Terry Mauro

The contents of Charles' posts on this forum thus far suggests a man puffed up with self importance and the rather unsupported idea that he is some sort of intellectual. I therefore think he'd be an extremely poor moderator. However I also believe the experience might do him some good and so will not stand in his way . Your posts, in their furtiveness, simple-mindedness, and blind support for symbols of authority suggest that you are a physical and intellectual coward. That somehow I threaten your self-image as an educator or scholar could not be more evident. The preceding post marks the second time -- at least -- you have seen fit to demonstrate your machismo and insight by making light of my intellect. Which, it seems, is the best you can do. You offer not a syllable of constructive research or analysis on the subjects we routinely examine, and instead you resort to ad hominems, nay-saying, and other sophomoric rhetorical tricks in order to disguise the myriad failings of gray matter that likely has been damaged beyond repair by oxygen deprivation brought about by a too-tightly-knotted bow tie (soon to be immortalized in the annals of medicine as "Walker Craven Cravat Syndrome," no doubt). What an insufferable little twit you are. Charles You have just demonstrated again your unsuitability to be a moderator - however if we have a vacancy for a bombastic pseudo intellectual in the future I will be sure to let you know. ************************************************** "... - however if we have a vacancy for a bombastic pseudo intellectual in the future I will be sure to let you know." And, you've just demonstrated your "unsuitability" as an admin, Andy.

Charles you can only be a moderator if we currently stock your size in hob nail jack boots. Special orders are out of the question.... Thank YOU As an aside. I just envisioned Dopey Dwarf in Hob nailed jack boots, and almost wet my pants! Heres to you Kathy! *********************************************** Get XXXX, Williams. Edited for offensive language

The contents of Charles' posts on this forum thus far suggests a man puffed up with self importance and the rather unsupported idea that he is some sort of intellectual. I therefore think he'd be an extremely poor moderator. However I also believe the experience might do him some good and so will not stand in his way . *********************************************** Gee, that's mighty white of you, Andy.

**************************************************** You've got my full support, CD.

*************************************************** "I propose a compromise make Craig and "Drago" moderators." Oh wow! Seems you're really hell-bent on bringing this forum down in flames, aren't you?

Oh, have I struck a nerve by any chance, Lamson? Come to think of it, I can understand what Colby's trying to put across. But, when he teams up with you it might as well be compared to that of a pack of junkyard dogs. Oh well... A nerve? Clearly you jest. Your posts are like a mere pimple on an old woman's behind. The problem is you simple can't refute Len. **************************************************** Hell, I'm just playing you along seeing as how you've always got to get the last word in, edge-wise. I can refute Colby any damned time I want, if it's all the same to you, but I have a day job that has a tendency to put a crimp in any all-out debate I may want to present. In any event, it's all been rehashed ad nauseum across the board here, as it is, from what I've been able to deduce. It must be nice having nothing to do all day, but this. And, if you were such a highly intelligent, or halfway competent debater, you wouldn't even be wasting the bandwidth to answer this "pimple on an old woman's behind," now would you? Where's your pride? That's why I'll never take any of your ilk seriously. Really.

Actually in this case I'll side with Bemas and Avery he said "I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect but now he is changing his story again. Was he intimidated as truthers claim or are his recolections of events that morning simply unreliable? ******************************************************************************** ""I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect...' Get it completely right, or don't bring it up at all. You were obviously looking for any lame excuse to attack me, show how the differences between my paraphrasing and his exact words affected the point I was making – namely that I though Evan was wrong and the Loose Changes (in this case) had not distorted the truth and accurately quoted Jennings. I doubt you bothered to read through the thread, in it I documented how Jennings’ story in 2007 was very different from the one he told September 11 – 18, 20001. There’s little speculation involved. The fact that he is now back tracking IMO makes him even less reliable. I can’t tell if he is intentionally making things up or if he is simply confused. In any case he seems to have a very active imagination. If you can refute the evidence I’ve presented and will present get back us. If all you have to offer is insults expect no further replies from me. Accuracy isn’t your forte. John clearly indicated he wants posts on this forum to be accuruate, he also indicated he wanted members to avoid making personal attacks against others. Your fail on both accounts That you resort to personal attack rather than rebut my points speaks volumes. Your mentality seems to be limited to “X, Y and Z say what I already believe they must be correct, A, B and C are sayings I don’t believe to be true they must be wrong ****************************************************************** "Your mentality seems to be limited to “X, Y and Z say what I already believe they must be correct, A, B and C are sayings I don’t believe to be true they must be wrong..." WRONGO, BUCKO! I've read thoroughly through this thread and find your insufferable remarks to be totally unacceptable, as well. Therefore, I won't go into the many times I've witnessed a building being razed in Manhattan, or the lines of detonation, so OBVIOUSLY apparent on the Murrah Building after its attempted demolition by, supposedly one Timothy McVey. Why? Because they're at such odds with your assessment of the situation and would only serve to fuel your ridicule against any opinion that differs from the government's findings. But, your weak and impotent attacks on deductive reasoning, along with your hyperinflated assessment of your own research abilities only serves to prove that you can dish it out, but God help anyone who would choose to refute you. It's always been that way. Everybody knows it, yet as I've stated above, it only serves to prove one point. Yours, and others, which are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but become cannon fodder for you and Lamson. Both of you have always been the ones to attack first, and like a couple of rabid dogs, at that. Of course, people are going to react defensively. Yours and Lamson's condescending attitudes are designed to elicit that exact response. I'm just trying to expose your tactics for the underhanded charade they really are. Tisk. tisk BUCKO! If you can't refute the evidence, attack. Thats pretty much your standard response BUCKO! At least this one was not laced with the profanity that is so common in your rants. I guess we can be thankful for that at least. ************************************************* Oh, have I struck a nerve by any chance, Lamson? Come to think of it, I can understand what Colby's trying to put across. But, when he teams up with you it might as well be compared to that of a pack of junkyard dogs. Oh well...

Actually in this case I'll side with Bemas and Avery he said "I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect but now he is changing his story again. Was he intimidated as truthers claim or are his recolections of events that morning simply unreliable? ******************************************************************************** ""I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect...' Get it completely right, or don't bring it up at all. You were obviously looking for any lame excuse to attack me, show how the differences between my paraphrasing and his exact words affected the point I was making – namely that I though Evan was wrong and the Loose Changes (in this case) had not distorted the truth and accurately quoted Jennings. I doubt you bothered to read through the thread, in it I documented how Jennings’ story in 2007 was very different from the one he told September 11 – 18, 20001. There’s little speculation involved. The fact that he is now back tracking IMO makes him even less reliable. I can’t tell if he is intentionally making things up or if he is simply confused. In any case he seems to have a very active imagination. If you can refute the evidence I’ve presented and will present get back us. If all you have to offer is insults expect no further replies from me. Accuracy isn’t your forte. John clearly indicated he wants posts on this forum to be accuruate, he also indicated he wanted members to avoid making personal attacks against others. Your fail on both accounts That you resort to personal attack rather than rebut my points speaks volumes. Your mentality seems to be limited to “X, Y and Z say what I already believe they must be correct, A, B and C are sayings I don’t believe to be true they must be wrong ****************************************************************** "Your mentality seems to be limited to “X, Y and Z say what I already believe they must be correct, A, B and C are sayings I don’t believe to be true they must be wrong..." WRONGO, BUCKO! I've read thoroughly through this thread and find your insufferable remarks to be totally unacceptable, as well. Therefore, I won't go into the many times I've witnessed a building being razed in Manhattan, or the lines of detonation, so OBVIOUSLY apparent on the Murrah Building after its attempted demolition by, supposedly one Timothy McVey. Why? Because they're at such odds with your assessment of the situation and would only serve to fuel your ridicule against any opinion that differs from the government's findings. But, your weak and impotent attacks on deductive reasoning, along with your hyperinflated assessment of your own research abilities only serves to prove that you can dish it out, but God help anyone who would choose to refute you. It's always been that way. Everybody knows it, yet as I've stated above, it only serves to prove one point. Yours, and others, which are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but become cannon fodder for you and Lamson. Both of you have always been the ones to attack first, and like a couple of rabid dogs, at that. Of course, people are going to react defensively. Yours and Lamson's condescending attitudes are designed to elicit that exact response. I'm just trying to expose your tactics for the underhanded charade they really are.

Actually in this case I'll side with Bemas and Avery he said "I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect but now he is changing his story again. Was he intimidated as truthers claim or are his recolections of events that morning simply unreliable? ******************************************************************************** ""I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect...' Get it completely right, or don't bring it up at all. "are his recolections of events that morning simply unreliable?" And, your speculative antics leave a lot to be desired, BTW. You're exactly what CD pegged you as, and probably worse. But, Simkin believes in allowing all "comers and players" equal opportunity to misinform and disinform the work here, in the name of "debate." Therefore, you'll obviously continue to spout your reams of incessant drivel, designed to intimidate other forum members, here. But, you don't fool me, or any of the others with your flagrantly enormous attitude and equally high opinion of yourself. Get a life! Bravo, Terry. Since Charles Drago's succinct description of Colby is now censored here, I may start quoting YOUR assessment...unless it too is censored. I have started replying to Colby using MACBETH, ACT V, SCENE V. If they censor that too, because it might corrupt the sensitivities of the students who study here (?) then we will know how far the intolerance to truth really goes. Yeah, that's the ticket...censor Shakespeare. Jack ******************************************************** "I have started replying to Colby using MACBETH, ACT V, SCENE V. If they censor that too, because it might corrupt the sensitivities of the students who study here (?) then we will know how far the intolerance to truth really goes." Or, how truly ignorant the students may be if they can allow their sensitivities to be so easily corrupted by Shakespeare.

Actually in this case I'll side with Bemas and Avery he said "I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect but now he is changing his story again. Was he intimidated as truthers claim or are his recolections of events that morning simply unreliable? ******************************************************************************** ""I could tell I was stepping over bodies" or words to that effect...' Get it completely right, or don't bring it up at all. "are his recolections of events that morning simply unreliable?" And, your speculative antics leave a lot to be desired, BTW. You're exactly what CD pegged you as, and probably worse. But, Simkin believes in allowing all "comers and players" equal opportunity to misinform and disinform the work here, in the name of "debate." Therefore, you'll obviously continue to spout your reams of incessant drivel, designed to intimidate other forum members, here. But, you don't fool me, or any of the others with your flagrantly enormous attitude and equally high opinion of yourself. Get a life!

*************************************************** Where do we cast our vote? O.K. I found it.

Dr Jose Rivera's background & movements are very interesting. Other posts in this thread suggest his involvement in MK-ULTRA. Is it the case that Rivera was in Japan in a senior "medical" position throughout the 1950s? In posts #82, 85 & 89 in the thread linked below, I posted information about MK-ULTRA documents from 1954 describing proposed human "field" tests of narco-hypnotic programming, particularly in the context of a "false defector" programme. It is also documented that Atsugi was one of two known non-US bases used for MK-ULTRA field trials. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...75&start=75 There are also suggestions that the "false defector" programme involved the Gehlen Organization, the OSS/CIA network of Nazi spies (often right-wing East Europeans such as White Russians, Ukrainians, Latvians) used against the Soviets in the aftermath of WW2. In "The Nazi Connection to the John F Kennedy Assassination", Mae Brussell stated: So, if this is correct, we have "training schools" for both MK-ULTRA and the Gehlen Organization operating out of Atsugi in the timeframe that Oswald was busy attacking his superiors in strangely pre-meditated fashion in the Blue Bird Cafe. The synchronicities are piling up. Yes, I agree Jan, the pimple is about to 'pop'.....and isn't it interesting how things that 'seem' to be connected, but don't 'make sense' in a complete way, as being connected, suddenly do - at a certain point. I think we have almost reached that point on this matter.....the puzzle pieces are all there and only need some final assembly. I assure all the final picture will not be 'pretty'. Many, if not most, of the White Russians [and others] around Oswald were likely creatures of [or connected to] the Gehlen Org - as were some others in the Oswald set-up 'orbit'. Mae really was 'on track' IMO. MK/ULTRA fits in here...exactly how is not completely clear yet..but I think it just around the corner; and that 'piece' will fit nicely when put in its 'place'. The concern Peter, is that when that final piece of the puzzle clarifies, it will very likely be too late to stop the beast of fascism manifesting again. My, my are we all as cynical as I?!....I agree it might be too late, but we need to try, just in case we are wrong on the timing and doing the near impossible. Information will help those to whom it has meaning. I agree a new fascism is ascendent now and one doesn't need the last puzzle pieces to fit in order to see that. Those last few pieces might help fight it though!....maybe....we can hope... ****************************************** My, my are we all as cynical as I?! As well as: "Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth." - Lillian Hellman

Dr Jose Rivera's background & movements are very interesting. Other posts in this thread suggest his involvement in MK-ULTRA. Is it the case that Rivera was in Japan in a senior "medical" position throughout the 1950s? In posts #82, 85 & 89 in the thread linked below, I posted information about MK-ULTRA documents from 1954 describing proposed human "field" tests of narco-hypnotic programming, particularly in the context of a "false defector" programme. It is also documented that Atsugi was one of two known non-US bases used for MK-ULTRA field trials. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...75&start=75 There are also suggestions that the "false defector" programme involved the Gehlen Organization, the OSS/CIA network of Nazi spies (often right-wing East Europeans such as White Russians, Ukrainians, Latvians) used against the Soviets in the aftermath of WW2. In "The Nazi Connection to the John F Kennedy Assassination", Mae Brussell stated: So, if this is correct, we have "training schools" for both MK-ULTRA and the Gehlen Organization operating out of Atsugi in the timeframe that Oswald was busy attacking his superiors in strangely pre-meditated fashion in the Blue Bird Cafe. The synchronicities are piling up. Yes, I agree Jan, the pimple is about to 'pop'.....and isn't it interesting how things that 'seem' to be connected, but don't 'make sense' in a complete way, as being connected, suddenly do - at a certain point. I think we have almost reached that point on this matter.....the puzzle pieces are all there and only need some final assembly. I assure all the final picture will not be 'pretty'. Many, if not most, of the White Russians [and others] around Oswald were likely creatures of [or connected to] the Gehlen Org - as were some others in the Oswald set-up 'orbit'. Mae really was 'on track' IMO. MK/ULTRA fits in here...exactly how is not completely clear yet..but I think it just around the corner; and that 'piece' will fit nicely when put in its 'place'. The concern Peter, is that when that final piece of the puzzle clarifies, it will very likely be too late to stop the beast of fascism manifesting again. My, my are we all as cynical as I?!....I agree it might be too late, but we need to try, just in case we are wrong on the timing and doing the near impossible. Information will help those to whom it has meaning. I agree a new fascism is ascendent now and one doesn't need the last puzzle pieces to fit in order to see that. Those last few pieces might help fight it though!....maybe....we can hope... ************************************************************** "My, my are we all as cynical as I?!" "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) Irish writer.

I don't know if she's posted this as yet, but I received this video from Dawnie this morning and wanted to share it with you since it deals with when and where, the roots of G.H.W. Bush's coined term, "New World Order" took place, and were eventually, and "eventfully," realized.

Fascism now seems to be the default setting in today's political parties of the right, and appears to be gaining ground with every year that passes. What a great pity it is that this once apparently vanquished beast has been allowed to take root to this degree. Were we all asleep when this happened? ***************************************************************** "Were we all asleep when this happened?" I was wide awake when they took over Congress in 1994, coming to the realization that my vote obviously amounted to jacks--t, since I've never voted "right" in my whole damned life. So, how could this have been allowed to happen? Fast forward to 2000, and 2004 for the real answers in Ohio and Florida. Plus, with the greatest aiding and abetting coming from Operation Mockingbird's egregious hypnotic tactics via its shill of a bought and paid for commercial news media. Of course, the best laid plans of snakes and serpents had already been set in place during Reagan's and Don Regan's dismantling what was left of any balls the U.S. government may have had, in the 1980's.

******************************************************** "I knew Charlie Black when I served as legal counsel to the National Conservative Political Action Committee in 1975-76. He was a bigoted creature of Senator Jesse Helms, both being from North Carolina. He gained his wealth and influence by riding the back of Ronald Reagan, who bequeathed to us the likes of the Bushes and Black. Thomas Frank's article in the Wall Street Journal (of all places) hits the mark and shows how if McCain were elected president, Black's evil influence would be amplified." Which "Charlie Black" is this? Am I missing something, here? Thanks, Ter

Another view of The American Revolution, The Civil War, The War of 1812, World War I, and II from the economic standpoint, which you won't find written in the history books used to teach the subject, in American schools, today. Click on link and then click on video "1932". Great video for July 4th ! Robert Beltran the actor of "Star Trek - New Generation" is the narrator. http://www.larouchepac.com/

Thank you for the link. I have added it to my page on the Nugan Hand Bank. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKnuganbank.htm The other connection with the JFK assassination is that it is another example of a CIA freelance operation and included such figures as Ted Shackley, Mitchell WerBell, Tom Clines and Paul Helliwell. What we could do with is a TV documentary on the "Secret Team", Shackley's CIA freelance covert activities that included assassinations, arms-running and drug smuggling. I was once told by a very good source that the CIA was more concerned with the Secret Team's involvement in drugs than with the JFK assassination. This subject has been discussed in some detail here: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=7369 ******************************************************** This link came to me courtesy of my dear friend, Len Osanic of prouty.org. He said to view it before they took it down.

Actually! "Lefty's" have relatively accurately fired the Carcano in as little as 1.6 to 1.8 seconds of elapsed time utilizing the iron sights. The 2.25 to 2.4 seconds, as quoted by the WC, is related strictly to target acquisition through usage of the scope. Additionally, numerous individuals (right-handed shooters) have fired the Carcano in 1.9 to 2.0 seconds of elaspsed time between shots, utilizing the iron sights for aiming. For someone who has practiced with and had has experience operating the weapon, a 2.0 second elapsed time or slightly less would be more in the norm, if utilizing the iron sights. The prime indicator that there are frames missing from the film between Z313 and the last shot impact down in front of James Altgens, is that the vehicle speed is inconsitant with the testilmonies which have repeatedly stated that the Presidential Limo slowed down considerably, and which is not shown on the film. The rapid nature of the two last shots appears to be what lead members of the WC staff to question the entire Oswald family in regards to whether LHO was left-handed or not. An indicator that someone was fully aware that a "lefty" could out-speed shoot a "righty" with a bolt action rifle. So, it would appear that they completely ignored that one can fire the weapon considerably faster when utilizing only the iron sight for target acquisition. Of course, there is also the fact that they did not want anyone looking in between Z313 and Z354 (313 + (18.3 X 2.25), and therefore could not, or would not let that possibility out of the bag. After all, one might accidentally begin to look at the vicinity of James Altgens were one to understand that the weapon is easily fired faster when utilizing the iron sights for target acquisition. ************************************************************* Hi Purv Honey, Just letting you know that your New Orleans contingency is still reading when not working at The Hill, over in Santa Monica. Good show and good shot, Bunky! Love ya, Ter

************************************* Hi Har, I just came across this post to Dawnie, so I copied and pasted it into an e-mail to her home e-mail address. I know she's been super busy with work, same as myself these days. Seems like everyone's trying to get more bang for their buck by cutting staff, and piling on the extra work to those who remain to pick up the slack. We only get to talk to each other on the weekends anymore, and only one day at that, if we're lucky. hjay1212@ wmconnect.com Are you sure there's supposed to be a space after the "@" in that e-mail address above? Love, Ter Hi, Ter Thank you for the forward to Dawn,much appreciated. Now today in touch with Erick re; these efforts. You are right re; the "@" in the wrong place. I agree re; work pile-up in nowdays workplaces, but remember the 'total phonies' {Bush & Gang} will soon be out and gone and things will hopefully lighten up. Thanks again. Harry ************************************************** I certainly hope so, Har. Then, I'll hopefully get enough time off to run around SoCal with you. We can go in my truck. I'll drive. I get good gas mileage in my 5-speed manual transmission XLT Ranger, built by Ford, of course, with AC and a great stereo system, to boot! We'll kick ass!!! Love, Ter

Subject: RARE NUGAN HAND BANK original CBS video 1982 the only TV news in USA that covered NUGAN HAND SCANDAL http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...34745&hl=en

************************************* Hi Har, I just came across this post to Dawnie, so I copied and pasted it into an e-mail to her home e-mail address. I know she's been super busy with work, same as myself these days. Seems like everyone's trying to get more bang for their buck by cutting staff, and piling on the extra work to those who remain to pick up the slack. We only get to talk to each other on the weekends anymore, and only one day at that, if we're lucky. hjay1212@ wmconnect.com Are you sure there's supposed to be a space after the "@" in that e-mail address above? Love, Ter

*************************************************************** Over the last decade he seemed to come across as one of D.C.'s "Mockingbird" sellouts, IMHO. And, I'll never forget his "non-compassionate" interview of that sheriff of Saint Bernard's Parish, right after Katrina's devastation, replete with Russert's seemingly acceptance of Bush's handling of the situation, along with the appointment of Bush's half-wit "good ole boy" buddy, [brown was his name?] whom Bush had put in charge of FEMA. Russert came across just like every other "Belt-Way" talking head, bought and paid for by Mockingbird. His passing is a loss to his family. God help his soul.

Do to professional confidentiality, most psychiatrists will not, even after the death of high-profile and famous patients say much. It took decades to get Maralyn Monroe's psychiatrist to ONLY say that she was not suicidal just before her death. He said very little more. Good luck. Personally, for famous political figures or those who died under suspicious circumstances, I think these privacy/confidentiality considerations should be waived. I think in many cases it is a cover for a more pressing concern - survival. ******************************************************* "I think these privacy/confidentiality considerations should be waived. I think in many cases it is a cover for a more pressing concern - survival." For all intents and purposes, these rules and regs do more harm than good to the timely delivery of health care by the medical professionals entrusted with its provision. Especially, when you have to be extremely conscientious of how you word a message to a patient's voice mail when attempting to remind them of their scheduled appointment. AMA (Legal Issues) Patient confidentiality HIPAA has created additional patient confidentiality considerations. ... These statutes all state that medical records are confidential and cannot be ... www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/4610.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages HIPAA Basics: Medical Privacy in the Electronic Age Consumer and patient advocates are critical of HIPAA for its numerous weaknesses. ...... Talk to your provider about your confidentiality concerns. ... www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs8a-hipaa.htm - 92k - Cached - Similar pages I think these privacy/confidentiality considerations should be waived Yes but! Then, someone just may be required to tell all in regards to removal of a third bullet from someone's leg! ************************************************************** "Then, someone just may be required to tell all in regards to removal of a third bullet from someone's leg!" You got that right, Bunky!

Do to professional confidentiality, most psychiatrists will not, even after the death of high-profile and famous patients say much. It took decades to get Maralyn Monroe's psychiatrist to ONLY say that she was not suicidal just before her death. He said very little more. Good luck. Personally, for famous political figures or those who died under suspicious circumstances, I think these privacy/confidentiality considerations should be waived. I think in many cases it is a cover for a more pressing concern - survival. ******************************************************* "I think these privacy/confidentiality considerations should be waived. I think in many cases it is a cover for a more pressing concern - survival." For all intents and purposes, these rules and regs do more harm than good to the timely delivery of health care by the medical professionals entrusted with its provision. Especially, when you have to be extremely conscientious of how you word a message to a patient's voice mail when attempting to remind them of their scheduled appointment. AMA (Legal Issues) Patient confidentiality HIPAA has created additional patient confidentiality considerations. ... These statutes all state that medical records are confidential and cannot be ... www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/4610.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages HIPAA Basics: Medical Privacy in the Electronic Age Consumer and patient advocates are critical of HIPAA for its numerous weaknesses. ...... Talk to your provider about your confidentiality concerns. ... www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs8a-hipaa.htm - 92k - Cached - Similar pages