Ed O'Hagan

Mark, I agree. However, since in your clip we can see that even the driver , Greer, is being clearly propelled forward together with the other three people, how then would it be possible for JFK and Jackie to have remained seated on the rear seat, given their lack of unpreparednesss for both the impact of the head shot and the almost immediate effects of what was quite obviously rapid braking? Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.!

Jack, Precisely ! Jackie appears to be moving voluntarily, and is not responding in any way to the braking effect, which in the case of the Connallys carries them so violently forward. And how does what John Connally told the WC square with how he is depicted following the head shot? " So I looked, failing to see him, I was turning to look back over my left shoulder into the back seat, but I never got that far in my turn. I got about in the position I am in now, facing, looking a little bit to the left of center, and then I felt like someone had hit me in the back.... Mrs. Connally pulled me over to her lap. I reclined with my head in her lap, conscious all the time, and with my eyes open; and I heard the shot very clearly. I heard it hit him."(W.C.R.vol. IV, H-132-133) Seems to me that who ever 'doctored' the footage put Connally sitting upright at the time when he was actually lying with his head in Nellie' slap. Another faux pas no less!

Jack, Well done! Your colored rendition is certainly an improvement. Notice the tilt of Jackie's hat is being switched from one side to the other. Very definitely a 'kindergarten ' job of 'doctoring'.

My Webpage In the above clip, John and Nellie Connally are depicted being propelled violently forward. There are only two explanations possible for that happening : (1) the limousine was suddenly braked, or (2) something crashed violently into the back of their seats. If (1) occurred then Jackie and JFK should have been depicted likewise being thrown violently forward and into the backs of the Connallys' seats They are not so depicted, therefore, either the footage has been 'doctored', or the limousine did not brake and so (2) must have occurred. If (2) occurred, then the only explanation that could be posssible is that JFK was thrown violently forward into the back of the Connallys' seats by the force of the head shot.... and again that should be depicted... which it is not, nor do subsequent frames depict JFK lying on the floor behind the Connallys. Therefore, if (2) actually occurred then the footage was 'doctored' to obscure that aspect. If there are no other possible explanations, then by concomitant variation one can conclude that 'doctoring' was employed to obscure the fact that JFK (as a result of either (1) or (2)) had been propelled forward, and that the imparted force of his body hitting the back of the seat(s) then caused the Connally's likewise to be thrown violently forward. As stated at http://home.cogeco.ca/~eohagan/ , the fatal head shot could only have been fired from the post-office building on Commerce St. It (or the braking of the limousine ) carried JFK from being slouched down in Jackie's arms and lap, diagonally and head first into the rear of John Connally's partially occupied seat...since at that time most of Connally's body weight was similarly slouched down to his left and resting in his wife's , Nellie's, lap and arms. N.B. Notice that following the head shot there is not a single frame where the area being John Connally's jump seat is even minimally discernible. The reason being ....JFK came to rest face up, and with his back resting on Connally's seat, which had been folded forward over Connally's legs by the impacting weight of JFK's upper body . JFK's feet and legs ended up on the rear seat... and it is this which explains why Jackie climbed onto it. What she was doing was stepping over JFK's legs and feet to get to the right side of the rear compartment, in order to be able to lean forward and downwards to attend to JFK. It would have been impossible for her to get to him directly from where she was sitting at the time of the head shot, because she was boxed in both by her husband's feet and legs, and also by the jump seat immediatley in front of her. As already described, at the time of the fatal head shot JFK's upper body was resting in Jackie's lap and arms and below the level of the top of the rear seat, thereby making it impossible for the shot to have been fired from anywhere directly behind the limousine.... TSBD , Daltex and County Records buildings included. However, since the WC (which did its patriotic best by choosing the lesser of two evils.... paradoxically, truth being the greater ) was compelled to conceal the fact of a conspiracy, and accordingly tagged LHO as being the LN shooter; and so it became necessary that the Zapruder film had to be 'shaped' to support their 'conclusion'... or can anyone seriously believe that the film would ever have seen the light of day for any other reason. It really defies comprehension that there are those in the CT community, who on the one hand can accuse the WC of a cover-up while at one and the same time they are busy pushing the case for the integrity of the Z. film. There is a well known saying in philosophy that 'the affirmation of the one is not necessarily the negation of the other'. To their shame, among professed CTers those are the very same individuals who arrogantly persist in 'downing' anyone who dares to report seeing anything at all which goes against their conviction that the Zapruder footage is the pristine 'proof of the pudding', so to speak. The anomaly of the front to back motion of JFK's head was a very clever 'apparent oversight' . The HSCA added to it by begrudingly admitting to a possible '4th shot' from the GK . The combined result has ever since been to keep the CT community endlessley mounting and tenaciously bestriding a variety of mythical 'hobby-horses', and no less riding round in circles on an 'intellectual carousel' which conveys them from the GK to the TSBD and back again. The fact of the matter was that shots were fired from both locations, but none was aimed at JFK... Bizarre? Off the wall! No , not at all, if one really understands how a bogus assassination was turned into the real thing halfway down Elm St. If anyone wishes to examine it closely, Zapruder frame # 456 is well worth a second look. However, not being able to interpret what is being depicted in that particular frame, does not qualify anyone to assume that I, or anyone else for that matter, may be similarly as visually so impaired...But doubtless some of the same people who avoided responding to the question I posed in a previous thread, which inquired as to how it was possible to know that the Zapruder footage is the 'real deal', will be immmediately up and on the attack. That is the only way they know of 'proving' the authenticity of what turns out via computer assisted inspection to be nothing more than a contrived attempt at framing the truth. I am 100% convinced that the Zapruder film has been 'doctored' both 'fore and aft' to support the WC's claim that Oswald was the sole LN assassin. I am also 100% convinced that the WC at the time were unfortunately compelled to choose between bad and worse. The bad was the assassination of a president, worse was the assassination of the presidency. Paradoxically, therefore, I can argue the CT case for conspiracy and yet exculpate the WC for the cover-up. The only difference I see between my position and the position of the CT defenders of the Zapruder film , is that while they may have been made privy as to why the WC did what it had to do, I at least came to the conclusion honesty and under my own steam. Rightly or wrongly I can tell it as I see it, while the best that they can do is to disrupt and disinform, thereby ensuring that the entire enterprise is constantly being kept running in circles and getting nowhere close to understanding what was really happening in Dealey Plaza that awful day In Dallas, when the life of John F. Kennedy was so mercilessly extinguished. All the information that we are going to get in the foreseeable future, is already in, So, what is called for is a new paridigm based on what is already known; A resynthesis, if you will, that while not providing new information per se , will go a long way in creating a new awareness. And to those who keep insisting on 'proof' of all they see and read , and 'downing' anyone who happens not to square with their perception of things, isn't it about time they grew a up, or at the very least made some kind of an attempt to culivate a modicum of intellectual modesty and courtesy towards others. If we are anything at all, we are detectives exploring possibilities, and most certainly not lawyers or self-righteous hard -heads who think they are the infallible equivalent of lawyers in a court of law. Proof, indeed ! If such existed the case would long ago have been closed. Notice that I have not attached any of my so-called 'blurry pictures',. However, if anyone wants to have a look at my rendition of what shows up in Z.# 456, then drop me an e-mail, and since time and effort have been invested, I'll be more than pleased to respond. Otherwise ' I ain't gonna !' . I went to a lot of trouble in the past to bring things to the attention of others via visual attachments, but subsequently was to discover that considerably less that 1% of those who read the posts even bothered to download the attached files for purposes of inspecting the pictures more closely. That's was not very encouraging, and it certainly was very far removed from according recognition to those who might consider themselves 'researchers'.,, Being able to replicate techiques, reproduce/fail to reproduce outcomes/data/ conclusions are all part of the validation/verification processes. If one wishes to be regarded as a researcher then behaving like one is essential. Having prejudiced opinions and a big mouth are poor substitutes for convincing others that one knows what she/he is talking about... and that applies to all of us, myself included. My webpage can be visted at My Webpage <http://home.cogeco.ca/~eohagan/>

Please disregard this one. If I knew how to delete it I would.

A closer look.

If you honestly believe that the Zapruder film is an authentic and unaltered portrayal of what occurred in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963, then the following is for your consideration: Being a convinced believer, you naturally have rejected any and all attempts to persuade you that the film has been 'doctored' in any way, shape or form. Naturally it follows that if you are correct in claiming that the footage is pristine, then every claim by the disciples of the 'alterationist cult'... and I confess that I have numbered among them... cannot be otherwise than false. Therefore, for the sake of logical argument and enlightment, let us concede that you are correct and that I/we have been preaching nothing but shameful 'heresy' concerning the authenticity of the film. That granted, and in order that I/we may be able to understand how you were able to deduce that the footage is, so to speak, the 'genuine article', would you please be so kind as to list the presumably logical reason(s) which assisted you in concluding that the Zapruder film is unquestionably a true and photographically accurate recording of the assassination of President Kennedy. In a nutshell, how do you know that you are correct?

Testimony Of Mrs. John F. Kennedy The President's Commission met, at 4:20 p.m., on Friday, June 5, 1964, at 3017 N Street NW, Washington, D.C. Present was Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman. Also present were J. Lee Rankin, general counsel; and Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General of the United States. The CHAIRMAN. The Commission will be in order. Mrs. Kennedy, the Commission would just like to have you say in your own words, in your own way, what happened at the time of the assassination of the President. Mr. Rankin will ask you a few questions, just from the time you left the airport until the time you started for the hospital. And we want it to be brief. We want it to be in your own words and want you to say anything that you feel is appropriate to that occasion. Would you be sworn, please, Mrs. Kennedy? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you give before the Commission will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mrs. KENNEDY. I do. The CHAIRMAN. Would you be seated. Mr. RANKIN. State your name for the record. Mrs. KENNEDY. Jacqueline Kennedy. Mr. RANKIN. And you are the widow of the former President Kennedy? Mrs. KENNEDY. That is right. Mr. RANKIN. You live here in Washington? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. Can you go back to the time that you came to Love Field on November 22 and describe what happened there after you landed in the plane? Mrs. KENNEDY. We got off the plane. The then Vice President and Mrs. Johnson were there. They gave us flowers. And then the car was waiting, but there was a big crowd there, all yelling, with banners and everything. And we went to shake hands with them. It was a very hot day. And you went all along a long line. I tried to stay close to my husband and lots of times you get pushed away, you know, people leaning over and pulling your hand. They were very friendly. And, finally, I don't know how we got back to the car. I think Congressman Thomas somehow was helping me. There was lots of confusion. Mr. RANKIN. Then you did get into the car. And you sat on the left side of the car, did you, and your husband on your right? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. And was Mrs. Connally---- Mrs. KENNEDY. In front of me. Mr. RANKIN. And Governor Connally to your right in the jump seat? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. And Mrs. Connally was in the jump seat? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. And then did you start off on the parade route? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. And were there many people along the route that you waved to? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. It was rather scattered going in. Once there was a crowd of people with a sign saying something like "President Kennedy, please get out and shake our hands, our neighbors said you wouldn't." Mr. RANKIN. Did you? Mrs. KENNEDY. And he stopped and got out. That was, you know, like a little suburb and there were not many crowds. But then the crowds got bigger as you went in. Mr. RANKIN. As you got into the main street of Dallas were there very large crowds on all the streets? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. And you waved to them and proceeded down the street with the motorcade? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. And in the motorcade, you know, I usually would be waving mostly to the left side and he was waving mostly to the right, which is one reason you are not looking at each other very much. And it was terribly hot. Just blinding all of us. Mr. RANKIN. Now, do you remember as you turned off of the main street onto Houston Street? Mrs. KENNEDY. I don't know the name of the street. Mr. RANKIN. That is that one block before you get to the Depository Building. Mrs. KENNEDY. Well, I remember whenever it was, Mrs. Connally said, "We will soon be there." We could see a tunnel in front of us. Everything was really slow then. And I remember thinking it would be so cool under that tunnel. Mr. RANKIN. And then do you remember as you turned off of Houston onto Elm right by the Depository Building? Mrs. KENNEDY. Well, I don't know the names of the streets, but I suppose right by the Depository is what you are talking about? Mr. RANKIN. Yes; that is the street that sort of curves as you go down under the underpass. Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes; well, that is when she said to President Kennedy, "You certainly can't say that the people of Dallas haven't given you a nice welcome. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say? Mrs. KENNEDY. I think he said-I don't know if I remember it or I have read it, "No, you certainly can't," or something. And you know then the car was very slow and there weren't very many people around. And then--do you want me to tell you what happened? Mr. RANKIN. Yes; if you would, please. Mrs. KENNEDY. You know, there is always noise in a motorcade and there are always motorcycles, besides us, a lot of them backfiring. So I was looking to the left. I guess there was a noise, but it didn't seem like any different noise really because there is so much noise, motorcycles and things. But then suddenly Governor Connally was yelling, "Oh, no, no, no." Mr. RANKIN. Did he turn toward you? Mrs. KENNEDY. No; I was looking this way, to the left, and I heard these terrible noises. You know. And my husband never made any sound. So I turned to the right. And all I remember is seeing my husband, he had this sort of quizzical look on his face, and his hand was up, it must have been his left hand. And just as I turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull and I remember it was flesh colored. I remember thinking he just looked as if he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No blood or anything. And then he sort of did this [indicating], put his hand to his forehead and fell in my lap. And then I just remember falling on him and saying, "Oh, no, no, no," I mean, "Oh, my God, they have shot my husband." And "I love you, Jack," I remember I was shouting. And just being down in the car with his head in my lap. And it just seemed an eternity. You know, then, there were pictures later on of me climbing out the back. But I don't remember that at all. Mr. RANKIN. Do you remember Mr. Hill coming to try to help on the car? Mrs. KENNEDY. I don't remember anything. I was just down like that. And finally I remember a voice behind me, or something, and then I remember the people in the front seat, or somebody, finally knew something was wrong, and a voice yelling, which must have been Mr. Hill, "Get to the hospital,"or maybe it was Mr. Kellerman, in the front seat. But someone yelling. I was just down and holding him. [Reference to wounds deleted.] Mr. RANKIN. Do you have any recollection of whether there were one or more shots? Mrs. KENNEDY. Well, there must have been two because the one that made me turn around was Governor Connally yelling. And it used to confuse me because first I remembered there were three and I used to think my husband didn't make any sound when he was shot. And Governor Connally screamed. And then I read the other day that it was the same shot that hit them both. But I used to think if I only had been looking to the right I would have seen the first shot hit him, then I could have pulled him down, and then the second shot would not have hit him. But I heard Governor Connally yelling and that made me turn around, and as I turned to the right my husband was doing this [indicating with hand at neck]. He was receiving a bullet. And those are the only two I remember. And I read there was a third shot. But I don't know. Just those two. Mr. RANKIN. Do you have any recollection generally of the speed that you were going, not any precise amount. Mrs. KENNEDY. We were really slowing turning the corner. And there were very few people. Mr. RANKIN. And did you stop at any time after the shots, or proceed about the same way? Mrs. KENNEDY. I don't know, because--I don't think we stopped. But there was such confusion. And I was down in the car and everyone was yelling to get to the hospital and you could hear them on the radio, and then suddenly I remember a sensation of enormous speed, which must have been when we took off. Mr. RANKIN. And then from there you proceeded as rapidly as possible to the hospital, is that right? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall anyone saying anything else during the time of the shooting? Mrs. KENNEDY. No; there weren't any words. There was just Governor Connally's. And then I suppose Mrs. Connally was sort of crying and covering her husband. But I don't remember any words. And there was a big windshield between--you know--I think. Isn't there? Mr. RANKIN. Between the seats. Mrs. KENNEDY. So you know, those poor men in the front, you couldn't hear them. Mr. RANKIN. Can you think of anything more? The CHAIRMAN. No; I think not. I think that is the story and that is what we came for. We thank you very much, Mrs. Kennedy. Mr. RANKIN. I would just like to ask if you recall Special Agent Kellerman saying anything to you as you came down the street after you turned that corner that you referred to. Mrs. KENNEDY. You mean before the shots? Mr. RANKIN. Yes. Mrs. KENNEDY. Well, I don't, because you know, it is very hard for them to talk. But I do not remember, just as I don't recall climbing out on the back of the car. Mr. RANKIN. Yes. You have told us what you remember about the entire period as far as you can recall, have you? Mrs. KENNEDY. Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much, Mrs. Kennedy. (Whereupon, at 4:30 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)

Red dot...... Mack Pate garage Green dot....El Chico restaurant Blue dot .... 214 W.Neeley Think take-out orders, and the fact that names get called out when the order is ready. You might conclude that T.F. White had seen Marina's husband at the El Chico on more than one occasion a few months earlier. He got the number of the Plymouth , but described it as being a red Ford Falcon. Then he identified LHO as being the man he saw leaving the parking lot at 2:00 p.m. on the afternoon of the assassination, when LHO was already in police custody. Remember this was at a time when 'two Oswald' tales did not exist., and given that circumstance, he could not have seen LHO, but he could have seen Harvey.... However, absent awareness of the existence of Harvey at that time, White's story had to be regarded as one of mistaken identity. The real problem was the fact that the license plate number could not be explained away as easily. Nevertheless if he was 'wrong ' about seeing LHO, then switching the blue Plymouth into becoming a red Ford Falcon, added to his lack of credibility. I wonder if 'Mike' told Igor that it was time to get his tires rotated at the Mack Pate garage shortly after the encounter with T.F White. The red Thunderbird was a real problem. It was probably the reason that Vaganov headed back to Philadelphia before sunset on the 23rd and why he parked it in a friend's garage before heading back to Dallas in a Sting Ray. Both the Plymouth and the red Thunderbird were probably in the parking lot at the same time. Vaganov would have been inside the restaurant picking-up a take out order. Harvey would have been waiting outside, when he spied White, whom he knew would recognize him, so he drove off heading west on West Davis, in the general direction of the Sunset Motel. In the morning Harvey ('Mike from the CIA) and Vaganov probably breakfasted at the El Chico, and the Plymouth had remained parked there right up to the time White saw it being driven away. I'll leave off here for the time being, but think ...two tickets at the Top Ten ...two bottles of beer at the Jiffy Store on Industrial Ave. followed by two pieces of peanut brittle.... Vaganov not wearing his good clothes ...Julie Ann Mercer's tale. The trick is to tie the bits and pieces together into a coherent explanation as to what was really going on. Over the years, I have been harping on and on about this aspect . No new information appears likely well into the forseeable future, so we have to resynthesize what we already know. In and of itself that will not provide new information per se , but it sure enough can produce a brand new AWARENESS.

The Esquire article states that Benavides told Berendt that the red car had a white top. Vaganov's Thunderbird was a red convertible with a white top. Benavides then added that he was not sure that the car was a Ford. No year is listed for the Thunderbird. However, when Vaganov left Philadelphia for Dallas he still owed $3,309.02 for the vehicle.

It speaks for itself. I see it clearly time after time in successive frames prior to the head shot.

James, If you happen to see a picture of the Texas Theater which shows the telephone number of the box-office, would you ( or anyone) please be so kind as to post it. If it turns up, I'll explain how it can be part of the explanation leading up to the murder of Tippit. Thank you,

Thank's James. Interesting. He doesen't appear to be smoking a cigarette. Deciding on what is going on in the picture, is almost like an officials ruling in NFL Football. "After reviewing the play the ruling on the fumble is 'inconclusive.'" But Ed's postulation certainly has merit in my book. P.S. James, does Robin Unger still have the website? I went to it trying to take a look at the Texas Theater photo's in color and they didn't pull up.

Here's the complete picture . Notice how far back in the crowd the man is standing.

Mrs Sharpe recalled that on the 22nd Vaganov left the motel wearing khaki pants and either a white shirt or a jacket. Mrs Acquilla Clemons, who witnessed the slaying of Officer Tippit, claimed to have seen two men standing near the police car before one of them shot the patrolman. Both ran off in different directions. Mrs Clemons was never questioned by the Warren Commission. However, she told Mark Lane that the killer was "kind of a short guy" and "kind of heavy", and that the other was tall and thin and was wearing khaki pants and a white shirt. John Berendt writes in the Esquire article that the first description fitted Vaganov's myserious visitor 'Mike from the CIA'; the second fitted Vaganov. Somewhere in the literature of the assassination I recalled reading that the second man had shouted to the first man , "Get going". That terse command suggested to me that the second man possibly knew where the first would be heading, namely the Texas Theater. I had a close look at the well known picture of the large group of people photographed in front of the cinema while waiting to see Oswald being brought outside., and found the image of a tall man wearing a white shirt and what looked like khaki pants. I have posted the image below. Zooming in on various parts of the image, I concluded that the configuration suggested the man was speaking into a ball shaped microphone, and that attached to his belt or resting in his hip-pocket was a radio - pack with an aerial pointing upwards. I can post these images, but at this stage I am not sure if I have sufficient MB space for the attachments. Anyway, below is what I found: Reference : Book of Facts: Clemons, Acquilla A witness to the killing of Police Officer J. D. Tippit, Clemons reportedly said she saw two men take part in the shooting, neither of whom resembled Lee Harvey Oswald. Never questioned by federal agents, Mrs. Clemons claimed she was later visited at her home by a man with a gun who she thought was a police officer. The man warned her that if she testified about the shooting, she might be killed. See also TIPPIT MURDER SCENE WITNESSES. Crossfire; Rush to Judgment N.B. If anyone can post copy of the Texas Theater picture in its entirety. it would be most helpful.

Owen, In case you don't have an image of Vaganov. James Owen, In case you don't have an image of Vaganov. James The above picture was taken in Russia . The man looks a bit like Vaganov . However, I understand that from 1959 to 1962 he was in the U.S. Navy. Additionally I was informed some time ago by a researcher, that during that time there was a ( $5 deposit ) account in the Dallas Republic National Bank in his name... the very same bank that he went out to visit allegedly after 1:00 p.m. on the 22nd. A lady from that very same bank was reported as being in the Daltex building on the same day and at the same time as Ruby and Braden were there.

Hi Bill. That is a new one for me. Is that documented? I think there are a few pieces you are missing - one had to do with a background in electronics I thought [going from memory here]? Another was that on the morning of 11/22, I thought that he came downstairs in his pajamas and was witnessed by his landlords or something at 1:00pm? Last was that there was a scrap of paper in his pocket with code words on it - which I pasted someplace here before. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...ost&p=50211 Found it. Ed O'Hagen can probably add some detail here. - lee Lee, I think that it's possible that Mr. and Mrs. Sharpe, the owner's of the Sunset Motel, were providing an alibi for Vaganov under intimidation. Later in the afternoon he drove Anne to Tenth and Patton, and then across the Trinity River and toured the assassination site. When they arrived back at the Sunset Motel around 4:30 p.m., two FBI agents were waiting to interrogate him. After two hours , having checked Vaganov's rifle and pistol and looked in his car, the two agents left. Joan Anthis collected her sister, Anne, and took her to her home around 3:00 a.m on the 23rd. Vaganov departed the motel before sunrise and headed back to Philadelphia alone. Anne had served her purpose, and the bottom line was that everything that Vaganov had told the FBI agents, was checked by them right away by telephone and verified. The rifle and pistol were examined by them and found to have not been recently fired. To me it was all too neat a scenario. It seemed as though he wanted to be highlighted as a suspect, so that he would be immediately investigated and then cleared.. and that's precisely what occurred on the afternoon of the 22nd. On Sunday he was back in Philadelphia. He remained in Philadelphia very briefly,parked his red Thunderbird in a friend's garage, picked-up a Sting Ray, and drove back to Texas. He went to see Anne at her sister's residence and persuaded her to return to Dallas with him. She did, for two days. By early December she had taken the train back to Philadelphia, and he had also returned. He got rid of the Sting Ray, picked-up the Thunderbird and drove to Atlanta. There he lived for a while with his first wife, Martha, who had "died in an auto crash with their child"... at least that's what he had told Anne.

John Berendt ( Author: Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil) wrote the article on Igor (Turk) Vaganov which was published in the August 1967 issue of Esquire Magazine. The Esquire archive located in New York no longer has a copy of the article, but I was able to find a copy at a local library. According to the article, Vaganov was first married to an Atlanta lady called Martha, whose father was a 'sea captain'. No mention of her surname occurs in the article,...... but wouldn't it be really interesting if it was 'Davison'. Vaganov's girlfriend was Anne Dullin. They were married in South Carolina on their way to Dallas. Her sister , Mrs. Joan Anthis lived in Garland , Texas, and it was she who called the FBI immediately after hearing the news of the assassination. Anne had phoned her the night before, and cryingly told her about Turk going to do something terrible the following day. 'Few individuals stand out as suspects and have such an intriguing background as Igor Vaganov', is a well chosen opening sentence for this thread. The Esquire article is full of interesting information, and should be considered a 'must read' for all CT researchers. I posted this NARA list re Vaganov some time ago, but here it is again : National Archives and Records Administration Kennedy Assassination Collection Full Results Hits 1-15 of 15 Hit 1 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10027-10241 RECORDS SERIES : DL AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 89-43-4 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : BIBLER, PAUL TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 11/22/1963 PAGES : 2 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, SUSPECTS, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 2 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10265-10368 RECORDS SERIES : PH AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 157-916-362 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : CARROLL, JAMES E. TO : SAC TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 08/08/1967 PAGES : 2 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, ASSA, SUSP, VAGANOV, IGOR V. CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 06/27/1994 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 3 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10236-10098 RECORDS SERIES : DL AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 89-43-5904 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : GEMBERLING, ROBERT P. TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 03/06/1967 PAGES : 1 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, TELCAL, INQUIRY, SUSPECT, VAGANOV, IGOR, ACK INQUIRY CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 4 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10027-10388 RECORDS SERIES : DL AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 89-43-145 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : HALL, C. RAY TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 11/23/1963 PAGES : 6 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, SUSPECT, VAGANOV, IGOR, BKG CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 5 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10236-10045 RECORDS SERIES : DL AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 89-43-5903 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : HODGENS, DONALD, J. TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 03/01/1967 PAGES : 4 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, TELCAL, ADVICE, WIT, BENAVIDES, DOMINGO, LHO, TIPPIT, J., INQUIRY, PHOTO, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 6 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10079-10100 RECORDS SERIES : DL AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 89-43-504 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : KUYKENDALL, EDWIN D. TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 11/25/1963 PAGES : 4 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, SUSPECTS, INTERVIEW, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 7 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10009-10341 RECORDS SERIES : HQ AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-109060-918 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, HO TO : DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 11/22/1963 PAGES : 2 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : KENNEDY, JOHN, SEARCHING FOR SUSPECTS, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 8 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10164-10049 RECORDS SERIES : DL AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 89-43-1967 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, HO TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 12/02/1963 PAGES : 4 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, INTV, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 02/01/1994 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 9 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10229-10391 RECORDS SERIES : HO AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-2115-204 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, HO TO : SAC, DL TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 12/02/1963 PAGES : 6 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : LHO, POST-RP, SUSPECT, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 COMMENTS : DTD IN SECOND PARAGRAPH Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 10 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10274-10073 RECORDS SERIES : HQ AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-116395-1396 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, MO TO : DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 01/11/1967 PAGES : 52 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : CC, REQ, INVEST, JFK, ASSA, SUSP, SILVA, ART, VAGANOV, IGOR VLADIMIRS, WC, LIAISON WITH USSS, JG, INVEST, DF, LHO, POST-RP, RES, TRA, TRIP TO MX 9/26/63, EMP, REL, PROPOSED RUSS TRIP, FPCC, ASSOC, CONSPR THEORIES, CUBA, JR, ASSOC, CASTRO MATTER CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : 2; 4 CURRENT STATUS : RELEASED WITH DELETIONS DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 07/13/1994 OPENING CRITERIA : INDEFINITE COMMENTS : INC 8 FBI RESPONSES, 4 LHM, 6 MEMO, NEWS ARTIC, 2 TTY, 3 ADMIN PAGES, REC, CIT LTR, USSS LTR, DOJ LTR, CC LTR Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 11 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10009-10325 RECORDS SERIES : HQ AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-109060-935 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, PH TO : DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 11/24/1963 PAGES : 1 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : KENNEDY, JOHN, SEARCHING FOR SUSPECTS, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 12 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10009-10326 RECORDS SERIES : HQ AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-109060-934 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, PH TO : DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 11/23/1963 PAGES : 1 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : KENNEDY, JOHN, SEARCHING FOR SUSPECTS, VAGANOV, IGOR CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 13 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10047-10374 RECORDS SERIES : HQ AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-109060-4421 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, PH TO : DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 01/27/1967 PAGES : 2 DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT SUBJECTS : JFK, SUSPECT, VAGANOV, IGOR VLADIMIRS CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/26/1992 Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 14 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : HSCA RECORD NUMBER : 180-10019-10161 RECORDS SERIES : FBI INVESTIGATIVE FILE ON ASSASSINATION OF JOHN KENNEDY AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-109060-4421 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, PHILADELPHIA TO : DIRECTOR TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 01/27/1967 PAGES : 1 DOCUMENT TYPE : MEMORANDUM SUBJECTS : IGOR VLADIMIRS VAGANOV,; D.O. MC ELWEE, ASSISTANT DISTRICT SUPERVISOR; JOHN BERNEDT, ASSOCIATE EDITOR4 OF EQUIRE MAGAZINE CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 05/19/1993 COMMENTS : Box 20. Folder Title; Section 109 [4412-4428]. Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hit 15 of 15 AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : HSCA RECORD NUMBER : 180-10020-10163 RECORDS SERIES : FBI INVESTIGATIVE FILE ON ASSASSINATION OF JOHN KENNEDY AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 62-109060-4732 DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : FBI FROM : SAC, PHILADELPHIA TO : DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE : [No Title] DATE : 03/09/1967 PAGES : 1 DOCUMENT TYPE : MEMORANDUM SUBJECTS : JFK; VAGANOV, IGOR VLADIMIRS; BERNEDT, JOHN; TIPPETT CLASSIFICATION : UNCLASSIFIED RESTRICTIONS : OPEN IN FULL CURRENT STATUS : OPEN DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 05/24/1993 COMMENTS : Box 21. Folder Title; Section 116. Audit history for this Record Identification Form Hits 1-15 of 15 National Archives and Records Administration webmaster@nara.gov Hope this helpful.

Back brace or no back brace, it would have been physically impossible for JFK - or anyone else for that matter - to have remained seated in an almost upright position after having been shot in the back and throat. Nevertheless that's what the Zapruder footage leads viewers to believe. For example, take a look at the following frame: Obviously JFK's head is depicted as having been well above the level of the rear seat , and would have been clearly exposed to anyone firing from the TSBD. That's precisely the reason why this frame and its predecessors were deliberately 'doctored', namely to hide the fact that at the time of the fatal head shot it would have been impossible for the shot to have been fired from the TSBD, since JFK's head was resting in Jackie's arms, and below the level of the back of the rear seat. Study the picture very carefully, and see if you can visually reconfigure the elements to suggest an entirely very different scenario. To assist interpretation, I have added two blue dots to indicate where one should locate the position of JFK's eye's. Now look at the picture : Pay particular attention to the area below : What you should see is indicated by the outlining in the following picture: If you wish to read a more detailed explanation, click on: My Webpage

Here's the Zapruder frame: Zooming in: ... and the negative rendition:

Here is a picture of Clint Hill standing in the limousine : Zooming in on the image of Clint Hill what you see is this: What I see is this:

The image is that of a lady's powder compact, which Jackie is holding out in front of her so that she can see JFK in the mirror. JFK is between her and Hill. All l three are on the floor of the limousine, and facing the camera. All such pictures showing Hill standing upright in the limousine are fraudulent. A 70 m.p.h. wind speed generated in a wind tunnel quite simply blows a person off their feet and sends them spinning away.

This:

Officer Tilson phoned DPD HQ and described what he and his daughter had seen, namely a man who looked like Jack Ruby, who had come running down the embankment towards a black car parked near the underpass. He reported that the man had opened the rear door of the car and had thrown a long shaped object into the back seat. area. If HQ broadcast the report, then Tippit could have been listening to it as he was heading east on 10th. He saw Andrew's car coming towards him which matched the description , so he swung his vehicle around and headed after it. This would explain why he looked in the space between the front and rear seats. Tilson's wrote down the license plate number of the car while he was chasing after it along the highway, but claimed he lost the piece of paper, so that aspect is open to question. One thing for sure, it was not Ruby whom Tilson was chasing, and I would guess that the license plate number would not have been registered to Ruby either. I recall reading that the vehicle actually belonged to a cousin of Filipe Vidal Santiago's and was on loan to him for a period of about three months. It may also have been the same car which appears in the photograph of the outside view of Walker's house. The whole idea was to point the finger at a Ruby look- alike coming down the embankment carrying what appeared to be a rifle. Recall that Julie Ann Mercer at 10:50 a.m. had seen a man she subsequently recognized as being Jack Ruby , who was sitting in a truck while another man carried what looked like a rifle up the embankment . What goes up also has to come down, so to speak, and if Tilson made a mistake in thinking the man was Ruby, then likewise Mercer was entirely mistaken when she identified the man in the truck as having been Ruby. I think she was absolutelyy accurate in what she described , and that it was Ruby at 10:50 a.m . but not at 12:30 P.M..... Tilson's tale implied Mercer had made the same mistake as he had , when she tagged Ruby as the man she had seen sitting in the truck. One bothering aspect: Tilson's vehicle was sitting on the corner of Industrial as the presidential limousine raced past on its way to Parkland. To chase after the black car which was drive up the Elm St. ramp onto the Stemmons freeway, Tilson claimed that he drove up Commerce St turned left onto Houston and then made a left down Elm St. Looking at the Cancellare picture the traffic on Commerce appears to have been stalled and it's difficult to understand that Tilson would have been able to do what he claimed, not alone on account of the heavy traffic on Commerec, but also by the fact that Elm St had people all over the street and running up th eGK at that time. This is just a quick response based largely on memory, so please feel free to amend/correct anything that appears to be out of whack with the known facts.

The missing pictures have now been attached in the previous post