long did it take for you to answer the 911 call?
If you're going to delete my statement why not take a look at Colby's characterization that preceeded my response?
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Thus Spoke LaRouchustraMUST READ - CAMPAIGN NEWS
Dingell Town Hall in Romulus, Michigan: Real Politics Have
Reawakened!
Aug. 7 (LPAC)--Lyndon LaRouche's political forecast of the coming
lynch mobs against Obama's economic policies, was demonstrated
anew last night in Romulus, Michigan...
It’s hard to imagine that living on his secluded compound in Virginia with little contact with anyone who isn’t a sycophantic follower LaRouche has the pulse of the people. Despite his assertions to the contrary Obama remains popular.
Len Colby chimes in once again.
Let's remember this Colby analysis of Obama's popularity. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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There is a tremendous amount of anger building in the population towards Obama and his adminstration. It seems to be centered around his healthcare rationing policies.
It is quite strange that Obama came in to office facing the worst economic/ financial crisis in over 70 years, along with record levels of unemployment. You have industries like the auto sector collapsing and entire states around the country are bankrupt. Obama instead of dealing with the economic and financial crisis as he promised he would do chooses instead to invest his Presidency in "cutting healthcare" to the poor and elderly. You have to question what is really going on here.
Here's a report that was posted on LaRouchepac website. It appears they had quite a brawl in Michigan.
MUST READ - CAMPAIGN NEWS
Dingell Town Hall in Romulus, Michigan: Real Politics Have
Reawakened!
Aug. 7 (LPAC)--Lyndon LaRouche's political forecast of the coming
lynch mobs against Obama's economic policies, was demonstrated
anew last night in Romulus, Michigan. Democratic Congressman John
Dingell attempted to have a small town meeting (using a room fit
for 150-200 people), but close to 1,000 turned out. They had to
break the meeting up into two parts, letting each group in for an
hour.
Three LaRouche PAC organizers were there at the start
(reinforcements were later on the way), barely able to pass out
literature as fast as it was being requested. Many of the people
agreed with the LaRouche PAC's proposals, and were familiar with
LaRouche, or knew of him. One LPAC organizer was holding a huge
"Obamustache" poster with the caption "I've changed," drawing the
attention of all, with a clear majority very supportive. On
several occasions, the crowd defended LaRouche PAC's presence.
The police tried to tell the organizers to go outside, but as
soon as people realized what was happening, they shouted at the
policeman that the LaRouche PAC had a right to be there. The
policeman nervously inquired if the organizers would be calm,
which the organizers affirmed, adding, however, that if they were
forced to leave, things would quickly stop being calm (referring
to the audience).
Just as the organizers were about to enter the meeting room,
a security person came up and said they had cut into the line
(which was true), and that they needed to go to the back of the
line (thereby guaranteeing that they would not make it inside).
He was quickly denounced by the people nearby in the line, who
said that the organizers were with them, and that they should be
let in.
When everyone was settling down, one LaRouche PAC organizer
held up the large (approximately 4'x4') poster of Obama with a
Hitler moustache, and the whole room burst into cheers and
applause, with many participants taking pictures.
The tone of the event was set when a Baby Boomer man
approached the front of the room, pushing his son, who was in a
wheelchair. He demanded to speak, saying that Obama's health-care
bill would be a death sentence for his son, who has cerebral
palsy. Dingell said there was an amendment in the bill that would
help cover the chronically ill, but neither the man or the
audience believed him. The man and his son were escorted out by
security.
Nearly every time Dingell tried to speak, the crowd was in
an uproar. Many pointed questions were being yelled out by the
audience, such as "How are you going to make things cheaper
without cutting care? Will people be denied care near the end of
their lives?" In many cases, the constituents had done their
homework, bringing highlighted copies of the bill with them, and
referring to specific sections in their remarks. People knew that
end-of-life care = euthanasia, and it came across both in the
questions voiced at the mic (by the moderator), and in what
people were shouting out.
Some people seemed to almost come to blows both inside and
outside the event, though most activity/discussion was grounded
in reason.
When the LaRouche PAC reinforcements arrived, they set up a
book table, and before one could blink, it was surrounded by
people. Individual organizers were briefing 3-4 people at a time,
with many signing up, as the LaRouche PAC was the only one
presenting a solution. Fights were erupting all around, as people
argued over whether or not to support the bill. The organizers
got out at least 20 bundles of literature, with several people
asking for extras for their friends and family. By the end of the
event, some people were carrying around nearly a bundle to take
home with them.
A few details from the table: One lady with the Tea Partiers
gave us the contact info for the local head of their group, and
took extra literature to get out at their next meeting. Another
organizer for the Campaign for Liberty said that we were already
in touch with her, and that we have addressed their meetings
before. She was excited to see the LaRouche PAC there, and took
extra literature to distribute. Though a few officers in uniform
took literature, one organizer spotted a policeman who left in
uniform, came back in plain clothes, and snatched some literature
off the booktable before quickly walking away.
Photos and videos are available on LaroucheNet. (Tiffany
DET)
More from the healthcare meetings.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32338375/ns/po..._new_york_times
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There is a tremendous amount of anger building in the population towards Obama and his adminstration. It seems to be centered around his healthcare rationing policies.
It is quite strange that Obama came in to office facing the worst economic/ financial crisis in over 70 years, along with record levels of unemployment. You have industries like the auto sector collapsing and entire states around the country are bankrupt. Obama instead of dealing with the economic and financial crisis as he promised he would do chooses instead to invest his Presidency in "cutting healthcare" to the poor and elderly. You have to question what is really going on here.
Here's a report that was posted on LaRouchepac website. It appears they had quite a brawl in Michigan.
MUST READ - CAMPAIGN NEWS
Dingell Town Hall in Romulus, Michigan: Real Politics Have
Reawakened!
Aug. 7 (LPAC)--Lyndon LaRouche's political forecast of the coming
lynch mobs against Obama's economic policies, was demonstrated
anew last night in Romulus, Michigan. Democratic Congressman John
Dingell attempted to have a small town meeting (using a room fit
for 150-200 people), but close to 1,000 turned out. They had to
break the meeting up into two parts, letting each group in for an
hour.
Three LaRouche PAC organizers were there at the start
(reinforcements were later on the way), barely able to pass out
literature as fast as it was being requested. Many of the people
agreed with the LaRouche PAC's proposals, and were familiar with
LaRouche, or knew of him. One LPAC organizer was holding a huge
"Obamustache" poster with the caption "I've changed," drawing the
attention of all, with a clear majority very supportive. On
several occasions, the crowd defended LaRouche PAC's presence.
The police tried to tell the organizers to go outside, but as
soon as people realized what was happening, they shouted at the
policeman that the LaRouche PAC had a right to be there. The
policeman nervously inquired if the organizers would be calm,
which the organizers affirmed, adding, however, that if they were
forced to leave, things would quickly stop being calm (referring
to the audience).
Just as the organizers were about to enter the meeting room,
a security person came up and said they had cut into the line
(which was true), and that they needed to go to the back of the
line (thereby guaranteeing that they would not make it inside).
He was quickly denounced by the people nearby in the line, who
said that the organizers were with them, and that they should be
let in.
When everyone was settling down, one LaRouche PAC organizer
held up the large (approximately 4'x4') poster of Obama with a
Hitler moustache, and the whole room burst into cheers and
applause, with many participants taking pictures.
The tone of the event was set when a Baby Boomer man
approached the front of the room, pushing his son, who was in a
wheelchair. He demanded to speak, saying that Obama's health-care
bill would be a death sentence for his son, who has cerebral
palsy. Dingell said there was an amendment in the bill that would
help cover the chronically ill, but neither the man or the
audience believed him. The man and his son were escorted out by
security.
Nearly every time Dingell tried to speak, the crowd was in
an uproar. Many pointed questions were being yelled out by the
audience, such as "How are you going to make things cheaper
without cutting care? Will people be denied care near the end of
their lives?" In many cases, the constituents had done their
homework, bringing highlighted copies of the bill with them, and
referring to specific sections in their remarks. People knew that
end-of-life care = euthanasia, and it came across both in the
questions voiced at the mic (by the moderator), and in what
people were shouting out.
Some people seemed to almost come to blows both inside and
outside the event, though most activity/discussion was grounded
in reason.
When the LaRouche PAC reinforcements arrived, they set up a
book table, and before one could blink, it was surrounded by
people. Individual organizers were briefing 3-4 people at a time,
with many signing up, as the LaRouche PAC was the only one
presenting a solution. Fights were erupting all around, as people
argued over whether or not to support the bill. The organizers
got out at least 20 bundles of literature, with several people
asking for extras for their friends and family. By the end of the
event, some people were carrying around nearly a bundle to take
home with them.
A few details from the table: One lady with the Tea Partiers
gave us the contact info for the local head of their group, and
took extra literature to get out at their next meeting. Another
organizer for the Campaign for Liberty said that we were already
in touch with her, and that we have addressed their meetings
before. She was excited to see the LaRouche PAC there, and took
extra literature to distribute. Though a few officers in uniform
took literature, one organizer spotted a policeman who left in
uniform, came back in plain clothes, and snatched some literature
off the booktable before quickly walking away.
Photos and videos are available on LaroucheNet. (Tiffany
DET)
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I admit I'm not an expert on the Apollo hoax issue, but I have done a bit of research. I have doubts that we went to the moon, but am not as firmly in the conspiracy camp as I am on most other issues. I have a question that maybe has been answered before, but I couldn't find any real information about it during a Google search.
Richard Nixon supposedly telephoned the Apollo 11 astronauts from the Oval Office. My question is: how did he do that? I understand that there was radio contact between NASA and the astronauts, but how could he use a telephone at the White House to call someone on the moon? Maybe I'm stupid, but that makes no sense to me. I apologize if this issue has been covered before on the forum.
Don,
Why would you question the legitimacy of the JFK space program?
Here let me give you another way to look at it. Ask yourself how all these spinoffs into the US economy happened if the Kennedy Space Program was a fraud. This fake moon landing story just shows you what 40 plus years of cultural pessimism has done to the US population.
http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/eco...conomic_fa.html
It has been reported that for every pennie JFK invested into the space program returned $0.10 - $0.12 to the US economy in new design, productivity, etc.
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Just pasting as it was sent to me - I'm sure this applies world wide
It is the month of June; a resort town sits next to the shores of a lake. It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted.
It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.
He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 dollar bill on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.
The hotel proprietor takes the 100 dollar bill and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.
The Butcher takes the 100 dollar bill, and runs to pay his debt to the pig raiser.
The pig raiser takes the 100 dollar bill, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.
The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 dollar bill and runs to pay his debt to the town's prostitute that in these hard times, gave her "services" on credit.
The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 dollar bill to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.
The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 dollar bill back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything.
At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 dollar bill, after saying he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.
No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government is doing business today.
Ain't life wonderful!!!!
Forum member Anton Chaitkin wrote the following back in 1985. Henry Clay warns his countrymen of the dangers of rejecting the American System for British Free Trade.
Henry Clay:
National Development Must Take Precedence Over Debt Payments
by Anton Chaitkin
http://american_almanac.tripod.com/hclay.htm
It is not the US Government who is the real culprit. The real culprit is Free Trade, a cancerous policy that has dominated the United States economy since the assassination of "American System" President John F. Kennedy.
Who killed JFK?
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John Train was instrumental in the 1980's rail roading of Lyndon LaRouche. I believe Tom left that fact off John Train's resume.
http://www.larouchepub.com/exon/exon_add2_train.html
Wall Street broker and Anglophile intelligence operator John Train took charge of key aspects of the propaganda and witness tampering in the Get LaRouche drive beginning in April 1983, working in league with the Project Democracy apparatus inside the Reagan-Bush administration. Train operated under the illegally invoked umbrella of Executive Order 12333
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Jim should re post his expose of the book "Farewell America". His analysis of that book was superb.
It ruffled alot of feathers as I recall.
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http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=11005
Just in case you didn't get it the first time. Here it is, lain out for you again.
- 9/11 COVER IS BLOWN -
by Jeffrey Steinberg
http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/07/12...cover-is-blown/
July 10--In the report that follows, you will discover that some of the most fundamental assumptions that you have been clinging to, since Sept. 11, 2001--assumptions that Lyndon LaRouche warned against--have been a total fraud. Much of what you have been told about the events of 9/11 have been a hoax. The truth, which is clearly revealed in newly declassified documents, available through the National Archives, is that two leading, presumed U.S. allies--Saudi Arabia and Great Britain--were up to their eyeballs in the attacks on New York City and Washington. The United States was betrayed by leading elements within the Saudi Arabian Royal Family and intelligence services, in league with the British Empire. And, top officials of the Bush-Cheney White House, the Justice Department, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) were both aware of, and fully complicit in the coverup of the crime of the century.
The Anglo-Saudi alliance behind the 9/11 atrocity is represented, most graphically, by a 25-year-old secret intelligence arrangement, concealed beneath a lucrative arms-for-oil barter deal called "al-Yamamah.'' There is now sufficient, credible evidence that funds from the offshore al-Yamamah accounts were funneled to at least two of the 9/11 hijackers, to warrant a high-profile Justice Department probe, without delay.
The newly released documents, when cross-gridded with other evidence already in the public domain, confirm the Anglo-Saudi hand behind 9/11, and debunk nearly eight years of conspiracy rubbish, that have portrayed the attacks as a scheme by cave-dwellers and ``under-the-floorboard'' mysterious forces. The writings of a former LaRouche associate, Webster Tarpley, more or less typify the kind of off-course conspiracy mongering that is now thoroughly discredited by the new material and the larger picture assembled by {EIR} researchers.
Elements of the story have already been reported in {EIR}, and LaRouche instinctively pointed to the true nature of the
operation, in a now-famous radio interview that he gave to the Salt Lake City-based syndicated radio host Dr. Jack Stockwell, as the hijacked planes were crashing into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001.
If the full implications of the new, confirming evidence of the Anglo-Saudi hand in the 9/11 attack are comprehended and
acted on, by the appropriate U.S. and other government services, one of the root sources of global asymmetric warfare can be wiped out--with many other side benefits as well.
- The New Evidence -
Early this year, the National Archives released documents from the files of the 9/11 Commission, which were previously
classified. Three of those documents, recently obtained by {EIR}, provide the "smoking gun,'' proving the central role of Saudi intelligence, and the critical support role of British intelligence in the preparation, execution, and coverup of 9/11.
The most significant of the documents, still partly classified, is a "Memorandum for the Record,'' summarizing an April 23, 2004 interview with a Southern California-based FBI informant, who rented out a room in his home to two of the 9/11 hijackers, during 2000. Although the memorandum redacted the informant's name, other public sources have identified the man as {{Abdussattar Shaikh}}. His FBI handler has also been publicly named as Steven Butler.
In the interview, Shaikh provided a detailed account of his first encounter with the two 9/11 hijackers, {{Nawaf al-Hazmi}}
and {{Khalid al-Mihdhar}}. In April 2000, Shaikh posted an announcement on the bulletin board at the Islamic Center of San
Diego (ICSD), offering to rent rooms in his home to "devout Muslims.'' At the time he posted the ad, Shaikh was already
acting as a paid informant for the FBI. According to his account to 9/11 Commission investigators Quinn John Tamm, Jr. and
Dietrich Snell, Shaikh was approached after Friday prayers by al-Hazmi, who said he and al-Mihdhar urgently needed housing. By Shaikh's account, the two men moved into his home on May 10, 2000. Al-Mihdhar left after six weeks, claiming that he was returning to Saudi Arabia to visit his wife and young child.
Al-Hazmi lived in the room until Dec. 10, 2000, when he moved out to attend pilot school in Arizona. At one point in the interview, the 9/11 investigators asked Shaikh about another Saudi, {{Omar al-Bayoumi}}. From the Commission document: "Dr. Xxxxxx [shaikh] noted that Omar al-Bayoumi also visited al-Hazmi at his house. Dr. Xxxxxx knew
al-Bayoumi as a Saudi national who Dr. Xxxxxx met at the ICSD.
Al-Bayoumi stated to Dr. Xxxxxx when he visited, that `I referred them (al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar) to you.' Dr. Xxxxxx restated that his was not the case and that he met the two in the hallway of the ICSD after the Friday prayer service.''
The report continued: "Al-Hazmi did not like al-Bayoumi and told Dr. Xxxxxx that al-Bayoumi was `an agent for the Saudis.'
Al-Hazmi complained to Dr. Xxxxxx that al-Bayoumi videotaped people associated with the ICSD constantly. Dr. Xxxxxx noted that was his experience when he attended events at the ICSD. Dr. Xxxxxx said that al-Bayoumi always had his videotape recorder and sought comment to the open mike on the videotape recorder. Dr. Xxxxxx stated that, `I have heard that al-Bayoumi is an agent (of the Saudis).' ''
Shaikh's candid description of al-Bayoumi as a Saudi intelligence agent, in regular contact with one of the 9/11 hijackers, is stunning in its own right. The fact that Shaikh was an FBI informant, who, according to several U.S. intelligence sources, regularly received payments from the Bureau to keep tabs on the Muslim community in the San Diego area, and hosted two of the hijackers, is equally stunning. But the full extent of the al-Bayoumi dossier, as known to the FBI and other U.S. government agencies, goes well beyond the surface scandal.
Al-Bayoumi was far more than a "`frequent visitor'' to Shaikh's home, while al-Hazmi was living there. The essential facts are as follows:
On Jan. 15, 2000, al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar arrived at Los Angeles International Airport on a flight from Kuala Lampur,
Malaysia, where they had attended a meeting of number of al-Qaeda members and allies. The two men were met at the airport by al-Bayoumi, who brought them to San Diego, rented them an apartment, co-signed the lease, and even put down a $1,500 deposit and rent. Al-Bayoumi would later arrange for the two men to enroll in flight training school.
Al-Bayoumi's association with three of the 9/11 hijackers (he hosted a third hijacker, {{Hani Hanjour}}, at his apartment
on a number of occasions, in the Spring of 2000, according to FBI and Congressional documents) prompted one Federal government source to tell reporters, "Some Federal investigators suspect that al-Bayoumi could have been an advance man for the 9/11 hijackers.''
But, al-Bayoumi was also, undisputedly, an agent of Saudi intelligence! According to the FBI and CIA dossiers on him, and
records from both the House-Senate joint intelligence probe and the 9/11 Commission, al-Bayoumi came to the United States in August 1994. He was previously employed by the Saudi Ministry of Defense, and continued to draw a salary of $3,000 a month from the Ministry after he moved to the United States, through 2002.
In the U.S., he was formally listed as an employee of Dallah Avco, a Saudi defense company that held lucrative contracts with
the Ministry of Defense and Aviation, and was owned by members of the Saudi Royal Family. According to U.S. Federal investigators, al-Bayoumi never actually did any work for Dallah Avco. However, his monthly salary from the firm increased to $3,500 right after al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar arrived in the U.S.A. Further adding to al-Bayoumi's considerable personal
finances, in June 1998, an anonymous contribution arrived from Saudi Arabia. The $500,000 was a down-payment on a new mosque, to be built in San Diego--with the proviso that Omar al-Bayoumi be appointed as director of maintenance, with an office and a guaranteed salary. Eyewitnesses told the FBI and the 9/11 Commission that al-Bayoumi was rarely seen at the mosque.
Al-Bayoumi was, however, in constant communication with top Saudi government officials in the United States and in Riyadh.
According to the records of the joint Congressional investigation and the 9/11 Commission, between January 2000--when al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar arrived in California--and May 2000, al-Bayoumi made 32 calls to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, D.C., 37 calls to the Saudi Cultural Mission in Washington, and 24 calls to the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles. His contact at the Consulate was {{Fahad Thumairy}}, who held diplomatic credentials, but was one of the most virulently anti-American imams in the area. He would be deported from the United States after 9/11.
In late June or early July 2001, al-Bayoumi and his wife, {{Manal Ahmed Bagader}}, suddenly left San Diego, and moved to
England, where al-Bayoumi ostensibly entered business school at Aston University. Within days after the 9/11 attacks, he was
detained by Scotland Yard and held for one week. However, he was released for lack of evidence, and he immediately left England for Saudi Arabia.
- Osama Basnan -
Omar al-Bayoumi was not alone in his liaison work between Saudi intelligence and some of the 9/11 hijackers. He worked
closely with another Saudi intelligence officer, Osama Basnan, who entered the United States in 1980 on a short-term tourist
visa, but remained in the country until October 2002, when he and his wife were deported as illegal aliens. An FBI report, written shortly after 9/11, warned that evidence gathered on Basnan "could indicate that he succeeded Omar al-Bayoumi and may be undertaking activities on behalf of the Government of Saudi Arabia.''
An FBI classified report, dated Oct. 3, 2001, noted that Basnan was in contact with members of the {{bin Laden}} family, who were living in the United States. In the days immediately following 9/11, members of the bin Laden family in the United States, along with other top Saudis, were quietly flown home--at a time when no other non-military flights were being allowed.
Basnan was a subject of FBI interest long before Sept. 11. In 1992, according to news accounts, Basnan was investigated by the Bureau for ties to Eritrean Islamic Jihad (EIJ), an organization that was closely linked to al-Qaeda by no later than 1996. On Oct. 17, 1992, Basnan, then living in Washington, D.C., hosted a party at his home for {{Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman}}, the so-called "blind sheikh,'' now in jail for plotting terrorist attacks in New York City. At the time, according to U.S. intelligence sources, the FBI produced a still-classified report, detailing Basnan's work for the Saudi government, despite his
ties to Islamic radicals. Indeed, U.S. intelligence sources report that Basnan was arrested on drug charges in the Los Angeles area, but the charges were dropped, after intensive pressure from the Saudi Embassy.
- The Ambassador and the Princess -
If Omar al-Bayoumi's ties to the Saudi Ministry of Defense and Aviation are firmly established, his personal ties to the
former Saudi Ambassador to the United States, {{Prince Bandar bin Sultan}}, and his wife, {{Princess Haifa}}, are even less in dispute. In April 1998, Prince Bandar, who is also the son of the Saudi Defense Minister, Prince Sultan, sent a check to Basnan in the amount of $15,000. Bandar claims that the check was an "act of charity,'' in response to a written appeal by Basnan for help in paying medical bills for his wife.
Beginning in November 1999, just weeks before the two 9/11 hijackers arrived at the Los Angeles Airport, Princess Haifa began sending monthly cashiers checks, from her account at Riggs National Bank in Washington, to Basnan's wife, {{Majida Ibrahim Ahmad Dweikat}}. The checks continued until May 2002. The royal couple sent a total of $53-72,000 to Basnan and his wife. According to the House-Senate joint investigation, many of the cashier checks from Princess Haifa to Basnan's wife were signed over to the wife of al-Bayoumi. Most of these transactions took place while Basnan and al-Bayoumi were "handling'' the financial affairs of at least two of the 9/11 hijackers, al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. And the pair of Saudi intelligence officers also had some, as yet not-fully-known ties to a third hijacker, {{Hani Hanjour}}.
- Prince Bandar's BAE Bounty -
At the time that Prince Bandar and Princess Haifa were making their "charitable'' contributions to Basnan and al-Bayoumi, the then-Saudi Ambassador to the United States was on the receiving end of at least $2 billion in kickbacks from Great Britain's premier defense firm, BAE Systems. The BAE scandal exploded into the public view several years ago, when BBC, the
London {Guardian}, and other publications revealed that BAE was making tens of billions of dollars in payouts to Saudi Defense Ministry officials, and other members of the Saudi Royal Family, in return for arms contracts worth a fortune.
The BAE-Saudi scandal dated all the way back to 1985, when Prince Bandar personally brokered a deal with then-British Prime Minister {{Margaret Thatcher}}, to sell an initial $40 billion in BAE military hardware and services to Saudi Arabia, in return for Saudi crude oil. The deal, cynically known as "al-Yamamah'' ("the Dove'') was far more than a barter arrangement. BAE padded the costs of the fighter jets, training planes, air defense systems and support services by an estimated one-third, to launder payoffs to top Saudis--including Prince Bandar. In return, Saudi Arabia delivered the equivalent of one super-tanker of oil {per day} (on average) to BAE, which had a contract with British Petroleum and Royal Dutch Shell, to immediately sell the oil on the spot market.
For the Saudis, it was a lucrative deal. Even aside from the kickbacks that lined the pockets of many a Saudi prince and ministry official, the crude oil cost the Saudis under $5 a barrel. BP and Royal Dutch Shell sold the oil at fantastic markups.
As the result of this unique arrangement, an offshore Anglo-Saudi intelligence slush fund was amassed, amounting to
hundreds of billions of dollars, starting in 1985. In a semi-official biography of Prince Bandar, published several years
ago, author William Simpson candidly wrote that al-Yamamah was, first and foremost, a geo-strategic partnership between London and Riyadh, which funneled money covertly to the Afghan mujahideen who were battling the Soviet Army in the 1980s; funded Chad in its border war with Libya; and bypassed the U.S. Congress to deliver American military hardware to the Saudi Air Force.
Some senior U.S. intelligence officials insist that a full investigation of Prince Bandar's role in the al-Yamamah scheme would reveal that some of the BAE payoffs went from the Bank of England, to Bandar's account at Riggs National Bank--into the
hands of Basnan, al-Bayoumi, and the California 9/11 hijackers cell. By Aug. 2, 2003, so many questions had been raised about the Bandar payoffs to Basnan, that the Ambassador was forced to issue a personal statement, through the Saudi Embassy, branding the allegations "baseless and not true,'' nothing more than "rumor, innuendo, and untruths.'' He cited President George W. Bush, who "praised the Saudi commitment to fighting terrorism.''
Bandar's efforts to cover up the Saudi government hand in 9/11, by invoking the words of President Bush, only served to
further infuriate those U.S. officials who were trying to get to the bottom of the Sept. 11 plot. House and Senate intelligence
committee investigators knew, for example, that when their final "Report of the Joint Inquiry into the Terrorist Attacks of Sept. 11, 2001'' was submitted to the White House for final review before publication, the entire text of a 28-page chapter,
documenting evidence of Saudi government support for the hijackers--including the Bandar payments to Basnan--was blocked from publication and remains classified to this day.
In a recent meeting with the families of the 9/11 victims, President Barack Obama was pressed to declassify the chapter.
Both Presidents Bush were so close to Prince Bandar that the longtime Saudi Ambassador was widely referred to as an "honorary member of the Bush family.'' The G.W. Bush White House commitment to brutally suppress the evidence of the Anglo-Saudi hand in 9/11 was so deep that Osama Basnan, the Saudi intelligence officer, felt confident enough to be in Houston, Texas, on April 24-25, 2002, when then-Saudi Crown Prince (now King) Abdullah, along with Prince Bandar, visited Bush 43 at his Crawford ranch.
The Prince's entourage was massive--eight planeloads of aides and hangers-on. Among the crowd were three Saudi officials suspected of ties to al-Qaeda. The "embarrassing'' incident was suppressed, along with Basnan's presence in nearby Houston, where he was reportedly meeting with a billionaire Saudi prince who was part of the Crawford entourage.
Four months later, Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.), who chaired the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which conducted the joint Congressional 9/11 probe along with the House Intelligence Committee, declared that, to his knowledge, the CIA had
"incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi government.'' He would later emphasize the point in his book on the joint Congressional probe, {Intelligence Matters}.
- Britain: State Sponsor of Terrorism -
In December 2000, the editors of {EIR} submitted a lengthy memorandum to then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, seeking an investigation of British government sponsorship of international terrorism (see below). The memo, prepared with the assistance of State Department attorneys, who provided {EIR} with the official criteria for placing a nation on the list of "state sponsors of terrorism,'' relied exclusively on official government documents, from no fewer than nine nations, that had formally protested British government protection, and, in some cases, financing of active terrorist cells on British soil. The
{EIR} memo was triggered by a rash of asymmetric warfare attacks, many by groups spawned out of the 1979-89 Afghanistan War against the Soviets, a war covertly bankrolled and logistically backed by British, French, American, Saudi, and Israeli intelligence services.
The British government's protection was extended to such terror groups as the {{Kurdish Workers Party (PKK)}}, which had a radio transmitter in Britain that broadcast marching orders for terrorist attacks into eastern Turkey; the {{Egyptian Islamic
Jihad}}, which carried out a brutal 1997 attack on Japanese tourists at Luxor, Egypt, and had earlier assassinated Egyptian
President Anwar Sadat; the Indian terrorist group {{Lashkar e-Taibi}}, which carried out assassinations and hijackings in
1999; and Chechen terrorists, who were recruited out of mosques in England.
Among the charges against the British government: British intelligence had looked the other way, throughout the 1990s, as
{{Osama bin Laden}} moved between Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, and England. The London {Times} admitted that, throughout the second half of 1996, bin Laden made frequent trips to London, "clearly under the protection of British authorities.'' The {Times} had spotted bin Laden, earlier in the 1990s, at the London estate of {{Khalid bin Mahfouz,}} a wealthy Saudi banker who was a leading Muslim Brotherhood funder of a wide array of Jihadi groups, and a major shareholder in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI).
In 1994, the French and Algerian governments filed diplomatic de@aamarches with the British Foreign Office, charging that bin Laden had met with leaders of the {{Islamic Group of Algeria (GIA)}}, which was then carrying out terror bombings in both countries. French intelligence tracked the bin Laden/GIA meetings to a bin Laden-owned estate in Wembley. For three months in 1994, according to other French sources, including investigator Roland Jacquard, Osama bin Laden lived on Harrow Road in London.
Even after he left the country, bin Laden's leading propagandists operated out of London. According to "conventional wisdom,'' the British protection of a worldwide nexus of terrorist organizations was based on an understanding that the groups would not operate on British soil, or target British interests abroad. But, anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the history of the British Empire, from the early days of the British East India Company, through Lord Palmerston's sponsorship of the Young Europe, Young America, and Young Turk operations of the 19th Century, realizes immediately that this is a fraud.
Sponsorship of asymmetric warfare is at the very heart of the British/Venetian method. And the Anglo-Saudi al-Yamamah project is the 20th- and 21st-Century equivalent of the British East India Company's sponsorship of legions of ethnic and religious separatist groups, assuring a ready stable of political assassins and perpetrators of "chaos on demand'' around the globe.
- Will the Bush League Coverup End? -
Even as investigators for the joint Congressional inquiry and the 9/11 Commission attempted to get at the role of Saudi
intelligence in 9/11, a vicious coverup was being imposed directly from the White House, and with full complicity of
elements within the FBI and Department of Justice. It became so blatant, that three 9/11 Commission investigators--Kevin Scheid, Col. Lorry Fenner, and Gordon Lederman--drafted a memo to their staff supervisors, Dan Marcus and Steve Dunne, proposing guidelines for FBI and other "Minders.'' The memo bitterly complained that FBI and other "Minders'' sitting in on
interviews with Commission witnesses, interfered in the questioning and intimidated the witnesses:
"Minders have positioned themselves physically and have conducted themselves in a manner that we believe intimidates
witnesses from giving full and candid responses to our questions. Minders generally sat next to witnesses at the table and across from Commission staff, conveying to witnesses that Minders are participants in interviews and are of equal status to witnesses. Moreover, minders take verbatim notes of witnesses' statements and may engage in retribution. We believe that the net effect of Minders' conduct, whether intentionally or not, is to intimidate witnesses and to interfere with witnesses providing full and candid responses.''
The memo concluded with a plea: "We request that you raise the subject of Minders' conduct with the Executive Branch in
order to prevent Minders from comporting themselves in these ways in the future.''
Attached to the memo were ten proposed rules of conduct, to block the intimidation. Apart from the fact that the memorandum was declassified and released at the National Archive earlier this year, no action was taken; and the Bush White House coverup--typified by the suppression of the Congressional report section dealing with Saudi government complicity in 9/11--continued to the end.
- Condoleezza Rice Lied -
The coverup, in at least one case, may have involved contempt of Congress. When a battle erupted between the 9/11
Commission and the White House, over the public disclosure of segments of a Presidential Daily Briefing from August 2001, in
which President Bush was explicitly warned about a high-probability al-Qaeda attack against the continental United States, then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice testified before Congress that there was no "actionable intelligence'' provided
by the intelligence community, and that no one could have anticipated the events of 9/11.
In stark contrast to Rice's sworn testimony, U.S. intelligence had strong indications that, not only was al-Qaeda planning to hijack planes, but was planning to use them as weapons. According to the third document released this year by the 9/11 Commission, the Federal Aviation Administration and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) conducted a series of exercises, as early as October 1998--shortly after the attacks on two U.S. embassies in Africa--involving hijackings.
The last of the exercises, "Vigilant Guardian I,'' took place between Sept. 6-10, 2001. In one of the scenarios, described in a
9/11 Commission summary chronology, a London-to-New York flight is hijacked by "terrorists with explosives who plan to detonate them over NYC.'' Clearly, the idea that terrorists were planning to use aircraft as a weapon against New York City, was on the minds of some Federal counter-terror officials prior to 9/11.
- Basnan's Free Ride Home -
On Oct. 21, 2002, a Federal judge in California ordered Osama Yousef Basnan and his wife, Majida Ibrahim Ahmad Dweikat,
to be deported from the United States--for immigration violations! The Saudi intelligence officer who had been in the country illegally since the early 1980s, who had bankrolled, along with Omar al-Bayoumi, at least two of the 9/11 hijackers, was so pleased with the judge's order to send him back to Saudi Arabia, that he walked up to the Federal prosecutor at the end of
the hearing and shook his hand, thanking him profusely for the free ride home.
The message delivered that day in court could not have been clearer: The Anglo-Saudi terror nexus was off limits. The idea
that two of America's most trusted so-called allies--Great Britain and Saudi Arabia--had betrayed the United States, and
played an indispensible role in the worst terrorist atrocity in history on American soil, was to be buried.
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How about digging into the (unconfirmed) report that Murdoch was a high CIA agent
involved in the Nugan Hand Bank scandal, and that his payoff was control of major
media, where he implements CIA asset control.
Murdoch's Jewish connections are also seldom explored. (See Google)
Jack
Robert Murdoch was protege of British black op specialist "Lord Beaverbrook" aka "Max Aitken(?)"
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Here's another one for you Bill.
Thursday, March 15, 2007
Upshaw History
3 STRIKES FOR UPSHAW?
Remains of Upshaw's ex-wife found
AFTON, Okla. -- A skeleton found last month under a fence on rural property was identified as the ex-wife of Gene Upshaw.
The cause of Jimmye Lee Hill-Upshaw's death is under investigation, said Kym Koch, spokeswoman for the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.
It does not appear the 59-year-old woman was the victim of foul play, Koch said.
Hill-Upshaw married Gene Upshaw in 1967 and later divorced. They had one son, Eugene Upshaw III. Gene Upshaw is the executive director of the NFL Players Association.
The woman did not have a known permanent address, which made it difficult to identify her, Koch said. Authorities believe she visited Grand Lake Mental Health Clinic in Afton earlier this year.
An Afton family member found the skeletal remains Sept. 23.
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APOLLO 11 ASTRONAUT BUZZ ALDRIN CALLS FOR MANNED FLIGHT TO MARS
TO OVERCOME GLOBAL ECONOMIC PROBLEMS
July 4 (LPAC) - Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second man
to walk on the Moon, said in an optimistic July 3 interview with
Britain's {Daily Telegraph}, "Given the backdrop of the ailing
world economy, space exploration could offer younger generations
much-needed goals, and I think we need to look quite a way down
into the future to inspire our young people with that greatness."
Aldrin continued, "America helped to take the world to the Moon
40 years ago, and America certainly can help lead the world in
the direction of Mars." He added that setting up habitation on
the surface of the red planet was a "wonderful objective for
humanity."
The {Telegraph} asked Aldrin for his views on global
warming. Aldrin said he was skeptical of climate change theories
specifying, "I think the climate has been changing for billions
of years, and if it's warming now, it may cool off later. I'm not
in favor of just taking short-term isolated situations and
depleting our resources to keep our climate just the way it is
today."
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NASA, benefits to the economy.
JFK knew what he was doing when he launched his space program in 1961.
Here is a report from 1975 discussing the benefits to the US economy from investmenting in NASA.
Hope the link works
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Beware of British Anti-Vaccination Operation
by Laurence Hecht Editor, 21st Century Science & Technology
June 29, 2009
A British-orchestrated Delphic operation is afoot to dupe
Americans and others into opposing mass vaccination against the
swine flu. The operation appears specially targeted at populist
layers, of a sort well known to our phone teams, with some reach
also into Green layers. The current operation features a lawsuit
filed in an Austrian court in April, charging that the Austrian
subsidiary of the American pharmaceutical company Baxter, is part
of a genocidal plot to use flu vaccine as a bio-weapon to reduce
world population by 5 billion people in the next 10 years. The
suit was brought by Jane Burgermeister, a science writer of green
inclination, apparently of dual Austrian and Irish origin, who
has written for the British science organ {Nature}, the {British
Medical Journal}, and {American Prospect}.
While we welcome serious investigation into the possibility
that Prince Philip's operatives might be cooking up new means of
implementing their genocidal intentions, nothing in the lawsuit
provides the slightest scientific evidence for such a contention.
The telltale sign of an operation is that nearly every entity in
the world but the British Empire is cited as responsible for the
genocidal intention. In particular the known susceptibilities of
American populist dupes are massaged by citing the United Nations
Organization, the Bilderbergers, and even the Illuminati as among
those responsible.
The suit also invokes the possible connection of Presidents
Obama and Bush, the U.S. Federal Reserve, JP Morgan and Goldman
Sachs in complicity with Baxter AG's alleged genocidal plot. To
enhance its Delphic appeal, the suit also invokes the Kissinger
NSSM 200 Memorandum of 1974, the existence of FEMA security
camps, and alleged mass gravesite preparations in the U.S.A.
Lacking cogent evidence for the allegation of a specific
intention to poison flu vaccines, the lawsuit offers as
supporting evidence a potpourri of circumstantial evidence, much
of it known to us, and draws liberally on Wikipedia entries for
technical issues relating to swine flu virus mechanisms.
While opposing vaccination as a plot, the lawsuit also
charges that the swine flu and avian flu were engineered in
laboratories, and falsely asserts that re-assortant viruses
cannot occur naturally. The logic of the stated position is of
the same type so often encountered from impotent conspirophiles:
An engineered virus is out there, but we should not attempt to
fight it with vaccine, because the pharmaceutical companies will
poison the vaccine. In other words: You can't win; they're too
powerful, anyway; so go home and die. Those who choose to become
the willing victims of such manipulation may deserve their fate.
These facts, and the telling failure to mention the leading
world entity behind the presently genocidal intention. most
clearly identifies the lawsuit and surrounding publicity as a
classic British social control operation. If successful in
evoking resistance to flu vaccination, the Delphic operation will
cause the very effect which its credulous dupes are being rallied
to oppose--the spread of a deadly flu pandemic which has the
potential to escalate into a mass killer. True patriots should
recall Cotton Mather and Zabdiel Boylston's courageous battle to
introduce the smallpox vaccine into the Massachusetts Bay Colony,
and reject this new version of a very old British game.
[For further elaboration, people confused by this ploy
should be referred to the excerpt from the June 27 webcast, now
posted on the LPAC site: www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=10835 ]
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Just to show how dirty politics can be I am posting a quote from a famous "liberal" Senator regarding "Healthcare" for the third world nations. Does anyone care to venture a guess who made these comments/ recommendations?
Quote:
American industrial, high technology for the model of health care has hurt medical care in the United States, and we cannot allow it to be established elsewhere.... We need primary care facilities; facilities that will be run by local people to solve local problems. We need simple basic systems constructed from the ground up by people ... with a simple, basic drug list to meet local needs.
"We produce 25,000 pharmaceuticals in the United States; we cannot and should not export these. These drugs do not meet the needs of these people any more than costly diagnostic equipment does. They are simple people with simple problems. They have pain which should be alleviated, and it should be alleviated without using procedures or equipment which will frighten them. We must develop a list of essential drugs: aspirin, penicillin, malaria pills, as well as local herbal medicines that people can feel comfortable with."
And in the United States: "We would do better to close down our centers. That would provide for basic needs as well as contain costs. You don't need a physician on duty; paraprofessionals can tend to most problems, particularly in our urban poor centers. They can provide palliative care and appropriate drugs at a reasonable cost."
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Have you got the section where he actually gives him a copy of the book?
Part One shows Maher holding up a copy of the book.
This segment is 8:34 minutes long - If you skip up to 4:22 - they get into it briefly before Maher asks Stone about drugs and they get off on different topics.
I don't think Maher wants to talk about the assassination.
He says he read the books, but wants to talk about drugs.
http://broadcatching.wordpress.com/2009/06...r-june-26-2009/
It's a plug.
Here is the relevant part:
4:22
Oliver Stone: I’m doing a ten part documentary. I’ve been working on it for a year and a half about the American national security state and how it came to be. It’s a fascinating story. And one of the stories is the Kennedy story. And there’s book I was talking about….
Bill Maher: Yes, you sent it to me. I read it.
OS:James Douglas is a Catholic...this is very factual book about his murder it says here, ‘why he died and why it matters….the Kennedys - they had that moment in the sun when there was almost this nuclar war that almost wipped us out.
If Bush was in the White House we would have had a nuclear war.
Kennedy saying no.
If Reagan was in the White House. If Bush Sr. was in the White House.
Maybe Clinton.
Let’s be honest here.
Will Obama resist the military when they say push the button when the military says action is required…..?
BM: Everyone in the public’s eye is characterized in some way….. It must be terribly annoying to be caracturectured as the conspiracy guy, because you’re a lot more thoughtful than that.
OS: We’re in the same boat. Let’s fight for it. It’s a question of knowledge and you bring people on this show who are knowledgeable and smart, young. There’s hope. It’s gridlock verses knowledge. We know these things. Obama knows it. He’s an analytical man and ethical man…..How do you change health costs? The people on Wall Street tell me that the health care is the 600 pound guerilla in the room, or is it 800 pound guerilla in the room, followed by The Pentagon, climate control…these are three big guerillas…..
Bill,
I am surprised that Stone would accept "advice" from Wall Street regarding "healthcare". Oliver Stone did a fantastic expose of Wall Street with his movie of the same name starring Michael Douglas. Stone showed that these guys on Wall Street were looters and murderers in the Venetian tradition.
President Obama intends to enact Hitler styled healthcare rationing, policies that will kill the "useless eaters". If you're 70 years or older he intends to "kill you". If you're poor, he intends to kill you, by denying you healthcare. What Obama and his healthcare advisers in the White House are proposing is "no different" than what Hitler enacted in 1939.
To have Stone parrot the "Obama/Wall Street" line that "healthcare" is the 600 lb gorilla is disturbing to say the least.
Healthcare is not broken, the real issue is the economy has been destroyed over the four decades since the murder of Kennedy. What's required is another Franklin Roosevelt who will crush these Wall Street parasites and start the job of rebuilding the US economy.
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Jack: I presume that - as per normal - you'll not admit that your anonymous person has made an error? Even when the evidence is beyond dispute?
Whatever shortcomings the visual evidence display pro- or con- actual landings, it is hard to believe we went to the moon *that many times.*
An enormous siphon of cash into defense contracting and the black budget instead?
And was that how JFK wanted it?
The people of Apollo would disagree; to paraphrase Gene Cernan "We stopped, just when we getting good at it!".
The budget cuts killed Apollo 18, 19 and 20, and some of that was no doubt for the Vietnam War. Even so, there were many in NASA who were fearful that something bad would happen eventually, that we shouldn't "push our luck". There were calls to stop even after Apollo 12!
Gene Cernan is correct. They made drastic budget cuts to JFK's space program under LBJ and they eventually killed the program by 1972. In 1962 JFK asked Congress funding for "nuclear powered" booster rockets. You don't require nuclear powered booster rockets to get to the moon. It's clear JFK had a vision beyond landing a man on the moon. He intended to go to Mars using the moon as the launch point.
JFK's space program acted like a science driver program for the US economy. His space program was the largest peace time expenditure in US history. The space program returned $0.10 for every penny invested in the program.
Government and Wall Street "Budget" cutters today would have a hissy fit with all that "spending". What they don't understand is investing "credit" in productive ventures like the Apollo Space program returns significant amounts of real wealth to the economy as a whole. It increases living standards for all Americans.
Hell , they might even try to kill JFK if he tried to repeat his space program today.
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Interesting documents from post Cuban Missiles Crisis 1962
http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/BB/A/H/E/S/_/bbahes.ocr
http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/BB/A/H/E/U/_/bbaheu.ocr
You should also look into the original thread "Tobacco Companies 100 years of deceit" that was "locked" by moderator Evan Burton. The latter part of that thread covers the role of RJR , Draper, Bowman Medical Center in the practice of eugenics and sterilization against Afro Americans in Winston Salem. One of the forum members father was a high ranking executive at RJR and as a result of this fact, the thread was shut down to prevent any further inquiry/publicity.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...mp;#entry167336
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From the standpoint of the current attempted coup d'état beginning Sept. 11, it should be noted that Warren H. Carroll, who worked briefly for the CIA in 1959-60, was part of the milieu of the Kennedy assassination prior to the creation of the SCC.
In 1963, Carroll was a script writer for a Dallas-based radio show called "Lifeline," funded by H.L. Hunt, and a member of Conservatives U.S.A. (CUSA). The head of CUSA in Dallas at the time was Robert Morris, who was formerly chief counsel for Sen. Joe McCarthy, thus working side-by-side with Roy Cohn. By 1963, Morris was President of the University of Dallas. CUSA took out the famous ad in a Dallas newspaper the day Kennedy was shot, which read: "Kennedy, Wanted for Treason," with a black obituary border. Days later, a script written by Carroll on "Heroism" was found, according to the Warren Commission Report, in the car of Jack Ruby the day he killed Oswald.
This, then, was the founder of Christendom College.
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http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/
The Houma Bunker Raid Revisited - By William Kelly
The Houma, La. bunker raid of the Schlumbuger Wells Company munitions and arms cache, which took place in the late summer of 1961, included participants who later became entwined in the New Orleans aspects of the assassination of President Kennedy.
The owner of the Schlumberger company, Jean DeMenil, was also a close associate of those in the Texas White Russian community who assisted the accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, when he returned from the Soviet Union with his Russian wife and child.
There are a number of covert operations that are related to what happened at Dealey Plaza, but the Houma Bunker Raid is one of the best documented and worthy of further study on a number of levels.
The exact date of the raid has never been established, and it has been published as being in July, August and September, 1961, with Garrison’s Grand Jury investigation saying it occurred “on or around August 22, 1961,” some four months after the Bay of Pigs.
The munitions and arms taken in the raid were originally said to be destined for the Bay of Pigs, or to be used in the OAS revolt of the French Generals against DeGaul. When they weren’t used in either event, they were taken to the New Orleans offices of Guy Bannister at 544 Camp Street, which was used by Lee Harvey Oswald in his Fair Play for Cuba Committee activities in the summer of 1963, and to the Lake Pontchartrain anti-Castro Cuban training camp owned by William McClaney, which was raided by the FBI in July, 1963.
There has been the question as to whether some of these arms and ammunition were part of the Venezuelan Arms Cache, a Northwoods operation, or used in the attack on Gen. Walker, the assassination of the President or the murder of Dallas policeman J.D. Tippit, since the source of the ammunition in those incidents were never determined.
The Houma bunker raid has been the subject of a New Orleans Grand Jury and a libel case brought on by Gordon Novel, and is frequently mentioned in JFK assassination books and articles, including Jim Garrison’s Playboy interview, and is featured in Oliver Stone’s film JFK.
The participants in the raid included David Ferrie, Sergio Aracha Smith, Rancier Blaise Ehlinger, Carlos Quiroga, Layton Martins, Luis Rabel Nunez, Gordon Novel, Novel’s wife Marlene Mancuso and Andrew Blackmon, an ex-Marine who carried around a bolt action rifle that he frequently cocked and dry fired for fun.
Leaving from and returning to David Ferrie’s apartment at night, they traveled in two vehicles, Gordon Novel’s 1959 Lincoln, which he drove, and a laundry truck, which Layton Martins reportedly drove.
Luis Rabel Nunes owned the laundry truck used in the raid that was also used by the Catholic Church to assist Cuban refugees, and resembles a truck said to be seen at Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination.
Luis Rabel Nunez and his brother Capt. Jose Ricardo Rabel Nunez, of the Cuban military, were childhood friends and neighbors of Fidel Castro. Capt. Jose Rabel was well positioned in the Cuban military before he defected and was used by the CIA to identify other disenchanted military officers who could be used in a coup in Cuba, if such a contingency plan developed.
It’s not clear how Luis’ laundry truck was used by the Church for the Cuban Refugees, but Luis was succeeded as head of the New Orleans Cuban Revolutionary Council by Frank Bartes, who owned a Cuban railroad before it was confiscated by Castro, and he ran a Washateria in New Orleans.
A. J. Weberman wrote, “…in a telephone interview Luis Rabel denied he met David Ferrie or Guy Banister, but said he knew Sergio Arcacha Smith. Regarding the burglary, "Well, I used to run a dry cleaners, and I had a truck that I used to loan to about 40 or 50 exiles here. Arcacha asked me to loan him the truck to move some furniture. Whether the truck was used to move anything other than furniture is beyond me."
Well, one thing they used the truck for was to move the munitions from the Houma bunker to Ferrie’s apartment, Bannister’s offices in New Orleans and the Lake Pontchartrain training camp.
According to a CIA memo, the Houma bunker was NOT used to store CIA supplies at all, though they do acknowledge using the Schulmberger Company, whose board of directors today include former CIA head John Deutch and former 9/11 Commissioner Jamie Gorlick.
The same CIA memo that denies the Houma bunker was used to store CIA supplies also acknowledges that the CIA did operate an anti-Castro Cuban training camp in Louisiana that included a munitions supply cache, which was connected to CIA spymaster David Atlee Phillips.
There was some confusion as to whether it was a burglary at all, as Garrison contended in persuading the grand jury to subpoena and indict Sergio Aracha Smith and Gordon Novel, both of whom fled the state rather than testify. Some of the participants claimed they were given a key to the bunker by a CIA contact, while others testified that burglary tools were used to break into the bunker, which was suppose to be used for securing munitions and blasting caps used in drilling oil wells.
The cases the arms were stored in were said to be labeled either “SCHULMBERGER” or “INTERARMCO,” the company owned by Sam Cummings, the Philadelphia arms merchant who supplied the guns for many a revolution in South and Central America.
On the return trip back to Ferrie’s apartment, some of the participants fell asleep, but were awaken by the explosion of some dynamite that was apparently thrown from the truck by Jerome Andrew Blackmon, the ex-Marine who liked to play with guns.
The most serious connection to the assassination of President Kennedy is Jean DeMenil, the owner of Schlumberger, who lived in Houston and was known for his art collection, and was part of the network of White Russians who befriended Oswald when he returned from the Soviet Union.
While the Catholic Relief Services in Dallas also assisted the Cuban refugees, it was the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia that was the center of the social and religious life of the White Russian community. Both the Catholic Cuban Refuge society and the White Russian Church were financially supported by the CIA through the Catherwood Fund of Philadelphia.
Gus Russo, of course, puts his false spin on the whole episode, trying to pin the blame on RFK, as he does for Dealey Plaza as well, but his version is included here too for you to judge.
The Garrison Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy
By William W. Turner Ramparts Magazine, January, 1968
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….A man who knew Banister well has told Garrison that Bannister became associated with the Office of Naval Intelligence through the recommendation of Guy Johnson, an ONI reserve officer and the first attorney for Clay Shaw when he was arrested by Garrison.
A copyrighted story in the New Orleans States-Item, April 25, 1967, further illuminates the Camp Street scene. The newspaper, which at the time had an investigative team working parallel to the Garrison probe, reported that a reliable source close to Banister said he had seen 50 to 100 boxes marked "Schlumberger" in Banister's office-storeroom early in 1961 before the Bay of Pigs. The boxes contained rifle grenades, land mines and unique "little missiles." Banister explained that "the stuff would just be there overnight ... a bunch of fellows connected with the Cuban deal asked to leave it there overnight." It was all right, assured Banister, "I have approval from somebody."
The "somebody," one can surmise from the Gordon Novel episode which follows, was the CIA. Novel is wanted by the DA as a material witness in the 1961 burglary of the Schlumberger Well Co. munitions dump near New Orleans. Subpoenaed by the grand jury last March, Novel fled to McLean, Virginia, next door to the CIA complex at Langley, and took a lie detector test administered by a former Army intelligence officer which, he boasted to the press, proved Garrison's probe was a fraud. He then skipped first to Montreal and then to Columbus, Ohio, from where Governor James Rhodes, in one of the most absurd stipulations ever attached to a normally routine procedure, refuses to extradite him unless Garrison agrees not to question him on the assassination.
From his Ohio sanctuary the fugitive cryptically asserted that the munitions caper was one of "the most patriotic burglaries in history." When an enterprising reporter took him to a marathon party, Novel's indiscreet tongue loosened further. According to the States-Item article, Novel's oft-repeated account was that the munitions bunker was a CIA staging point for war materiel destined for use in the impending Bay of Pigs invasion. He is quoted as saying that on the day the munitions were picked up, he "was called by his CIA contact and told to join a group which was ordered to transport munitions from the bunker to New Orleans." The key to the bunker was provided by his CIA contact. Novel reportedly said the others in the CIA group at the bunker were David Ferrie, Sergio Arcacha Smith -- New Orleans delegate to the Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front -- and several Cubans. The munitions, according to his account, were dropped in Novel's office, Ferrie's home and Banister's office-storeroom………
From JFK The Book of the Film by Oliver Stone, Zachary Sklar :
Ferrie, banister and several anti-Castro activists were implicated in a late 1961 Raid on a munitions bunker leased by Schlumberger Wells services in Houma, Louisiana. [HSCA X. p. 127; Flammonde, The Kennedy Conspiracy, p. 118-9; New Orleans States-Item, Apr. 25, 1967; Brener, the Garrison Case; A Study in Abuse of Power, p. 48-9] Some of the material taken in the Houma raid resurfaced on August 1, 1963 when the FBI raided the arms cache at the Cuban exile training camp on Lake Pontchartrain.
Garrison alleged that the Houma raid was organized by the CIA to procure weapons for the local anti-Castro forces – making the Houma outing more of a simple “pick-up” than a “raid” (the HSCA maintained that the arms were “stolen,” avoiding the issue of CIA involvement). There are strong indications that Garrison was right. New Orleans attorney Milton E. Brener represented some of the individuals implicated in the raid and writes: “it appears clear that the Schlumberger Wells bunker was serving that night as a transfer point for explosives with the acquiescence of its management and with officials of the United States Government, including, presumably , the Central Intelligence Agency.” [brener, The Garrison Case: A Study in the Abuse of Power, p. 48-49]. When reached by telephone, Brener said his information on the raid was subject to attorney-client privilege and would not discuss his sources.”
Gus Russo, Live by the Sword, p. 150-151 :
The Houma Weapons Transfer
According to the CIA’s own documents and its own admissions, one of the firms that co-operated with the CIA in its preparations to wage secret war against Castro’s recently-declared Marxist government was Schlumberger Wells Services Company. In fact, a 1967 CIA memo released in 1992 confirms that its Domestic Contact Service (DCS) “has discreet and continuing contact with the main Schlumberger office in Houston and branch offices in Minneapolis and elsewhere.” 82
Located in the little town of Houma, deep in the Mississippi River delta, and 50 miles southwest of New Orleans, Schlumberger served as a small arms depot for the CIA. It permitted a bunker leased for storing blasting supplies to be used as a cache for ammunition, bomb casings and other military items, some of which were shipped abroad – presumably to CIA staging areas in Guatemala or areas elsewhere within striking distance of Cuba. The arms were shipped in crates bearing the markings “Schlumberger” and “machinery.” Other weapons were earmarked for rebels in the French West Indies, but were never shipped. Some of the weaponry was to have been used in the Bay of Pigs invasion. The government’s fumbling of the invasion upset the firm, which subsequently decided to terminate its contract with the CIA. 83.
According to Guy Banister’s attorney, Guy Johnson, Banister learned that some of the munitions remained at the Houma depot after the invasion. He thought that they should be put to use in the post Bay of Pigs anti-Castro effort. Even the straight-laced FBI man, Banister wanted to finesse the issue legally.
“Banister went to Washington, and saw a high official in the Justice Department,” says Johnson. “Presumably it was RFK.” 84. At this time, FBI agent Regis Kennedy – who had no blood relationship to the Kennedys in Washington – made one of his regular appearances in Banister’s office. 85 According to Banister associate Jack Martin, “It was about this time that he ‘letters of marque’ and keys showed up.”
A “Letter-Marque” is a legal device, generated by a high federal authority, that hasn’t been employed since the time of Thomas Jefferson. Its purpose is to give legal license to someone who is about to commit a quasi-legal action. More importantly, it prevents prosecution should the person be apprehended by local authorities. Jack Martin recalled some of the wording of the alleged letter: “You are hereby directed to seize munitions or arms, the property of a foreign government, that are illegally located within the United States, using any and all means to do so.” 86
The Letter-Marque was on Justice Department stationary, signed by Robert Kennedy. It was allegedly observed by Jack Martin, Gordon Novel (who says he was involved in the Houma transfer), Guy Johnson, and Banister friend Kent Courtney. Banister and the local anti-Castro activists were thus given the go-ahead to “liberate” the weaponry.
When the weapons transfer was carried out that summer, it became clear that the CIA and the FBI were heavily involved. The transfer didn’t happen overnight; in fact, military supplies were confiscated over a period of three months. In preparation for the transfer, says Jack Martin, Guy Banister (his boss) telephoned M. E. Loy, manager of Schlumberger Well Services Company. The point of the call was to make sure that the FBI or CIA would supply keys to the bunker where the weapons were stored. On another, earlier trip, the work party came armed with a pair of wire cutters in place of the promised keys, which had not been delivered.
“It was a CIA operation,” says Aracha’s attorney, Frank Hernandez. “It was set up so that Schlumberger could report it (the weapons transfer) as a robbery, and be reimbursed by their insurance company. They went in at midnight and the material was waiting for them on a loading dock. We later verified that the CIA indeed reimbursed the insurance company.” 87
Layton Martins, participating in the transfer, remembers one of the trips to the bunker. For this excursion, keys to the depot were in hand and the munitions were delivered to the office of Guy Banister and Associates. “It seemed like there was a whole caravan there, led by David Ferrie,” says Martens. The young participant “didn’t know what the hell was going on,” except for having heard that the transfers were conducted by order of David Ferrie, who participated, and, by inference, under orders of Sergio Arcacha Smith. 88
Arcacha’s attorney, Frank Hernandez, has long believed that Arcacha participated personally in the weapons transfer, but Arcacha denies this. Martens supports Arcacha’s denial, saying, “I don’t remember Sergio there.” However, Arcacha did tell Ronnie Caire that on one occasion, Arcacha drove a truck-load of “plastic explosives” from Houma, Louisiana to New Orleans because no one else wanted to drive the truck.89 Arcacha’s good friend Carlos Quiroga also stated that he participated in the transfer with Banister, Ferrie, Arcacha, and a U.S. Marine named Andrew Blackmon. 90 He put the explosives in a U-Haul trailer to be sent to Miami, Quiroga says, but it stayed in New Orleans for a long time. 91
One of the accomplices in the transfer – unwitting, he insists – was Luis Rabel Nunes, who replaced Sergio Arcacha Smith as New Orleans head of the CRC in 1962. Rabel supplied a laundry truck with which the weapons were transported – but he, like DeLaBarre, didn’t quite know what was up. “I had a laundry truck I used to loan out to help re-settler Cuban refugees – just for humanitarian reasons,” Rabel recalled recently. “The Catholic Church asked us to help out. We also helped the refugees find jobs. In that effort, we had the backing of both Mayors – Mayor Morrison and Mayor Schiro – Dr. Ochsner, and FBI agent Warren De Brueys. It wasn’t until years later that I learned they had sometimes used the truck to transfer weapons.” 92 Rabel gave a bit more information in Congressional testimony: “As far as I knew, they took them (the crates of munitions) to Lake Ponchartrain.” 93 It will be seen that Lake Ponchartrain played host to exile training camps which operated in concert with a White House-backed anti-Castro invasion force training in Central America.
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MEM: THE SCHLUMBERGER WELLS
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=497125
Rancier Blaise Ehlinger Grand Jury Testimony:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=3
HSCA Mug Book 48. Marlene Mancuso photo
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/images/0/0...48_mmancuso.jpg
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A.J. WEBERMAN :
LUIS RABEL LUIS
Luis Rabel Nunez, aka Luis Ravel, was the delegate of the Cuban Revolutionary Council in New Orleans from 1960 to 1961. Luis Rabel was the son of a native born American citizen and had been raised in comfortable circumstances, on a farm next to that of the father of Fidel Castro. He had known Fidel when both were children. When interviewed in 1977, Luis Rabel said that he had resigned and moved to Venezuela in October 1962, since the Cuban Revolutionary Council had turned out to be a "complete fiasco."Luis Rabel said the names HEMMING or Lawrence LaBorde did not ring any bells. When questioned in HUNT v. ajweberman, HUNT denied having known Luis Rabel.
FRANK BARTES 1960 TO 1962
Francisco Antonio Bates Clarens [CIA 201-289,005 also CIA 201-289,685], was the delegate of the Cuban Revolutionary Council in New Orleans from November 1962 to 1964. Frank Bartes succeeded Luis Rabel. Frank Bartes had been the president of a private railroad in pre-Castro Cuba. His firm, which employed thousands of workers and had assets of $100 million, was nationalized by Castro in 1960. When he came to the United States, he operated a New Orleans Washeteria from 1961 to 1963.
BARTES: INFORMANT
The CIA: "(Deleted) on Frank Bartes shows that he was an FBI informant (dates not given) and that his contact was with S.A. DeBRUEYS."
NODUL 24
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In September 1961 Gordon Novel took part in the burglary of a Schlumberger Well munitions bunker. He informed the FBI: " Schlumberger Well Service had an arrangement with the CIA wherein it leased a bunker in which ammunition, bomb casings and other materiel would be stored for the CIA. Eventually the materiel would be shipped out of the United States in Sclumberger boxes marked 'Machinery.' The explosives would then be shipped by boat to Cuba where they were going to be used in a diversionary operation during the Bay of Pigs invasion."
The CIA verified Gordon Novel's statement: "Novel has claimed to the press that the munitions from the bunker were to be used for a diversionary operation during the Bay of Pigs invasion. Agency officers familiar with the operation at the (deleted), have indicated that such a diversionary operation was based at (deleted), but that operation was canceled before a landing was made." Gordon Novel continued: "After the Bay of Pigs, Schlumber became upset and wanted out of its CIA contract; three months after the invasion, arrangements were made for the materiel stored in the bunker to be removed by Novel and his group. At the time the material was removed, an individual involved took some of Schlumberger's low grade powder and fuses and other material, and the incident was reported as a burglary." (Gordon Novel had a previous history of assembling bombs).
Gordon Novel said the crates of arms were stamped with the word INTERARMCO. [Police Record Jefferson Parish 1953; Memo Ivan/Garrison re: Novel rec. check; Flammonde Kennedy Conspiracy p76; Wardlaw Plot or Politics p113; New Orleans States-Item4.25.67; HUNT Day p182 CIA 1332-502, 1045] Gordon Novel reported that Andrew Jerome Blackman, David Ferrie, Sergio Arcacha Smith, and Luis Rabel were involved in the burglary…..
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From John Hofle- Southern Strategy 2001
With Schlumberger came two important figures: Jean de Menil and his wife, Dominique Schlumberger de Menil. Jean, whose background had been deliberately muddied, was a Tsarist White Russian of some stature, who had fled Russia to avoid Communist reprisals, while Dominique was the daughter of company co-founder Conrad Schlumberger. As a top official of Schlumberger, Jean de Menil's responsibilities included the company's Ibero-American operations, while Dominique was a cultural and political warfare operative who founded the Rothko Chapel as a coordinating point for all sorts of unsavory operations, including terrorist networks involved in the assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat.
While the full story of Schlumberger's intelligence remains the subject for further investigation, some aspects are already known. Jean de Menil, as documented in EIR's book Dope, Inc., was a member of the Solidarists, a group comprised of Eastern European and White Russian fascists and feudalists. Many of the Solidarists had been officials of ``quisling'' pro-Hitler governments during World War II. A leading component of the Solidarist movement was a highly professional espionage, sabotage, and assassination network called the Narodnyi Trudovoy Soyuz (NTS). The NTS had been founded by Menshevik circles in Russia in the 1920s, and functioned as one of British Intelligence's premier spy rings inside Russia. The principal Western financing conduit for the NTS and the Solidarist movement was the Tolstoy Foundation of New York, of which Jean de Menil was a director.
De Menil and Schlumberger were involved in helping to put Castro in power in Cuba, and later in attempts to overthrow him, in operations involving both the CIA and George Bush's Zapata Offshore oil company. More importantly, Jean de Menil was a key figure in Permindex, the corporate front for the assassins of John F. Kennedy and the numerous attempts on the life of French President Charles de Gaulle. Permindex was closely linked with British Intelligence's Special Operations Executive of Sir William Stephenson and Col. Louis Mortimer Bloomfield, and with the FBI's secret Division Five, headed by Bloomfield. Schlumberger's links with the intelligence community are also indicated by its close relationship to former CIA director George Bush, and the presence on its board today of former CIA director John Deutch. This is not to suggest that Schlumberger is a CIA ``front,'' however, but rather that Schlumberger is part of a much older oligarchic intelligence network, with tentacles into national intelligence agencies such as the CIA.
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The LaRouche PAC big intervention and literature saturation
of Rep. Rick Larson's (D-Wash.) huge (unplanned) town meeting
with many hundreds standing outside, is now out on the Internet
in a two-minute video, including on larouchenet. A supporter who
was there has sent a report of LPAC organizers "supporting the
Truth" about Obama, one or two threatening to attack them, and
others in the crowd immediately coming to their defense. The
Romulus, Michigan, intervention is everywhere on the Internet,
and the Vicki Tsongas meeting near Boston is now fully visible on
larouchenet and being picked up elsewhere. We have print coverage
of our Obama/Hitler organizing reported in Long Island and New
Jersey. And in many locals our field squads are "exploding" their
impact and income, as Harley reported of Texas over the weekend.
A town meeting held by Rep. Mike Burgess (R-Tx) near Dallas,
showed again that GOP Congressmen are also getting blasted by the
revolutionary heat.
Meanwhile, a growing number of "leading" Congressional
cowards has decided to have "no direct contact with [his or her]
constituents during this recess" (Diane DeGette of Colorado, in
that case).
Lyndon LaRouche said Sunday, "I repeat what I said on
Saturday about this; and I'll add now: The President, like the
King of France, and the legislative branch of the government,
have gone into hiding, and we're waiting for the rioters to reach
the Bastille.
"This is a breakdown of government. The government has fled
from the people. It is not fleeing from `mobs.' This is not
caused by the `mobs.' It's caused by the government's refusal to
deal with the problems of the American people.
"And the American people are not going to let Obama do it.
He has misjudged. Hitler was actually smarter--he knew that he
couldn't run through a euthanasia thing like this except in a
war. He said he knew it would require war. He waited until war
started, and he put it through. Obama is more stupid. He thought
he would do it without waiting to be at war. He was stupid, and
he's getting the heat for it.
"This is what we should say, although some of us will be
afraid to say it," Lyn concluded.